Video surfaces of Milo Yiannopoulos defending pedophilia

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Re: Video surfaces of Milo Yiannopoulos defending pedophilia

Postby semper occultus » Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:39 am

I support Free Speech. I support everyone’s right to share reasonable positions within a free society, with the intent of the betterment of society.


..er....that ain't no definition of "free-speech" dude...
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Re: Video surfaces of Milo Yiannopoulos defending pedophilia

Postby liminalOyster » Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:01 am

semper occultus » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:39 pm wrote:
I support Free Speech. I support everyone’s right to share reasonable positions within a free society, with the intent of the betterment of society.


..er....that ain't no definition of "free-speech" dude...


Thus, I assume, the author would also say:

I [do not] support everyone's right to share [un]reasonable positions within a free society.
I [do not] support everyone’s right to share reasonable positions within a free society, with[out] the intent of the betterment of society.
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Re: Video surfaces of Milo Yiannopoulos defending pedophilia

Postby Luther Blissett » Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:58 am

"Minimizing the amount of hatred deliberately spread in the world" is a succinct way of describing…something.
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Re: Video surfaces of Milo Yiannopoulos defending pedophilia

Postby Searcher08 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:38 am

liminalOyster » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:01 pm wrote:
semper occultus » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:39 pm wrote:
I support Free Speech. I support everyone’s right to share reasonable positions within a free society, with the intent of the betterment of society.


..er....that ain't no definition of "free-speech" dude...


A I [do not] support everyone's right to share [un]reasonable positions within a free society.
B I [do not] support everyone’s right to share reasonable positions within a free society, with[out] the intent of the betterment of society.


Making the assumption that these are your positions.

A What might happen if you did?

B Some questions:

Who determines what an agreed 'betterment of society' is?
By what standard?
By what right?

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Re: Video surfaces of Milo Yiannopoulos defending pedophilia

Postby liminalOyster » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:41 am

Badly formatted - not my opinions *in the least* - just an attempt at extrapolating implications from the line semper occultus called out.
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Re: Video surfaces of Milo Yiannopoulos defending pedophilia

Postby Project Willow » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:17 pm

jakell » 28 Feb 2017 03:08 wrote:
It is this point where those who are mildly critical of the Left started to see and describe real problems (Sargon would be a good example).

I flagged it up on here when transgender issues started to be pushed as if they had (and had always had) equal significance to the other points regarding race, class and gender etc, whereas in fact they were pretty much a very recent (and exotic) arrival.
Some see this (and other subsequent minutiae) as enthusiastic mistakes, but there is a more sinister possibility.. that the pushing of these burgeoning additions and amendments to traditional Leftist activitities is an experiment, a 'weather balloon' to see what can be got away with. Of course this would be performed by actors outside of traditional political alignments.


A truly conspiratorial view, yes. My radfem sisters would point out that the trans project has been so successful because it is led and funded by rich, white, autogynophilic men. Although its cultural requirements are radical seeming on the surface, the movement is conservative at its core, and part of the continuing backlash against the Second Wave, in intent and broader consequence. Its regressive byproducts are the linguistic and formal erasure of women as a sex class, the reification of patriarchal sex roles, the banning of women from the public sphere, and the destruction of Title IX, to name a few.

What Peterson might argue is that left social movements are being led on the ground by women, due to their tendency towards agreeableness, one of the big five personality traits. He posits we may be seeing protective mother behavior writ large in the political sphere, the separation of groups of people into kin and not kin. Ideological dissenters are labelled not kin and treated as dangerous predators. In other words, those who hold different views about gender identity are "othered" and targeted for social censure at best, and violence at worst, the same way a momma bear would tear up a human who came between her an her cubs. Just over the past few weeks, gangs of queer and trans advocates in a city near me organized to physically intimidate a lesbian dissenter, who was forced to call police as they stalked her around town. I never understood gang violence to be a liberal value.

These are all interesting observations. I've no doubt there are many more contributing to the current milieu yet to be delineated and fleshed out.
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Re: Video surfaces of Milo Yiannopoulos defending pedophilia

Postby American Dream » Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:04 am

White Men And Their Words

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Milo rose to fame as an internet troll, leading unhesitant derision on people like Ghostbusters star Leslie Jones. The digital stalking was almost always tinged with racism, misogyny, and virulent Islamophobia and transphobia, where Milo developed his own style where he would rapid-fire misrepresented statistics to argue for the pathetic inferiority of almost everyone in his wake. At Breitbart, Milo may have found his home as the publication created by Tea Party star Andrew Breitbart pushed further into the direction of nativism, all under the heading of Steve Bannon.

Milo may have even outgrown his role at Breitbart as he hit the college circuit, creating a growing cult of young white men radicalized through social ineptitudes and the offensiveness-as-praxis of message boards. He flirted with the hardline white nationalism of the Alt Right, but only until it became too toxic and he was able to scrape a layer of post-conservative “cool” off the top to increase his star. He had become what he wanted: a loved/hated icon of the loud, privileged white male.

While Milo has been lamented as less than a traditional conservative, an estimation he would likely agree with, his ideas are not that far outside the mainstream for the GOP. He persists that homosexuality is a choice, that Islam is inherently dangerous to the West, that transgender people are mentally ill, that fat people are sick, and that if Black Lives Matters cared about black lives they would intercede on “black crime.” While he may say this with a certain gusto designed to rile up his opposition, it is simply the blunt edge of the slightly more nuanced script of CPAC and its Heartland base. What Milo has achieved is to make the far right cool again, and allow the revolutionary vision of the Alt Right an access to a new generation of college-aged white men.


More at: https://godsandradicals.org/2017/03/09/ ... eir-words/
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Re: Video surfaces of Milo Yiannopoulos defending pedophilia

Postby Iamwhomiam » Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:37 pm

Interesting comments, jakell and Willow. I've also thought about it being a trial balloon for a dark social experiment to bring about darker reactions from the public.
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Re: Video surfaces of Milo Yiannopoulos defending pedophilia

Postby tapitsbo » Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:41 pm

Jordan Peterson might have some interesting things to say but the company he keeps (folks like Ezra Levant and Conrad Black) are surely of interest to people here...

Rhetoricians like Peterson would have us galloping away on crusades against barbaric totalitarians in the name of sanity and reason

Meanwhile it seems obvious to me that agendas like the sleazy Yiannopoulos stuff OR the top-down trans ideology can be disavowed without the suspicious "rally around the flag of freedom!" stuff that people like Peterson sneak in...

That's just my opinion of course - I'm not trying to throw the baby out with the bathwater and I'm sure Peterson has some interesting stuff to say, I'm just nursing a healthy suspicion of his co-ordinated propagation in the media...
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Re: Video surfaces of Milo Yiannopoulos defending pedophilia

Postby American Dream » Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:58 pm

Lance Wallnau Claims Milo Yiannopoulos ‘In The Name Of Jesus For The Kingdom Of God’

By Kyle Mantyla | March 15, 2017 11:16 am

Last week, right-wing preacher Lance Wallnau appeared on the Charisma podcast with Steve Strang, where he claimed Alt-Right troll Milo Yiannopoulos for Jesus Christ and prophesied that he will one day be leading revivals on college campuses.

Wallnau said that he began listening to Yiannopoulos in the wake of the controversy regarding his comments condoning pederasty and found him to be a brave truth-teller who “is exposing the tyranny and fascist spirit behind the progressive left.” Yiannopoulos is like “a prophetic fencer just scoring point after point,” Wallnau said, which is why the left is out to destroy him.

But the left will not destroy him, Wallnau predicted, because Yiannopoulos is going to undergo a radical religious conversion and lead an army of millennial prophets who will take on the left.

“I’m claiming Milo in the name of Jesus for the Kingdom of God,” Wallnau declared. “Just like [Donald] Trump was an unlikely candidate for us as a deliverer in the presidency … God hid himself in Trump, I think God is hiding himself in Milo and I’m calling him out in Jesus’ name to salvation.”

“Red rover, red rover, call Milo over,” he continued. “The church doesn’t want people like him, but God wants him in the church. Father, we call for Milo in Jesus’ name. We call, Lord, that You will break every cycle of destruction, every spirit that is assigned to him to destroy, distort, to wound and to lock him up. We pray for shafts of light to come from heaven into his heart, divine encounters with the Gospel in unique and unusual ways, we pray for Jesus to be made manifest in his dreams.”

Wallnau said that Yiannopoulos will be part of an “army of millennial young prophets who will expose the enemy” and prophesied that “Milo is going to be doing campus revivals in the future.”
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Re: Video surfaces of Milo Yiannopoulos defending pedophilia

Postby Iamwhomiam » Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:14 pm

^^^ Right after he's been born again as a heterosexual male.
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Re: Video surfaces of Milo Yiannopoulos defending pedophilia

Postby American Dream » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:43 am

Troll Me A River: Alt-Lite Event Backed by Billionaires Implodes


The original list of speakers included everyone from Steve Bannon of Breitbart, #PizzaGate conspiracy theorist Mike Cernovich of InfoWars, a fired Google employee James Damore who penned a memo against diversity in the workplace, racist anti-immigrant talking head Ann Coulter with known ties to white nationalist groups like V-DARE, to even Charles Murray, a white nationalist who argued in The Bell Curve that African-Americans have lower IQs and are more prone to crime than whites.

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But quickly many of these speakers cancelled or dropped out and the Berkeley Patriot, a front group for the Berkeley College Republicans, along with Milo Inc., failed to get their paper work done on time, leading them to lose access to a variety of buildings on campus. Even Alt-Lite celebrities like Lucian Wintrich, long tied to Milo, withdrew from the event, as big names like Ann Coulter and Bannon were not far behind.



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Re: Video surfaces of Milo Yiannopoulos defending pedophilia

Postby Jerky » Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:38 pm

liminalOyster » 23 Feb 2017 16:58 wrote:Sarah Nyberg, a trans activist of sorts who Milo outed for: having called herself a pedophile, having shared explicit photos of her 8 yo niece and other children, etc. had this to say yesterday:
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FWIW, Nyberg is followed by Shaun King on Twitter.

I really can't even.


LiminalOyster, I see that you've twice referred to the anti-GamerGate online activist Sarah Nyberg in this thread, both times implying that whatever she did was so inexcusably awful, that Milo's transgressions pale in comparison. And here above, you claim she "shared explicit photos" of her 8 yo niece and other children".

I suspect you may have gotten most of your information about Nyberg from a notoriously dishonest and ethically nihilistic cohort: the 4Chan/GamerGate troll brigades. These are the type of people who fill the EncyclopediaDramatica's pages with "hilarious" character assassinations and taboo-shredding "humor" in the service of a reactionary Free Speech Absolutism.

As I wrote in my own reaction to Milo's disastrous week back when it happened:

In defending himself and donning the mantle of victimhood, Milo has the temerity to bring up, as a point in his favor, the relentless mass harassment campaign he helped to wage against prominent GamerGate critic Sarah Nyberg. First he mis-genders Nyberg, who is trans, before going on to list her as one of the three “pedophiles” he's “outed” in his “journalistic” career.

I urge everyone--including those of you who think you know the full story behind all this--to read Nyberg’s account of what Milo and his troll army put her through, just because she voiced an opinion that ran counter to theirs, putting a torch to the delusion that the alt.right has anything whatsoever to do with "free speech". As you read Nyberg's account, keep in mind that, in his "apology", Milo was using this as an example of the good that he's done in the world.

The irony here is that even her fiercest critics tacitly acknowledge Nyberg’s youth was steeped in real trauma, even if only because they use the details of that trauma to viciously troll, humiliate, and harass her. And yet, despite this, every indication points to her worst transgressions being confined to an online fantasy world of role play. Milo's self-confessed antics--which include attending parties where underage “twinks” serviced sugar daddies while he looked on, presumably laughing and snorting fat rails of cocaine all the while--are an order of magnitude worse.


Furthermore, I see that there are still some people on this board who seem to think Milo's bad week was a result of attacks by "the LEFT". Indeed, it was one of the most entertaining sideshows on display, watching how this RIGHT WING super-troll and his FAR RIGHT fan-base reacted in real time to his being exposed by CONSERVATIVE activists, leading to his being dis-invited from a RIGHT-WING convention and fired from his job at an ALT.RIGHT website.

This image sums it up quite succinctly:

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Yes! That's right! They blamed it all on that viscerally despised boogeyman, those loony left socialist MSM Democrat beta SJW cuck LIBERALS! That so many people at this once great board seem to be leaning in the same direction is nothing short of tragic, IMO.

But never mind me. You guys just keep on keeping on. Soon, you'll be such incredibly rugged individuals, Trump will begin making sense to you. And then you really will have learned to love Big Brother.

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Re: Video surfaces of Milo Yiannopoulos defending pedophilia

Postby liminalOyster » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:50 pm

Hi Jerky. That was ages ago but yes I am aware of terrible people who went after Nyberg in terrible ways. I'm also not a Trump supporter or apologist if that was implied by the end of your comments though I could easily be misreading or taking too personally. My point in any comparison between Milo and Nyberg was just to note that same old cog dis which feels so familiar lately wherein moral judgment is increasingly unevenly applied to allies and enemies.

It's a moot point these days, anyways; predictably so I guess, Milo chose to double down on the campy evil so any hopes I may have had for a redemptive return to consensus empathic reality were dashed long ago. This video pretty much convinced me he's a sociopath.
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Re: Video surfaces of Milo Yiannopoulos defending pedophilia

Postby Jerky » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:38 pm

No particularly personal slight was intended by me at the end, there. That was more an expression of general frustration in the face of so many people swallowing and adopting alt-right bad faith propaganda memes and seemingly believing that they came to those beliefs of their own accord, something which has been an issue with the conservative movement forever, it seems to me... people spewing, say, FOX News or Rush Limbaugh or InfoWars talking points word for word and calling those who disagree with them "sheeple"... the ripest irony.

Anyway, thanks for the reply. Now I have to watch another Milo video. Yuck.

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liminalOyster » 25 Sep 2017 21:50 wrote:Hi Jerky. That was ages ago but yes I am aware of terrible people who went after Nyberg in terrible ways. I'm also not a Trump supporter or apologist if that was implied by the end of your comments though I could easily be misreading or taking too personally. My point in any comparison between Milo and Nyberg was just to note that same old cog dis which feels so familiar lately wherein moral judgment is increasingly unevenly applied to allies and enemies.

It's a moot point these days, anyways; predictably so I guess, Milo chose to double down on the campy evil so any hopes I may have had for a redemptive return to consensus empathic reality were dashed long ago. This video pretty much convinced me he's a sociopath.
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