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Donald Trumps Great Syria Deception

Postby fruhmenschen » Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:42 pm

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Re: Donald Trumps Great Syria Deception

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Media Goes Quiet as Russia Exposes US Lies at Security Council

Russia just called out the West for using the UN to promote regime change — but no one reported it

By Richard Brandt

Twitter was flooded with commentary about Nikki Haley’s call to arms against Russia during the Security Council meeting on Wednesday afternoon. But no one bothered to report what Russia had to say.

Russia’s deputy United Nations ambassador Vladimir Safronkov said that the West’s “obsession with regime change is what hinders this Security Council.”

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“… According to Russian airspace monitoring systems, yesterday between 11.30 and 12.30 local time the Syrian aviation carried out an airstrike on the eastern outskirts of Khan Sheikhun, targeting a major ammunition storage facility of terrorists and a cluster of military hardware. The territory of this storage facility housed workshops to produce projectiles stuffed with toxic agents,” Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said.

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“From this major arsenal, chemical-laden weapons were delivered by militants to Iraq. Their use by terrorists was confirmed on numerous occasions by international organizations and official authorities of the country,” he said.

The spokesman added that these projectiles were similar to those used by militants in Syria’s Aleppo, where their use was recorded by Russian military specialists.

“Video footage from social networks shows that those affected in Khan Sheikhun demonstrate the same symptoms of poisoning as the victims of the Aleppo attack had last fall,” he added.

More: http://tass.com/world/939417

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“… One might have thought that the evidence of one staged attack would have increased skepticism about the other incidents, but the U.N. investigators apparently understood what was good for their careers, so they endorsed a couple of other alleged cases despite their inability to conduct a field investigation. [See Consortiumnews.com’s “ UN Team Heard Claims of Staged Chemical Attacks .”]

Now, that dubious U.N. report is being leveraged into this new incident, one opportunistic finding used to justify another. But the pressing question now is: Have the American people come to understand enough about “psychological operations” and “strategic communications” that they will finally show the skepticism that no longer exists in the major U.S. news media?”

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/04/05/a ... -in-syria/

[Robert Parry]

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President Trump Has It Wrong on Syria – Assad Did NOT Use Chemical Weapons – Deep State Neo Cons Misleading the President…

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ISIS is Obama’s Legacy: Strip Him of His Nobel

By Scott Stockdale

April 03, 2017 “Information Clearing House”

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/46792.htm

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Reviving the ‘Chemical Weapons’ Lie: New US-UK Calls for Regime Change, Military Attack Against Syria

http://21stcenturywire.com/2017/04/04/r ... nst-syria/

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TRUMP ON COLLISION COURSE WITH PUTIN AFTER MOSCOW DENIES SYRIA BEHIND CHEMICAL ATTACK

For the first time since his election, president Trump is set for a direct collision course with Vladimir Putin after Russia said on Wednesday it stands by Syrian President Bashar al-Assad despite widespread popular outrage over a chemical weapons attack which the media was quick to pin on the Syrian president, in a carbon-copy of events from 2013 which nearly launched a US invasion of the middle-eastern nation , when a YouTube clip – subsequently shown to be a hoax – served as proof that Assad had used sarin gas on rebels in a Damascus neighborhood. SOURCE: ZERO HEDGE

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RON PAUL KNOWS THAT THE “CHEMICAL ATTACK” IN SYRIA IS CLEARLY A FALSE FLAG (VIDEO)

Did Assad sign his own death warrant with such an attack…or does some other entity benefit? SOURCE: THE DURAN

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THIS IS WHY CNN AND ALL MAINSTREAM MEDIA MUST APOLOGIZE FOR FAKE NEWS SYRIA CHEMICAL ATTACK

The alleged horrific gas attack in the Idlib Governorate of Syria has now been fully debunked as fake news. This has not stopped CNN and many (if not all) mainstream media outlets to push the “Assad gassed his own people” lie once again. SOURCE: THE DURAN

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April 5-6, 2017 — North Korea wasn’t first to pursue nuke weapons on the Korean peninsula

(in: WMR GENERAL ARCHIVES April 2017)

Apr 4, 2017

North Korea problem is too complicated for an ignorant bully like Trump.

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The Saker

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[Ed.: Aside from trying to analyze all the nuances, the players and questions of just exactly who is in command, the idea that the US would drop a nuclear weapon (unless it’s a very, very small one*) on North Korea is simply preposterous.

Didn’t we drop one of those* in China previously?

Perhaps it was not a nuke, or it wasn’t the US. Maybe they did it to themselves, no?

I could foresee a complex covert op against NORK involving a couple of teams of our best ninja-like operatives acting in concert with small, discrete military units for a rapid insertion and extraction (though those kinds of things are notorious for going badly), and I can see an even-more-likely covert cyber attack if our desk jockeys are competent enough to pull it off without identifying themselves (I don’t think they are), but I just can’t see that folks inside the upper circles of military-political strategy — no matter who in hell is really in charge — would go nuclear or risk a major counter-attack of any proportion.

Are they that stupid? Or cocky Or arrogant?]

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GUNFIRE BREAKS OUT AS VENEZUELA NATIONAL GUARD CLASH WITH ANTI-MADURO PROTESTERS

Venezuela security forces on Tuesday clashed with anti-government protesters seeking, in part, to remove justices from the Supreme Court accused of unconstitutionally favoring the ruling party, while supporting lawmakers locked in a bitter dispute with the administration of President Nicolas Maduro and the Supreme Court. SOURCE: ZERO HEDGE

US SENATE BILL TARGETS RT & SPUTNIK AS ‘PROPAGANDA’

US Senator Jeanne Shaheen (D-New Hampshire) claims RT and Sputnik are “designed to undermine our democracy” and even compared them to Nazi propaganda while promoting her bill, a reaction to alleged Russian hacking of the 2016 election. Shaheen took to the Senate floor on Tuesday to promote her bill, entitled “Foreign Agents Registration Modernization and Enforcement Act,” which she says would provide the Justice Department with “new and necessary authority to investigate potential violations of the Foreign Agents Registration Act by RT America.” SOURCE: RT

TRUMP ADMINISTRATION PLANS ECONOMIC AND MILITARY OFFENSIVE AGAINST AFRICA

Despite the relative secrecy, the general outlines of Trump’s Africa policy can nevertheless be deduced from his administration’s opening moves on the continent, when these are understood as the outgrowth of the crisis of American imperialism and the worldwide militarist offensive it has waged since the dissolution of the Soviet Union more than a quarter century ago. SOURCE: TRUE PUBLICA

RICHMOND FED PRESIDENT RESIGNS AFTER ADMITTING LEAKING FED POLICY DELIBERATIONS

Richmond Fed President Jeffrey Lacker has just admitted he leaked confidential Fed monetary policy information to Medley Global Advisers, a publisher of macroeconomic analysis for institutions such as hedge funds and asset managers. It is owned by The Financial Times. He has resigned effective immediately. He had planned on retiring in October. There is no immediate indication if Lacker will face criminal prosecution. The FBI has been probing the Fed’s 2012 leak to Medley since 2015. SOURCE: EPJ

CYBER FIRM BEHIND “RUSSIAN HACKING” CLAIMS HAS TIES TO SOROS-SUPPORTED THINK TANK

The cyber firm Crowdstrike has been one of the main proponents of allegations that Russia interfered in the 2016 American presidential elections using their cyber capabilities. The analysis performed by Crowdstrike was relied on almost exclusively by the Democratic National Committee (DNC) to establish their claims of “Russian hacking.” SOURCE: DISOBEDIENT MEDIA

FLORIDA’S MONEY LAUNDERING SUBURB SOURCE: USA TODAY

WSJ: SUSAN RICE WAS NOT ALONE IN “UNMASKING” TEAM TRUMP

As part of its daily wrap of the Susan Rice newsflow, which focused on her first media appearance since she was “outed” as the persona responsible for “unmasking” members of team Trump, the WSJ provides two new pieces of incremental information: i) in addition to Michael Flynn, at least one more member of the Trump transition team was “unmasked” in intelligence reports due to multiple foreign conversations that weren’t related to Russia; and ii) Rice wasn’t the administration official who instigated Mr. Flynn’s unmasking, confirming there is at least one more high-level official giving “unmasking” orders. SOURCE: ZERO HEDGE

THE REAL RUSSIAGATE: OBAMA’S STASI STATE

Covert surveillance of politicians on Obama’s Nixon-like “Enemies List” has been going on for many years, but is only now being unmasked as a result of the failure of Obama’s cover story–“We weren’t spying on political opponents; only on Russians to protect America.” The presstitute media has passed on the cover story authored by former Obama-administration officials led by CIA director John Brennan, FBI director James Comey, the DNC, and Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff. The loose ends in this cover-up have now been so widely exposed as hearsay and political that only 13% of Republicans believe the fact-free story – but 67% of Democrats cling to it. SOURCE: PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS [who leads with a link to Mike Whitney]

‘STATE-IMPOSED THOUGHT POLICE’: GERMAN POLITICIANS, ACTIVISTS SLAM BILL ON HATE SPEECH & FAKE NEWS

The German government has approved a new bill on combating hate speech and fake news, under which social networks could face hefty fines if they fail to remove offensive content promptly. Critics denounced the bill as a violation of free speech. The bill, introduced by German Justice Minister Heiko Maas, is aimed at forcing social network giants such as Facebook or Twitter to take more responsibility for the content posted by users and to make it compliant with German law. SOURCE: RT

ONLY 10 COMPANIES CONTROL ALMOST EVERY LARGE FOOD AND BEVERAGE BRAND IN THE WORLD

These companies — Nestlé, PepsiCo, Coca-Cola, Unilever, Danone, General Mills, Kellogg’s, Mars, Associated British Foods, and Mondelez — each employ thousands and make billions of dollars in revenue every year. In an effort to push these companies to make positive changes — and for customers to realize who controls the brands they’re buying — Oxfam created a mind-boggling infographic that shows how interconnected consumer brands really are. SOURCE: THE INDEPENDENT

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Stephen Bannon removed from National Security Council

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President Trump on Wednesday removed controversial White House chief strategist Stephen K. Bannon from the National Security Council, part of a sweeping staff reshuffling that elevated key military and intelligence officials to greater roles on the …

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Featured:What to Make of Bannon’s Exit From the NSCThe Atlantic

Opinion:Op-Ed: Even Trump supporters are relieved that Bannon is out at the National Security CouncilCNBC

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New Cold War

The Sovietization of the American Political-Media Establishment? TruthDig

Senate’s Russia Hearings Will Lead Nowhere Real News Network. A talk with Michael Hudson

U.S. Car Demand Collapse Jeopardizes Trump’s Auto Factory Push Bloomberg (resilc)

Martin Luther King’s Warning of America’s Spiritual Death Consortium News

Fifty Years On: MLK’s Giant Triplets Still Plague Us, Including Militarism. Counterpunch (Judy B)

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017/04/links-4517.html

New Cold War

UPDATE “Graham: Rice Has History of ‘Political Manipulation’ of Nat’l Security Informatio share this” [Fox News]. I’m linking to this because Lindsay Graham is both an Establishment figure and an opportunist, so if he’s swinging toward Trump on this, it’s an interesting indicator. I mean, Graham’s not getting all huffy about process, or the patriots who work in our national security apparatus, or anything like that.

Trump Transition

UPDATE “Window closing for Republican stealth assault on U.S. regulations” [Reuters]. Last Friday was the deadline for introducing any new [Congressional Review Act] resolutions on regulations enacted by Obama’s administration. Now Republicans must complete voting on resolutions already in the legislative pipeline by mid-May.

“President Donald Trump reorganized his National Security Council on Wednesday, removing chief strategist Stephen Bannon from a key committee and restoring the roles of top intelligence and defense officials, according to a person familiar with the decision and a notice published in the Federal Register” [Bloomberg]. “The realignment increases the influence of National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster, whose public stances were sometimes at odds of those of Bannon. In addition to gaining greater control over the NSC, McMaster will have the Homeland Security Council under his authority.” McMcaster being the guy The Blob wanted, rather than Flynn.

“Senate Republicans are preparing to abolish the final vestige of power that the minority has to block Supreme Court nominations through a filibuster. Many senators in both parties now worry that the final and biggest domino — the power to filibuster legislation — will be next” [New York Times]. Well, if the Republicans get rid of it, at least the Democrats won’t be able to whine about it any more.

“Gorsuch merits confirmation: Our view” [USA Today]. “Overall, Gorsuch is about the best choice the country can expect from this president; in fact, the nomination was one of the least objectionable things Trump has done since taking office.”

“Neil Gorsuch’s 11th-hour plagiarism scare” [WaPo]. Two words: Joe Biden.

UPDATE “Many of us were wrong, myself included, about Donald Trump. We saw in the jut-jawed, brow-furrowed Mussolini-like posturing, in the blatant narcissism, in the reckless disregard for truth, the anger and incitement to hatred, the declamations that he would fix everything single-handedly on Day One of his presidency, his disdain for democracy and hints that he would lock up his opponents — we saw in all of these things incipient fascism” [Todd Gitlin , Moyers and Company]. “And then, last Friday, with the demise of the Republican attempt to repeal Obamacare and replace it with… well, with a massive tax giveaway to the rich, we discovered — I discovered — that I was fearing the wrong thing. It’s not Trump’s ability to marshal the forces of repression that should terrify us. It’s his inability to marshal forces to conduct even the most basic governance.” Gitlin’s pivot is a fine example, amazingly enough, of the schema outlined by Scott Adams here.

UPDATE “Against Chelsea Clinton” [Matt Bruenig, Jacobin]. “Rumors are that Chelsea Clinton is gearing up to run for office. This is troubling news insofar as it might keep the Clinton machine and its hangers-on in politics. It also seems like a questionable idea insofar as Clinton is a nepotist legacy case whose whole career to this point has been hopping from one dodgy patronage job to another, not exactly the ideal image for the Democratic Party.” Oh, Matt. Neera’s gonna get you fired again!

2016

“Since her stunning election loss, Clinton has been taking the time to figure out what she wants to do next. ‘ She’s taking a look at her life and wants to try some different things,’ said one ally who has spoken to Clinton in recent weeks. ‘She’s not tying herself to something that’s always been an option. She wants to figure out what she wants to do’” [The Hill]. “One thing the former presidential nominee wants to do is figure out how she can best use her voice for the benefit of the Democratic Party, sources say.” Oddly, or not, retiring from public life isn’t an option.

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WEDNESDAY, APRIL 05, 2017

We all need to be asking ourselves that question periodically

“WSJ reports that Susan Rice Was Not Alone In “Unmasking” Team Trump”.

More than one unmasker. Unmasker of Flynn may not have been Rice. Leaker – where we get into illegal territory – still unknown. Rice appears to be the tip of the iceberg.

“Susan Rice Ordered “Detailed Spreadsheets Of Intercepted Phone Calls” With Trump Team”.

“If What Susan Rice Did Wasn’t Illegal, It Should Be”. “The Real Russiagate: Obama’s Stasi State — Michael Hudson and Paul Craig Roberts”. Barry appears to have had a Nixonian obsession with using tools available to him to gather dirt on his political enemies. This conflicts with the Barry narrative, explaining the near mania in Democrat operatives on this issue.

Meanwhile, another false flag gas attack in Syria: “Ghouta redux? Was this attack real?”. “ Idlib ‘Gas Attack’ is same old BS as before”. “Jumping to conclusions; something is not adding up in Idlib chemical weapons attack”. Boring, except Trump took uncharacteristic notice of it: “Trump Blames Obama For Syrian Chemical Attack”.

“Rebel warehouse with chemical weapons hit by Syrian airstrike in Idlib – Russian MOD”.

Curious, if clumsy, Rothschild machinations about the slumlord’s visit to Iraq: “Social Media Cries ‘Fake News’ After Reuters Pulls Story About Jared Kushner in Iraq [Updated: Reuters Confirms Kushner in Iraq]”. Note, Haim owns Gizmondo, so the machinations are some kind of partisan inter-Jew thing.

“Toronto’s Jewish Defence League Fascists”. Canadian mainstream terrorists.

“Chelsea Clinton Answers If She Will Run Against Trump In 2020″: “Right now, the answer is no, but I think we all need to be asking ourselves that question periodically”.

An example of why the bad guys like to collect metadata – it scares off sources who could reveal other wrongdoing: “‘Sources have stopped talking to us’: Witnesses testify at Day 1 of police-spying commission”. Again, metadata collection is 100% incompatible with functioning democracy. If you add blackmail of politicians, you can see that any Panopticon is a pure dictatorship run by and for the purposes of the IC.
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Re: Donald Trumps Great Syria Deception

Postby 82_28 » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:54 pm

Fruh, you really must make your OPs and comments more concise and readable. This bombing of Syria today doesn't need to be completely covered in link after link. Unfortunately I will be starting a new one. Apologies.
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Re: Donald Trumps Great Syria Deception

Postby dada » Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:31 am

82_28 » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:54 pm wrote:Fruh, you really must make your OPs and comments more concise and readable.


I gotta disagree with you there, 82. I find Fruhmenschen's style to be one of the best here. Easily digestible, info-packed posts, tailored for high-speed assimilation.

The thinkability quotient is great, presented in a format doesn't insult the readers intelligence. I won't say anything more, you get the idea.
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Postby 82_28 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:45 am

I did say "apologies" and I meant it. I just have about 20 tabs open right now and it is hard to plow through so many links all at once thus adding to the other unrelated tabs I am not going to close quite yet. My monitor has no room. Just a quibble.
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Re: Donald Trumps Great Syria Deception

Postby brekin » Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:25 pm

dada wrote:
82_28 » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:54 pm wrote:Fruh, you really must make your OPs and comments more concise and readable.


I gotta disagree with you there, 82. I find Fruhmenschen's style to be one of the best here. Easily digestible, info-packed posts, tailored for high-speed assimilation.
The thinkability quotient is great, presented in a format doesn't insult the readers intelligence. I won't say anything more, you get the idea.


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Re: Donald Trumps Great Syria Deception

Postby dada » Fri Apr 07, 2017 1:11 pm

I almost let this go, brekin. Wonder if I'm being sarcastic, it doesn't matter.

But I feel a rant coming on. So, no, I'm not being sarcastic. I appreciate thoughtful analysis and critique from the board member who is posting a news article. If someone isn't going to comment, I prefer headline, link, paraphrase. That's what I get from Fruhmenschen. I can speed-read through, click on links if I like, think about the rest. He's collected the data, it's up to me to do what I like with it.

I think all journalists are full of it. Maybe some began with a talent for writing, or communication, but they've squandered it. I don't need to read their opinions. You wanted to be a journalist so bad, then be a journalist. Just give me the info. If I have to plod through a journalists ego vomit to get to the meat of the piece, I'm annoyed. There are very few journalists that I can tolerate.

When I click on threads here, I look to the right first, to see who has posted most recently. I don't really care what the subject is, it's the board member that matters. Some board members have a good track record with me, they've been consistently interesting. Some names I haven't seen before, I'll click on those, too. Some posters fall into a grey area. Then there are the posters I skip. Once or twice a week or so, I'll catch up, just to make sure I haven't missed anything. Ninety-nine times out of a hundred, it's exactly as I thought.

This is my opinion, my process. It may be different for others.

If I wanted to be told what news to pay attention to, and what to think about it, I have plenty of options. First, I can read the newspaper. Second, tv news will give me three local stories, three propaganda pieces, a five minute fluff piece (that should only take about fifteen seconds), sports, weather, and fifteen minutes of commercials. Third, I can turn to MSNBC or something similar, get the same five propaganda stories, recycled all day. I understand, they figure the average watcher is tuning in for five minutes, they want to make sure everyone is getting the same messages. What we're supposed to think about today, and how to think about it. Fourth, I can visit the different internet echo chambers.

Where RI is different, is where I read. Where it is reproducing the spoon-feeding frenzy, I skip it. Large fonts, colorful fonts, full-length articles written by others, I can't be bothered. Don't waste my time.
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Re: Donald Trumps Great Syria Deception

Postby 82_28 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 1:24 pm

As for MSNBC I do watch Lawrence O'Donnell. Dig that guy. I appreciate that you weren't being sarcastic, dada. However most people in my "tenure" here provide one, two or three links. Not 20 all in one big gulp. I don't give a shit really as it's none of my business how people post. Just too many links in one OP is hard to wade through.
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Re: Donald Trumps Great Syria Deception

Postby dada » Fri Apr 07, 2017 1:59 pm

Well, everyone is different. I prefer twenty links in one big gulp. Less posts with more content. What I find ponderous to wade through is lots of threads, with posts that are basically mirrors of content from other sites. It gives the appearance that something is happening, but it's just noise to me.

Thoughtful critique from a board member sharing a news article takes work. I appreciate reading the opinions in the board member's own words. Curating a list of links also takes work. I appreciate that. Saves me time. To me, it's just board member etiquette. What I don't appreciate is the 'garbage in, garbage out' method.

And don't try to pull rank on me, I've been here for as long as you! haha Fruhmenschen has been here for years, as well. Post count isn't really a meaningful standard of measurement. A big big post count can mean many things. And a board member here for years with a low post count may just mean they put a lot of thought and effort into crafting their posts.
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Postby 82_28 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:17 pm

My post/comment count is just because I have told way too many stories over the years. Again, I don't care what others do and it is not my place to say. Carry on. It was just a suggestion.
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Postby fruhmenschen » Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:12 pm

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Friday, April 7, 2017
Syria's 2013 gas attacks were all false flags. Why would Assad in 2017, nearly winning his war, use gas and incite a US response?
I wrote about Syria's earlier gas attacks, in 2013. There was never any evidence linking Syrian government troops or the Assad government to the attacks then. No proof in the document given to the UN. And the US report making the case to Congress admittedly was full of unsubstantiated claims and guesswork. After initially pushing for action, France did a U-turn when the lack of evidence became obvious. UK Prime Minister David Cameron was halted by a vote in Parliament from going to war over the gas attacks. From the Aug 29, 2013 Guardian:
David Cameron indicated on Thursday evening that Britain would not take part in military action against Syria after the British government lost a crucial vote on an already watered-down amendment that was designed to pave the way to intervention in the war-torn country.
Even 'fake news' CNN pointed out the inconsistencies, back then. I and others noted that (just like today) Assad had no motive for such an attack, which could only hurt him. See 2013 coverage by the AP and the Atlantic.

Putin then brokered a deal in which Assad agreed to give up all his chemical weapons (the same ones the US and Russia still have). Portable factories that destroy chemical weapons were brought in, and all chemical weapons were turned over and destroyed.

Secretary of State Kerry confirmed the complete removal of chemical weapons from Syria on NBC's "Meet the Press" on July 20, 2014. He said,
Russia has been constructive in helping to remove 100% of the declared chemical weapons from Syria. In fact, that was an agreement we made months ago. And it never faltered, even during these moments of conflict.
Fast forward 3 years, and we are again alleging that Assad used his (destroyed in 2014) chemical weapons on his own people. Oops, no. That was yesterday.

Alleging Assad's use of chemical weapons is over; the claims have morphed into pounding Syria with Tomahawk cruise missiles and plenty more.

The Deep State apparatchiks (Hillary, Pelosi, Schumer, McCain, etc.) are celebrating. But the Congressmembers also want a piece of this war action. For example:
“This week’s unspeakable chemical weapons attack is only the latest in a long series of horrors perpetrated by Bashar al-Assad on innocent men, women and children,” Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said in a statement issued on the attacks in Syria. “Tonight’s strike in Syria appears to be a proportional response to the the regime’s use of chemical weapons. If the President intends to escalate the U.S. military’s involvement in Syria, he must to come to Congress for an Authorization for Use of Military Force which is tailored to meet the threat and prevent another open-ended war in the Middle East.”
Arrangements that helped avoid clashes between US and Russian planes/missiles/troops have now been shredded. This is not good.

Gold, the dollar, and oil prices are up. Tillerson should be pleased.

Meanwhile, Trump's base believes it has been double-crossed. Candidate Trump promised less war. Pundit Trump criticized Obama for even considering war in Syria, back in 2013.

Whether Trump continues to obey the will of the shadow government/deep state remains to be seen. But today he has lost his supporters, those in the 99% who know the cost of war falls on their shoulders... while some of those in the 1% reap the spoils.
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Re: Donald Trumps Great Syria Deception

Postby elfismiles » Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:33 am

Dada likes it Fruh-style ... i'm shocked! :eeyaa
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Re: Donald Trumps Great Syria Deception

Postby elfismiles » Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:35 am

Fruh's rockin it ole-skoo with GNN :wink



fruhmenschen » 07 Apr 2017 19:09 wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ne-aUQ0KOnA
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