What is #Pizzagate?

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What is #Pizzagate?

Right-Wing Hysteria/Hillary-Smear-Campaign
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Psy-Op to Discredit & Distract from Actual High-Level Pedophilia
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An Orchestrated Exposé to Destabilize Power Structures
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A Glimpse into Pedo-Culture in Washington, DC
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Evidence that Comet Ping Pong is a Money-Laundering Front for Child-Porn/Trafficking Business
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Evidence that Comet Ping Pong is both a Front & a Location for Child Abuse, Ritual or Otherwise
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All of the Above
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Other (Specify)
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Re: What is #Pizzagate?

Postby brekin » Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:48 pm

Nordic » Thu Mar 23, 2017 2:43 pm wrote:No mention of the new Dr Phil show all about "Pedogate"?
You guys are off your game.


Everything from here on out is just going to be retreaded, rebooted, recycled, revised, retro remakes.
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Re: What is #Pizzagate?

Postby liminalOyster » Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:59 pm

Donald Trump refers to pizzagate in 2011 CNN interview. 27 seconds in.

Edit: explained: he made a self-conscious reference to flack he received for using knife and fork while eating pizza with Sarah Palin, "pizzagate."

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Re: What is #Pizzagate?

Postby Nordic » Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:17 pm

http://themillenniumreport.com/2017/03/ ... syndicate/

Victim confirms the very worst about Pedogate culture

Woman Claims Parents Sold Her To An International Sex Trafficking Organization – At Birth

Kendall claims the world of sex trafficking is the only life she’s ever known. The young woman claims her parents gave her – at birth – to a person she refers to as “the man who owns me.”



TELL DR. PHIL YOUR STORY: Have a headline-making story in a small town?

Claiming she was forced to have sex from an early age, Kendall says, “One of my first memories was thinking that it was normal for men to be fondling babies.”

She claims as part of an international sex trafficking ring, she traveled the world and was both sexually and physically abused by “extremely rich and prominent members of society,” her entire life – until she escaped.

“Since I left, everything has been so hard, and the only one who can help me is the man who owns me.”

Why does Kendall say she feels like no one will believe her story? Tune in to Tuesday’s Dr. Phil. Find out where you can watch here.

This program contains sexual content. Viewer discretion is advised.



What's strange is that this was all over Reddit/conspiracy earlier and ..... now it's not.

Videos are at the link.
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Re: What is #Pizzagate?

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:20 pm

oh yea she was on Dr. Phil yesterday ...didn't say anything about pizza gate
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Re: What is #Pizzagate?

Postby brekin » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:48 pm

seemslikeadream wrote:oh yea she was on Dr. Phil yesterday ...didn't say anything about pizza gate


Yeah, not surprising. This is just cheap cultural chunking at work.
Even readers who've been on here for years and have read numerous stories and cases (big and small, factual and fantastical) similar to PG, but predating it by years, seem to operate under the assumption that PGate somehow "broke it open" because of a few high level government representatives who traffic in conspiracies mentioned it. Its like they are waiting for the the PGate version of the film Spotlight to come out soon when it was just a pop psyop skeeving for short term political gains.

Chunking in psychology is a process by which individual pieces of information are bound together into a meaningful whole (Neath & Surprenant, 2003). A chunk is defined as a familiar collection of more elementary units that have been inter-associated and stored in memory repeatedly and act as a coherent, integrated group when retrieved (Tulving & Craik, 2000). It is believed that individuals create higher order cognitive representations of the items on the list that are more easily remembered as a group than as individual items themselves. Representations of these groupings are highly subjective, as they depend critically on the individual's perception of the features of the items and the individual's semantic network. The size of the chunks generally ranges anywhere from two to six items, but differs based on language and culture.

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Re: What is #Pizzagate?

Postby norton ash » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:25 pm

I watched that Dr. Phil two days ago. I believe the young woman was a mind-controlled sex slave and that the stories she told were true. No specifics or clues as to where she was, or who was involved, other than cages, dungeons, powerful men, and that the trafficking was often concurrent with major sporting events.
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Re: What is #Pizzagate?

Postby Heaven Swan » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:58 am

brekin » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:20 pm wrote:Image

I'm just going to say it, I think there is a very good possibility that the PG was initiated by the FSB (KGB).
Ok, settle down for a minute. Open your med kids, take a chill pill and now cogitate.

First, it would take some time to sift Podesta's emails and create the kooky decoder ring of "code words" and then fit it to the narrative and locales.
1. I don't see someone doing that unless they got paid to do it.
2. And having the time to do so before the election unless they were in on the initial hack.
3. Third, PG is pretty crude. It has the feel of a very smart outsider dabbling in things that they know but don't really know. I mean there are existing narratives going back decades that could have been grafted and coopted that already have legs, but PG feels like a template to destabilize a countries political structure (the belgian politco abuse ring allegations come to mind as a possible real incident used then as a template for PG) from the outside.
4.The later tying in of previous material feels ad hoc, retrospective and amateurish. Most good conspiracies build on what has come before to link the narrative to a coherent development. This is more like in High School that international exchange kid's brilliant but completely flawed presentation on American Rock & Roll.
5. Of course, not to say such events don't exist, but PG is also fishy because it is pretty partisan. Real examples would not be so partisan, I would imagine, because matrices of real power that intersect and overlap the parties in D.C. couldn't be so one party (because the other party would use it as dynamite to bring them to their knees).
6. If it was US intelligence based, then they would probably just expose, craft or fabricate such a scenario with real or more plausibility. If you are going to create such a conspiracy, why not really create it if you have the power? PG seems like someone with reach but not depth.

The latest indictment of FSB agents involved in the hack of Yahoo just makes me believe that it probably was FSB gathered, hatched and disseminated, at least in the early stages.

DOJ: 2 Russian spies indicted in Yahoo hack
By Pamela Brown, Scott Glover and Mary Kay Mallonee, CNN
Updated 12:30 PM ET, Wed March 15, 2017



Interesting take.

The original Pizzagate set-up with the pizza-related code words and well-produced videos does seem strangely disconnected from the 'on the ground' realitiy of child trafficking, as if someone came up with it while looking down from a mountaintop or another (very well-funded) planet.

I do agree that Russian agents could have had a hand in Pizzagate. Plausible. But Russians are not the only ones looking on from a distance. We have our own home-grown hedge fund billionaires, with "more money than God" who look down from their sprawling estates, mega-yachts--

"So he's got one (a yacht) called the Sea Owl that is 203-feet long, and it is - it's just - I've seen pictures of it in yachting magazines. It's almost unimaginable. It's filled with all kinds of frescoes for his grandchildren of "Alice In Wonderland" and Newton's physics and math.

And it's got a player piano Steinway made out of rosewood and four floors of a twisting tree that's been then carved out of mahogany that goes up and down and a spa pool and lots of little boats that you can take excursions off of it from and its crystal chandeliers that came from Venice. And it's just soaked in money. It's kind of like beyond most people's imagining.

DAVIES: And it has an elevator.

MAYER: It does have - if you get really tired from all the other fun, it has an elevator to take you up to the top floor.

DAVIES: I assume you tried to talk to Bob Mercer and his daughter, right?

Who are disconnected in their own way--

JANE MAYER: He made his fortune as a computer scientist who figured out how to write programs that anticipated swings in the stock markets in all kinds of trading, and he brought that sense of how to game the - sort of the financial markets to a hedge fund called Renaissance Technologies which has absolutely minted money ever since.

DAVIES: We'll get to his political views, but first what kind of person is he? I think he's described in the title as reclusive.

JANE MAYER: He made his fortune as a computer scientist who figured out how to write programs that anticipated swings in the stock markets in all kinds of trading, and he brought that sense of how to game the - sort of the financial markets to a hedge fund called Renaissance Technologies which has absolutely minted money ever since.

DAVIES: We'll get to his political views, but first what kind of person is he? I think he's described in the title as reclusive.

MAYER: He's a very unusual character. He is somebody who speaks very, very rarely. He has told colleagues that he prefers the company of cats to humans, and he has some very peculiar ideas about how the world should work and how it does work. And he tends to read kind of extreme far-right publications from which he gets his information.

DAVIES: Somewhere he told someone that he loves the solitude of a computer lab at night.

MAYER: I've read a couple of speeches he's given and talked to people about him. The one sort of instance in which he expresses sort of complete passion is about computers. He talks about how he just loves hearing the clacking of the disks late at night and working alone. He's a real loner who is a - something of a genius when it comes to math and computers, but almost so painfully awkward with other human beings. He can't look them in the eye when he speaks to them.

DAVIES: Do we know anything about his wealth, how rich he is?

MAYER: Well, it's hard to know exactly, but according to institutional investor, he makes approximately $135 million a year.

full intervew at: http://www.npr.org/2017/03/22/521083950 ... -for-years



Yes, these quotes are from an interview about Robert Mercer and his daughter Rebekah, who took the reigns of the Trump campaign in August and helped propel him to victory. This is the same Mercer family whose financial backing brought Breitbart news to prominence, the same Mercers who had been working closely with Steve Bannon before Bannon took charge of Breitbart (after A. Breitbart, at age 43, dropped dead of a heart attack).

In August the Mercers offered their backing to Trump, with the condition that Trump throw Manafort overboard and replace him with Bannon, saying that Manafort had become a fatal liability due to the swirling allegations of collusion Russia that surrounded him.

The Sea Owl is the same Sea Owl that was recently spotted in a cove in the British Virgin Islands docked near the yacht "Anna" belonging to Russian oligarch Dmitry Rybolovlev--

Yachts of Trump financial backer, Russian oligarch seen close together http://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/news/nat ... rQ0hm9zlN/

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Hmmm. Could there have been some collaboration between the spook-soaked US One Percenter and KGB soaked Russian oligarch milieus?

According to survivors I have spoken with, there has been exchange of MC info and techniques between the US and Russia for as long as any of them can remember.

Could these spooks, 1 percenters and oligarchs have cooked up Pizzagate as the ultimate topping to their successful anti-Hillary smear campaign that was kicked off by Mercers backing of the book then film "Clinton Cash". Yea, the same "Clinton Cash" that was handed in pre-release to the New York Times who then featured it on their front page?

And there's a (potential) extra-special boomerang benefit of Pizzagate that could have sent the US spooks into a rhapsody of glee and self-satisfaction--

One of the top items on the agendas of the spook ideators and implementors of MK Mind Control is to keep a tight lid on their long-standing and extensive MC operation, because the moral outrage that might be sparked in the general public by proof of systematic torture and subsequent MC enslavement of children could be difficult to contain.

Discrediting survivors in advance has proved effective in the past so why not try it again???

Pizzagate's ultimate success, from the ideator's point of view, still remains to be seen, but right now it seems pretty damn successful. It helped push Trump to victory and added a thick layer of 'crazy' in the minds of many to allegations of high-level child abuse.

But only time will tell as the story is still evolving...
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Re: What is #Pizzagate?

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:06 am

Trump & The Russian Mafia

In 2010 the founding chairman of Bayrock, Tevfik Arif, who has reputed Russian organized crime ties was charged in Turkey for smuggling underage girls into the country for prostitution. Another principal in the deal is Russian émigré Tamir Sapir, who also lives in Trump Tower.

As reported by Turkish News,

A New York real estate mogul with ties to Donald Trump is at the center of an international sex scandal – suspected of running a high-priced prostitution ring.

Tevfik Arif, 57, has been detained in Turkey on suspicion of setting up trysts between wealthy businessmen and Eastern European models – some underage – aboard a $60 million yacht once used by the nation’s founder, Mustafa Ataturk

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Dark Data: Trump Backers Bankroll Firm Developing Psychological Profiles of Every U.S. Voter
Robert Mercer, Cambridge Analytica, and how billionaires are profiling voters.
By Amy Goodman / Democracy Now! March 23, 2017


One of the more mysterious parts of the Mercer family’s political orbit is Cambridge Analytica. The data firm claims it has psychological profiles of over 200 million American voters. The firm was hired by the Trump campaign to help it target its message to potential voters. The Mercers have bankrolled the company and placed Steve Bannon on its board. We speak to The New Yorker’s Jane Mayer.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCdfgwdk_aM

TRANSCRIPT

This is a rush transcript. Copy may not be in its final form.

NERMEEN SHAIKH: We continue our conversation with Jane Mayer, staff writer at The New Yorker. Her latest piece is headlined "The Reclusive Hedge-Fund Tycoon Behind the Trump Presidency: How Robert Mercer exploited America’s populist insurgency." The piece looks at how the secretive billionaire reshaped the political landscape.

AMY GOODMAN: One of the companies heavily funded by Robert Mercer is Cambridge Analytica, which claims it has psychological profiles of over 200 million American voters. The firm was hired by the Trump campaign to help it target its message to potential voters. Steve Bannon even served on the company’s board. This is Cambridge Analytica’s CEO, Alexander Nix, speaking earlier this year.

ALEXANDER NIX: We started to look at issue models, predicting which issues, social and political, appeal to which members of the target audience, which voters. We actually assigned different issues to every adult in the entire United States. We could then take these models and put them into a matrix, a little bit like the dental health example, where we can categorize people or segment them according to how they’re likely to behave. Core Trump supporters, top right, may be more susceptible to a donation solicitation. Get out the vote: people who are going to vote Republican, but they need persuading to do so. Persuasion audiences: people who need shifting a little bit from the center towards the right. Once we’ve identified a segment, we can then subsegment them by the issues that are most relevant to them, and then start to target them with specific messages.

AMY GOODMAN: Cambridge Analytica CEO Alexander Nix. So, Cambridge Analytica has—claims to have psychological profiles of over 200 million American voters. Jane Mayer, tell us its significance. Steve Bannon was on its board, funded by the Mercers.

JANE MAYER: Well, again, this is part of—if you look at the history, what happened was, after 2012, when Obama was re-elected, despite the fact that the Mercers had put millions of dollars into trying to defeat him, they were upset, and they wanted to try to get better political tools with more traction. So they put money into Breitbart. They put money into the Government Accountability Institute. And the third prong was Cambridge Analytica.

It was—at that point, they concluded, and so did many others, that the Republican Party’s data analytics for running campaigns were lagging behind those that the Democrats had. The Democrats—Obama had a famously good sort of computer operation and data team. And so, they tried to—they decided, "We’ll run our own." They bought a company. They basically invested heavily in building an—it’s an offshoot of an existing English company called Strategic Communication Laboratories. And the British company had been involved in psychological warfare operations for militaries and international elections and kind of some pretty interesting and sneaky-seeming things, which raised a lot of eyebrows when its offshoot was purchased, basically, created by this one hedge-fund family.

You know, when I looked into this, it seemed that there was less than meets the eye, in many ways, so far. Alexander Nix, who is running Cambridge Analytica, is a great salesman, and he’s got this pitch that makes it sound like something from, you know, the movie The Matrix or something, that they’re going to be conducting psychological warfare with this propaganda machine in this country. The truth is, during the Trump campaign, they never used any of their so-called secret psychometric methods. They simply performed like any other kind of data analytics company. And the stuff they did was no different from what the Democrats do and other campaigns do. You know, maybe at some point they’ll have some superpowers that have yet to be revealed, but they aren’t there yet.

AMY GOODMAN: Jane, before we wrap up, we want to go to the Supreme Court confirmation hearings of Judge Neil Gorsuch, really interesting dialogue between Democratic Senator Sheldon Whitehouse questioning Gorsuch on the $10 million dark money campaign supporting his nomination.

SEN. SHELDON WHITEHOUSE: If a question were to come up regarding recusal on the court, how would we know that the partiality question in a recusal matter had been adequately addressed if we did not know who was spending all of this money to get you confirmed? Hypothetically, it could be one individual. Hypothetically, it could be your friend, Mr. Anschutz. We don’t know, because it’s dark money. Is it any cause of concern to you that your nomination is the focus of a $10 million political spending effort and we don’t know who’s behind it?


JUDGE NEIL GORSUCH: Senator, there’s a lot about the confirmation process today that I regret.

AMY GOODMAN: That’s Judge Neil Gorsuch being questioned by Democratic Senator Sheldon Whitehouse. Jane Mayer, in this last 30 seconds that we have, can you comment on this?

JANE MAYER: Well, yeah. I mean, the thing about dark money is, often the person who it’s benefiting knows; it’s just the public that’s not allowed to know. And there’s tons of money behind the Gorsuch nomination, and he probably knows who he owes the favor to.

AMY GOODMAN: Explain a little further the term "dark money."

JANE MAYER: Well, there are these organizations, 501(c)(4) groups, that are set up, where the donors’ hands are not seen. They can spend money on advertising, and the public doesn’t know who they are. They’re nonprofit groups such as the Judicial Crisis Network. And I’ve looked at that one. And, you know, you, as a reporter, and me, as standing in for the public, cannot trace the money. Yet it’s playing an active role in American politics.

AMY GOODMAN: Well, Jane Mayer, I want to thank you so much for spending the hour with us, staff writer for The New Yorker. We’ll link to your piece, "The Reclusive Hedge-Fund Tycoon Behind the Trump Presidency: How Robert Mercer exploited America’s populist insurgency." Her book is out in paperback, Dark Money: The Hidden History of the Billionaires Behind the Rise of the Radical Right.
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Re: What is #Pizzagate?

Postby 82_28 » Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:11 am

I know everyone gives a fuck from the likes of me, but this is by design. It is clear. You take two to several conflicting things people like and put them into conflict. There is no doubt about it. Conflict check. Win. Pizza and porn.
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Re: What is #Pizzagate?

Postby Luther Blissett » Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:42 am

seemslikeadream » Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:20 pm wrote:oh yea she was on Dr. Phil yesterday ...didn't say anything about pizza gate


She didn't say anything about pizzagate because she is a real survivor, not a 4chan neonazi who is scared of art and believes Marina Abramovic eats people (since that is how this all got started).
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Re: What is #Pizzagate?

Postby liminalOyster » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:16 am

Luther Blissett » Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:42 pm wrote:
seemslikeadream » Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:20 pm wrote:oh yea she was on Dr. Phil yesterday ...didn't say anything about pizza gate

she is a real survivor


What do you make of her decision to go to Dr Phil?
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Re: What is #Pizzagate?

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:28 am

did she go to Dr. Phil or did Dr. Ratings I Have an App for that go to her?
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Re: What is #Pizzagate?

Postby liminalOyster » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:32 am

My understanding from a not-totally-focused viewing of just the very beginning was that she had reached out to him. It's a bit of a double-bind IMHO. All my sensibilities demand that I give her pretty much full benefit of a doubt because, to err on the wrong side would be extremely fucked up, and yet if she did reach out to him, it seems such an odd and dangerous choice on her part that I can't make much sense of it. But maybe other survivors of similar experiences have done similar things. I don't actually know so it's probably not appropriate for me to judge.
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Re: What is #Pizzagate?

Postby Heaven Swan » Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:43 am



Just watched the episode (March 21, 2017). Thanks Dr. Phil. Really good.
No mention of Pizzagate though.
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Re: What is #Pizzagate?

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:51 am

I know ...why was it even mentioned in this thread?

the post should if anywhere be posted here...with the real victims

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