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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby dada » Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:22 am

msnbc on in the background at work this morning, did my best to ignore it. Sounded just like coverage of the Macy's thanksgiving day parade.

Deciding whether to post this here, or on the RT thread, on the subject of propaganda. Guess I'm posting it here.

Banal, vapid. Robotic droning from everyone, talking heads and politicians alike. I don't understand the left/right divide. Seems so superficial, they all sound the same. Vanilla.

But it's like that every time msnbc is on in the background. Or pbs newshour. It's all the fucking same. The 'news' is the voice of money, And 'politics' is like a phony street on a hollywood backlot,. It's just so shabby. And everyone with half a brain knows it.

It's like how people know consumer culture is a sham, but they still read the magazines, look at the ads, buy the products, even though they know better. It's abuse of the soul. But it isn't consumer culture doing the abusing. It's self-abuse.

But the next election cycle will start even earlier, like christmas advertising in august. And I'll watch the internet play this game again. So stupid. Frightened people, committed to the fantasy narrative. Suckups to power and authority never grow up.

edited to add: Oh, I caught when Donald mentioned that we're going to 'unlock the mysteries of space.' Thought of RI. That made me smile. Then he said, 'we may all be different, but we all bleed red,' or something. But see, aliens have green blood. He left them out.
Both his words and manner of speech seemed at first totally unfamiliar to me, and yet somehow they stirred memories - as an actor might be stirred by the forgotten lines of some role he had played far away and long ago.
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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby Sounder » Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:09 pm

Thanks for that JM Greer article Stefano.

It reads quite well in the context of a thread called 'Congratulations, Stupid.'
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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby OP ED » Sat Jan 21, 2017 2:08 pm

We're gonna build a wall around the sky to keep the aliens away.
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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby Elvis » Sat Jan 21, 2017 2:18 pm

Much of the world would like to build a containment wall around the entire U.S.
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Postby Luther Blissett » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:04 pm

How many walls does it take until a civilization can start harnessing all of the energy of a star?
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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby coffin_dodger » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:15 am

...and at what point does a wall of exclusion become a wall of containment? :fawked:
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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby JackRiddler » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:18 pm

Here is an informal and tentative survey of the Women's March, based on what I saw in Washington and my own attempt to categorize the messages displayed by the protesters:

All ages were in attendance, of course, but the marchers were overwhelmingly young and energetic. I'd estimate that at least 2/3 were women.

The most frequent signage and other forms of display (costumes, paper mache, theater, singing, etc.) related to women's rights and abortion rights, also LGBTQ rights, with hundreds of thousands of pussy hats and signs or t-shirts typically reading "hands off my pussy/uterus," "feminist," and the like. By far. Generally these messages were not tied to parties, persons, or other issues.

Next most frequent in visibility were probably the generic anti-Trump messages (largely making fun of him, usual jokes). Typical of this was one huge sign reading, "We Fucked Up Bigly." At about the same visibility were straight pro-Clinton, Arrow-H, "I'm with Her," "Stronger Together," and the like, but not so that you could never look away and not see it.

At a similar level in visibility compared to the last two categories, at least as I observed it, were displays devoted to a variety of existing radical movements and issues that have come to be associated as the new left. In this I am combining Black Lives Matter, climate and ecology, immigrant rights, income inequality, No DAPL, socialist groups, etc. There was a huge beautiful globe decorated with clouds being rotated by a crowd near the Washington Monument, but we did not got too near to that.

There was little organized union presence that I saw, although unions filled a couple of hundred buses from New York. Big D-orgs like MoveOn and DFA were not generally evident on the ground, although of course they did send out e-mails before the march. This march was organized ad-hoc and stayed that way, and I think that's just as well. So there was a political diversity.

Definitely present but less so than the above categories was the stuff about Russia taking over the United States, some of which really belonged more in an early cold war rally calling for the execution of the Rosenbergs (commissar costumes, hammer and sickle, slogans in Russian, etc.)

There was a smattering of Sanders-related stuff, and I have heard reports that some who had worked for the campaign chose to stay home. Presumably there were many Sanders voters among those displaying the issues-related signage, as described above. (Like our own group, with our big banner supporting protection for immigrants and refugees. People after all did not vote for Sanders because of a cult of personality, but because of the issues to which he spoke.)

Relatively missing was the city's black community. There were of course a lot of people of every color and it was a highly diverse crowd but if a large proportion of the city's majority black community had shown up I expect it would have been obvious. Again, I'm just me, but if it's an indicator I probably saw more white people holding up BLM signs (very good of course) than black people. This is a very long-term problem with U.S. movements and has rarely been overcome.

I have to say it is what it is and if we start the history clock on Jan. 20 with the accession of this beast, this response was as fantastic and promising and energetic and unprecedented and perfectly timed as I could have imagined; if still inchoate and evolving. There were millions of people all around the country and all the other places in the world where there were rallies! The big international response is crucial, for a rally originating in the United States (if outside the scope of my "survey.") And I think there was an awareness that none of the announced assaults of the new government will be stopped without continuing, stubborn organizing and resistance.

(Please note all the disclaimers. This is only what I saw. We went the entire route of the protest with a lot of back and forth and also stopped at various points and thus saw many long segments march past and big crowds gathered in open areas. But I didn't see everyone!)
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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby JackRiddler » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:20 pm

liminalOyster » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:32 am wrote:I’m having a funny feeling this AM reading about the march. It seems, from where I sit, a bit like a vindication of one of the least popular and most maligned sentiments on the Left over the past few decades - that allowing a Trump-like cretin into power (with it’s corollate rejection of that year’s neoliberal dem) may make things “worse” before they get “better,” but also may inspire a level of organization and demonstration by progressives never before seen. Every time a Susan Sarandon type got maligned in the years since 1999, it was for suggesting that exactly what we are seeing would happen. So I’m hopeful. That’s a bit of relief. Enough, even, to make me feel it’s OK to just go ahead and celebrate, also, the death of the TPP.


I get it. The only problem is that you have unified government (which will be even more so if Trump goes) that need not be moved by anything short of a long general strike or economic disaster and upheaval. Or being voted out massively down the line. But they control most of the electoral levers through the money machines on the state levels, the gerrymandering, the EC system, the media bootlicking to office, the huge and effective organizations they've built, and of course and most crucially the control of state election boards and counting systems and the voter suppression mechanisms. Their minority is more than big enough to sustain all that, so fuck the long-term demographics (which they will try to change now - watch out if there's an open natalist program). So they can set the agenda and weather the protests, and pass anything they desire, and they have consensus amongst themselves on a dream program and ways to make it irreversible (like shifting federal lands to the states - let the next government if it comes try to get them back before they're privatized!). Oh yeah, the agenda: they also have 90% control in deciding what the next crisis will be. This too can alter what people think. (See, e.g., that little thing called "9/11." But there are so many other varieties.)

By the way, just checked and according to the Google, the R's actually won the popular vote in the House 2016 election:

R 63,153,387 (50.6%) + D 61,776,218 (49.4%)

= 124,929,405 (100% of 2-party count)

A proportional Congress would have had 220 R's and 215 D's, a spread of 5, as opposed to the 241-194 reality with a spread of 47.

Who knows the impact of the voter suppression, or of the 101 rigged counting-by-county systems? Stein wanted to find out for three states, and the D's did not get behind that. They were too busy yapping Cold War shit about "Russia." Wisconsin did a black box sampling and claimed a difference of some minuscule number (to Trump's favor). PA and MI both got killed before they were done. The Philadelphia recount had already cut the PA margin from 70K to 40K.

The House pop vote margin is 1,377,169 - half of the difference in favor of the D-candidate in the presidential. The game worked both ways to their favor. We do not have a system that represents voters, rather it yields winners by territory in a largely arbitrary game of obscure rules, and then the winners "represent" territory independently of vote. That's why all the state-based nationalisms alongside the big country nationalism. What's your state bird, liminal? (I think the sports/gameshow/action-movie complex also contributes: there's always only one winner, even if by a single point, and that winner is god, and the losers cease to exist until the next season or sequel.)

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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby JackRiddler » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:21 pm

liminalOyster » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:11 am wrote:I have to admit I find it exceedingly challenging to believe Spencer (or Gavin Mcinnes) is not simply doing an Andy Kaufman bit. I know this is wrong but, in addition to the real fear and concern it inspires, it's also just so incredibly fucking ridiculous.


So is Trump. Arguably so was Hitler: a performance piece by a frustrated artist. So are a lot of people outside politics of this kind. What's the difference? They are narcissists, as it's called. They serve their egos and imagos by adopting a character and staging a show to attract an audience. They are wounded in some way that life wounds, and they want to make up for it. They very closely attend to their followers, establishing a feedback-reinforcement loop. It's always about their struggle. They work the stupid, consciously or not, and adapt accordingly. There are the actual stupid, about 30% of any random population, and then, sometimes (but not always) more insidiously, there is the stupid in every audience, every person. (Which is why you can also get echo chambers of Davos Men.) The results often look like parody to the critical observer. They even learn from parody. Parody explores new forms for them to pursue. It does not matter, not immediately, because all that matters is that it works in the now, that it gives pleasure in the present, that there is power in its enactment. If the practitioner did not already believe the bullshit, they have to come to believe it and embody it fully because that works better. There's so much competition! It is a form of lifetime method acting for bad actors (in both senses). It's part of what I keep calling kayfabe, although that's unfair to the wrestlers. We're also in the neo-kayfabe era, when everyone knows on some level it's kayfabe and studies how to do it, can use more than a century of scientific manuals on its practice in every one of a thousand forms. Self-improvement, how to sell, social psychology, propaganda, population management, etc. Manifold! The morphological similarity of the Alt-Right practice to PUA practice probably explains more of the affinity of MRA to Alt-Right than does shared ideology or world-view. You are free, because you write yourself. It's about enacting the power circuit. Play your role. One wins more by becoming one's character. All you have to surrender is a prior self that you did not design. There is no necessary bottom to how much like a drag act it's going to look, how hypocritical or theatrical or parodical or ridiculous to the ones who aren't playing in the piece. A bottom only reveals itself when it reaches its limits. By then there is no stopping the performance. It's why they still play their characters in those few cases when the history turns a certain way and they end up as defendants in capital criminal trials.

Spencer's been pretty open about pursuing an exterminationist program. He has written that "we" should be having a discussion about how to eliminate the black race. Having read some of that rhetoric and seen that video, I still would not have punched him, because I don't punch, but would have felt a strong urge to do so, sure, because I do feel that urge in many cases, like almost anyone else. And I understand those who are celebrating the punching. Obviously he's infinitely worse than the puncher (knowing nothing else about the puncher than that he punched him). There is no common scale here. Then again, maybe the puncher will turn out to have been a confederate. Post-reality, false-flag, stage everything, right? That, by the way, is the story that the Alt-Right would have been reflexively spreading immediately, if a leftist or a "cuck" had been punched (or shot in Seattle) by someone in a mask: that the perp was really a confederate or someone from the same camp.

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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby JackRiddler » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:32 pm

Two great must-read items on strategy and tactics by Richard Seymour and the amazing new-to-me Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor, and a really good event video from Jacobin with Taylor, Scahill and Naomi Klein.


https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/01/trum ... ica-first/

American Carnage

Trump’s inauguration speech exemplified everything seductive and dangerous about the far right’s rhetoric.

by Richard Seymour

The crowd at Donald Trump's inauguration on January 20, 2017 in Washington, DC. The National Guard / Flickr


Trump’s inauguration speech was unlike most that he delivers. Though not short on his usual belligerence, it was heavily scripted, grammatically conventional, and, at times, lyrical.

The speech, which Trump originally implied he wrote himself, was largely composed by two of his advisers, Stephen Miller and the white-supremacist former chair of Breitbart, Stephen Bannon. Bannon said that it was an address unlike any “since Andrew Jackson came to the White House,” containing “a deep, deep root of patriotism.”

Bannon’s self-aggrandizing plaudits aside, the speech tells us a lot about Trump, and a lot about the poetics of the “alt-right.”

When Trump speaks, people listen — even if only, at first, to laugh.

With some glee, the Washington Post reported last year that Trump’s speeches betrayed a “sixth-grade level” of grammar. During the presidential debates, Twitter users reacted with the hashtag #GrammarMatters. Ironically, Trump has also been ridiculed for what looked to some like clumsy neologisms such as “bigly,” which is a dictionary term, and “braggadocious,” which is an authentic polysyllabic word that Trump may have picked up from his friend, WWE promoter Vince McMahon.

The critics are missing the point, bigly — or, “big league” as it may be. It is of course a staple of right-wing populism, in the tradition of George Wallace, for the candidate to feign a linguistic handicap as a way of connecting with less educated voters. But Trump, though he uses language in a very simple way, is not communicating at a sixth-grade level.

He is someone who is prepared, as Evan Puschak pointed out in a justly celebrated video, to sacrifice the rules of logical sentence construction in order to achieve a goal extraneous to sense-making. He decides, as many a good poet or orator does, in what order the words flow, freely dispensing with the rules of grammar in order to lay the emphasis where he wants it. The music of his sales pitch is punctuated by phrases and refrains that become so familiar that the rest of his speech fades into the background: sad, tremendous, loser, beautiful. That is why he is such a delight to parody, and so easy to mock.

But the pedantry of a certain kind of liberalism — DESTROYING Trump for various errors or slips, correcting “fake news,” “fact-checking” often deliberately metaphorical statements, and so on — involves a denial of something intrinsic to language: the fact that it exceeds signification. Because language is material, it always goes beyond sense-making, beyond meaning.

Rhetoric makes use of the materiality of words, their sensuous properties, in the art of persuasion. Trump’s habit of uttering short sentences, ended with monosyllabic words, is a case in point. They come, Puschak notes, “in a rhythmic series like a volley of jabs.”

At the inauguration, however, Trump had to achieve something else. He had to speak in a “stately” and almost ancient manner, with all the usual deference to protocol, while still casting himself as, in the words of the IMF, “Voldemort” to the old regime.

In some ways, Trump’s inauguration speech was duller than one might have expected (just like the festivities, which had a garish, tawdry aura). It was rained upon, poorly attended, and grim. There were none of his usual interludes of comedy or real menace. But it preserved the essentials of his rhetoric, translated to the inauguration format.

The trick that Bannon and Miller had to pull off was to incorporate the familiar Trumpian register into a more self-consciously “presidential” style. The phrases that his followers love — “beautiful,” “sad,” “America will start winning again,” “make America great again” — were all there, woven with the standard American lexis of “dreams,” “vision,” “destiny,” purple mountain majesty, shining sea, and the Creator, into a narrative of national decline and elite betrayal.

Absent from Trump’s speech was any reference to Wall Street. Although on the campaign he raged against the financial class, with thinly veiled antisemitism, since the election Trump has brought on several Wall Street appointees. So instead he focused on “Washington” whom he said had “flourished” while “the jobs left, and the factories closed,” and the “establishment,” which “protected itself, but not the citizens of our country.”

In November, Bannon complained in an interview with the Hollywood Reporter that “the globalists gutted the American working class and created a middle class in Asia.” Trump’s speech did not invoke “globalists,” but it did blame the establishment for having enriched foreign industry at the expense of American industry . . . and spent trillions of dollars overseas while America’s infrastructure has fallen into disrepair and decay . . . The wealth of our middle class has been ripped from their homes and then redistributed across the entire world.

“America First” was the linchpin of Trump’s address, an echo of the pro-fascist “isolationist” tendency of 1930s America. “From this moment on,” Trump proclaimed, “it’s going to be America First.” In its original incarnation, the America First sentiment said, in effect: “Let’s not waste our blood and treasure helping Jews overthrow the Third Reich, let’s put white Americans first.” With its new inflection, it says: “Let’s stop these alien elites from sending our money to foreigners, let’s rebuild America’s fabled omnipotence.” It answers the widespread and polyvalent sensation of loss by saying that national potency has been lost, and must be restored.

Another key term in Trump’s speech, uttered seven times, was “protection.” The establishment has “protected” only itself, leaving “rusted-out factories scattered like tombstones across the landscape.” The solution: “We must protect our borders from the ravages of other countries making our products, stealing our companies, and destroying our jobs. Protection will lead to great prosperity and strength.”

Later, Trump added: “We are protected, and we will always be protected. We will be protected by the great men and women of our military and law enforcement and, most importantly, we are protected by God.” With this, Trump promoted a version of what is sometimes called “paternal projection,” casting himself as a protective father figure to the nation. America first, and safety first.

“This American carnage,” Trump said, in a particularly evocative phrase, “stops right here and stops right now.” That he followed this with the promise to “eradicate” “radical Islamic terrorism” “completely from the face of the earth” highlights another dimension to the speech’s Jacksonian ideology. Although Trump has previously criticized the Bush administration’s invasion of Iraq, here he deployed clash-of-civilizations rhetoric, and alluded to the Tea Party trope that Obama was an appeaser (if not a secret Muslim).

What we are living through is one of the barbaric fruits of a vile era, in which a colonial metaphysics (not just East versus West, but barbarism versus civilization) is openly and proudly resuscitated by American ideologues. Trump is reproducing the classic, colonial idea of externalizing the nation-state’s internal dysfunctions. What he proposes is to export American carnage.

Nationalist language always obscures its own class valences, directly or indirectly mentioning diverse class experiences in order to tie the people-nation to a political project. Trump’s resonant phrases about “struggling families” and “the people” conjured up a multitude of daily lives and antagonisms, from anger about job losses to complaints about uppity women and immigrants; “carnage” fused the costs of deindustrialization with racialized panic about crime, migration, and rising Asian powers; “protection” invested Trump with an aura of power — the world must be terrifying if people need protection, and Trump must be bigly strong indeed if he can deliver that protection.

But to what class objectives is this poetics harnessed? From the point of view of most of Wall Street and its allies, Trump is a disaster. He’s cancelled the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), a neoliberal trading and property rights agreement with twelve Pacific Rim economies that was the foundation of Obama’s “pivot to Asia.”

Nixing the TPP (worth hundreds of billions of dollars to US capital) and disrupting NAFTA (worth over a trillion dollars in trade) to “renegotiate” it is an extraordinary step for any US president to take. Proposing instead a series of bilateral treaties, including with post-Brexit Britain, while quietly supporting the breakup of the European Union, is a serious attack on corporate profitability. Not only that, but it frees up China to expand and forge new alliances across southeast Asia.

Trump’s retreat to what Doug Henwood calls “semi-autarky” is conducted in the name of the American (white) working class. One might suppose, since Trump talks of a trillion-dollar stimulus program, that the costs of low growth and reduced profitability will not be transferred to the working class in the usual pattern — that they will indeed be “protected.” But the nature of Trump’s stimulus plan is glaringly apparent: he plans to cut $10 trillion in spending over the next decade, presumably passing the savings on to corporations and wealthy taxpayers.

If Trump follows through, it will be austerity of the most savage kind. It will recompense corporations for lost overseas profits, at the cost of the social wage and social reproduction. In addition, the proposal by one of his appointees, Peter Navarro, to impose a 40 percent tariff on Chinese imports will drive up the cost of goods, sharply reducing the consumption of American workers.

There is a danger here in that the AFL-CIO, though it aligns with the Democratic Party leadership and has attacked Trump as a false friend of workers, has a history of flirting with right-wing protectionism. Its response to the Navarro appointment was mixed, and AFL-CIO president Richard Trumka has promised to work with Trump on trade issues. This despite the fact that the trade deals Trump actually negotiates will be even more anti-worker and anti-union than the current ones.

Trump’s is not so much a “project for the new American century” as a project for a retrenchmentist, protectionist, short-termist American capitalism: bad capitalism, savage capitalism, chaos capitalism. American carnage. What is striking about his project, then, is how central rhetoric is to its objectives. It’s often been said of Trump that one should pay attention not to what he says, but to what he does. But this is a misunderstanding. What he says is instrumental to what he does.

Trump has none of the structural advantages of the major social classes behind him, be it the collective organization of workers or the control over markets exerted by capital. He has behind him only the civic activism of the radicalized new middle class, the lobbying of some cowboy capitalists, the influential support of some powerful capitalist outliers (like Rupert Murdoch, and various declining old economy or statist sectors), and the passive support of some strata of downwardly mobile white workers.

Corporate America has not been behind him, and many state elites must be skeptical at best. He has already locked himself in a battle with the capitalist media, with no alternative infrastructure to shield him from any attacks. Insofar as there is a reinvigorated labor movement in the United States, all of its energies are pushing against those of Trumpism. To assemble the base he has, and guide it to electoral victory, Trump had to work rhetorical wonders, performing a sales job that will not soon be eclipsed.

Of course, Trump cannot govern with discourse alone, so his tenure will be marked by crisis. But his success tells us something.

It is a testament not just to Trump’s narrow-if-effective repertoire of bombast and grandiosity, but to the potential glamour, for millions of people on the downswing of their lives, of far-right discourse and its promise of power and restoration. That is the truly dangerous side of Trump’s rhetoric. And it’s what is missed in the gotchas and demolition jobs on his incoherence and poor grammar.







https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/01/wome ... uguration/

How to Build a Mass Movement

Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor

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The United States has just experienced a corporate hijacking. If Trump’s inaugural speech did not alert you to the fact that they intend to come after all of us, then you are not paying attention.

The scale of the attack is as deep as it is wide, and this means that we will need a mass movement to confront it. To organize such a movement necessarily means that it will involve the previously uninitiated — those who are new to activism and organizing. We have to welcome those people and stop the arrogant and moralistic chastising of anyone who is not as “woke.”

The women’s marches in Washington, DC and around the country were stunning, inspiring, and the first of a million steps that will be needed to build the resistance to Trump.

But look around social media, and you can read critiques and even denunciations of the marchers: Where were all of these people before? Why are they only getting involved now? Why doesn’t the march have more radical demands? Why did march organizers, who are politically liberal, allow only . . . liberals to speak?

All this is a sign of a political immaturity that continues to stunt the growth of the American left.

Were liberals on the march? Yes! And thank god. The movement to resist Trump will have to be a mass movement, and mass movements aren’t homogeneous — they are, pretty much by definition, politically heterogeneous. And there is not a single radical or revolutionary on earth who did not begin their political journey holding liberal ideas.

Liberals become radicals through their own frustrating experiences with the system, but also through becoming engaged with people who became radical before them. So when radicals who have already come to some important conclusions about the shortcomings of existing system mock, deride, or dismiss those who have not achieved the same level of consciousness, they are helping no one.

This isn’t leadership, it’s infantile. It’s also a recipe for how to keep a movement tiny and irrelevant. If you want a movement of the politically pure and already committed, then you and your select friends should go right ahead and be the resistance to Trump.
Questioning Everything

Should the marches have been more multiracial and working class? Yes! But you are not a serious organizer if that’s where your answer to the question ends. The issue for the Left is how we get from where we are today to where we want to be in terms of making our marches blacker, browner, and more working class. Simply complaining about it changes nothing.

There will no effective movement against Trump that doesn’t directly confront the issue of racism. It has to be front and center, and it seemed to me that the march organizers took that question seriously and made genuine efforts to shift shortcomings in their original approach.

The organized turnout of unions for the Washington demonstration was much smaller than it should have been. But at least some sections of the labor movement did feel the pressure from its own membership to devote greater resources to mobilization in the final weeks, and plenty of union members got themselves to the march as individuals and with rank-and-file members. That’s something for the Left to build on in making labor central to the anti-Trump resistance.

The women’s marches were the beginning, not the end. What happens next will be decided by what we do. Movements do not come to us from heaven, fully formed and organized. They are built by actual people, with all their political questions, weaknesses, and strengths.

If the Left doesn’t engage with the aim of contending for leadership and influence, we just concede these forces to the Democrats and liberals, who will certainly try to confine the new upsurge of opposition to the political limits they want to define.

The point isn’t to bury our arguments, but to learn how to make them while operating in political arenas that aren’t just our own if we want to win people to more radical politics. Revolutionary socialists have a long and rich tradition of building united fronts, which seems more real now that three million people were in the streets.

We must do a better job at facilitating debate, discussion, and argument so that we talk about how to build the kind of movement we want. But endless social media critiques with no commitment to diving into that struggle for the kind of movement we want is not a serious approach.

There are literally millions of people in this country who are now questioning everything. We need to open up our organizations, planning meetings, marches, and much more to them. We need to read together, learn together, be in the streets together, and stand up to this assault together.

Originally published at Socialist Worker.





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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby brekin » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:01 pm

JackRiddler » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:21 pm wrote:
liminalOyster » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:11 am wrote:I have to admit I find it exceedingly challenging to believe Spencer (or Gavin Mcinnes) is not simply doing an Andy Kaufman bit. I know this is wrong but, in addition to the real fear and concern it inspires, it's also just so incredibly fucking ridiculous.


So is Trump. Arguably so was Hitler: a performance piece by a frustrated artist. So are a lot of people outside politics of this kind. What's the difference? They are narcissists, as it's called. They serve their egos and imagos by adopting a character and staging a show to attract an audience. They are wounded in some way that life wounds, and they want to make up for it. They very closely attend to their followers, establishing a feedback-reinforcement loop. It's always about their struggle. They work the stupid, consciously or not, and adapt accordingly. There are the actual stupid, about 30% of any random population, and then, sometimes (but not always) more insidiously, there is the stupid in every audience, every person. (Which is why you can also get echo chambers of Davos Men.) The results often look like parody to the critical observer. They even learn from parody. Parody explores new forms for them to pursue. It does not matter, not immediately, because all that matters is that it works in the now, that it gives pleasure in the present, that there is power in its enactment. If the practitioner did not already believe the bullshit, they have to come to believe it and embody it fully because that works better. There's so much competition! It is a form of lifetime method acting for bad actors (in both senses). It's part of what I keep calling kayfabe, although that's unfair to the wrestlers. We're also in the neo-kayfabe era, when everyone knows on some level it's kayfabe and studies how to do it, can use more than a century of scientific manuals on its practice in every one of a thousand forms. Self-improvement, how to sell, social psychology, propaganda, population management, etc. Manifold! The morphological similarity of the Alt-Right practice to PUA practice probably explains more of the affinity of MRA to Alt-Right than does shared ideology or world-view. You are free, because you write yourself. It's about enacting the power circuit. Play your role. One wins more by becoming one's character. All you have to surrender is a prior self that you did not design. There is no necessary bottom to how much like a drag act it's going to look, how hypocritical or theatrical or parodical or ridiculous to the ones who aren't playing in the piece. A bottom only reveals itself when it reaches its limits. By then there is no stopping the performance. It's why they still play their characters in those few cases when the history turns a certain way and they end up as defendants in capital criminal trials.

Spencer's been pretty open about pursuing an exterminationist program. He has written that "we" should be having a discussion about how to eliminate the black race. Having read some of that rhetoric and seen that video, I still would not have punched him, because I don't punch, but would have felt a strong urge to do so, sure, because I do feel that urge in many cases, like almost anyone else. And I understand those who are celebrating the punching. Obviously he's infinitely worse than the puncher (knowing nothing else about the puncher than that he punched him). There is no common scale here. Then again, maybe the puncher will turn out to have been a confederate. Post-reality, false-flag, stage everything, right? That, by the way, is the story that the Alt-Right would have been reflexively spreading immediately, if a leftist or a "cuck" had been punched (or shot in Seattle) by someone in a mask: that the perp was really a confederate or someone from the same camp.
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Yes, the "performer" thinks he's in control of the performance, is doing it for his agenda, etc. So, he's probably not "sincere" completely, but he can be authentic, in the sense where he ends up performing something above and beyond his intentions. Same with the spectator, he thinks he knows what the score is, what the charade is, etc. but he's also entering into something where he can't be completely critical, distant, objective even if he "knows its all b.s.". We all enter into the old ritual that plays us more than we reenact it. Many people get pulled into a situation and just claim they are reacting, defending, fighting against a stronger opponent, which has been Trump's m.o. from day one.

Trump has been in control of the airwaves for the last year because people can't tell whether he is in control, out-of-control, or feigning being out-of-control. But the thing is how do we know when he's really out of control and just faking it? How does he even know? Because think about it. If he fools millions of people excepting a few key advisors and power brokers what is more important is that millions are energetically worked up by his display, positive or negative. Intent then really doesn't matter. And just as we were desensitized for his insurgence, we will be even more desensitized during his reign. Whether he was just fooling, we were playing along, doesn't really matter. We have as much, or more, to fear from the masses deep states as the Deep State.

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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby JackRiddler » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:46 pm

PufPuf93 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:59 pm wrote:
JackRiddler » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:16 pm wrote:
brekin » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:22 pm wrote:This is where it started.


We agree. For a year I've been showing the Wrestlemania 23 video to lots of academic types who of course never watched a minute of wrestling and trying to get them to understand its significance. Many do get it right away, because of the enactment of total power and cruelty and fake-torture in the hair-shaving scene. It was the moment he perfected his "art" so to speak.

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I agree with you in general of a highly effective strategy. Seems blatant.

But do you think that Trump has allies in the shadows who benefit rather than simply a highly effective lone wolf demagogue type politician?

The USA has become the Jerry Springer Show of electoral politics.


I don't know.

My guess is until the last decade or two his allies in the shadows and otherwise were in the NY-NJ development/construction/casino mobster and politician scene. People like Little Chris from Jersey, for example. Oh, the McMahons of course. So we're talking a small scale scene compared to the nation and empire that the "Trump Organization" is now attempting to swallow and puke out into a chop-shop. (Am I overdoing the metaphors?)

Since then he's more global, run so many more diverse scams, and must have picked up some mofos in the media industry. Of course he's been around the world many times, has lots of interests here and there. Who the fuck knows? I mean, we should be reading the two books, by that tax reporter Johnston and the other one, shit, I forgot.

However, my expectation is that the most important allies in the shadows as of now are the pirate capitalists and military extremists he picked up during the campaign, those who decided to bet on this relative long-shot play so that they could be in on the ground floor if it worked: Thiel, Paulson, Mercer, and just look at his cabinet for the billionaires and bankers, De Vos and thus Prince, and very obviously: Exxon-Mobil and Goldman Sachs running the most important ministries. Those two guys may be a large part of the show. And my expectation is he'll be more loyal to the early adopters than to the billionaire claquery who came in late, like the ones at his capitalists' cabinet meeting the other day. (Musk, et al. Musk. Sad.)

When Naomi says "corporate takeover," I have to demand a modification. Naturally the corps were always in charge. This is a specific factional takeover by highly piratical elements, scammers basically, and they're doing it in alliance with fucking Nazis.

Shit, when I say that... but let's not Godwin this just yet.

But who the fuck knows? Did you see the Real News Network documentary on Mercer?

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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby JackRiddler » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:48 pm

Then again we could start by reading this spectacular mini-biography sent out this week to Harper's subscribers, most of which we all know by now but it's so well put together and overwhelming, at least as regards the man-horror himself.


http://harpers.org/blog/2017/01/tower-of-babble/

Tower of Babble
By Joe Kloc

Donald J. Trump, a reality-television star erecting a mausoleum for himself behind the first-hole tee of a golf course he owns in New Jersey, first declared his candidacy for president of the United States in the atrium of Trump Tower, which he built in the 1980s with labor provided by hundreds of undocumented Polish workers and concrete purchased at an inflated price from the Gambino and Genovese crime families. "The American dream is dead," Trump said to the audience members, each of whom he paid $50 to attend. During Trump's primary campaign, he told his supporters that he knew "all about crazies," loved "Wall Street guys" who are "brutal," planned to "use the word 'anchor baby,' " and preferred to pronounce "Qatar" incorrectly. Trump, who in 1999 cut his sick infant grandnephew off the Trump Organization's health-care plan and in 2011 compared being gay to switching to a long-handled golf putter, pledged to repeal the Affordable Care Act and said he'd consider trying to overturn the legalization of same-sex marriage. Trump said that his book The Art of the Deal was second in quality only to the Bible and that he never explicitly asked God for forgiveness. At a church in Iowa, he placed a few dollar bills into a bowl filled with sacramental bread, which he has referred to as "my little cracker." Trump, who once dumped a glass of wine on a journalist who wrote a story he didn't like, told his supporters that journalists were "liars," the "lowest form of humanity," and "enemies," but that he did not approve of killing them. "I'm a very sane person," said Trump, who once hosted a radio show in which he discussed the development of hair-cloning technology, the creation of a vaccine for obesity, the number of men a gay man thinks about having sex with on his morning commute, and the dangers of giving free Viagra to rapists. Trump denied being the voice of John Miller, one of several fictional assistants he had previously admitted pretending to be, in a recording of himself telling a reporter that he had "zero interest" in dating Madonna; that he had three other girlfriends in addition to Marla Maples, with whom he had been cheating on his wife; and that he had an affair with Carla Bruni, who later responded by describing Trump as "obviously a lunatic." Trump, who once offered the city of New York vacant apartments in his building to house homeless people in hopes they would drive away rent-controlled tenants, sent a bumper sticker to a group of homeless veterans whom he had previously declined to help and asked them to campaign for him. Trump, whose companies have been cited 24 times since 2005 for failing to pay workers overtime or minimum wage, said the federal minimum wage should go up, and then said it should not. Trump referred to 9/11 as "7-Eleven," and called Massachusetts senator Elizabeth Warren "the Indian" and "Pocahontas." Trump, who had previously labeled a deaf contestant on his reality-TV show The Apprentice "retarded," and had described poor Americans as "morons," said the country was on course for a "very massive recession," one resembling the U.S. recession of 2007 to 2009, which Trump once said Americans could "opt out of" by joining Trump Network, a multilevel-marketing company that sold a monthly supply of multivitamins purportedly tailored to customers based on a test of their urine. Trump submitted his financial-disclosure form to the Federal Election Commission, on which he swore under oath that his golf course in Briarcliff Manor, New York, which was being sued by the town for causing flooding, was worth $50 million, despite having sworn in a previous property-tax appeal that it was worth $1.4 million; and swore that his golf course in Palos Verdes, California, which he was suing for five times its annual revenue, was worth more than $50 million, despite previously having filed papers with Los Angeles County stating it was worth $10 million. Trump claimed he made $1.9 million from his modeling agency, which a foreign-born former model accused of "modern-day slavery," alleging that the agency forced her to lie about her age, work without a U.S. visa, and live in a crowded apartment for which she paid the agency as much as $1,600 a month to sleep in a bed beneath a window through which a homeless man once urinated on her. Trump sought to exclude a recording of himself telling the nephew of former president George W. Bush that he grabs women "by the pussy" from a fraud suit filed against Trump University, a series of real-estate seminars taught by salespeople with no real-estate experience, which was housed in a Trump-owned building that the Securities and Exchange Commission said also housed the country's most complained-about unregistered brokerages, and whose curriculum investigators in Texas described as "inapplicable." Trump announced that he would win the Latino vote, and tweeted a photo of himself eating a taco bowl from Trump Grill in Trump Tower with the message "I love Hispanics!" Trump referred to a black man at one of his rallies as "my African American," and pledged his support for black people at a gathering of mostly white people in Wisconsin, whom he often referred to as "the forgotten people." "I am the least racist person," said Trump, who was sued twice by the Justice Department in the 1970s for allegedly refusing to rent apartments to black tenants, whose Trump Plaza Hotel was fined $200,000 by the New Jersey Casino Control Commission in 1992 for removing black dealers from card tables, who allegedly told a former employee that he hated "black guys counting my money," who in 2005 floated the idea of pitting an all-black Apprentice team against an all-white one to reflect "our very vicious world," and who was endorsed by leaders of the Ku Klux Klan, one of whom said, "What he believes, we believe." Trump tweeted statistics credited to a fictional government agency falsely claiming that the majority of white murder victims in the United States are killed by black people. Trump tweeted a photoshopped picture of Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly, who Trump had said "had blood coming out of her wherever," standing next to a Saudi prince, who tweeted back that he had "financially rescued" Trump twice, including once in 1990, when the prince purchased Trump's 281-foot yacht, which was formerly owned by a Saudi arms dealer with whom Trump often partied in Atlantic City, and with whom Trump was implicated in a tax-evasion scheme involving a Fifth Avenue jewelry store. Trump disputed former Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney's claim that Trump magazine is defunct, showing as proof an annual circular for his clubs that was not Trump magazine, which folded in 2009. Trump republished his book Crippled America with the title Great Again. Trump told and retold an apocryphal story about a U.S. general who executed Muslim soldiers with bullets dipped in pig's blood and proposed that Muslims be banned from entering the country. At the first primary debate, Trump praised his companies' bankruptcies, including that of Trump Entertainment Resorts, in which lenders lost more than $1 billion and 1,100 employees lost their jobs, and that of Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts, a publicly traded company that Trump used to purchase two casinos for almost $1 billion, and from which he resigned after the company went bankrupt for the first time, but before it went bankrupt for the second time. "I made a lot of money," said Trump. At the fifth primary debate, Trump defended the idea of retaliating against America's foreign aggressors by killing non-combatant members of their families, saying it would "make people think." At the eleventh primary debate, Trump told the crowd there was "no problem" with the size of his penis. Trump said that he knew more about the Islamic State than "the generals," and that he would "rely on the generals" to defeat the Islamic State. Trump said he would bring back waterboarding and torture because "we have to beat the savages." Trump offered to pay the legal bills of anyone who assaulted protesters at his rallies, denied making the offer, then made the offer again after a 78-year-old white supporter in North Carolina punched a 26-year-old black protester in the eye and said, "Next time we see him we might have to kill him." Trump, who in 1999 called Republicans too "crazy right" and in 2000 ran on a Reform Party platform that included creating a lottery to fund U.S. spy training, said that the 2016 primaries were "rigged," then clinched the Republican nomination for president, receiving more votes than any Republican in history. "I was the one who really broke the glass ceiling," said Trump when his Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton, became the first woman to lead a major party's ticket. Trump hired Steve Bannon, the editor of the white-nationalist website Breitbart, to replace his former campaign manager Paul Manafort, who ran a firm that once lobbied for the military dictator of Zaire, and who himself replaced Corey Lewandowski, who resigned from the campaign not long after he was filmed grabbing a Breitbart reporter by the arm to prevent her from asking Trump any questions. Trump selected as his running mate Indiana governor Mike Pence, who previously backed a bill that would allow hospitals to deny care to critically ill pregnant women, and who once criticized the Disney character Mulan as a "mischievous liberal" created to persuade Americans that women should be allowed to hold combat positions in the military. In his general-election campaign, Trump said he would consider recognizing Crimea as Russian territory, and called on Russia to hack into Clinton's email account. Trump said that he doesn't pay employees who don't "do a good job," after a review of the more than 3,500 lawsuits filed against Trump found that he has been accused of stiffing a painter and a dishwasher in Florida, a glass company in New Jersey, dozens of hourly hospitality workers, and some of the lawyers who represented him. "I'm a fighter," said Trump, who body-slammed the WWE chairman at WrestleMania 23 in 2007, and who attended WrestleMania IV with Robert LiButti, an Atlantic City gambler with alleged mafia ties, who told Trump he'd "fucking pull your balls from your legs" if Trump didn't stop trying to seduce his daughter. Trump, whose first wife, Ivana, accused him in divorce filings of rape, and whose special council later said rape within a marriage was not possible, said "no one respects women more than I do." Trump threatened to sue 12 women who accused him of sexual misconduct, including one who recalled Trump trying "like an octopus" to put his hand up her skirt on an airplane 35 years ago; four former Miss Teen USA contestants, who alleged that Trump entered their dressing room while girls as young as 15 were changing and said, "I've seen it all before"; the winner of Miss Utah USA in 1997, who alleged that Trump forcibly kissed her on the lips and then told her, "Twenty-one is too old"; an adult-film star, who alleged that at a golf tournament in Tahoe in 2006 Trump offered her $10,000 and the private use of his jet to spend the night with him; and a People magazine reporter, who alleged that while she was writing a story on Trump and his current wife, Melania, on the occasion of their first wedding anniversary, Trump pushed her against the wall and forcibly kissed her before telling her, "We're going to have an affair." "What I say is what I say," said Trump, who previously told a pair of 14-year-old girls that he would date them in a couple of years, said of a 10-year-old girl that he would date her in 10 years, told a journalist that he wasn't sure whether his infant daughter Tiffany would have nice breasts, told the cast of The View that if Ivanka weren't his daughter "perhaps I would be dating her," told radio host Howard Stern that it was okay to call Ivanka a "piece of ass" and that he could have "nailed" Princess Diana, and tweeted that a former winner of his Miss Universe pageant, whom Trump once called "Miss Piggy," was disgusting. "Check out sex tape," tweeted Trump, who once appeared in a soft-core pornographic film breaking a bottle of wine over a limousine. Trump did not comment on reports that he used over $200,000 in charitable contributions to the Trump Foundation to settle lawsuits against his businesses, $20,000 in contributions to the Trump Foundation to buy a six-foot-tall painting of himself, and $10,000 in contributions to buy a smaller painting of himself, which he hung on the wall of his restaurant Champions Bar and Grill. "I'm the cleanest guy there is," said Trump, who once granted the rights to explore building Trump-branded towers in Moscow to a mobster convicted of stabbing a man in the face with the stem of margarita glass, who was mentored by the former lead council for Senator Joseph McCarthy and the Gambino and Genovese crime families, who once purchased a nightclub in Atlantic City from a hit man for a Philadelphia crime family, who once worked with a soldier in the Colombo crime family to outfit Trump Golden and Executive Series limousines with a fax machine and a liquor dispenser, and who once purchased helicopter services from a cigarette-boat racer named Joseph Weichselbaum, who was charged with drug trafficking in Ohio before being moved to Trump's sister's courtroom in New Jersey, where the case was handed off to a different judge, who gave Weichselbaum a three-year prison sentence, of which he served 18 months before moving into Trump Tower. Trump told journalists he "made a lot of money" when he leased his house in Westchester to the late Libyan dictator Muammar Qaddafi. "I screwed him," said Trump. Trump, who in 2013 said that he did "have a relationship" with Vladimir Putin, said in 2016, "I don't know Putin." Trump, who wrote in 1997 that concern over asbestos was a mob conspiracy, who in the 1990s spent $1 million in ads to bolster the theory that a Native American tribe in upstate New York had been infiltrated by the mafia and drug traffickers, who once implied that Barack Obama's real name is Barry Soetoro and that he won reelection by making a secret deal with Saudi Arabia, and who in 2012 tweeted that global warming was a "hoax" created by "the Chinese" to weaken U.S. manufacturing, suggested to his supporters that the Islamic State paid the phone bills of Syrian refugees, that his primary opponent Ted Cruz's Cuban father was involved in a conspiracy to kill President John F. Kennedy, and that U.S. Supreme Court justice Antonin Scalia may have been suffocated with a pillow. During the first debate of the general election, Trump said that Rosie O'Donnell had deserved it when he called her "disgusting both inside and out," "basically a disaster," a "slob," and a "loser," someone who "looks bad," "sounds bad," has a "fat, ugly face," and "talks like a truck driver." At the second general-election debate, Trump invited three women who have accused Clinton's husband of sexual misconduct to sit in the front row; claimed that Clinton had once laughed about the rape of a 12-year-old girl, which audio showed not to be true; claimed that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement had endorsed him, which it had not; and afterward suggested that his opponent had been on drugs during the debate. Trump, who said he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and not lose supporters, told his supporters that Clinton could shoot one of them and not be prosecuted. Trump told the audience at a Catholic charity dinner that Clinton "hates Catholics," that she is "the devil," and that Mexico was "getting ready to attack." Trump, who once kept a collection of Adolf Hitler's speeches at his bedside, told his supporters that the election was "rigged" against him, won the election despite losing the popular vote by a margin of almost 3 million, claimed that he had in fact won the popular vote, and then announced that he would be staying on as executive producer of The Celebrity Apprentice on NBC, which a year earlier had fired him because he called Mexicans "rapists." "Our country," said Trump at a victory rally, "is in trouble."
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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby liminalOyster » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:25 am

JackRiddler » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:32 pm wrote:Two great must-read items on strategy and tactics by Richard Seymour and the amazing new-to-me Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor, and a really good event video from Jacobin with Taylor, Scahill and Naomi Klein.


Thanks for this. The Taylor piece is excellent and just what I needed today to see my cynicism for the lazy self-indulgence it probably really is.

Maybe the best part of the past few years, for me, has been watching the rise of a bunch of brilliant intersectional feminists, many of whom are POC. Ironic that it may just end up that Hillary's militarized social justice masquerading as a base retro "women's lib" may still end up sparking the movement we really need.
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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby Heaven Swan » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:13 pm

liminalOyster » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:25 am wrote:
JackRiddler » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:32 pm wrote:Two great must-read items on strategy and tactics by Richard Seymour and the amazing new-to-me Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor, and a really good event video from Jacobin with Taylor, Scahill and Naomi Klein.


Thanks for this. The Taylor piece is excellent and just what I needed today to see my cynicism for the lazy self-indulgence it probably really is.

Maybe the best part of the past few years, for me, has been watching the rise of a bunch of brilliant intersectional feminists, many of whom are POC. Ironic that it may just end up that Hillary's militarized social justice masquerading as a base retro "women's lib" may still end up sparking the movement we really need.



Ever heard of "black lib"? Or how about "Indigenous libbers" protecting the water at Standing Rock?

I've enjoyed your posts LO and assume that you have a sincere desire to be a genuine ally to the Women's Liberation Movement. If that is the case I'd like to ask that we leave the dismissive and insulting term ""women's lib" in the dustbin of history, where it belongs.

I'd also like to respectfully suggest that you learn more about the movement's internal conflicts before making ill-informed snap analyses about imaginary faction fights such as "intersectional feminists" vs "Hillary's militarized social justice (warriors?) masquerading as a base retro "women's lib".
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