Trump Inauguration Protests

[Novem5er]

I've been arguing back and forth about the Women's March. I'm not sure where I stand on it.

On one hand, I generally support protesters. Women's rights is, of course, something I support. This particular march, though, feels off to me. It seems to me that this might be the first march in American history to keep things the way they are now.

I mean, nothing has changed, yet. Sure, the GOP in congress will likely pass all sorts of legislation to upset women, and Trump will likely sign most of it. That's my point, I think . . . when that inevitably happens, then what?

Are they going to have another march? Will the press cover the next one as much? Will people be sympathetic when it's a reoccurring thing?

It really feels like this march is more about protesting the results of the election. Everyone dislikes Trump and they're afraid of what he'll do. I get it.

But shouldn't they also be marching past the DNC headquarters and demonstrating their anger at the corruption and cronyism that likely cost the Democrats the election? In my book, Trump won the election fair and square, and so my anger is directly targeted towards the party that LOST the election due to being just terrible.

Where were all these liberals marching when Obama continued to drone bomb women and children (accidentally - oops) overseas for the last 8 years? Where were they when Lybia was destroyed by American and European forces for really no reason? Where were they as the Obama administration pushed the states to open up public schools to even more high-stakes testing and corporate influence? Where were they as healthcare costs continued to skyrocket, even as the Democrats promised that the ACA would bring them down? Where has Occupy Wallstreet been as the DOW hit historic highs, but the majority of jobs created these last 8 years have been part-time, low-wage positions?

There's been plenty to protest, and there WILL BE plenty to protest. I'm just not sure if this weekend's was the most effective use of that energy, or if it was even directed at the right target.

[Heaven Swan]

I'm trying to understand why women were so quick to withhold political support and ignore the suffering of abuse survivors for the past decade+.

I'd guess it's for the usual reason, rates of sexual trauma are so high, and the vast majority of victims have never gone through any sort of healing process. When a minority begin to speak out, it evokes a host of negative feelings and responses in the others who would rather not be reminded of their own pain.

There are strong signs that the tide may be turning and guess what? the damn liberal feminist writers and pied pipers, who, to build their careers, led women into supporting pornography and prostitution as 'empowerment' and worked tirelessly to rebrand feminism as "any choice a woman chooses" are making instantaneous about-faces and claiming to be radical feminists.

Check out this excellent article on Feminist Current:
LIBERAL FEMINISTS USHERED IVANKA TRUMP INTO THE WHITE HOUSE
http://www.feministcurrent.com/2017/01/20/liberal-feminists-ushered-ivanka-trump-white-house/

Also, if you feel like talking more about it-- Why were people asking you to take down your articles? I'm not clear on their rationale, if there was one.

Interesting article, not surprising though.

Here's a link to the pm I got asking me to remove an article: http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=40310&start=15#p628166

And, I do think that 'no-platforming' would be a great thing to look at starting with its' historical use in Europe after the 2nd world war. I believe that it is still illegal for political leaders to speak and rabble rouse in public in Italy. These laws were instituted because hate-rousing speeches played such a major role in Hitler and Mussolini's rise to power. On the other hand, there's no question that no-platforming has been misused of late, and mostly deployed by liberals against radical feminists. Good topic for another thread or future discussion.

Agree!

Did you go to the DC march? What was it like?

No, in the end I couldn't go to DC (long story) but went to the NYC one.

Ever since Occupy Wall Street I've been getting an incredible contact high from demonstrations--something is truly in thr air--but this humongous women's gathering (there were so many people that the marching was minimal) felt like a huge blast of energy that initiated a revolution in consciousness.

I know, I know that we have a lot of work to do but I couln't have hoped for a better turnout and it seems like the women's movement is starting up again for real. It's about time!




Oh and BTW. Great answer -- "When they set gulags up here feel free to report me." Ha ha

[Luther Blissett]

We're organizing another for the Republican retreat downtown on Thursday. Interest in it blew up overnight.

[liminalOyster]

Four more journalists get felony charges after covering inauguration unrest

Four more journalists have been charged with felonies after being arrested while covering the unrest around Donald Trump’s inauguration, meaning that at least six media workers are facing up to 10 years in prison and a $25,000 fine if convicted.

A documentary producer, a photojournalist, a live-streamer and a freelance reporter were each charged with the most serious level of offense under Washington DC’s law against rioting, after being caught up in the police action against demonstrators.

The Guardian learned of their arrests after reporting on Monday that the journalists Evan Engel of Vocativ and Alex Rubinstein of RT America had also been taken into custody by police and charged with felonies while covering the same unrest on Friday morning.

Jack Keller, a producer for the web documentary series Story of America, said that he was detained for about 36 hours after being kettled by police at 12th and L streets on Friday morning and then arrested despite telling officers that he was covering the demonstrations as a journalist.

“The way we were treated was an absolute travesty,” said Keller, whose cellphone has been kept by the authorities. Keller’s editor, Annabel Park, said: “It is a maddening and frustrating situation. These are people who were there observing and documenting.”

Matt Hopard, an independent journalist who was live-streaming the Friday protests, was arrested at the same site as Keller, Engel and Rubinstein, according to metropolitan police records. He said in a message that he denied the charge against him.

Also arrested while covering the demonstrations at 12th and L streets were Shay Horse, an independent photojournalist and activist, and Aaron Cantú, a freelance journalist and activist, who has written for outlets including the Baffler, the Washington Spectator and the New Inquiry. Both deny wrongdoing.

In all, more than 200 people were arrested on Friday, after property was vandalized in the US capital in the hours around Trump’s swearing-in as president. Police said that six officers suffered minor injuries.

The National Lawyers’ Guild accused Washington DC’s metropolitan police department of having “indiscriminately targeted people for arrest en masse based on location alone” and said they unlawfully used teargas and other weapons.

“These illegal acts are clearly designed to chill the speech of protesters engaging in First Amendment activity,” Maggie Ellinger-Locke, of the guild’s DC branch, said in a statement.

None of the arrest reports for the six journalists makes any specific allegations about what any of them are supposed to have done wrong. Keller’s report, which also covers the arrests of an unknown number of unidentified other people, includes a note that a police vehicle was vandalized. “I had absolutely nothing to do with the vandalism,” said Keller.

Reports on the arrests of five of the six journalists contain identical language alleging that “numerous crimes were occurring in police presence”. They state that windows were broken, fires were lit and vehicles were damaged. “The crowd was observed enticing a riot by organizing, promoting, encouraging and participating in acts of violence in furtherance of the riot,” the police reports said.

The US attorney’s office for Washington DC, which is prosecuting those arrested, declined to comment on the journalists’ specific cases but said it was continuing to review evidence from the day with the police.

“Based on the facts and circumstances, we determined that probable cause existed to support the filing of felony rioting charges,” William Miller, a spokesman for the office, said in a statement. “As in all of our cases, we are always willing to consider additional information that people bring forward.”

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/four-m ... ar-AAmbHUN

[seemslikeadream]

White House Sources Say Trump Was 'Visibly Enraged' at the Size of the Women's March: Report
His outrage was the reason for Sean Spicer's authoritarian farce of a press conference.
By David Edwards / Raw Story January 24, 2017

President Donald Trump became “visibly enraged” over the weekend when he saw that the Women’s March dwarfed the size of his inauguration crowd, The Washington Post reported.

White House sources told the Post that Trump’s celebratory mood turned to “flashes of anger” less than 24 hours after he took office.

“Trump turned on the television to see a jarring juxtaposition — massive demonstrations around the globe protesting his day-old presidency and footage of the sparser crowd at his inauguration, with large patches of white empty space on the Mall,” the paper reported. “As his press secretary, Sean Spicer, was still unpacking boxes in his spacious new West Wing office, Trump grew increasingly and visibly enraged.”

Ignoring the advice of his advisers, Trump demanded Spicer deliver his now-infamous statement to the White House press corps, falsely insisting that no inauguration in history had been witnessed by more people.

On Monday, Spicer admitted that he had provided inaccurate numbers for Metro ridership on Inauguration Day, but he continued to insist that Trump’s inauguration was the most viewed ever.

“The default narrative is always negative, and it’s demoralizing,” Spicer complained on Monday. “And I think that it’s just unbelievably frustrating when you’re continually told it’s not big enough, it’s not good enough, you can’t win.”
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/w ... rch-report

[seemslikeadream]

There is no precedent in U.S. history for the show of collective outrage that answered Trump’s Inauguration. But then, there is no precedent for Trump, either: impetuous, thin-skinned and, for his trouble, entering office facing a grassroots opposition that heated up faster than a cup of ramen.

Perhaps the Largest Protest in U.S. History Was Brought to You by Trump

[MacCruiskeen]

White House Sources Say Trump Was 'Visibly Enraged' at the Size of the Women's March: Report
His outrage was the reason for Sean Spicer's authoritarian farce of a press conference.
By David Edwards / Raw Story January 24, 2017

President Donald Trump became “visibly enraged” over the weekend when he saw that the Women’s March dwarfed the size of his inauguration crowd, The Washington Post reported.

White House sources told the Post that ...

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http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/w ... rch-report

Must be true, then.

Meanwhile, Time Magazine tells us that the #Resistance is becoming a #Movement. Must be true, then.

It can only be a matter of time before Time and the WaPo tell Americans how to knit a #Revolution. The world is watching and waiting, or so my #sources tell me.

When I don't know what do with my hands, I light a cigarette. When I don't know what to do with my mind, I read Time Magazine.

[seemslikeadream]

I didn't need Time to tell me I was with 250,000 people in Chicago

not too interested in what you don't believe ...

don't need you to tell me what to believe ...nit picker

[MacCruiskeen]

Celebrity liberalism and pleas to vote Democratic are where the Left goes to die.

No wonder the Women’s March was doomed to join the list of fruitless liberal marches! Because they’re Democrats, none of the speakers suggested scrapping the whole sick system of systemized poverty, industrialized prisons, war and slave labor altogether. Instead marchers got a washed-up documentary filmmaker urging them to memorize a phone number they could use to call Congress because, yeah, that’s going to do so much good, especially these days with Republicans in charge of everything.

- January 24, 2017 The Women’s March Was a Dismal Failure and a Hopeful Sign, by Ted Rall

[seemslikeadream]

White House Sources Say Trump Was 'Visibly Enraged' at the Size of the Women's March: Report


LOVE IT





A protest called "The Mike Pence Queer Dance Party" outside of Pence's Home in Chevy Chase, Maryland. The dance event was organized by LGBTQ activist groups DisruptJ20 and WERK for Peace to protest Mike Pence's record on gay and transgender rights on Jan. 18, 2017.

[Luther Blissett]

Yesterday in Philly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4bR-p06E4U


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S576OHEbx0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCszcXrhYQ8

[Luther Blissett]

And here's the daytime shit, not as radical as the nighttime shit but still cool.
http://uproxx.com/news/philadelphia-don ... reactions/

[seemslikeadream]

fantastic!
love them

[JackRiddler]

And here's the daytime shit, not as radical as the nighttime shit but still cool.
http://uproxx.com/news/philadelphia-don ... reactions/

The unrelated video above the story asks, "Do Donald Trump's tweets impact the world?" I had not followed, but his tweets have caused instantaneous crashes in the stock prices of Lockheed (when he criticized a fighter plane), Boeing (when he said $4B for AF1 was too much), and Toyota (attacked for announcing a factory in Mexico).

Is there a consolidated put market? Can one see all short sells on stocks somewhere?

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[MacCruiskeen]

And here's the daytime shit, not as radical as the nighttime shit but still cool.
http://uproxx.com/news/philadelphia-don ... reactions/

The unrelated video above the story asks, "Do Donald Trump's tweets impact the world?" I had not followed, but his tweets have caused instantaneous crashes in the stock prices of Lockheed (when he criticized a fighter plane), Boeing (when he said $4B for AF1 was too much), and Toyota (attacked for announcing a factory in Mexico).

What Democratic President has ever come close to annoying the military-industrial complex so much, and so quickly too?

Certainly, a man who annoys Josef Joffe* into issuing barely-veiled death threats is not entirely without redeeming qualities, so far. He's living dangerously, that's for sure.

*The title page of Die Zeit last week was hilarious in its panic, but I can't find it online.