I support Free Speech. I support everyone’s right to share reasonable positions within a free society, with the intent of the betterment of society.
..er....that ain't no definition of "free-speech" dude...
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I support Free Speech. I support everyone’s right to share reasonable positions within a free society, with the intent of the betterment of society.
semper occultus » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:39 pm wrote:I support Free Speech. I support everyone’s right to share reasonable positions within a free society, with the intent of the betterment of society.
..er....that ain't no definition of "free-speech" dude...
liminalOyster » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:01 pm wrote:semper occultus » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:39 pm wrote:I support Free Speech. I support everyone’s right to share reasonable positions within a free society, with the intent of the betterment of society.
..er....that ain't no definition of "free-speech" dude...
A I [do not] support everyone's right to share [un]reasonable positions within a free society.
B I [do not] support everyone’s right to share reasonable positions within a free society, with[out] the intent of the betterment of society.
jakell » 28 Feb 2017 03:08 wrote:
It is this point where those who are mildly critical of the Left started to see and describe real problems (Sargon would be a good example).
I flagged it up on here when transgender issues started to be pushed as if they had (and had always had) equal significance to the other points regarding race, class and gender etc, whereas in fact they were pretty much a very recent (and exotic) arrival.
Some see this (and other subsequent minutiae) as enthusiastic mistakes, but there is a more sinister possibility.. that the pushing of these burgeoning additions and amendments to traditional Leftist activitities is an experiment, a 'weather balloon' to see what can be got away with. Of course this would be performed by actors outside of traditional political alignments.
White Men And Their Words
Milo rose to fame as an internet troll, leading unhesitant derision on people like Ghostbusters star Leslie Jones. The digital stalking was almost always tinged with racism, misogyny, and virulent Islamophobia and transphobia, where Milo developed his own style where he would rapid-fire misrepresented statistics to argue for the pathetic inferiority of almost everyone in his wake. At Breitbart, Milo may have found his home as the publication created by Tea Party star Andrew Breitbart pushed further into the direction of nativism, all under the heading of Steve Bannon.
Milo may have even outgrown his role at Breitbart as he hit the college circuit, creating a growing cult of young white men radicalized through social ineptitudes and the offensiveness-as-praxis of message boards. He flirted with the hardline white nationalism of the Alt Right, but only until it became too toxic and he was able to scrape a layer of post-conservative “cool” off the top to increase his star. He had become what he wanted: a loved/hated icon of the loud, privileged white male.
While Milo has been lamented as less than a traditional conservative, an estimation he would likely agree with, his ideas are not that far outside the mainstream for the GOP. He persists that homosexuality is a choice, that Islam is inherently dangerous to the West, that transgender people are mentally ill, that fat people are sick, and that if Black Lives Matters cared about black lives they would intercede on “black crime.” While he may say this with a certain gusto designed to rile up his opposition, it is simply the blunt edge of the slightly more nuanced script of CPAC and its Heartland base. What Milo has achieved is to make the far right cool again, and allow the revolutionary vision of the Alt Right an access to a new generation of college-aged white men.
Lance Wallnau Claims Milo Yiannopoulos ‘In The Name Of Jesus For The Kingdom Of God’
By Kyle Mantyla | March 15, 2017 11:16 am
Last week, right-wing preacher Lance Wallnau appeared on the Charisma podcast with Steve Strang, where he claimed Alt-Right troll Milo Yiannopoulos for Jesus Christ and prophesied that he will one day be leading revivals on college campuses.
Wallnau said that he began listening to Yiannopoulos in the wake of the controversy regarding his comments condoning pederasty and found him to be a brave truth-teller who “is exposing the tyranny and fascist spirit behind the progressive left.” Yiannopoulos is like “a prophetic fencer just scoring point after point,” Wallnau said, which is why the left is out to destroy him.
But the left will not destroy him, Wallnau predicted, because Yiannopoulos is going to undergo a radical religious conversion and lead an army of millennial prophets who will take on the left.
“I’m claiming Milo in the name of Jesus for the Kingdom of God,” Wallnau declared. “Just like [Donald] Trump was an unlikely candidate for us as a deliverer in the presidency … God hid himself in Trump, I think God is hiding himself in Milo and I’m calling him out in Jesus’ name to salvation.”
“Red rover, red rover, call Milo over,” he continued. “The church doesn’t want people like him, but God wants him in the church. Father, we call for Milo in Jesus’ name. We call, Lord, that You will break every cycle of destruction, every spirit that is assigned to him to destroy, distort, to wound and to lock him up. We pray for shafts of light to come from heaven into his heart, divine encounters with the Gospel in unique and unusual ways, we pray for Jesus to be made manifest in his dreams.”
Wallnau said that Yiannopoulos will be part of an “army of millennial young prophets who will expose the enemy” and prophesied that “Milo is going to be doing campus revivals in the future.”
Troll Me A River: Alt-Lite Event Backed by Billionaires Implodes
The original list of speakers included everyone from Steve Bannon of Breitbart, #PizzaGate conspiracy theorist Mike Cernovich of InfoWars, a fired Google employee James Damore who penned a memo against diversity in the workplace, racist anti-immigrant talking head Ann Coulter with known ties to white nationalist groups like V-DARE, to even Charles Murray, a white nationalist who argued in The Bell Curve that African-Americans have lower IQs and are more prone to crime than whites.
But quickly many of these speakers cancelled or dropped out and the Berkeley Patriot, a front group for the Berkeley College Republicans, along with Milo Inc., failed to get their paper work done on time, leading them to lose access to a variety of buildings on campus. Even Alt-Lite celebrities like Lucian Wintrich, long tied to Milo, withdrew from the event, as big names like Ann Coulter and Bannon were not far behind.
liminalOyster » 23 Feb 2017 16:58 wrote:Sarah Nyberg, a trans activist of sorts who Milo outed for: having called herself a pedophile, having shared explicit photos of her 8 yo niece and other children, etc. had this to say yesterday:.
FWIW, Nyberg is followed by Shaun King on Twitter.
I really can't even.
In defending himself and donning the mantle of victimhood, Milo has the temerity to bring up, as a point in his favor, the relentless mass harassment campaign he helped to wage against prominent GamerGate critic Sarah Nyberg. First he mis-genders Nyberg, who is trans, before going on to list her as one of the three “pedophiles” he's “outed” in his “journalistic” career.
I urge everyone--including those of you who think you know the full story behind all this--to read Nyberg’s account of what Milo and his troll army put her through, just because she voiced an opinion that ran counter to theirs, putting a torch to the delusion that the alt.right has anything whatsoever to do with "free speech". As you read Nyberg's account, keep in mind that, in his "apology", Milo was using this as an example of the good that he's done in the world.
The irony here is that even her fiercest critics tacitly acknowledge Nyberg’s youth was steeped in real trauma, even if only because they use the details of that trauma to viciously troll, humiliate, and harass her. And yet, despite this, every indication points to her worst transgressions being confined to an online fantasy world of role play. Milo's self-confessed antics--which include attending parties where underage “twinks” serviced sugar daddies while he looked on, presumably laughing and snorting fat rails of cocaine all the while--are an order of magnitude worse.
liminalOyster » 25 Sep 2017 21:50 wrote:Hi Jerky. That was ages ago but yes I am aware of terrible people who went after Nyberg in terrible ways. I'm also not a Trump supporter or apologist if that was implied by the end of your comments though I could easily be misreading or taking too personally. My point in any comparison between Milo and Nyberg was just to note that same old cog dis which feels so familiar lately wherein moral judgment is increasingly unevenly applied to allies and enemies.
It's a moot point these days, anyways; predictably so I guess, Milo chose to double down on the campy evil so any hopes I may have had for a redemptive return to consensus empathic reality were dashed long ago. This video pretty much convinced me he's a sociopath.
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