Is Russia Behind a Secession Effort in California?

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Postby Iamwhomiam » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:44 pm

Sure, they cast their shadows whenever and wherever they can, no question about it. I can't help it if it reminded me of a movie I long ago watched. We were at the beginning of the Domino Theory back then, not long after the Cuban missile crisis. Same shit, just another day, and fitting to today's style of cold war.
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Re: Is Russia Behind a Secession Effort in California?

Postby brekin » Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:26 pm

Iamwhomiam » Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:44 pm wrote:Sure, they cast their shadows whenever and wherever they can, no question about it. I can't help it if it reminded me of a movie I long ago watched. We were at the beginning of the Domino Theory back then, not long after the Cuban missile crisis. Same shit, just another day, and fitting to today's style of cold war.


Today's "style of cold war" is where the President of the US and his staff is being accused of (and investigated for) collaborating, excusing, and championing the Russian power structure and he screams at his critics (the press) "McCarthyism!"?
Uh, that's definitely not how it went down the first time and this not a variant of style but a complete ideological reversal. Brand new shit for a brand new day.

Also, Reagan told Russia "to tear down that wall!", whereas Trump tells the world, "I'm going to build that wall!". These aren't tweaks, alterations and retreads, of what has been politically fashionable before but new nefarious designs made from whole clothe.
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Re: Is Russia Behind a Secession Effort in California?

Postby JackRiddler » Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:43 pm

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Both of the top-level party sides are employing McCarthyite tactics, kind of self-evidently. Obama was resisting the Clintonist/neocon push to arm the fucking Ukraine, and he did not, true? Yet the Russia-focused Democrats are now claiming the removal from the Republican platform of a plank calling for arms to the Ukraine is some kind of evidence that Trump is a Russian agent.

The McCarthyite tactics are also deployed by the established corporate media and Clintonists against anyone who suggests that maybe Trump's apparent desire for relatively friendlier relations with nuclear Russia is not the worst thing about him. WaPo fronted that positively rabid "PropOrNot" anonymous initiative to paint the likes of Truthdig as Russian agents. The New Yorker just wrote that the still completely unsubstantiated tales of "Russian election hacking" (endorsed by 17 agencies, including the Coast Guard!) are the biggest "attack" on the U.S. since 9/11. Fucking insane. Don't be blind to this. You don't have to shack up with McCain and GW Bush to fight against Trump!

It's obvious that Trump has always run a finance structure that is more criminal than most, and Russian oligarchs seem to be involved, but that does not yet make a Russian state plot. Even if it did, it still doesn't substantiate a Russian election fix. What's interesting about the ones supposedly most implicated in this plot (Carter, Manafort) is that they were forced out of the Trump campaign. The Sessions perjury allegation may qualify as that, but the idea that he didn't actually remember the meetings is far from incredible. How many ambassadors does a foreign relations committee member typically meet?

I'm more concerned that Trump and Sessions are spearheads of white nationalism and racism than that they may have colluded with Russia. Let the FBI investigate, sure. It's not like we have a say in this -- we should be organizing for resistance and expecting the inevitable collusion of Democratic leaders with this fucked-up proto-fascism soon enough, if the "Russia" maneuver fails (and I think so far it's served to strengthen Trump with his base).

Trump of course deploys non-stop McCarthyite tactics and worse. Everyone is categorized either as follower, yes-man or loyalist = real patriotic American, or as enemy, traitor, liar, un-American, "Nazi Germany," "fake news," etc. It's precisely because he is so fucking dangerous and worse than the Democrats that I favor ways of resistance and fighting that might actually work, ways that involve organizing and mass movements.

The Democrats had their fucking chance to deploy a few hundred lawyers during the Green-led recount, like the Republicans did to overwhelm it. That targeted the real election fixing: voter suppression, uncounted votes, etc. Didn't interest them. They'd rather not stir up too much thought about the actual rigging of the U.S. election system, a game in which they also play. They would rather play this game of seeking a Russian threat. They have stuck to the preposterous assertion that the presence of Podesta's e-mails online swung Michigan etc., and the evidence-free assertion that the Russian state as ordered by Putin stole the Podesta/DNC e-mails and fed them to Wikileaks.

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Re: Is Russia Behind a Secession Effort in California?

Postby brekin » Mon Mar 06, 2017 6:31 pm

JackRiddler » Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:43 pm wrote:.

Both of the top-level party sides are employing McCarthyite tactics, kind of self-evidently. Obama was resisting the Clintonist/neocon push to arm the fucking Ukraine, and he did not, true? Yet the Russia-focused Democrats are now claiming the removal from the Republican platform of a plank calling for arms to the Ukraine is some kind of evidence that Trump is a Russian agent.

The McCarthyite tactics are also deployed by the established corporate media and Clintonists against anyone who suggests that maybe Trump's apparent desire for relatively friendlier relations with nuclear Russia is not the worst thing about him. WaPo fronted that positively rabid "PropOrNot" anonymous initiative to paint the likes of Truthdig as Russian agents. The New Yorker just wrote that the still completely unsubstantiated tales of "Russian election hacking" (endorsed by 17 agencies, including the Coast Guard!) are the biggest "attack" on the U.S. since 9/11. Fucking insane. Don't be blind to this. You don't have to shack up with McCain and GW Bush to fight against Trump!

It's obvious that Trump has always run a finance structure that is more criminal than most, and Russian oligarchs seem to be involved, but that does not yet make a Russian state plot. Even if it did, it still doesn't substantiate a Russian election fix. What's interesting about the ones supposedly most implicated in this plot (Carter, Manafort) is that they were forced out of the Trump campaign. The Sessions perjury allegation may qualify as that, but the idea that he didn't actually remember the meetings is far from incredible. How many ambassadors does a foreign relations committee member typically meet?

I'm more concerned that Trump and Sessions are spearheads of white nationalism and racism than that they may have colluded with Russia. Let the FBI investigate, sure. It's not like we have a say in this -- we should be organizing for resistance and expecting the inevitable collusion of Democratic leaders with this fucked-up proto-fascism soon enough, if the "Russia" maneuver fails (and I think so far it's served to strengthen Trump with his base).

Trump of course deploys non-stop McCarthyite tactics and worse. Everyone is categorized either as follower, yes-man or loyalist = real patriotic American, or as enemy, traitor, liar, un-American, "Nazi Germany," "fake news," etc. It's precisely because he is so fucking dangerous and worse than the Democrats that I favor ways of resistance and fighting that might actually work, ways that involve organizing and mass movements.

The Democrats had their fucking chance to deploy a few hundred lawyers during the Green-led recount, like the Republicans did to overwhelm it. That targeted the real election fixing: voter suppression, uncounted votes, etc. Didn't interest them. They'd rather not stir up too much thought about the actual rigging of the U.S. election system, a game in which they also play. They would rather play this game of seeking a Russian threat. They have stuck to the preposterous assertion that the presence of Podesta's e-mails online swung Michigan etc., and the evidence-free assertion that the Russian state as ordered by Putin stole the Podesta/DNC e-mails and fed them to Wikileaks.
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Ya. But I think its highly possible that the Dem elite "know/have" something much more shady/treasonous about Trump and Russia, but can't reveal it without showing they've acquired it through shady means. And Trump knows they know/have it and that is why he is continually bringing up the matter obliquely and going on the offensive to poison the well preemptively. The whole "you know what your enemy fears the most by what he continually accuses his rivals of". What other upset candidate would be so obsessed with harping about stolen votes, discrediting the press and phone tapping? I get the need to constant antagonism, but there are much more productive and forward looking malicious lies and conspiracy theories that could be seeding. A lot of it seems like there is "unfinished business" from the campaign/election that is being fought over with tongs and "can not be named". Once/if named, Trump can say, "Can you believe what the lying enemy of the people McCarthy press are saying now with their fake news? And how did they find this out? From the the criminal water gate Obama administration spying on me?"
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Re: Is Russia Behind a Secession Effort in California?

Postby JackRiddler » Mon Mar 06, 2017 6:54 pm

brekin » Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:31 pm wrote:Ya. But I think its highly possible that the Dem elite "know/have" something much more shady/treasonous about Trump and Russia, but can't reveal it without showing they've acquired it through shady means. And Trump knows they know/have it and that is why he is continually bringing up the matter obliquely and going on the offensive to poison the well preemptively. The whole "you know what your enemy fears the most by what he continually accuses his rivals of". What other upset candidate would be so obsessed with harping about stolen votes, discrediting the press and phone tapping? I get the need to constant antagonism, but there are much more productive and forward looking malicious lies and conspiracy theories that could be seeding. A lot of it seems like there is "unfinished business" from the campaign/election that is being fought over with tongs and "can not be named". Once/if named, Trump can say, "Can you believe what the lying enemy of the people McCarthy press are saying now with their fake news? And how did they find this out? From the the criminal water gate Obama administration spying on me?"


It's possible. It's also possible that this is a move plotted out with Bannon or the like. But I don't buy it because it's also possible that Trump is exactly the unstable, sociopathic, tyrannical, predatory, humanity-blind, forgetful, overchallenged, insatiable, moment-to-moment, frantic uber-asshole he appears to be. This is not just a personal critique, it expresses itself in his improvisational actions and politics constantly. There is strategy in it, sure, but the strategy is always to look to his supporters only, whom he conceives not as voters but as viewers, as in a TV audience. So far, the feedback loop has served to reinforce this publicly compulsive behavior-as-strategy, since it works with his audience and won him the prizes, thanks to a convergence of many factors. The counter-evidence to your claim of broad strategic cunning and carefully planned well-poisoning to counter a possible exposure of treason (which again, is possible) is that soon after his message about "Obama" tapping his phones (based on a Breitbart story he had just read, apparently), he tweeted again about Schwarzenegger fucking up on The Apprentice. A matter he also brought up as his main theme in the speech to the Christofanatics, sorry, the Judeo-Christofanatics at the Prayer Breakfast, which is fucking insane and the opposite of cunning. These two concerns, these two grudges against Obama and Schwarzenegger, seem to be similarly serious to him. This is actually not that unusual -- people often put personal grudges on a level of emotional importance equal to that of their grand strategic thinking. What's unusual is that he announces his feelings immediately in public. Sometimes he thinks out his guile-moves out loud, talks about how he should have told one lie instead of another. (Shit, I forgot this example, it was very revealing -- do you recall?)

It sucks that the psychogram of this dipshit is a constant theme, but that's the situation we are in. Great Man history, you know? Leader politics!

tl;dr, after many years of having to observe this particular beast I think it likely Trump is not being strategic (except by instinct, most of the time, and it works for him), that he's very WYSIWYG and in the moment, that he came up with or read/saw the idea of "Obama ordered my phones tapped" on his own, that he tweeted it spontaneously when he felt the need, that he consulted with no one before hand and had no plan other than that whatever he says always goes, and that he believes most of the shit he says in the moment that he says it.

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Re: Is Russia Behind a Secession Effort in California?

Postby SonicG » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:57 pm

These last three posts nail a lot of the problems and intricacies that are vital to seeing the bigger picture of what is actually happening...if that is possible, since we are merely pawns in the matrix managed by some goofy trans-dimensional elves that Terence Mckenna unleashed...

One thing is sure though, Trump will have to pull back on thawing relations with Russia and it will be very interesting to see what repercussions there are from that. It is indisputable that the sudden deaths of eight persons related to the whole shebang show that Russia is taking this very seriously. Even as Nordic admits, Putin ain't perfect! But, the Syria issue aside, sanctions are a form of war. Tanking a nation's currency is full-on economic warfare - that has to be admitted. The Russian economy is heavily tied to oil and they do have their own, limited, imperial interests in that regard.
So, what will be the fallout from a failure to lift sanctions? Will Russia release whatever intel it has on Trump or are there "back-channel" discussions going on with guarantees if Putin can wait out the storm? Of course, the bigger worry is the occurrence of a major crisis, manufactured or not, to really test the whole situation and implement the permanent shock doctrine the Heritage Foundation trolls are salivating for....
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Re: Is Russia Behind a Secession Effort in California?

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:33 pm

MONDAY, APR 17, 2017 09:05 PM CDT
CalExit in trouble: Leader of California secession movement resigns, applies for Russian citizenship

Yes California president Louis Marinelli plans to withdraw the initiative to get CalExit on the 2018 ballot
MATTHEW SHEFFIELD

The long-shot odds of California becoming its own country worsened on Monday as the leader of the most prominent organization backing secession has formally resigned.

In a statement to supporters, Yes California president Louis Marinelli said that he plans to withdraw the initiative he has been trying to get onto ballots for the 2018 election. Instead, will apply to become a citizen of Russia, a country in which he has previously lived and one that has provided significant financial support to the “CalExit” movement.

“As I have stated in the past, I do not wish to live under the American flag. I do not wish to live under the American political system or within the American economic system. Regardless, I had long planned to eventually return to occupied California and struggle for her independence from the United States so we could build the kind of country that reflects our progressive values. However, while my frustration, disappointment and disillusionment with the United States remains, these feelings now point me in a different direction. I have found in Russia a new happiness, a life without the albatross of frustration and resentment towards ones’ homeland, and a future detached from the partisan divisions and animosity that has thus far engulfed my entire adult life.

Consequently, if the people of Russia would be so kind as to welcome me here on a permanent basis, I intend to make Russia my new home.”

Marinelli also blamed “anti-Russian” hysteria for hampering his organization’s ability to get support:

“Someday, after you’ve read this email and after the false allegations about me vanish, and after this period of anti-Russian hysteria subsides, may it be said of this campaign that we spoke the truth, may it be said of this campaign that we fought the good fight, and may it be said of this campaign that we set in motion a series of events that led California to independence from the United States.”
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Re: Is Russia Behind a Secession Effort in California?

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:55 pm

By the time Facebook took the page down recently, it had a quarter of a million followers.



How the Russians pretended to be Texans — and Texans believed them

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Casey Michel is a journalist based in New York.

In early 2016, while researching some of the most popular U.S. secession groups online, I stumbled across one of the Russian-controlled Facebook accounts that were then pulling in Americans by the thousands.

At the time, I was writing on Russia’s relationship with American secessionists from Texas, Hawaii and Puerto Rico. These were people who had hitched flights to Moscow to swap tactics, to offer advice and to find support. They had found succor in the shadow of the Kremlin.

That was how I eventually found my way to the “Heart of Texas” Facebook page (and its @itstimetosecede Twitter feed as well). Heart of Texas soon grew into the most popular Texas secession page on Facebook — one that, at one point in 2016, boasted more followers than the official Texas Democrat and Republican Facebook pages combined. By the time Facebook took the page down recently, it had a quarter of a million followers.

The page started slowly — just a few posts per week. Unlike other secession sites I’d come across, this one never carried any contact information, never identified any of the individuals behind the curtain. Even as it grew, there was nothing to locate it in Texas — or anywhere else, for that matter. It was hard to escape the suspicion that there might be Russian involvement here as well.

There were other oddities about the site. Its organizers had a strangely one-dimensional idea of its subject. They seemed to think, for example, that Texans drank Dr. Pepper at all hours: while driving their giant trucks, while flying their Confederate battle flags, while griping about Yankees and liberals and vegetarians.

But Heart of Texas, sadly, was no joke. At one point the page’s organizers even managed to stir up its followers into staging an armed, anti-Islamic protest in Houston. As gradually became clear, this was part of a broader strategy. The sponsors of the page were keen to exacerbate America’s own internal divisions. At certain moments they lent support to Black Lives Matter, while in others they would play to the latent (or obvious) racism of Donald Trump’s base.

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By the summer of 2016, other themes began to emerge. Posts began to follow a perceptibly hard-right course, stressing Texas’s status as a “Christian state,” or touting the Second Amendment as a “symbol of freedom … so we would forever be free from any tyranny.” Some of the page’s contributors talked about the need to “keep Texas Texan,” whatever that meant. There was also a generous dollop of conspiracy theory. There were posts about the allegedly unnatural death of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia and the supposed federal invasion orders behind the Jade Helm military exercise. Fake Founding Father quotes mingled with anti-Muslim screeds and paeans to Sam Houston. And the number of followers steadily crept into the hundreds of thousands.

Though the site’s authors understood their audience well, there was something off about their writing. The page’s “About” section proclaimed that “Texas’s the land protected by Lord [sic].” Grammatical and spelling glitches were everywhere: “In Love With Texas Shape,” “State Fair of Texas – Has You Already Visited?,” “Always Be Ready for a Texas Size,” “No Hypoclintos in the God Blessed Texas.” (Or take this caption for a photo of country music star George Strait: “Life is not breaths you take, but the moments that take your breth [sic] away.”) Yet the typos never seemed to raise any suspicions in readers’ minds.

Even the page’s calls for an early November protest across the state – part pro-secession, part anti-Clinton — were garbled. One post declared that “we are free citizens of Texas and we’ve had enough of this cheap show on the screen.” The site called on those who showed up to “make photos.”

Heart of Texas chugged on after the election, bringing in tens of thousands of new followers in 2017 who were unbothered by its mangled English, its rank nativism and its calls to break up the United States.

And then, in August, it was gone. Just like that, the most popular Texas secession page on Facebook was revealed to be a Russian front, operated by the notorious Internet Research Agency, with Facebook removing all of the posts from public view. (It’s worth noting that another Instagram account started posting Heart of Texas material as soon as the original Facebook page was taken down.)

Despite its claims of transparency, Facebook has effectively prevented the public from examining these posts and these pages. So far Heart of Texas remains the only example of a Russian account that I and other researchers managed to study in detail before Facebook pulled the rug out from underneath it.

We know that the Russians behind these sites played all of their readers, and especially those who showed up at its protests in places like Twin Falls and Fort Myers and Houston, for fools. Considering that the number of their combined followers ranged into the millions — with some estimates placing total views potentially in the billions — they’re probably right.

The creators of Heart of Texas not only targeted the sociopolitical tensions within the United States. They also exploited our gullibility, which turned out to be far greater than I could have ever imagined. And by assisting them in this massive lie, Facebook has enabled one of the greatest frauds in recent American history.
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Re: Is Russia Behind a Secession Effort in California?

Postby American Dream » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:15 pm

Fox News and Russian state media are promoting a conspiracy theorist's California secessionist ploy

"New California" secessionists are led by a Sandy Hook and Agenda 21 conspiracy theorist

Blog ››› January 17, 2018 5:41 PM EST ››› BOBBY LEWIS

Fox News is promoting what it calls a bid by “conservatives in California so fed up with liberals running their state” to “break away” from the state and form a “New California.” What Fox didn’t mention is that the secessionist ploy is being led by a conspiracy theorist.

“New California” is just the latest iteration of long-running, minor secessionist movements in California that previously materialized in 2016 as the #Calexit hashtag and “Yes California” electoral campaign, but the small group leading the charge is getting some media help from interesting places. A January 17 segment of Fox & Friends discussed the current campaign and a story about it was featured on the front page of FoxNews.com the same day. Far-right troll Jack Posobiec and Russian state media are also pushing the campaign on Twitter.

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The January 17 segment of Fox & Friends briefly featured comments by Robert Paul Preston, whom the show credited as the “founder” of “New California.” On its website, Fox News identified Preston and his group as “California conservatives.” Both the article and the segment on Fox & Friends failed to note that Preston is a conspiracy theorist and Sandy Hook truther. Preston believes in “Agenda 21,” a conspiracy theory dating to when Glenn Beck hosted a show on Fox News. "Agenda 21" believers like Preston think that the United Nations is executing a “master plan” to “remove you from your land ... take away our Constitutional Rights and depopulate our planet.” Preston also believes the Sandy Hook massacre was a hoax.

Along with Fox News, Russia’s state-owned media company RT (formerly Russia Today) is also pushing the “New California” narrative with tweets and an article. Like Fox, the RT write-up also uncritically quotes Paul Preston in support of secession.


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Re: Is Russia Behind a Secession Effort in California?

Postby American Dream » Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:44 am

https://godsandradicals.org/2018/02/07/ ... -actually/


New California: Shithole in the Making (but not actually)

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“What’s new in California?” you might be asking yourself. I wouldn’t blame you for missing this story, it ranks right up there with hornless unicorns on the “shit no decent or halfway intelligent human should care about” list. Let me explain some.

Did you know that California is “ungovernable”? Did you know that the middle class is leaving the state in record numbers? Did you know that the state is on a road to hell and jail? No wait, that’s me as a teen. Anyway, an individual named Robert Paul Preston (RPP) is looking to separate out the “good” parts of California, from the rest of it, i.e. “the hippy liberal illegal immigrant loving pot smoking parts.” Supposedly, according to RPP’s white paper on the creation of a new state, the largest problems that come from the state “being ungovernable” are:

“a decline in essential basic services such as education, law enforcement, fire protection, transportation, housing, health care, taxation, voter rights, banking, state pension systems, prisons, state parks, water resource management, home ownership, infrastructure and many more.”1
Wow, that all sounds really bad, I had no idea my state was in such bad shape; because it isn’t.

Should I address the half-baked lies or the half baked pastry man telling them first? You know what? This is so awesome, because I don’t actually have to do any work to address the half-baked lies. They are a common collection of the Right’s constant liturgy of disapproval, and therefore, this work has already been done.

Thanks go out to Kevin Drum, writing for Mother Jones, for his article, “California Is Doing Fine, Thank You Very Much.” In the article Kevin Drum addresses a lot of what RPP is claiming in his white paper, so I’m going to steal/cite highlights from his work and then move on to the slightly more interesting train wreck that is RPP, shining example of the Right in California. You might, if you have the time, also read California is Working: The Effects of California’s Public Policy on Jobs and the Economy Since 2011 written by Ian Perry and published by the UC Berkeley Labor Center. (But watch out! He worked on the Affordable Care Act, he might be one of those Nazi Commie Muslims!)

Now before I start going over the all the work someone else did for me, I just really need to point out that the white paper for New California, claims both that there is a general decline in basic services, but also, in the same paragraph, claims that California is #23 in the nation based on an aggregate score measuring economy, infrastructure, education, crime and all that crap. So it is an ungovernable nation, with a troubling decline in basic services (necessitating a completely new state to be made), that is better than more than half of U.S. states in those areas?

Yes, according to RPP, that is indeed the case; this is a level of cognitive dissonance so common for his everyday consciousness that he literally put that on paper unironically. Please keep this in mind as we continue forward.

“There’s a whole cottage industry on the right dedicated to the proposition that California is a hellhole. Why? Because California is the most liberal state in the nation, and the existence of a high-tax, high-service state that nonetheless has a great economy is an affront to their principles.”2


And that’s pretty much it. Kevin Drum’s article, which I implore you to read, Californian or not, is a debunking of the basic myths propagated by the Right. Within that context of propaganda vs. data, both matters of public record, is where RPP comes in.

He’s a talk show host that has a radio show. That show is about the U.N.’s secret agenda, Agenda 23, or something like that, and that the agenda is to destroy Capitalism and redistribute wealth and by the gods, bodhisattvas, and buddhas, why am I writing about this? Because it is literally from his “About” page.

So the U.N. is actually controlled by, …Islamic Communist Nazis? Hey! Pay attention! This is, important news. So the Islamic Nazi Communists are planning, or have been since 1992, to use environmentalism to steal your rights, redistribute wealth, and destroy Capitalism.

And I got to tell you, he fuckin’ nailed us. He’s got us cold. He (like us) understands that Capitalism and the environment can not, and have not, coexisted. The unchecked rapine of Capitalism has despoiled the Earth and is slowly making it a desert. He (unlike us) champions the continued rapine of the environment for the sake of American values. Which I have to assume, because Capitalism is the all important thing here apparently, American values are Capitalism.

He (also like us) is hip to the reality that there is no such thing as American values outside of the values of Capitalism. The two map to each other, one to one. That puts the environmentalist at square odds with the Capitalist. Or it should. I guess. Who knows what “environmentalists” get up to. I assumed doing the same things as people do. I never realized that caring about having clean air and plants and animals and shit like that made you a Nazi, or a Muslim, or a Communist.

All Communist Muslim Nazis aside, this is why I like my state so much. Stuff like this and the nice 80’s retro sunsets make the constant fire and drought worth it.

So anyway the goal is to redistribute wealth to the rest of the world and enslave Americans. So his greatest fear is that he’ll be made to answer for the crimes of his ancestors. I can empathize. When I found out my families DNA definitely filtered through Kentucky, and then later found out from my cousin that apparently all of us are descended from Daniel Boone, I did take pause for thought. But I do not believe in blood debts (yes I know, very brave of the white guy to take a stand on this), and instead call for the immediate dismantling of all remaining remnants of the dirty deed we call making America that continue the legacy of that string of crimes, and instead have a truly egalitarian society.

But this guys greatest fear is the modern day version of Dracula, in that there’s the “fear of reverse colonization.” I mean, yes, I write about corporations being vampires. But my fear is rich people eating the poor. His fear is the poor getting revenge. Totally different.

Also there is the fear of depopulation, to the tune I imagine of the depopulation of the Americas by diseases brought by Europeans. And actually, the humans that were here first were doing plenty with it. It just looked empty because they had suffered a biological apocalypse. And all that before Europeans actually even got started. So the U.N. is also trying to depopulate the Earth. I guess, because that’s easier, to force everyone to be, an, um, …Communist Nazi Muslim. Nailed it. Three by three, the spells complete.

No, for him it’s all about property rights, apparently. He mentions it on his “about” page. The whole thing seems like a diatribe against something personal that happened to him. Like his HOA voted on something they saw in a U.N. info pamphlet and that set him off on his mission to save the nation and the great state of California. “Why?” you might ask. Because he’s one of the idiots that lives in it–that’s why. But seriously I bet it’s property rights. I mean don’t get me wrong, I hate work, and that set me off on the adventure I call life. So I can’t fault him for being passionate. An asshole and an idiot, yes, but never the passion.

So the real story here is that the Right, or as I know them, the open and unashamed Capitalists, has been on a slander and libel campaign against the state for decades. Presumably because its existence proves them wrong. That the world doesn’t make any sense, that we’re all just making this up as we go along, and the best thing we can do for each other is help each other.

They hate it when that happens. They want you to believe that the world makes sense, that no one made anything up, and that the only thing left to do is step on one another. I assume to keep yourself out of the grave one minute longer. That’s how it feels to me, and I’m the same white guy in California that doesn’t believe in blood debts. But the Goddess Eris decreed that order and disorder, creation and destruction, are the watch towers of the universe. To arise in the universe is to be subject to these furies. But not the Erinyes and Demeter, another four furies.

So you die. And mindstate capture and reimbodiment is still only found in my favorite space opera series, so I die too. Everyone dies! So the moral question is, am I going to step on people, or hold them up (sometimes by leaning on them; are you holding me up, or am I holding you up?). Most people, because the trait that led to human ascendancy and the beginning of the Holocene epoch is our pro-social behavior, try to hold each other up.

The Capitalist claims to hold people up by serving them with the highest efficiency. An unsophisticated machine answer from an unsophisticated machine consciousness.

RPP, this is the man spearheading the “movement.” This month, anyway. He isn’t the first to suggest this, or something like this. I’m interested to see how far he gets with this. I guess it all hinges in how many of his listeners think it’s a great idea to form cells, I mean, county committees. It really hinges on whether or not the Archons are just going to be cool with some dude fucking with their cash cow. The rule in business is, if it is generating revenue, don’t fuck with it. That isn’t the official rule, modern businesses stress innovation and LEAN thinking. But it is don’t fuck with it.

If he’s lucky, this will come to nothing. Then Californians can get back to fighting the Nazis here.



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Re: Is Russia Behind a Secession Effort in California?

Postby American Dream » Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:42 am

Calexit: a fractured California, where militias and the DHS battle the resistance in Trump's future America

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First things first: this is not a wish-fulfillment fantasy about an ascendant California living in splendid isolation from the thick-fingered vulgarians of America. It is a story about an incredibly messy, violent "separation" sparked by all-too-plausible anti-immigrant policies enacted by a far-right demagogue President's Attorney General, in which California has splintered into many shifting and confusing pieces. It's not wish fulfillment: it's warning -- and a scarily imminent and salient warning at that.


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