Orlando / Pulse Mass Shooting Thread

[Nordic]

Repressed homosexuals who aspire to be in the NYPD is not a small demographic in America.

[backtoiam]

Hillary on CNN:

"keeping America safe from lone wolves is our first priority"


This stinks to high heavens and here is one reason it does. A human body contains about 1.8 gallons of blood. I don't know how many people have seen a person with a hole in their body but it ain't pretty. Blood does not simply dribble out. A lot of the time it SPRAYS OUT INTO THE AIR as the heart pumps all the blood out of the body.

50 dead people with holes in their body has a potential of yielding almost 100 gallons of blood spraying all over the place. 53 injured people too, so, add a few more dozen gallons of blood to the scene. Its hard to handle 103 bleeding people, take care of them, carry them, without ending up being smeared with blood. Its not just hard, its impossible in my opinion.

Why carry injured people two or three blocks away from the scene anyway? The shooter is dead. The scene is safe. Leave injured people alone and wait for the ambulance right? Of course that is the smart thing to do.

"oh hell no, lets carry them around town and take em somewhere else"

Bullshit. Look at these people. They supposedly hunkered down in a room full of blood spraying all over the place for three hours. After the shooter died they picked through the dead and wounded attempting to figure out who needed help the most. They did this without being smeared in blood.

These people are not hysterical. They are not grief stricken. They are not screaming and crying and covered with blood. All these gunshot victims being carried out and everybody, including the victims, are not smeared with blood.

This whole situation is just another bunch of bullshit. Now Hillary says these online Jihad people need to be tracked and dealt with. These "radicalized" (awake people) on the internet have to be dealt with.....huhhh...hmmmmm

That bitch looks a little different to me today. Maybe she got a new face lift. She has some sort of little scar or something under her right eye and she looks younger.


https://youtu.be/i0APwTRCaO4


https://youtu.be/ZC8rQLn2sBs

[Wombaticus Rex]

Ah, good, I was really lamenting the lack of informed, professional grief analysis here on RI. Also been a real dearth of experienced law enforcement veterans dissecting the work of officers in the field. Both of those droughts are very much over. Praise God.

Always ahead of the curve.

That bitch looks a little different to me today. Maybe she got a new face lift. She has some sort of little scar or something under her right eye and she looks younger.

You have such a huge arsenal at your disposal to disparage your rulers, please aim a bit higher than the usual locker room shit, yeh cunt.

[norton ash]

^^^^ I always appreciate some barely-literate fuckwad passing judgment on whether grief is authentic too.

[NeonLX]

I've purposely not watched or listened to any corporate "news" sources on this event. Something really stinks about this...once again, all the weird coincidences and connections. More fucking mind fuckery. At least that's my opinion at this point.

It's so grievously tragic, no matter what the background is. But I don't like the "spin" it's taking on.

I just don't know.

[Novem5er]

Backtoiam, my cuz in Orlando has her friend in the hospital with a gunshot wound. Her friend is a gay Latino who was at the club during the shooting. She's known him for years. So he's a crisis actor in a fake hospital?

I'm all for Rigorous analysis, but analyzing some TV footage and declaring this all fake is just so insulting to people who are on the ground and have been directly impacted. The 50 slain and 50 wounded have dozens and dozens of friends and family accounting for them. They may be strangers and actors to you, but not to people who live in Florida.

[backtoiam]

I didn't say nobody got shot. Never said that. I am attempting to understand the lack of authentic video coverage of the bloody carnage. And NO, I don't buy the answer that would go something like this...."it would be disrespectful to the victims to show that bloody carnage." I understand polite restraint but polite restraint is not what I think I see.

[brekin]

I didn't say nobody got shot. Never said that. I am attempting to understand the lack of authentic video coverage of the bloody carnage. And NO, I don't buy the answer that would go something like this...."it would be disrespectful to the victims to show that bloody carnage." I understand polite restraint but polite restraint is not what I think I see.

From what I understand wasn't the whole shooting basically caught on camera because the club has a CCTV security system? I can understand them not uploading it all to Youtube immediately to assuage doubters though.

[82_28]

I'm gonna get shit for this, which is fine. But what is up with hat guy? It seems suspicious. Not casting any aspersions or creating more conspiracy bullshit. But that guy and his hat seems to be everywhere. Maybe it's just that there is limited footage.

[Nordic]

I didn't say nobody got shot. Never said that. I am attempting to understand the lack of authentic video coverage of the bloody carnage. And NO, I don't buy the answer that would go something like this...."it would be disrespectful to the victims to show that bloody carnage." I understand polite restraint but polite restraint is not what I think I see.

Actually yes you did, you said the whole thing was fake because people weren't covered in blood.

We have this thing where we can actually go back and read what you "said".

[Nordic]

Hillary on CNN:

"keeping America safe from lone wolves is our first priority"


This stinks to high heavens and here is one reason it does. A human body contains about 1.8 gallons of blood. I don't know how many people have seen a person with a hole in their body but it ain't pretty. Blood does not simply dribble out. A lot of the time it SPRAYS OUT INTO THE AIR as the heart pumps all the blood out of the body.

50 dead people with holes in their body has a potential of yielding almost 100 gallons of blood spraying all over the place. 53 injured people too, so, add a few more dozen gallons of blood to the scene. Its hard to handle 103 bleeding people, take care of them, carry them, without ending up being smeared with blood. Its not just hard, its impossible in my opinion.

Why carry injured people two or three blocks away from the scene anyway? The shooter is dead. The scene is safe. Leave injured people alone and wait for the ambulance right? Of course that is the smart thing to do.

"oh hell no, lets carry them around town and take em somewhere else"

Bullshit. Look at these people. They supposedly hunkered down in a room full of blood spraying all over the place for three hours. After the shooter died they picked through the dead and wounded attempting to figure out who needed help the most. They did this without being smeared in blood.

These people are not hysterical. They are not grief stricken. They are not screaming and crying and covered with blood. All these gunshot victims being carried out and everybody, including the victims, are not smeared with blood.

This whole situation is just another bunch of bullshit. Now Hillary says these online Jihad people need to be tracked and dealt with. These "radicalized" (awake people) on the internet have to be dealt with.....huhhh...hmmmmm

That bitch looks a little different to me today. Maybe she got a new face lift. She has some sort of little scar or something under her right eye and she looks younger.


https://youtu.be/i0APwTRCaO4


https://youtu.be/ZC8rQLn2sBs

Those videos are shit. You're a disgrace to this place.

[norton ash]

Those videos are shit. You're a disgrace to this place.

I think the couragious juornalist put alot of work in to them video's.

[backtoiam]

I am simply saying this.

I have seen several different estimates on the number of people that were in the room. The last one I saw was roughly maybe 300 people. I also saw an estimate of 100 people. Nobody hiding under a table, crawling around in all that blood, was brave enough to click the "record" button on their cell phone? And in the aftermath as people were evacuating nobody was filming this? I'm not buying it. I saw one video on CNN that was so blurry it looked like a camera made in 1950. Just like the airport footage from the last airport bombing that turned out to be fake. The footage used came from a Russian airport bombing many years ago. We have no way to validate any of this. Where are all the hysterical screaming bloody people trapped in a mass massacre for three hours? I have not seen them yet.

[stillrobertpaulsen]

Kicking this up from page 3 so it doesn't get lost in the mix. I found this extremely compelling and am wondering:

1. Who was this eyewitness? Anyone have a name?

2. Which station was this?

3. Was any attempt made by the station to reconnect with the witness after being "cut off"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8NEv1rvDFM

[semper occultus]

...I don't really want blood spattered snuff footage broadcast for public edification tbh...

...John Pilger and those of his ilk have for many years decried the habitual practice of the Western MSM of censoring the worst scenes of carnage from military engagements and wars around the world and insulating the public from what the real consequences of violence look like....