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2016 was a great year.

Postby Nordic » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:49 am

Caitlin Johnstone is da man. I love everything she writes.

And yes, 2016 was a damn good year. The massive corruption of the Democratic Party was exposed. The corruption of the news media was exposed.

And the neocons, THE FUCKING CRIMINALS WHO WERE BEHIND 9/11, have finally had their hands ripped from the reins after 16 GODDAMN YEARS.

Something the vast majority of people, even here, seem to have overlooked.


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03 Jan 2017

Humanity Is Transforming In The Age Of Assange

"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
~ Jiddu Krishnamurti

Hippies are like ferrets— they sound cool in theory, but they’re a pain in the ass to live with. My opinion of hippies has been forever tainted by several months in my early twenties of listening to bizarre spiritual ego battles and house-wide feuds over which specific kinds of organic vegan foods are permitted in the cooking area, while nobody in our share house was actually buying groceries except me. Like all movements, the original kernel of truth in the zeitgeist of the sixties has gotten lost in the shuffle of time, and now it’s essentially just an identity people pin on themselves when they like pot and spiritual escapism.

That said, the aforementioned kernel of truth was very much a real thing. Something very real happened in the organic arising of the hippie movement, and they were very right about some things. That’s what I’d like to talk about here with you today, dear reader. I’d like to take a brief pause from making fun of the Washington Post and talking about what a ridiculous turd waffle Wolf Blitzer is and give myself permission here to kind of zoom out and talk about what all these political fireworks look like from a bigger-picture perspective as I see them.



So here’s the thing, if you’re still with me: those goofy hippies were right. There is indeed a great awakening in the mail. It’s taken a bit longer than they thought it would take, and it sure as hell doesn’t look anything like what they thought it’d look like, but it’s coming, and, unlike the initial spark of truth which appeared in their movement, this one can’t be shut down. No amount of cultural backlash or Nixonian drug wars or Reaganite yuppyism is going to get this cat back in the bag, because its carrying agent is so radically decentralized. The great awakening is not coming by means of psychedelic drugs as so many early hippies foretold, nor by communism, nor by the spread of eastern philosophy and Transcendental Meditation. It’s coming through the internet.



It’s not a coincidence that the most powerful political body on the planet has been ratcheting up media consolidation and expanding laws allowing surveillance and propaganda as the human species gets exponentially better at networking and sharing information. It’s not a coincidence that as information becomes more anarchic and democratized, the people in power have worked to bring virtually all media under the control of five massive corporations, which were seen colluding extensively with the Clinton campaign time and time again in WikiLeaks documents. It’s not a coincidence that a 1948 law forbidding the U.S. government from conducting psy-ops on its citizens was revoked in 2012 or that a “counter-propaganda bill” was signed last month allotting a portion of America’s defense budget to countering alternative media outlets that are critical of the U.S. government at the same time alternative media has begun presenting a very real threat to the official narrative. It’s not a coincidence that the board responsible for keeping government surveillance in check was killed the same year humanity’s newfound ability to share information changed the outcome of a presidential election.

America’s power structures are entirely dependent upon giving Americans the illusion of freedom while tightly controlling the information that they have access to. Before the internet, this was easy. The modern American schooling system was instituted by plutocrat John D. Rockefeller, who is generally considered the wealthiest individual in modern history. Around the turn of the last century, he founded the General Education Board, which was openly dedicated to producing predictable, obedient citizens to turn the gears of America’s booming industry. Critical thinking was completely deemphasized and rote memorization and obedience became paramount. Millions and millions of dollars were poured into teaching impressionable minds the established narrative about their country, and their place within that country. Combine that propaganda mill with the fact that corporatism means corporate media giants will become entrenched in the political establishment, and you’ve got a highly effective means of controlling the national narrative.

"The real difficulty is with the vast wealth and power in the hands of the few and the unscrupulous who represent or control capital. Hundreds of laws of Congress and the state legislatures are in the interest of these men and against the interests of workingmen. These need to be exposed and repealed. All laws on corporations, on taxation, on trusts, wills, descent, and the like, need examination and extensive change. This is a government of the people, by the people, and for the people no longer. It is a government of corporations, by corporations, and for corporations. — How is this?"
~ President Rutherford B. Hayes, 1888

This is no longer the case, and it never will be again. The ability to quickly transmit and access large amounts of data from anywhere in the world means that even though you’ve got all the talking heads on television telling you who the Good Guys and Bad Guys are in Syria, people are going to access information that goes directly against that narrative, and use their critical thinking skills to decide what seems to be happening. The organization founded by a man trapped in an Ecuadorian embassy can share the secret manipulations and lies of the political establishment for the whole world to see, and people will share and discuss what they find there. A 74 year-old democratic socialist can give the political establishment the fight of its life carried by nothing but public enthusiasm despite a thorough blackout by the mainstream media, forcing them to pull out all every dirty trick in the book until they got caught.

The ruling elites are losing control of the narrative, and it will only get worse for them. You can see this in the desperately transparent way they keep trying to manipulate people into focusing on Russia, and their pathetic attempts to paint all alternative media as either “fake news” or Russian propaganda.

I’m using the word “narrative” a lot because that’s what this whole struggle is about. At some point the ruling elites figured out that all they had to do to remain in charge is control the stories people tell each other about what’s happening, and all other forms of control are secondary. Power only exists where it exists because society agrees to pretend that that’s where the power is; power itself is nothing other than a conceptual construct invented by people. Same with money; if people stop agreeing to pretend that the numbers in people’s bank accounts mean anything, the economy will cease to exist, and people will have to figure out a new way to move goods around and get food into their bellies. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: whoever controls the narrative controls the world. And for the first time ever, the people in power are losing control of the narrative.



Anyone who’s ever had a sufficiently profound psychedelic or spiritual experience knows that it works the same way on a personal level as well. Virtually every aspect of the human experience is shaped and confined by the stories we tell about it. Your stories about what you are, what the world is, what other people are etc. completely determine the way life will be experienced on your end. Spiritual enlightenment could rightly be described as nothing more than an energetic disinvestment in mental narrative, a falling away of all belief in all mental stories and allowing life to be just as it is, with thought taking its proper place as the useful tool it was evolved to be rather than as the writer, director and star of the entire show.

In the exact same way, humanity is waking up as a whole. Not by a sudden increase in individual awakenings as the hippies envisioned, but collectively as we unpack belief in the stories we’ve been fed for as long as we can remember.

Most of my readers have probably had the experience of wondering why humanity is so crazy, why society functions so irrationally and so counter to our every fiber of intuition as to how things should be. Anyone who’s ever had to explain what war is and how it works to a small child is familiar with the shock and revulsion this alien concept elicits when it lands on fresh ears.



Why do we do these crazy things? We do them because we’ve been fed crazy stories, for the benefit of a few rich and powerful individuals. This is coming to an end. This is what we’re waking up from.

And this is what that looks like. This hot mess we’re in right now is what that out-of-left-field collective awakening looks like, orange guy and propaganda and McCarthyism and all. All the old stories are being brought into the light for questioning and analysis, and that’s going to look sloppy as hell sometimes, but they are coming into the light, for the very first time ever.

So hello 2017! You have arrived at the most exciting time in the history of the human species. Things are about to get very, very interesting.

Ten Percent

Do you know who invented modern schooling? John D. Rockefeller. No shit.

The richest man in the world at the time, he invented a way to make his own slaves.

I heard there’s a saying in the military that a commanding officer spends 90% of their energy trying to discipline 10% of their troops.

I guess the idea is that most military personnel are relatively obedient and malleable, but ten percent of them are troublemakers, and those ones take up most of the energy.

I heard there’s a saying among schoolteachers about that, too. 90% of your energy trying to control 10% of your students.

It’s probably true of a lot of other professions.

Come to think of it, it’s probably true of everything.

Come to think of it, that might explain a lot about the way the world is today.

Come to think of it, maybe that’s why they stopped publicly executing people for insulting the king or disobeying royal decrees.

They figured out that they were spending ninety percent of their energy fighting that ten percent who wouldn’t fall in line, when all they really had to do was marginalize them.

The troublemakers, the rabble-rousers, the true artists, the furious dreamers, the critical thinkers, the clear-eyed mystics, the earth-talkers, the indigenous born outside the machine, the movers and shakers born to stop our species from resting on its laurels and becoming complacent in its evolutionarily unprecedented success as an organism.

All you have to do to reclaim that ninety percent of your energy is create a society where those dreamers can’t thrive.

I mean think about it. Kill one dreamer, then their friends and family get mad and you gotta kill them too, then their friends get mad and you gotta kill them, then before you know it you’ve got an insurrection on your hands.

Ninety percent of their energy.

Why go to all that trouble when you can just create a society where those people can’t thrive?

So they build schools to get in young, sort out the good little cogs who’ll fall in line from the other-beat dancers who won’t keep time.

Praise and reward the ones who color inside the lines, and everyone else gets told they’re not right.

Spend twelve years telling a kid he’s not amounting to much, and guess what? He won’t.

He won’t try. He won’t push back and fight the society that’s shaped all wrong and moves all wrong, even though every minute of his life might feel like a lie.

Won’t plant his feet and stand with the other ten percent and say “No! We refuse! We can’t do it this way!”

Then they’re grown up, and you throw them out into the world after a childhood full of confusion and dissonance, straight into a workforce where guess what? They gotta color inside the lines.

That way you don’t gotta kill them, see. They’ll kill themselves.

They’ll kill themselves. Maybe slowly, but they’ll do it, and they’ll stay out of the way while they do it.

They’ll do everything they can to escape this world that makes no sense and keeps punishing them and condemning them for being how they are.

A lot of them will do drugs to kill the pain. Make that illegal and you can take them out of the equation real fast.

They’ll throw themselves into the margins, anywhere that’s outside the critical gaze of the ruling class.

Drink, drugs, obsession, spiritual escapism, fantasy, sex, abusive relationships, television, video games, anywhere but any place they could take on a central role.

If they don’t die fast, they die slow, and they do it out of the way.

Well I don’t know about you, but that sounds like a raw deal to me.

Dreamers, we’ve been hurt. We’ve been pressed down and squeezed out all our lives, we’ve been beaten and we’ve been wronged.

But it’s time to stop dying and start living.

Not by coloring inside the lines, no! By doing just the opposite, and doing it loudly and unapologetically, right out in the open, in the brightest spotlight we can find.

Ten percent. That’s still a whole lot of us.

It’s hard to shift the momentum of something on your own, but our species is now able to network in a way it’s never been able to before. We can find each other now.

Find your real tribe. One that supports your weirdness and sees your beauty. One that builds you up when you do what you do instead of tearing you down for it.

It doesn’t take many, just enough so you can feel supported and loved when you’re at your weirdest and your most out-there.

And then push out, as loud and as bright and as shameless as possible.

Stop wasting your energy fighting against the kings on their terms, and start doing what you love, what you were born to do, whatever that is. We’ve all got something.

That’s really all it’ll take to turn this world around. To stop our species from resting on its laurels and rip us out of the inertia that’s gotten us into this mess.

Because that ninety percent of their energy? They’re doing other stuff with it now. They’re way too committed to way too many projects to go back to hunting us down.

The kings now have wars to fight and rainforests to bulldoze, trade agreements to pass and regimes to topple. They can’t kill us anymore, and we’re done killing ourselves.

So we shine. We band together, we ignore the kings and the Rockefellers and the pro-bono prison wardens who help shame us into the margins, and we come right out into the light and take center stage.

We come out of the shadows of escapism and shine as bright and as beautiful as we can, and never stop.

They’ll never know what hit them. The demons they’ve kept hidden from our light will be dragged out kicking and screaming where everyone can see them.

And we’ll point. We’ll point in the same way the heretics and dissidents pointed right before they were beheaded and burnt at the stake, and we’ll finish what they started.

Because they can’t kill us anymore, and we’re done killing ourselves.

~ Tim Foley

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Re: 2016 was a great year.

Postby Nordic » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:56 am

John Kerry -- exposed. ISIS supporter.

https://www.sott.net/article/338536-Joh ... sure-Assad

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John Kerry admits that Russia entered Syrian war to stop ISIS, U.S. used ISIS to pressure Assad


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U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry.
Back in late September, the New York Times published an interesting piece: Audio Reveals What John Kerry Told Syrians Behind Closed Doors. (PolitRussia's Ruslan Ostashko commented on it here.) But the NYT piece left out THE most damning statements made by Kerry. The full video is below, followed by one of the biggest revelations:


26:09: "I mean, the reason Russia came in is because ISIL was getting stronger. Daesh was threatening the possibility of going to Damascus and so forth. And that's why Russia came in. Because they didn't want a Daesh government. And they supported Assad. And, and, uh, and we we know that this was growing. We were watching. We saw that, that Daesh was growing in strength. And we thought Assad was threatened. Uhh, we thought our, we could probably manage, uh, you know, that Assad might then negotiate. Instead of negotiating, you've got Assad and you've got Putin to support him."
So there you have it. From the horse's mouth. The U.S. knew that Russian intervention in Syria was for the EXPRESS PURPOSE of destroying ISIS and stopping them from taking control of the country. You know, 'ISIS', the mass murderers who have been slaughtering Europeans. And yet, the US responded to Russian efforts by repeatedly accusing Russia of 'killing civilians' and attempting to thwart Russian efforts at every turn.

In addition, as ISIS was getting stronger, threatening to take over Damascus, the US government sat back and did nothing in the hope that Assad would capitulate to ISIS. Does that make ISIS effectively a proxy US military force used to overthrow a legitimate government? You bet it does. Does that mean that the US and EU governments also saw attacks by ISIS in Europe as a useful way to garner public support for US and EU military involvement in Syria to overthrow Assad? We'll leave that one up to you.

All of this also gives the lie to the scurrilous campaign of lies and disinformation waged by the US and EU governments against the Russian operation in Syria. This was a campaign that the Russians knew was coming, because U.S. "diplomats" threatened them with that very prospect (see link below)

Maria Zakharova: Obama Admin Threatened Russia Would "Feel Pain" for Intervening in Syria - Proved That Evil Is Claimed Right of Mightiest Nation

So can we expect now that all those inveterate cretin political pundits in the US and Europe who still insist that the US and its 'partners' are 'supporting democracy' in Syria will now accept the simple and long-established truth: that for the last 15 years, the cabal of psychopaths that run the USA do exactly the opposite of what they claim to do, and that they have been waging a war OF terrorism, not a war ON terrorism?



2016 fucking rocked. Fuck John Kerry. He's a fucking monster.
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Re: 2016 was a great year.

Postby Novem5er » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:37 am

2016 was an emotionally turbulent time for myself and my family, but it has ended on an upswing. After the family tragedy we experienced in 2014, it's been a long road to recovery, but it feels like we are getting there. I'm back to work and making good money, which has a stabilizing force for the household. Work is stressful, but it's a productive kind of stress and different than what I'd been going through previously.

On the national level, yes the election sucked, but it also exposed so many flaws in the party system on both sides.

Celebrities dying? Honestly, who cares? Everyone dies and most of them lived long, successful lives. It's okay to mourn the passing of an icon that had a positive influence on our lives. I mourned Bowie and Carrie Fisher, recently However, it doesn't make it a bad year. We now celebrate over 50 years of active celebrities that are still in the public consciousness; they are going to die and regularly.

Every big story that we debated on these boards or in our personal lives has at least one silver lining: people were aware and talking about it. This is true for police shootings, to political scandal, to the pipeline protests. Now, nothing may ever change, but it certainly WON'T change if people aren't at least aware of the problems first.
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Re: 2016 was a great year.

Postby brekin » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:12 pm

I think 2016 was horrible and was the pivot point.

Ultimately, I think possibly there was a switch from a cocaine/cia/anti-russia/pro-china/friendly israel/friendly oil/brutal on the middle east based economy-politik to a
heroin/fbi/pro-russia/anti-china/full on israel/full on oil/no mercy middle east based economy-politik.

That isn't going to be good for anyone. Restructuring, total mission reorientation, new owners and downsizing are always bad. Yay! No war with Russia, but war with China?
This has to be the first time in US history where a unrepentant plutocrat oligarch with no pretense to the political process has taken control of the country. Yes, he did so because of widespread corruption, malfeasance and citizen demoralization, but Trump isn't just part of the problem, he's the very embodiment of it. Before we were dealing with corrupt and inept managers, now we are dealing with an actual owner with no filter or reducers. The guy has done what use to be much rarer, putting those in the private sector who wanted to destroy their regulatory agencies in charge of them.

Some people may think the Info Wars candidate who his friends with Putin is a step forward.
I'm just wondering what those cheering on the apocalypse hope to prove to anyone?
That many people in power are corrupt and only care for themselves?
I think we knew that without having to refight civil rights, women rights, environmental protection, freedom of the press, election tampering, etc.

Ultimately, we have three countries, and I wish Bernie, Hillary, Trump could run their own separate ones so we could see in 8 years who was full of shit and isn't. (We could give the Greens Detroit to run.) But we don't. 2016 is the year we made contact with the PTB themselves.



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Election night was the day the music died. Its all over now baby blue, so bye, bye Miss American Pie.



A long long time ago
I can still remember how that music
Used to make me smile
And I knew if I had my chance
That I could make those people dance
And maybe they'd be happy for a while
But February made me shiver
With every paper I'd deliver
Bad news on the doorstep
I couldn't take one more step
I can't remember if I cried when I
Read about his widowed bride
But something touched me deep inside
The day the music
Died

So bye, bye Miss American Pie
Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey 'n' Rye
Singin' this'll be the day that I die
This'll be the day that I die

Did you write the book of love
And do you have faith in God above
If the Bible tells you so?
Now do you believe in rock and roll?
Can music save your mortal soul?
And can you teach me how to dance real slow?

Well, I know that you're in love with him
'Cause I saw you dancin' in the gym
You both kicked off your shoes
Man, I dig those rhythm and blues
I was a lonely teenage broncin' buck
With a pink carnation and a pickup truck
But I knew I was out of luck
The day the music died

I started singin' bye, bye Miss American Pie
Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey 'n' Rye
Singin' this'll be the day that I die
This'll be the day that I die

Now, for ten years we've been on our own
And moss grows fat on a rolling stone
But, that's not how it used to be
When the jester sang for the king and queen
In a coat he borrowed from James Dean
And a voice that came from you and me
Oh, and while the king was looking down
The jester stole his thorny crown
The courtroom was adjourned
No verdict was returned
And while Lennon read a book on Marx
The quartet practiced in the park
And we sang dirges in the dark
The day the music died

We were singin' bye, bye Miss American Pie
Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey 'n' Rye
Singin' this'll be the day that I die
This'll be the day that I die

Bye, bye Miss American Pie
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Re: 2016 was a great year.

Postby 82_28 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:35 pm

Say we do "get through this" the damage has been done. Indeed, bye bye miss American Pie. We will never be the same with having post civil rights and equality movements nixed within one fell swoop. Even if the worst does not happen again the damage and the knowledge that it can be done will always be there. There never will be a country where people do not fear others any more. I see no source of hope of getting rid of both the DNC and the RNC, the evangelicals, the racists, greed. Can you think of one? Literally nothing comes to mind for me. As much as I hate to parrot the "welcome to the new normal" cliche, this is it.
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Re: 2016 was a great year.

Postby NaturalMystik » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:48 pm

It's a turbulent time for sure, but I see a lot of hope in this supposed post 2012 age of enlightenment. IMHO a lot of corruptors and evil doers are being exposed and earning their just come-uppins. This new age of transparency and lost privacy isn't all bad, at least it's getting harder for the evil doers to get away with their sh!t. Truth and light shall prevail, but we aren't out of the storm just yet. O what a brave new world, where all is known and seen...
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Re: 2016 was a great year.

Postby Nordic » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:51 pm

Y'all are proving my point.

Where's the relief, and even the acknowledgement that THE CRIMINALS BEHIND 911 ARE, AFTER 16 YEARS, NO LONGER CONTROLLING THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH OF THE US.

Isn't that a good thing?

Should I add a poll asking that question directly?
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Re: 2016 was a great year.

Postby Nordic » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:57 pm

Oh, another way 2016 was a great year:

Not only were the neocons thrown out of power, their imperialist war-crime spree, their serial destroying of other nations, with its attendant mass murder and destruction and water-poisoning (like the White Helmets are currently doing in Damascus) is drawing to a close because the one country that could stand up to the US, Russia, did so, did so brilliantly and efficiently, it is finally putting the brakes on a killing machine that STARTED ITS RAMPAGE WITH 911.

I know, but Trump hurts your feelings. Too fucking bad. Deal with it. At least he's not a neocon toady who's pledged eternal allegiance to The Dark Side.

I know most of you would rather have eight more years of the cool smiling black guy who puts a feel-good face on mass murder, but he's out of there in a couple of weeks. Sorry not sorry.

We got used to the 911 perps running things and I guess most people really don't like change after 16 years.

Stockholm Syndrome. It works.

This is why RI, and 98% of America, jumped the shark in 2016.
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Re: 2016 was a great year.

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:23 pm

Well, you definitely write like someone who had a great damn year -- sir, you are positively ebullient!

Nordic » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:57 pm wrote:I know, but Trump hurts your feelings. Too fucking bad. Deal with it. At least he's not a neocon toady who's pledged eternal allegiance to The Dark Side.


Yet. There's a lot of fellow travelers in his orbit right now.

We got used to the 911 perps running things and I guess most people really don't like change after 16 years.

Stockholm Syndrome. It works.

This is why RI, and 98% of America, jumped the shark in 2016.


Donald Trump is a wealthy real estate developer from New York City; the company he keeps might hail from different appendages of The Octopus, but fuck, he's been compromised from the start. I don't think anyone needs to feel ... obligated to celebrate his election, or get hip to Morning in America II.

If anything, the cynicism of Sean Young is more appropriate: "I’d rather have Trump than Hillary, but they’re the same. It’s a dog and pony show. It’s entertainment. It’s reality TV. It’s a little more intense than it was in past years because they know the audience needs a vigorous workout. It’s all bullshit."
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Re: 2016 was a great year.

Postby mentalgongfu2 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:26 pm

I know, but Trump hurts your feelings.


The fact that you would assert, with a straight face, that this is any RI member's primary objection to Trump, is why I see no point engaging with you on this.

Be fucking real dude. You jumped the shark when you went off into "anyone who disagrees is a whiny snowflake SJW sheeple libtard" La La land.
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Re: 2016 was a great year.

Postby 82_28 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:31 pm

Nah. He's a racist sack of shit. Nobody just "goes there" for effect, they go there because they don't give a fuck about others. It's always easy to say just kidding, but the damage has been done. He has made millions of people and their families frightened. Same goes with Clinton but she happened to do it in brown countries. I simply don't know.

If I had a dime for every time some Mexican friend came to me and asked me if I thought La Migra was coming for them over the years I would have a few more bucks. My answer was always, no, no, nothing like that will ever happen. Undocumented immigrants live in constant fear. Maybe not all, but those with wives, husbands and kids do. I was the only white boy ever invited to their family parties. It's a culture shock sorta, but it ain't my culture to judge. Women hang in the kitchen and the men and boys gather around together for instance. I have no idea. All I know is what I know.
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Re: 2016 was a great year.

Postby brekin » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:46 pm

Here, let me make it a little more plain.
Trump is on the left, Obama is on the right.
It doesn't matter who gets elected, the Empire always wins.
But it does matter how far to the Dark Side they've gone, and baby, the country is now in deep, deep sith.

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Re: 2016 was a great year.

Postby Morty » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:56 pm

I was going to start a thread a while ago on why I thought Trump was the best of all (2) options, but I couldn't do the writing of it the justice it deserves, so I'll jot a few thoughts down here instead.

My dear old mother died unexpectedly this year, yet I still think 2016 turned out pretty darn good. In its own modest way it was much more like like what 2012 was supposed by some to be - game changing, the beginning of a new era.

2 main points, 2 sides of the same coin really: The USA didn't deserve to have 8 years of swanning around basking in the glow of the first ever real life woman president, doing as it wishes with impunity. Not right after 8 years of swanning around basking in the glow of the first ever real life black president, doing as it wishes with impunity. And the world didn't deserve to have to put up with 8 more years of that bullshit either. The world deserves much better than that. With Trump, the world may not get what it deserves, but at least the US gets a more fitting leader - someone who the world is naturally skeptical of, someone whose motives will be closely examined as a matter of course. Someone who the world might even dare object to the plans of, and push back against, rather than assume, because of nothing more than an accompanying glow, that everything is hunky dory. Someone who, dare I say it, far more accurately reflects exactly what the USA is on the world stage - a greedy rich mf, marching around the fast-deteriorating planet, telling everyone else how they want things to be.

That's why I say Trump is a good fit. If people in the US don''t like how Trump looks, all we can do is point out that they're looking in a mirror.

I had hope with Obama. I did. I thought surely a black guy couldn't betray his own skin. But the most notable thing black people have to show for 8 years of black presidency is a social movement started because they were being killed by police at too great a rate. As my mother said to me once, in a quiet tone, "Why do they call him black? He's white." She was referring to the fact that Obama's mother was white. And leaving that can-of-worms in the chicken-and-egg question basket for the moment, we can at least say that Obama sure did do most of the important things (running the US empire, etc) like a white guy.

With Hillary I knew all along that there was no reason to hope, and every reason to expect more of the same, and likely a whole lot worse. Maybe 8 years ago she might have been bearable, but - I hate to be ageist* - but she's lost any sex appeal she may have had, and combine no political appeal and no sex appeal with that nagging grandma voice of hers, and I must confess, I had a feeling in my bones that the black dog might have come a-visiting again if she had got in. And I fully expected her to get in, and she didn't, which is why I say 2016 was a pretty good year after all.

(*But age does count in politics. For this reason alone I didn't ever give Bernie a snowflake's chance in hell of getting up.)
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Re: 2016 was a great year.

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:04 pm

2016 was a great year for very very rich white men
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: 2016 was a great year.

Postby 82_28 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:54 pm

While Sanders had white hair he, Clinton and trump were/are all essentially the same age. Most certainly trump and Clinton are grey.
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