The Festering Darkness That is Steve Bannon

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Re: The Festering Darkness That is Steve Bannon

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:23 am

Want to understand what Trump and Bannon are up to? Look to the Russian Revolution of 1917
The super moon rises through the clouds over a statue of Soviet Union founder Vladimir Lenin at the Russian leased Baikonur cosmodrome, Kazakhstan, Monday, Nov. 14, 2016.
An unlikely playbook. (AP Photo/Dmitri Lovetsky)

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The key to a successful insurrection, Vladimir Lenin wrote three days before the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917, was the seizure of the telephone and telegraph. Every Soviet child, including myself, learned this dictum in the fourth grade.
In the 21st century, I never thought I’d have reason to reflect on Lenin’s advice again. The Soviet Union is long gone; I now live in the US. Then, in the first month of the centennial anniversary of the Russian Revolution, Americans inaugurated Donald Trump as their 45th president. This is a man who, in alliance with most radical elements of the Republican Party, has flooded the country’s media channels with fake news and conspiracy theories. If Trump hasn’t yet seized the modern-day equivalents of the telephone and the telegraph, he has certainly managed to scramble their signals.
Does Trump’s victory and his cabinet appointments genuinely amount to a government takeover akin to the one staged by the Bolshevik Party in 1917? If we view Trump’s “movement” as a radical faction within the Republican Party that has swept him to power despite opposition from within the party, the comparison is not as far-fetched as it may seem.
The disturbing parallels between Lenin and Trump include the role that foreign interference appears to have played in their rise to power. Although never definitively proven, Lenin’s rapid assent to power has long been credited to the complicity of Germany, which had a vital interest in destabilizing Russia, their key adversary in World War I. An exile in Switzerland up until April 1917, Lenin and his comrades had been allowed to pass through German lands in a special “sealed train” and eventually reach Petrograd. There, he joined other Bolsheviks to plot the second—proletarian—revolution. According to many prominent historians, Germans also provided significant funding for Pravda, the newspaper that spread the Bolsheviks’ propaganda.
One hundred years later in the US, American intelligence agencies and bipartisan members of Congress have come to a consensus that the revanchist and anti-democratic government of Russia meddled in the 2016 US election, using cyber warfare to tip the scales toward the pro-Putin candidate. What seemed unimaginable just a few months ago—lifting Western sanctions imposed on Russia for its annexation of Crimea—is now possible. In the post-industrial world, totalitarianism, too, can become global.
Now, despite losing the popular vote by nearly three million people, the new US president is forcing a radical agenda upon his country that is contrary to the beliefs of at least half of the 2016 electorate. If his victory is viewed as a kind of government takeover, aided by a hostile foreign power, the shock and unprecedented grief experienced by the 62 million Americans who voted for Clinton is not the loser’s inability to move on, and no “bubble.” It is something akin to what the Russians experienced 100 years ago when they woke up to the news that the legitimate provisional government had been disbanded by the Bolsheviks, whose stated agenda was the destruction of the Russian state and building a completely different—Soviet—entity in its stead. Indeed, the president’s chief strategist, Steve Bannon, has himself cited Lenin as an influence. Writer and historian Ronald Radosh wrote in the Daily Beast that Bannon approvingly told him in 2013, “Lenin wanted to destroy the state, and that’s my goal too. I want to bring everything crashing down, and destroy all of today’s establishment.”
But if Bannon can model his strategy after Lenin’s, so too can Trump’s opponents heed the lessons of the Russian Revolution. The Bolsheviks succeeded by activating fringe groups, including radicalized proletariats and soldiers deserting the war, and by demagoguery summed up in the slogans “Peace to the Peoples,” “Land to the Peasants,” and “All Power to the Soviets.” In the months leading up to the October coup, they spread false rumors about the provisional government colluding with the Germans, the personal life of the government’s leader, Alexander Kerensky, and generally equated the government with “exploiters,” “war profiteers,” and “traitors to the people.”
In 2016, Trump’s campaign adopted a similar strategy by mobilizing the economically disadvantaged—as well as racist, nativist, and other right-wing groups—against the so-called “coastal elites.” The difference is that while pre-revolutionary Russia had been truly devastated by World War I, Trump and company perpetuated the myth of American decline in an expanding economy (which also happens to be the largest and one of the richest in the world). This is not to deny the real economic struggles faced by many Americans—only to note that, in the reality shaped by mainstream and social media, Trump’s virtual “American Carnage” proved as persuasive as a real war.
Trump’s decision to appoint billionaires, bankers, and oil tycoons to his cabinet signifies that his administration does not plan to even pay lip service to a democratic government. The fact that many of the new cabinet members lack relevant expertise doesn’t matter; Lenin famously maintained that “any cook can run the state.”
Trump is no revolutionary, at least not in the Lenin’s sense of the word. He doesn’t seem to care about ideology, and he’s no ascetic. But fundamentally, their goals are not that different.
Lenin viewed the world as a space in which he could build the dictatorship of the proletariat with himself at the helm. To Trump, the world is a collection of structures upon which he can stamp his own name. Both gave little credence to the expertise or knowledge of others; both had no problem pandering to the basest instincts of the human race.
We should remember, however, that revolutions are only able to take hold when the majority remains complacent. Right now, Trump’s voting base is likely maxed out at the roughly 63 million people who voted for him. (Given the intensity of feelings he ignites in both supporters and opponents, let’s assume that most people who wanted to vote for him did so.) Roughly 66 million people voted for Hillary Clinton. And about 42% of eligible voters—that is, an estimated 95 million—stayed home, choosing to vote for no one at all.
This “silent majority” is not necessarily in the Trump camp. They did not vote to end Affordable Care, Medicaid, and Social Security. They do not necessarily believe that the best government is one that’s designed by billionaires, for billionaires, or that climate change is a hoax. It is these voters who need to be mobilized to protect our democracy.
If there is any lesson from the Russian Revolution, it is that active engagement with the base is critical. That doesn’t mean that Democrats should focus on fundraising emails and better slogans: It means they need to work to understand why a substantial chunk of eligible voters did not view November 2016 as a referendum on the American way of life. They then need to mold the progressive coalition to accommodate voters’ concerns and struggles, so that the fight against conservative takeover becomes their fight.
The Democrats cannot afford to mull this over. The effort needs to happen quickly. What’s at stake—democracy in the US and around the world—is too important to “wait and see.” We all know who came after Lenin.
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Re: The Festering Darkness That is Steve Bannon

Postby Luther Blissett » Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:42 am

seemslikeadream » Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:10 pm wrote:bannon is a fucking Leninist PIG

he can take that puke coming out of his mouth catch it in a mug then put it up to his lips and swallow it...when it comes out the other end it will be exactly what it is pork fecal matter littered with trichinosis


I highly doubt that he believes "from each according to their ability, to each according to their needs," or that the poor should have more power. It's just a lie.

If he's just taking the consolidated state power portion of the philosophy, he can't call himself a leninist.
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Re: The Festering Darkness That is Steve Bannon

Postby 8bitagent » Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:48 am

If Alex Jones had played his cards right with "Trump Insider" Roger Stone, maybe Alex Jones could have ended up where Steve Bannon is. ie: the new Cheney. It just happened to be the head of a rival right wing crackpot website. Just imagine that...Alex Jones could be in control of the US government, intel and military like Bannon is...able to create his very own "government false flag terror ops!"

Now that'd be a fun new spin one of those windbags at The Atlantic or Salon could write. "How a reality tv star and 80s celebrity tycoon paired with a fringe right wing anti nwo conspiracy nut to take over
the government and be the most powerful duo on Earth".

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Re: The Festering Darkness That is Steve Bannon

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:45 am

Except Alex Jones is running on about 20% of Bannon's IQ. Which, for his role, is an asset.
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Re: The Festering Darkness That is Steve Bannon

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:47 pm

Steve Bannon now gets to help decide war and peace
Updated by Yochi Dreazen Jan 31, 2017, 11:30am EST

Steve Bannon, the chief strategist in President Trump’s White House, is a bare-knuckled political brawler who has told the news media to “keep its mouth shut” and helped craft a controversial new executive order on immigration without talking to the Cabinet secretaries charged with carrying it out.

All of that makes his new appointment to a full seat on the Principals Committee of the National Security Council all the more jarring. No White House political adviser has ever previously served on the NSC, which is charged with giving Trump unvarnished advice about literal life-and-death national security issues.

It’s difficult to overstate the significance of Bannon’s appointment — or the dangers. Bannon made his name at Breitbart News, a far-right and Islamophobic news site that once used a photo of an old Adidas shirt as evidence that Islamist terrorists were sneaking across the Mexican border (Breitbart claimed it was a Muslim prayer rug). He has also had a long career directing pseudo-documentaries with titles like District of Corruption and In the Face of Evil: Reagan’s War in Word and Deed. Now he has a seat at the table where questions of war and peace are debated and decided.

Bannon’s elevation would be surprising in and of itself. But what makes it truly alarming — to critics from both parties — is that it’s taking place alongside a separate provision downgrading the status of the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the director of national intelligence. Under all previous presidents, both officeholders attended all NSC meetings. In the Trump administration, they’ll only come when “issues pertaining to their responsibilities and expertise are to be discussed.”

This means that a political operative with zero national security or foreign policy experience will now have the same status as the heads of the Pentagon and State Department — and will in some ways outrank the nation’s top military officer and the head of the entire intelligence community.

“Republicans and Democrats have always understood that this was not a place for politics,” said Ryan Crocker, who frequently briefed the NSC during his time as ambassador to Iraq and then to Afghanistan. “If the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the director of national intelligence aren’t involved, who’s providing the military perspective and the intelligence background? How can hard decisions be made if some of the important voices aren’t even in the room?”

Trump’s executive order temporarily banning immigration from seven majority-Muslim nations is rightly attracting enormous amounts of political, legal, and media scrutiny. On the surface, White House personnel moves don’t seem even remotely as important. This one, though, is getting more public notice than you’d expect, like in this widely shared photo from an anti-ban protest at Los Angeles International airport:


That’s because this is no ordinary White House, and these are no ordinary bureaucratic changes. They will — in a very tangible way — help shape the future of the entire Trump administration and the future of US foreign policy.

The National Security Council isn’t a place for politics — but Trump may make it one
The NSC was created in 1947 so the nation’s military, diplomatic, and intelligence officials would have a place to analyze specific short- and long-term aspects of US foreign policy and national security. It has a staff of nearly 200 people, mostly career civil servants and military officers detailed from places like the CIA. Those staffers are overseen by a small number of political appointees from the new administration.

The principals committee itself, which Bannon is now joining, is a very different beast. That’s a far more exclusive place where the most powerful people in the US government — like the secretary of state and the secretary of defense — gather to debate and discuss specific questions about counterterrorism, military operations, and other vital issues before kicking them up to the president for a final decision on how to proceed. (They are chaired by the national security adviser; the president himself doesn’t attend them.)

This is Washington, so political considerations have always impacted the NSC’s work, but presidents of both parties have worked hard to draw a line between domestic political considerations and the life-and-death questions faced by the NSC.

President George W. Bush’s top political aide Karl Rove once attended an NSC meeting, and the president was so livid that he told Rove to never do so again. Former Bush Chief of Staff Josh Bolten, who described the exchange at a conference about the NSC last fall, said Bush believed Rove’s mere presence sent the wrong message.

“The president also knew that the signal he wanted to send to the rest of his administration, the signal he wanted to send to the public, and the signal he especially wanted to send to the military is that the decisions I’m making that involve life and death for the people in uniform will not be tainted by any political decisions,” Bolten said.

According to the New York Times, President Obama allowed top political strategist David Axelrod to sit in on some NSC meetings, but gave him no formal role and made no effort to downgrade the relative status of the chairman of the Joint Chiefs or the director of national intelligence.

Bannon, by contrast, will be a permanent part of the NSC for the duration of the Trump presidency. That means he’ll have a voice in discussions over complex issues like how to handle the war in Syria, whether to ramp up US counterterrorism efforts in Yemen — where a member of the Navy’s elite SEAL Team Six was killed last weekend — or whether to use force against Iran.

BANNON, A POLITICAL OPERATIVE WITH NO NATIONAL SECURITY EXPERIENCE, WILL NOW HAVE THE SAME STATUS AS THE HEADS OF THE PENTAGON AND STATE DEPARTMENT
Bannon’s mere presence during those discussions could prove problematic because the political and national security imperatives facing the NSC are often at odds with each other.

In 2007, the Bush administration began debating whether to “surge” tens of thousands of American reinforcements to Iraq, where the worsening civil war had triggered unprecedented levels of carnage. Bush’s military advisers believed sending more troops was the only way to turn around a failing war, but the notion of doubling down on what many Americans saw as a lost cause had little public support.

Crocker, who participated in the NSC deliberations from his embassy in Baghdad, told me that Bush might not have made the decision to order the reinforcements if a prominent political adviser like Bannon had been sitting at the table and thinking solely in terms of domestic political considerations.

“If we had that model during Iraq, it would have been a very different outcome, because politically the surge was so unpopular at home,” Crocker told me.

Charles Kupchan, who just stepped down as the NSC’s senior director for European affairs under Obama, said Bannon’s mere presence at the table could hamper the talks because staffers wouldn’t feel free to openly discuss topics that might be at odds with current Trump administration thinking on a given issue.

“His presence could stymie debate because Cabinet members may be less willing to speak up knowing that the president’s consigliere is in the room,” said Kupchan, now a professor at Georgetown University and senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations. “We also need to be honest: This is not just about any political adviser being added to the NSC. It’s about this specific political adviser, with the temperament he has and the views he espouses. They don’t make him seem particularly well-suited to this kind of job.”

Stephen Biddle, a professor of political science and international relations at George Washington University, said it’s legitimate for a president to want to make sure he has political support for his foreign and national security policies. The problem, he told me, comes from “subordinating foreign policy as an instrument to serve domestic partisan advantage.”

Biddle also noted that elevating Bannon while demoting the chairman of the Joint Chiefs and the director of national intelligence removes people with deep expertise on the complicated issues the NSC has to confront while replacing them with a man who knows politics, not national security.

“For an administration whose early behavior has been marked by apparent great interest in domestic political messaging and limited interest in the details of policy content, this is not a promising sign,” Biddle said.

Indeed, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Joseph Dunford, actually released a highly unusual statement effectively insisting that he will still be an important player in the Trump White House and that he will “fully participate” in White House debates on national security.

The NSC was in bad shape before Bannon got there. It’s going to get worse.
Bannon’s promotion to the NSC may be even more problematic because of the man nominally running the show: National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, a retired Army general.

When he assumes his new role, Bannon will be joining an NSC suffering from what close observers describe as low morale, staffing woes (the administration has yet to fill dozens of key posts), and lingering questions about Flynn’s competence and temperament.

The Obama administration fired Flynn from his last post in government, as the Pentagon’s intelligence chief. As my colleague Zack Beauchamp and I have written, Flynn “swims in the same swamp of hyperpartisan, frequently fabricated, and disturbingly anti-Muslim rhetoric” as Bannon. Flynn’s tweets include a video that claims “Islam ... wants 80 percent of humanity enslaved or exterminated,” which he captioned “Fear of Muslims is RATIONAL.”

Guessing how long Flynn — who has been clashing with Defense Secretary James Mattis and other top Trump officials in recent weeks — will keep his job has become a popular Washington parlor game (my money is on him being out by spring).

But Flynn’s departure may come even sooner than that. According to the New York Times, Trump himself has rapidly begun to sour on Flynn “because of his sometimes overbearing demeanor” and for “presiding over a chaotic and opaque NSC transition process.” And that’s not all:

Mr. Flynn’s reputation has raised questions among some in the cabinet. Two weeks ago, both men held a meeting with Rex W. Tillerson, Mr. Trump’s pick to run the State Department, Mr. Mattis and Mike Pompeo, now the C.I.A. director, to discuss coordination — Mr. Flynn was invited but did not attend.

Part of the meeting was devoted to discussing concerns about Mr. Flynn, according to an official with knowledge of it.
If Flynn leaves or is pushed out, Bannon will be the NSC member with the closest and longest-standing ties to the president. He took over Trump’s presidential campaign at its lowest moment and helped right the ship, in part by encouraging Trump to adopt an even more nationalist message rather than to move to a more conventional one.

Since Trump’s surprise win, Bannon has become one of the most powerful people in the new administration, playing a key role in picking individual Cabinet appointees and helping to personally craft the new president’s enormously controversial executive orders. Trump, according to Politico, sees Bannon “as a peer rather than as an employee” who shares his disdain for the Washington establishment.

With his ascent to the NSC, Bannon’s influence over Washington’s most powerful national security organization will almost certainly grow, not shrink, in the months and years ahead. Steve Bannon’s tenure at the NSC has just started. It won’t be ending anytime soon.
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Re: The Festering Darkness That is Steve Bannon

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:21 pm

Luther Blissett » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:42 am wrote:I highly doubt that he believes "from each according to their ability, to each according to their needs," or that the poor should have more power. It's just a lie.

If he's just taking the consolidated state power portion of the philosophy, he can't call himself a leninist.


Based on my understanding of the man, Bannon is nearly the epitome of a Leninist -- at least, far more than the "Tankies" at Left Forum could ever aspire to.

Did Lenin ever believe in anything but power?

Since I'm still digesting Seeing Like a State, I do wonder if Bannon is really a believer in "High Modernism," though. He seems to have a reactionary disdain for social engineering and bureaucracy.

http://innovationpatterns.blogspot.com/2016/04/04-26-2016-macro-scale.html

Until recently, the ability of the state to impose its schemes on society was limited by the state's modest ambitions and its limited capacity. Although Utopian aspirations to a finely tuned social control can be traced back to Enlightenment thought and to monastic and military practices, the eighteenth-century European state was still largely a machine for extraction. It is true that state officials, particularly under absolutism, had mapped much more of their kingdoms populations, land tenures, production and trade than their predecessors had and that they had become increasingly efficient in pumping revenue, grain, and conscripts from the countryside. But the was more than a little irony in their claim to absolute rule.

They lacked the consistent coercive power, the fine-grained administrative grid, or the detailed knowledge that would have permitted them to undertake more intrusive experiments in social engineering. To give their growing ambitions full rein, they required a far greater hubris, a state machinery that was equal to the task, and a society they could master By the mid-nineteenth century in the West and by the early twentieth century elsewhere, these conditions were being met.

I believe that many of the most tragic episodes of state development in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries originate in a particularly pernicious combination of three elements. The first is the aspiration to the administrative ordering of nature and society, an aspiration that we have already seen in scientific forestry, but one raised to a far more comprehensive and ambitious level. "High Modernism" seems an appropriate term for this aspiration.

As a faith, it was shared across a large spectrum of political ideologies. Its main carriers and exponents were the avant-garde among engineers, planners, technocrats, high-level administrators, architects, scientists and visionaries. If one were to imagine a pantheon or Hall of Fame of high-modernist figures, it would almost certainly include such names as Henri Comte de Saint-Simon, Le Corbusier, Walther Rathenau, Robert McNamara, Robert Moses, Jean Monnet, the Shah of Iran, David Lilienthal, Vladimir Lenin, Leon Trotsky and Julius Nyerere. They envisioned a sweeping, rational engineering of all aspects of social life in order to improve the human condition.

As a conviction, high modernism was not the exclusive property of any political tendency; it had both right- and left-wing variants, as we shall see. The second element is the unrestrained use of the power of the modern state as an instrument for achieving those designs. The third element is a weakened or prostrate civil society that lacks the capacity to resist these plans. The ideology of high modernism provides, as it were, the desire; the modern state provides the means of acting on that desire; and the incapacitated civil society provides the leveled terrain on which to build dystopias.

...but here it is important to note that many of the great state-sponsored calamities of the twentieth century have been the work of rulers with grandiose and utopian plans for their society. One can identify a high modernist utopianism of the right, of which Nazism is surely the diagnostic example. The massive social engineering under Aparteid in South Africa, the modernization plans of the Shah of Iran, villagization in Vietnam, the huge late-colonial development schemes (for example, the Gezira scheme in the Sudan) could be considered under this rubric. And yet there is no denying that much of this massive, state-enforced social engineering of the twentieth century has been the work of progressive, often revolutionary elites. Why?

The answer, I believe, lies in the fact that it is typically progressives who come to power with a comprehensive critique of existing society and a popular mandate (at least initially) to transform it. These progressives have wanted to use that power to bring about enormous changes in people's habits, work, living patterns, moral conduct and worldview. They have deployed what Havel has called "the armory of holistic social engineering." Utopian aspirations per se are not dangerous. Where the utopian vision goes wrong is when it is held by ruling elites with no commitment to democracy or civil rights and who are therefore likely to use unbridled state power for its achievement. Where it goes brutally wrong is when the society subjected to such experiments lacks the capacity to mount a determined resistance.

- James C. Scott, Seeing Like a State p. 88-89.
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Re: The Festering Darkness That is Steve Bannon

Postby brekin » Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:16 pm

Yes, and Bannon may even be smarter than Lenin. Bannon was a Navy officer and special assistant, tripled degree (urban planning, national security studies, MBA from Harvard), investment banker Goldman Sachs and then his own firm, environmental researcher, screenwriter, film and tv executive producer, news and media magnate, chief presidential strategist, and who knows what he's also been involved in off the books. He's like a scary amalgam of Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin. And he's really pulled off a revolution by just shooting for the top of the mountain and hitting it. It's like Lenin, going, you know, why don't we just run Stalin as candidate for the Russian Emperor? You know, and skip all this slow march of revolutionary progress?
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Re: The Festering Darkness That is Steve Bannon

Postby Luther Blissett » Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:21 pm

Maybe I need to stop framing Lenin only against the tsar? 21st century america, despite its many flaws, was not turn-of-the-century Russia. He's more like the counter-Lenin.

Young Lenin was definitely driven by a much different set of empathetic, egalitarian, worker-loving revolutionary ideologies than I've ever seen in Bannon.

I'm not a tankie but that whole thing really comes off as absurd.
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Re: The Festering Darkness That is Steve Bannon

Postby Elvis » Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:16 pm

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon

Early life, family and education

Stephen Kevin Bannon was born on November 27, 1953, in Norfolk, Virginia, the son of Doris (Herr) and Martin Bannon, a telephone lineman.[26][27] His family were working-class, Irish Catholic, pro-Kennedy, pro-union Democrats.[28][29] He graduated from Virginia Tech in 1976 with a bachelor's degree in urban planning and holds a master's degree in National Security Studies from Georgetown University School of Foreign Service. In 1985,[31] Bannon received a Master of Business Administration degree with honors from Harvard Business School.[32]


Service in U.S. Navy

Bannon was an officer in the United States Navy for seven years in the late 1970s and early 1980s, serving on the destroyer USS Paul F. Foster as a Surface Warfare Officer in the Pacific Fleet and stateside as a special assistant to the Chief of Naval Operations at the Pentagon.[33]



Net worth estimated $10M
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Re: The Festering Darkness That is Steve Bannon

Postby brekin » Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:24 pm

I don't know what that is supposed to accomplish.
We should email him and his friends to let him know we don't agree with his policies and we even have thread about him going? Do a candle light vigil outside one of his residencies?
I think there is even a rule against doxxing.
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Re: The Festering Darkness That is Steve Bannon

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:26 pm

brekin » Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:24 pm wrote:I think there is even a rule against doxxing.


Only applies if one of you cops to being Bannon.
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Re: The Festering Darkness That is Steve Bannon

Postby brekin » Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:39 pm

Wombaticus Rex » Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:26 pm wrote:
brekin » Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:24 pm wrote:I think there is even a rule against doxxing.


Only applies if one of you cops to being Bannon.


Alas, my festering darkness isn't quite to Green Man level.

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Re: The Festering Darkness That is Steve Bannon

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:23 pm

that is so precious

have you trumped the donald?

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Re: The Festering Darkness That is Steve Bannon

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:40 pm

Agent Orange Cooper » Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:08 pm wrote:Worth watching. 'AMAZING' overstates it... more like 'common sense.'



Well Agent Orange Cooper, since I started this thread you're replying to, I'll bite. I watched all 24 minutes of this ideological propaganda and really struggled to find anything resembling 'common sense' as Thomas Paine would understand the phrase. How is calling the Tea Party "center-right" and "the backbone of our country" common sense? How is praising Sarah Palin as "Walmart Nation" common sense? Most embarrassing of all, how is describing the Koch brothers astroturf groups AFP and Club for Growth as "grassroots organizations" common sense? That's only 'common sense' as Glenn Beck would understand the phrase.

But that goes to show how dated his 'philosophy' is: even Glenn Beck now thinks Bannon is a nightmare. Not that he really shows that much philosophy, he rails on about debt and deficits but the only solution he mentions is "no more tax increases." When this video was done six years ago, he spoke out against "crony capitalism", yet this weekend was the architect of an immigration ban on seven predominately Muslim countries that by complete coincidence managed to omit the predominately Muslim countries that Bannon's boss Trump does business with, like Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Turkey, the UAE, Egypt and Indonesia. Looks like Bannon's 'common sense' in action is different cronies, same shitty capitalism.

AOC, I don't know why you chose Lee Harvey Oswald as your avatar, but I consider him to be both one of the biggest tools and one of the biggest victims of the Military-Industrial Complex. Do you really see the MIC shrinking under Trump/Bannon's term? I certainly don't, considering how many military men Trump has stacked his administration with, how Trump made clear the hiring freeze does not apply to the military, and the deregulation they champion particularly in oil, gas and coal production. Perhaps allowing the MIC unregulated growth doesn't concern you. Maybe you could clarify what you consider 'common sense'.
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