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Wombaticus Rex » Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:41 pm wrote:So Cultural Marxists are all connected by the fact none of them are connected, rally around a philosophy few of them even know they have, and while "they are everywhere, but they are few," there's also "mobs" and "hordes" of them.
This all sounds like very rational, useful stuff. I especially like how the author doesn't explain anything, instead urging us to "research as much as possible."
How do you expect people to "break down this rhetoric" when there's nothing here but rhetoric, Sounder? This seems like a golden example of the Law of Bullshit.
If I wrote an essay about how Neo-Platonists are destroying civilizations around the world without offering any real description of who Neo-Platonists are and insisted that you "debunk" it rather than dismiss it, you might have a moment of self-awareness about wasting time. What is there to engage with in the OP? It is scholarship without content.
jakell » Thu Mar 24, 2016 11:01 am wrote:On here I've seen some fairly strong denouncements of the idea of Cultural Marxism. At the time I mused that it seems ok for the Left to have all shades of conspiracy theories from strong to flimsy, and they are all mostly received with a degree of interest..... however, when the Right does a similar thing it is treated automatically with derision, a fairly unsymmetrical attitude.
When it is addressed at all, the idea of CM is usually critiqued by questioning its historical roots, but to me that doesn't matter, it does seem to describe something in modern times and for that reason alone it is a reasonable label to use.
(just heading off the usual posse)
..... what I would call a sociopolitical theology.....
Wombaticus Rex » Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:41 am wrote:So Cultural Marxists are all connected by the fact none of them are connected, rally around a philosophy few of them even know they have, and while "they are everywhere, but they are few," there's also "mobs" and "hordes" of them.
This all sounds like very rational, useful stuff. I especially like how the author doesn't explain anything, instead urging us to "research as much as possible."
How do you expect people to "break down this rhetoric" when there's nothing here but rhetoric, Sounder? This seems like a golden example of the Law of Bullshit.
If I wrote an essay about how Neo-Platonists are destroying civilizations around the world without offering any real description of who Neo-Platonists are and insisted that you "debunk" it rather than dismiss it, you might have a moment of self-awareness about wasting time. What is there to engage with in the OP? It is scholarship without content.
JackRiddler » Thu Mar 24, 2016 4:10 pm wrote:Wombaticus Rex » Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:41 am wrote:So Cultural Marxists are all connected by the fact none of them are connected, rally around a philosophy few of them even know they have, and while "they are everywhere, but they are few," there's also "mobs" and "hordes" of them.
This all sounds like very rational, useful stuff. I especially like how the author doesn't explain anything, instead urging us to "research as much as possible."
How do you expect people to "break down this rhetoric" when there's nothing here but rhetoric, Sounder? This seems like a golden example of the Law of Bullshit.
If I wrote an essay about how Neo-Platonists are destroying civilizations around the world without offering any real description of who Neo-Platonists are and insisted that you "debunk" it rather than dismiss it, you might have a moment of self-awareness about wasting time. What is there to engage with in the OP? It is scholarship without content.
Yes.
I assume "scholarship" is irony on your part. However, it has a content. Everyone is enemy who does not fit this guy's profile of the normative human being - white, male, individualist, "producer," believer that "traditional" values are also natural - or who is not in agreement that this is normative.
If I wrote an essay about how Neo-Platonists are destroying civilizations around the world without offering any real description of who Neo-Platonists are and insisted that you "debunk" it rather than dismiss it, you might have a moment of self-awareness about wasting time. What is there to engage with in the OP? It is scholarship without content.
Cultural Marxists certainly have no respect for freedom. Their only concern is artificial “equality,” because forced equality makes collectivism possible. This often means grinding down the best the world has to offer to match it with the worst the world has to offer...
Wombaticus Rex » 24 Mar 2016 15:41 wrote:So Cultural Marxists are all connected by the fact none of them are connected, rally around a philosophy few of them even know they have...
Sounder » Thu Mar 24, 2016 4:34 pm wrote:If I wrote an essay about how Neo-Platonists are destroying civilizations around the world without offering any real description of who Neo-Platonists are and insisted that you "debunk" it rather than dismiss it, you might have a moment of self-awareness about wasting time. What is there to engage with in the OP? It is scholarship without content.
I already wrote that essay, but I better add a few new paragraphs.
Alright, good replies Wombat and Jack.
I don't relate to the term Cultural Marxist, cause it's a dog whistle phrase.
Still there is a loud minority of people around that seem dedicated to undermining the value of nation states, and from my POV at any rate, looking to replace nation states with some kind of corporate super-state.
I call them Trans-nationalists or Globalists.
jakell » Thu Mar 24, 2016 5:11 pm wrote:Sounder » Thu Mar 24, 2016 4:34 pm wrote:If I wrote an essay about how Neo-Platonists are destroying civilizations around the world without offering any real description of who Neo-Platonists are and insisted that you "debunk" it rather than dismiss it, you might have a moment of self-awareness about wasting time. What is there to engage with in the OP? It is scholarship without content.
I already wrote that essay, but I better add a few new paragraphs.
Alright, good replies Wombat and Jack.
I don't relate to the term Cultural Marxist, cause it's a dog whistle phrase.
Still there is a loud minority of people around that seem dedicated to undermining the value of nation states, and from my POV at any rate, looking to replace nation states with some kind of corporate super-state.
I call them Trans-nationalists or Globalists.
It seems we are in agreement then and, as I said in post 2, it it is merely the phrase that is problematic and and it actually describes a useful set of ideas.
The article can then be reread (or rewritten) using this knowledge and maybe those allergic folks can breathe again. More intelligent folk can read the article as is and do an internal translation.
jakell » Thu Mar 24, 2016 12:36 pm wrote:I should add, in the light of earlier mentions of white supremacism (still not shown BTW),…
The people defending it here would be up in arms if AD posted something similarly vapid.
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