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stefano » Tue May 23, 2017 1:57 pm wrote:Rory » Tue May 23, 2017 8:12 pm wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/23/manchester-arena-attacker-named-salman-abedi-suicide-attack-ariana-grande
"Salman Abedi is thought to have been known to both the police and the security services. "
Heard that one before..
From that:Police confirmed the 22-year-old’s identity after officials in the United States passed it to news reporters, apparently against the wishes of the police and security services in the UK.
Anonymous US officials, too. As Mac pointed out, what the fuck is up with that?
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Infowars granted White House press credentials, promptly smears victims of Manchester bombing
Many of the victims were children.
CREDIT: Screenshot
On Monday, Infowars announced it has been granted press credentials that will allow Washington bureau chief Jerome Corsi — a prominent swiftboater and birther — to attend White House press briefings.
Later that same day, Infowars founder Alex Jones smeared the victims of the attack during the Ariana Grande show in Manchester that killed at least 22 people, describing them as “liberal trendies.”
“The same people — God love them — on average who are promoting open borders, bringing Islamists in,” he added.
Later during his rant, Jones characterized the victims as “a bunch of liberals who have already run up the white flag to the Islamists, and this happens so more of our liberties can be lost, and so governments in Europe, the U.K., and the U.S. can say, ‘Don’t criticize Muslims, or they’ll blow you up, because they’re the religion of peace.’”
Grande, whose first national exposure came on Nickelodeon, has many teen and pre-teen fans. As the U.K.-based Metro publication reported, “Twelve children under the age of 16 were among the 59 casualties taken to hospital after the terror attack at Manchester Arena.” One of the first confirmed fatalities was an 8-year-old girl named Saffie Rose Roussos.
One witness who saw the aftermath of the attack told CNN, “It was a lot of children, with blood all over them." These are the people Jones went out of his way to smear on Tuesday night.
He’s done stuff like this before. Infowars is perhaps best known for relentlessly spreading the conspiracy theory that the 2012 school shooting at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, was a hoax. Leonard Pozner, father of one of the 20 children killed in that mass shooting, told the Daily Beast during Jones’ recent custody trial, “I wish I could be there in the courtroom to stare him down to remind him of how he’s throwing salt on a wound, and so he can remember how he handed out salt for other people to throw on mine.”
During that trial, Jones described himself as a “performance artist” instead of a journalist. But his act has real and negative consequences for people like Pozner, who described to the Daily Beast how he was threatened and harassed by Jones’ conspiracy-obsessed fans.
Jones’ promotion of baseless Sandy Hook conspiracies wasn’t enough to keep then-candidate Trump for going on his show in December 2015 and telling him, “Your reputation is amazing… I won’t let you down.”
Eight months later, Jones said he was advising Trump about “election fraud.” According to Jones, Trump took him seriously, telling him he’s “already concurred and absolutely was on the same page and was already right there with me or even ahead of me.”
America’s ‘Most Prolific Conspiracy Theorist’ Reveals He’s Now Advising Donald Trump
Trump is taking him very seriously.
thinkprogress.org
Indeed, in the months that followed, Trump pushed a baseless conspiracy theory that millions of illegal votes were cast during a presidential election where he received nearly three million fewer votes than Hillary Clinton. Earlier this month, the Trump administration announced the official creation of a Mike Pence-headed election integrity committee including anti-immigration vote-suppression specialist Kris Kobach.
After the election, Jones played a leading role in pushing a baseless WikiLeaks-fueled conspiracy about prominent Democrats being involved in a pedophilia ring. But in a carefully worded statement he read during his broadcast two months ago, Jones apologized, saying “we regret any negative impact our commentaries may have had” on the people involved. He did so only after the owner of a business targeted by Jones as part of the so-called Pizzagate story sent him a letter asking him to retract statements he made during his broadcasts.
The Infowars article announcing the publication’s new White House credentials notes that Jones “may even attend some White House press briefings in person.”
https://thinkprogress.org/alex-jones-sm ... 3ab1501ad9
Cordelia » Tue May 23, 2017 3:24 pm wrote:22 killed on the 22nd by a 22 year old.
Father of Salman Abedi insists his son is innocent
Richard Hartley-Parkinson for Metro.co.uk
Wednesday 24 May 2017 2:54 pm
The father of suspected Manchester bomber Salman Abedi has insisted his son is innocent.
He has also confirmed that the police have arrested another son.
Ramadan Abedi, who is in Tripoli, told the Associated Press: ‘We don’t believe in killing innocents. This is not us.’
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http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/24/father-of ... z4i158GGcX
Where did it happen?
- Manchester Arena said the incident took place “outside the venue in a public space”.
- The blast was reported to have hit the foyer of the building at about 10.30pm, British Transport police said.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... ana-grande
8bitagent » Wed May 24, 2017 4:13 am wrote:Oh those faint, innocent days when conspiracy folk decried all major terrorism in the west as the "false flag gladio work of shadow governments"...before now,
when all terrorism really is the work of Islam Inc(TM) and to be taken as face value.Cordelia » Tue May 23, 2017 3:24 pm wrote:22 killed on the 22nd by a 22 year old.
So insane. Triple 22. I just finished watching the new Twin Peaks episode with Dale Cooper hitting all 777 jackpots in Vegas when i heard about this event
Fares Shehabi @ShehabiFares 15 minutes ago
Why the Manchester bomber was NOT arrested upon his return from Libya & Syria? Was it because he was a rebel against the Syrian army?
MacCruiskeen » Wed May 24, 2017 7:29 pm wrote:3. Why were these anonymous American "blabbermouths" (sic) party to details of the ongoing investigation at all? Who the fuck were they, and why were they there?
Found at the Scene in Manchester: A Detonator, Shrapnel and a Battery
By C. J. CHIVERS MAY 24, 2017
The Times got access to evidence photographed at the crime scene, and it suggests an improvised device made with forethought and care.
The bomber in the Manchester terrorist attack appeared to have carried a powerful explosive in a lightweight metal container concealed either within a black vest or a blue Karrimor backpack, and to have held a small detonator in his left hand, according to preliminary information gathered by British authorities.
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And a review of the location of those killed shows most of the fatalities occurred in a nearly complete circle around the bomber, Salman Abedi, whose upper torso was heaved outside the lethal ring toward the Manchester Arena entrance.
stefano wrote:Now the NYT has sources inside the British forensic team, apparently.
Possible detonator located in suspect’s left hand
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... -news&_r=0
Hours before the British government was prepared to release the name of the Manchester suicide bomber, Salman Abedi, U.S. intelligence sources leaked the name to American TV networks.
The Guardian reports that the British were unsure they even wanted to release the name because the investigation was ongoing, and it was strongly believed that another terror attack may have been "imminent." But once the U.S. networks forced their hand, the British government had no choice but to confirm the identity of the bomber.
There is little doubt that American intelligence personnel deliberately leaked the name of the suicide bomber. The question is why.
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http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/201 ... happy.html
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