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Trump Declares War on the Republican Party Tonight

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:06 pm

the real clash tonight in Arizona isn't between dems and repubs

it's trump against the republican party

Mitch McConnell guy Billy Piper told trump to lay off or face impeachment

they had a big cursing yelling fight on the phone
sounds like trump might have told Mitch to stop the Russian investigation in the Senate


also breaking tonight .......
trump tried to block senate investigation into the Russia thing

yea that's a crime

McConnell Allies Warn Trump He’ll Be Impeached If He Keeps Attacking Republican Senators
By Jason Easley on Tue, Aug 22nd, 2017 at 8:49 pm
Mitch McConnell's allies sent a stern warning to Trump that if he knocks off Republican Senators and Democrats get control of the Senate, he'll be on the fast track to impeachment.


McConnell Allies Warn Trump He’ll Be Impeached If He Keeps Attacking Republican Senators


Mitch McConnell’s allies sent a stern warning to Trump that if he knocks off Republican Senators and Democrats get control of the Senate, he’ll be on the fast track to impeachment.

The New York Times reported:
But Mr. McConnell’s allies warn that the president should be wary of doing anything that could jeopardize the Senate Republican majority.

“The quickest way for him to get impeached is for Trump to knock off Jeff Flake and Dean Heller and be faced with a Democrat-led Senate,” said Billy Piper, a lobbyist and former McConnell chief of staff.

The interesting part of that quote from McConnell’s former chief of staff is that Democrats getting control of the Senate wouldn’t be enough to impeach Trump. If Democrats were to take back the Senate, they would at best have a slim two vote majority. It takes 67 votes to convict and remove a president from office. McConnell’s former chief of staff seems to be saying that there are enough Republican Senators who would join with Democrats to remove Trump from office.



It is possible that there are 15-16 GOP Senators who would vote to convict Trump. Guessing who those Senators are would make for an interesting game.

The threat to Trump was clear. If he keeps messing with Republican incumbent Senators, he’ll be risking getting thrown out of office. This the biggest omen yet that Senate Republicans are coming closer to turning on Trump.
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/08/22/ ... ators.html


McConnell, in Private, Doubts if Trump Can Save Presidency
By ALEXANDER BURNS and JONATHAN MARTINAUG. 22, 2017

Senator Mitch McConnell, the majority leader, has fumed over President Trump’s regular threats against fellow Republicans and criticism of Senate rules. Credit Eric Thayer for The New York Times
The relationship between President Trump and Senator Mitch McConnell, the majority leader, has disintegrated to the point that they have not spoken to each other in weeks, and Mr. McConnell has privately expressed uncertainty that Mr. Trump will be able to salvage his administration after a series of summer crises.

What was once an uneasy governing alliance has curdled into a feud of mutual resentment and sometimes outright hostility, complicated by the position of Mr. McConnell’s wife, Elaine L. Chao, in Mr. Trump’s cabinet, according to more than a dozen people briefed on their imperiled partnership. Angry phone calls and private badmouthing have devolved into open conflict, with the president threatening to oppose Republican senators who cross him, and Mr. McConnell mobilizing to their defense.

The rupture between Mr. Trump and Mr. McConnell comes at a highly perilous moment for Republicans, who face a number of urgent deadlines when they return to Washington next month. Congress must approve new spending measures and raise the statutory limit on government borrowing within weeks of reconvening, and Republicans are hoping to push through an elaborate rewrite of the federal tax code. There is scant room for legislative error on any front.

A protracted government shutdown or a default on sovereign debt could be disastrous — for the economy and for the party that controls the White House and both chambers of Congress.

Yet Mr. Trump and Mr. McConnell are locked in a political cold war. Neither man would comment for this story. Don Stewart, a spokesman for Mr. McConnell, noted that the senator and the president had “shared goals,” and pointed to “tax reform, infrastructure, funding the government, not defaulting on the debt, passing the defense authorization bill.”

Still, the back-and-forth has been dramatic.

In a series of tweets this month, Mr. Trump criticized Mr. McConnell publicly, then berated him in a phone call that quickly devolved into a profane shouting match.

During the call, which Mr. Trump initiated on Aug. 9 from his New Jersey golf club, the president accused Mr. McConnell of bungling the health care issue. He was even more animated about what he intimated was the Senate leader’s refusal to protect him from investigations of Russian interference in the 2016 election, according to Republicans briefed on the conversation.

Mr. McConnell has fumed over Mr. Trump’s regular threats against fellow Republicans and criticism of Senate rules, and questioned Mr. Trump’s understanding of the presidency in a public speech. Mr. McConnell has made sharper comments in private, describing Mr. Trump as entirely unwilling to learn the basics of governing.

In offhand remarks, Mr. McConnell has expressed a sense of bewilderment about where Mr. Trump’s presidency may be headed, and has mused about whether Mr. Trump will be in a position to lead the Republican Party into next year’s elections and beyond, according to people who have spoken to him directly.

While maintaining a pose of public reserve, Mr. McConnell expressed horror to advisers last week after Mr. Trump’s comments equating white supremacists in Charlottesville, Va., with protesters who rallied against them. Mr. Trump’s most explosive remarks came at a news conference in Manhattan, where he stood beside Ms. Chao. (Ms. Chao, deflecting a question about the tensions between her husband and the president she serves, told reporters, “I stand by my man — both of them.”)

Mr. McConnell signaled to business leaders that he was deeply uncomfortable with Mr. Trump’s comments: Several who resigned advisory roles in the Trump administration contacted Mr. McConnell’s office after the fact, and were told that Mr. McConnell fully understood their choices, three people briefed on the conversations said.

Mr. Trump has also continued to badger and threaten Mr. McConnell’s Senate colleagues, including Senator Jeff Flake of Arizona, whose Republican primary challenger was praised by Mr. Trump last week.

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Mr. Trump was set to hold a campaign rally on Tuesday night in Phoenix, and Republicans feared he would use the event to savage Mr. Flake again.

If he does, senior Republican officials said the party’s senators would stand up for their colleague. A Republican “super PAC” aligned with Mr. McConnell released a web ad on Tuesday assailing Mr. Flake’s Republican rival, Kelli Ward, as a fringe-dwelling conspiracy theorist.


"ChemtrailKelli," an attack ad released by a Republican “super PAC” aligned with Mr. McConnell. Video by Senate Leadership Fund
“When it comes to the Senate, there’s an Article 5 understanding: An attack against one is an attack against all,” said Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, who has found himself in Mr. Trump’s sights many times, invoking the NATO alliance’s mutual defense doctrine.

The fury among Senate Republicans toward Mr. Trump has been building since last month, even before he lashed out at Mr. McConnell. Some of them blame the president for not being able to rally the party around any version of legislation to repeal the Affordable Care Act, accusing him of not knowing even the basics about the policy. Senate Republicans also say strong-arm tactics from the White House backfired, making it harder to cobble together votes and have left bad feelings in the caucus.

When Mr. Trump addressed a Boy Scouts jamboree last month in West Virginia, White House aides told Senator Shelley Moore Capito, a Republican from the state whose support was in doubt, that she could only accompany him on Air Force One if she committed to voting for the health care bill. She declined the invitation, noting that she could not commit to voting for a measure she had not seen, according to Republican briefed on the conversation.

Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska told colleagues that when Mr. Trump’s interior secretary threatened to pull back federal funding for her state, she felt boxed in and unable to vote for the health care bill.

In a show of solidarity, albeit one planned well before Mr. Trump took aim at Mr. Flake, Mr. McConnell will host a $1,000-per-person dinner on Friday in Kentucky for the Arizona senator, as well as for Senator Dean Heller of Nevada, who is also facing a Trump-inspired primary race next year, and Senator Deb Fischer of Nebraska. Mr. Flake is expected to attend the event.

Former Senator Judd Gregg of New Hampshire, a Republican who is close to Mr. McConnell, said frustration with Mr. Trump was boiling over in the chamber. Mr. Gregg blamed the president for undermining congressional leaders, and said the House and Senate would have to govern on their own if Mr. Trump “can’t participate constructively.”

“Failure to do things like keeping the government open and passing a tax bill is the functional equivalent of playing Russian roulette with all the chambers loaded,” Mr. Gregg said.

Others in the party divide blame between Mr. Trump and Mr. McConnell. Al Hoffman, a former finance chairman of the Republican National Committee who has been supportive of Mr. McConnell, said Mr. McConnell was culpable because he has failed to deliver legislative victories. “Ultimately, it’s been Mitch’s responsibility, and I don’t think he’s done much,” Mr. Hoffman said.

But Mr. Hoffman predicted that Mr. McConnell would likely outlast the president.

“I think he’s going to blow up, self-implode,” Mr. Hoffman said of Mr. Trump. “I wouldn’t be surprised if McConnell pulls back his support of Trump and tries to go it alone.”

An all-out clash between Mr. Trump and Mr. McConnell would play out between men whose strengths and weaknesses are very different. Mr. Trump is a political amateur, still unschooled in the ways of Washington, but he maintains a viselike grip on the affections of the Republican base. Mr. McConnell is a soft-spoken career politician, with virtuoso mastery of political fund-raising and tactics, but he had no mass following to speak of.

Mr. McConnell, while baffled at Mr. Trump’s penchant for internecine attacks, is a ruthless pragmatist and has given no overt indication that he plans to seek more drastic conflict. Despite his private battles with Mr. Trump, Mr. McConnell has sent reassuring signals with his public conduct: On Monday, he appeared in Louisville, Ky., with Steven Mnuchin, the Treasury secretary, for a discussion of tax policy.

Mr. McConnell’s Senate colleagues, however, have grown bolder. The combination of the president’s frontal attacks on Senate Republicans and his claim that there were “fine people” marching with white supremacists in Charlottesville has emboldened lawmakers to criticize Mr. Trump in withering terms.

Senator Bob Corker of Tennessee rebuked Mr. Trump last week for failing to “demonstrate the stability nor some of the competence” required of presidents. On Monday, Senator Susan Collins of Maine said in a television interview that she was uncertain Mr. Trump would be the Republican presidential nominee in 2020.

There are few recent precedents for the rift. The last time a president turned on a legislative leader of his own party was in 2002, when allies of George W. Bush helped force Trent Lott to step down as Senate minority leader after racially charged remarks at a birthday party for Senator Strom Thurmond, Republican of South Carolina.

For the moment, Mr. McConnell appears to be far more secure in his position, and perhaps immune to coercion from the White House. Republicans are unlikely to lose control of the Senate in 2018, and Mr. Trump has no allies in the Senate who have shown an appetite for combat with Mr. McConnell.

Still, some allies of Mr. Trump on the right — including Stephen K. Bannon, who stepped down last week as Mr. Trump’s chief strategist — welcome more direct conflict with Mr. McConnell and congressional Republicans.

Roger J. Stone Jr., a Republican strategist who has advised Mr. Trump for decades, said the president needed to “take a scalp” in order to force cooperation from Republican elites who have resisted his agenda. Mr. Stone urged Mr. Trump to make an example of one or more Republicans, like Mr. Flake, who have refused to give full support to his administration.

“The president should start bumping off incumbent Republican members of Congress in primaries,” Mr. Stone said. “If he did that, Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan would wet their pants and the rest of the Republicans would get in line.”

But Mr. McConnell’s allies warn that the president should be wary of doing anything that could jeopardize the Senate Republican majority.

“The quickest way for him to get impeached is for Trump to knock off Jeff Flake and Dean Heller and be faced with a Democrat-led Senate,” said Billy Piper, a lobbyist and former McConnell chief of staff.https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/22/us/p ... trump.html



Fusion GPS guy that hired Steele to do the dossier ...

40,000 documents handed over to Senate

10 hour meeting with Senate Intel Committee today



Steele has talked to the FBI


British spy Christopher Steele tells FBI sources for Trump 'dossier': report

CHRISTOPHER BRENNAN
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Updated: Tuesday, August 22, 2017, 4:31 PM
The British spy behind a salacious “dossier” on President Trump has told the FBI about his sources for the document, according to a report.

Former MI6 agent Christopher Steele authored the 35-page unsubstantiated report published online in January, which alleged that blackmail against Trump was being used by Kremlin officials in an election interference plot.

Investigations into that alleged meddling have been trying to talk to Steele, who has experience in the former Soviet Union and disappeared after his dossier became public,with ABC News reporting that he has now met with the FBI.

He reportedly told investigators about the names of his sources, identified only by letters in the dossier.

Trump dossier author Christopher Steele fights deposition

It was not immediately clear what other information he gave.

A Washington Post report from earlier this year said that the FBI once planned on paying Steele to continue his work looking into potential Trump-Russia connections after an intermediary brought them his alleged findings after the release of hacked Democratic National Committee emails.

The U.S. intelligence community later jointly found that hack to be part of an effort by Moscow to tilt the election toward Trump.


Glenn Simpson, co-founder of Fusion GPS, reportedly met with Senate Judiciary Committee staff on Tuesday. (FACEBOOK)
Steele’s reported meeting with the FBI comes as the agency, the House, the Senate and special counsel Robert Mueller all investigate the alleged meddling, with the spy’s testimony also requested in a Florida defamation suit by a Russian businessman listed in the dossier.

Trump regrets hiring Sessions after Russia recusal
The man who hired the Brit to look into Trump, investigative firm Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson, reportedly spoke with staff for the Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday.

Simpson was interviewed for hours and gave the committee more than 40,000 documents, Fox News reported.

The committee had wanted the businessman to testify publicly last month, but took back a subpoena after he agreed to talk in private.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.3433372


"Fusion GPS is proud of the work it has conducted and stands by it," Levy, Simpson's lawyer, said in a statement.

He said the "investigation into Mr. Simpson began as a desperate attempt by the Trump campaign and its allies to smear Fusion GPS because of its reported connection to the Trump dossier."


Committee Hears From Founder of Firm Tied to Trump Dossier
The co-founder of a Washington opposition research firm that produced a dossier of salacious allegations involving President Donald Trump met for hours with congressional investigators Tuesday in a closed-door appearance that spanned into the evening.

Aug. 22, 2017, at 8:47 p.m.

Committee Hears From Founder of Firm Tied to Trump Dossier



By ERIC TUCKER, Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — The co-founder of a Washington opposition research firm that produced a dossier of salacious allegations involving President Donald Trump met for hours with congressional investigators Tuesday in a closed-door appearance that spanned into the evening.

Glenn Simpson's lawyer emerged from the daylong private appearance and said his client had "told Congress the truth and cleared the record on many matters of interest."

The lawyer, Josh Levy, noted that Simpson appeared voluntarily and has so far been the only witness to be interviewed by the Senate Judiciary Committee as it looks into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

The sheer length of Simpson's appearance — far longer, for instance, than Trump's son-in-law spent earlier this summer with Senate and House intelligence committees — reflected the intrigue on Capitol Hill surrounding the dossier and the origins of the document.

Simpson's firm, Fusion GPS, hired a British intelligence officer who produced a dossier containing allegations of ties between Trump and his associates and Russia. Simpson kept the identities of the firm's clients confidential during his appearance before Congress, his lawyer said.

The document attracted public attention in January when it was revealed that FBI Director James Comey had briefed Trump about its existence soon before he was inaugurated as president. It's unclear to what extent the allegations in the dossier have been corroborated or verified by the FBI since the bureau has not publicly discussed it.

"Fusion GPS is proud of the work it has conducted and stands by it," Levy, Simpson's lawyer, said in a statement.

He said the "investigation into Mr. Simpson began as a desperate attempt by the Trump campaign and its allies to smear Fusion GPS because of its reported connection to the Trump dossier."

Leaders of the Judiciary Committee said last month that they were negotiating private appearances for Donald Trump Jr., who has attracted scrutiny for accepting a June 2016 meeting with Russians at which he expected to receive damaging information about Hillary Clinton, and for Paul Manafort, the former Trump campaign chairman. Yet no dates have been announced for their appearances.

"Following up on comments from certain Senate Judiciary Committee members who have noted Mr. Simpson's cooperation with this investigation," Levy said, I would like to add that he is the first and only witness to participate in an interview with the Committee as it probes Russian interference in the 2016 election."

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They could still get him out of office.
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Re: Trump Declares War on the Republican Party Tonight

Postby norton ash » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:48 pm

He's declaring war on coherence and human dignity in Phoenix at the moment. Unbelievable.

EDIT: There's a black man who's been behind Trump with a 'Blacks for Trump' sign throughout the speech with a link to Gods2.com EDIT: also: https://blacksfortrump2020.com/

And this is the website you wind up at from both links: http://www.honestfact.com/

Har de har.
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Re: Trump Declares War on the Republican Party Tonight

Postby 82_28 » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:00 pm

It ain't over yet though, Nortie. All those fucks still have to go out into the street to their cars. I dunno but well Jesus. This could get real bad coming up in moments.
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Re: Trump Declares War on the Republican Party Tonight

Postby Iamwhomiam » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:04 pm

https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000005386955/president-trump-phoenix-rally-live.html

He is done! He has hung himself out to dry and has done serious damage to the Republican Party. They will fry his ass!

edited to add this puzzling portion of his closing:

"this is our moment, this is our chance, our opportunity to recapture our dynasty like never before... "

Good Christ! What could possibly be coming next, post Trump?

Funny his silence on his Afghan war plan.
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Re: Trump Declares War on the Republican Party Tonight

Postby Iamwhomiam » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:02 am

norton ash » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:48 pm wrote:He's declaring war on coherence and human dignity in Phoenix at the moment. Unbelievable.

EDIT: There's a black man who's been behind Trump with a 'Blacks for Trump' sign throughout the speech with a link to Gods2.com EDIT: also: https://blacksfortrump2020.com/

And this is the website you wind up at from both links: http://www.honestfact.com/

Har de har.


Friggin unreal. Waddya think, those pens, shirts and other merchandise were made by Americans in the USA? Putting Americans to work? I don't think so.
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Re: Trump Declares War on the Republican Party Tonight

Postby Jerky » Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:40 am

norton ash » 23 Aug 2017 02:48 wrote:He's declaring war on coherence and human dignity in Phoenix at the moment. Unbelievable.

EDIT: There's a black man who's been behind Trump with a 'Blacks for Trump' sign throughout the speech with a link to Gods2.com EDIT: also: https://blacksfortrump2020.com/

And this is the website you wind up at from both links: http://www.honestfact.com/

Har de har.


Holy Moly... so all this time, the read behind-the-scenes string-pulling elite pedo-Satanist bankster Killuminati bad guysTM were...

THE CHEROKEES?!?!

I must be more brainwashed than I even suspected, because I can't even entertain that thought for a lark.

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Re: Trump Declares War on the Republican Party Tonight

Postby SonicG » Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:51 am

I wish I could claim to be a Cherokee Anarchist...

Was just musing though...Besides Arpaio, why Arizona? It is a border state and will get to host his beautiful wall that he is willing to shut down government for...even though Mexico will pay for it...And is the wall shutdown before or after tax reform (which will be a real cakewalk through the senate and house now!)?
Arpaio is scum, if he hasn't been on your radar. Just found this out, which I hadn't heard before:

However, the president’s justification for an Arpaio pardon does not rest on his innocence on the charge of disregarding the courts. “Is there anyone in local law enforcement who has done more to crack down on illegal immigration than Sheriff Joe?” Trump told Fox News. “He has protected people from crimes and saved lives. He doesn’t deserve to be treated this way.”

Trump’s assertion is at odds with our reporting. In the shift to full-time immigration enforcement, Giblin and I found that the sheriff’s police work faltered across the board in its mission to protect the citizens of Maricopa County. Detectives shelved dozens of sex crime cases without investigating them. By Arpaio’s own admission, the number of uninvestigated sex crime cases eventually swelled to more than 400. Many of the victims were children.

Arpaio did apologize years later for failing to pursue suspected sex criminals. But he has remained largely defiant, and consistently on the record about his defiance. The former sheriff summed up many observers’ feelings in an interview for “The Joe Show,” a documentary on Arpaio’s tenure.

“It’s amazing what I say, and what I do, and what I get away with,” Arpaio told the filmmakers. “It’s amazing.”

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Re: Trump Declares War on the Republican Party Tonight

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:15 am

What Was THAT?

6 Lowlights From Trump’s Phoenix Rant-Fest

President Donald Trump speaks at a rally, Tuesday, Aug.22, 2017, in Phoenix. (AP Photo/Rick Scuteri)
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By CAITLIN MACNEAL Published AUGUST 23, 2017 7:43 AM

During a rally in Phoenix, Arizona, Tuesday night, Trump returned to his free-wheeling campaign style diatribes, jumping from topic to topic, sharing his unfiltered thoughts on several matters.

As he did during the campaign, Trump peppered his lengthy, raucous speech with asides to the crowd, responding to chants and shouts. The President spoke for more than an hour, lashing out at his critics and renewing the push for several of his campaign promises.

He began his speech by bashing the media and defending his response to the deadly car attack in Charlottesville, conveniently leaving out the fact that he initially blamed “many sides” for the violence there. Trump also touched on several other topics, like the potential to pardon Sheriff Joe Arpaio, funding for the border wall, and NAFTA.

And though he was expected to use his speech to slam Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ) and prop up one of his primary challengers, the President showed just a little bit of restraint by only offering a few lines criticizing the Republican senator from Arizona.

Below are some of the highlights from Trump’s speech:

Rehashed response to Charlottesville
At the beginning of the rally, Trump defended the way he responded to the violence in Charlottesville during a “Unite the Right” rally and counterprotest. He complained that the “dishonest” media does not like to report that he “spoke out forcefully against hatred, bigotry, and violence, and strongly condemned the neo-Nazis, the white supremacists, and the KKK.”

Trump pulled out a transcript of the initial remarks he made after the deadly car attack but omitted the fact that he blamed “many sides” for the violence.

His defense was met with chants of “CNN sucks” from the crowd, prompting Trump to lament that the network fired Jeffrey Lord, a pro-Trump analyst who tweeted a Nazi salute.

While discussing the “dishonest” media, Trump singled out Fox News as his favorite network. He praised Sean Hannity, perhaps the host most favorable to Trump, and called “Fox and Friends” the “absolute most honest show.”

While on the topic of Charlottesville, Trump also made sure to say he was disappointed by the renewed push to remove Confederate statues from public land.

“They are trying to take away our history and our heritage,” he told the crowd.

Hinted that he could pardon Sheriff Joe Arpaio
Trump did not announce that he would pardon Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio, as the White House had said earlier in the day. But he did hint that he could pardon the sheriff at some point.

“So was Sheriff Joe convicted for doing his job?” Trump asked the crowd in Phoenix. “You know what, I’ll make a prediction: I think he’s going to be just fine, okay? But I won’t do it tonight because I don’t want to cause any controversy. But Sheriff Joe should feel good.”

Bashed McCain and Flake
The President was expected to go after Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ) and potentially praise one of his primary challengers, Republican state Sen. Kelli Ward. But Trump did not mention Flake or Ward by name, and offered only a subtle jab at Sen. John McCain (R-AZ).

Trump mentioned that Republicans were “one vote away” from passing a bill to repeal Obamacare, a reference to McCain’s dramatic vote cast against the bill.

“I will not mention any names,” Trump said, patting himself on the back for acting “presidential.”

The President then turned to Flake, again not actually mentioning his name.

“And nobody wants me to talk about your other senator, who’s weak on borders, weak on crime. So I won’t talk about him,” Trump said.

Threatened shutdown over border wall funding
Trump visited the southern border before his speech in Phoenix on Tuesday, and mentioned his proposed border wall during the rally. He suggested that he would push to tie funding for the wall to a must-pass government spending bill in the fall, even if that risks shutting down the government.

“The obstructionist Democrats would like us not to do it, but believe me, if we have to close down our government, we’re building that wall,” Trump told the crowd.

Suggested he will nix NAFTA
Trump brought up one of his most prominent campaign trail promises on Tuesday night, his pledge to re-negotiate or terminate the North American Free Trade Agreement. In April, the President was prepared to terminate NAFTA, but was persuaded to instead seek re-negotiation. But Tuesday night, he suggested he could still change his mind again.

“Personally, I don’t think we can make a deal because we have been so badly taken advantage of,” he said of the trade agreement. “I think we’ll end up probably terminating NAFTA at some point.”

Called for Senate to nuke the filibuster
While Congress has been away for the August recess, Trump has stayed relatively quiet on legislation. But Tuesday night he called for the Senate to change its rules so that they could easily pass Obamacare repeal, tax cuts, and funding for the border wall. He echoed his past calls for Senate Republicans to nix the legislative filibuster, which allows the minority to force bills to be passed with 60 votes instead of just 51. Eliminating the filibuster would not have helped Republicans pass Obamacare repeal, however, because they were not even able to get 50 GOP senators on board.

“If we don’t, the Republicans will never get anything passed. You’re wasting your time,” Trump said Tuesday night. “We have to get rid of the filibuster rule. Right now, we need 60 votes. We have 52 Republicans. That means that eight Democrats are controlling all of this legislation.”
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Former DNI James Clapper says Donald Trump is looking for a way out of office
By Bill Palmer
Updated: 1:11 am EDT Wed Aug 23, 2017
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In the hours after Donald Trump’s groundbreakingly jarring and bizarre speech at a Phoenix rally, numerous political commentators on both sides of the aisle were either outraged or taken aback or both. But the most stunning analysis of the night may have come from James Clapper, the recently Retired Director of National Intelligence, who served Presidents of both parties, when he appeared on CNN around midnight on Tuesday night.



James Clapper said it was the most “disturbing” thing he’s ever seen from a U.S. President, and he went on to express pointed concern about the fact that Donald Trump has access to nuclear launch codes. Clapper has tried to avoid partisan politics since he retired in January, and in fact it’s been difficult to decipher whether he might be a Democrat or a Republican himself. But his remarks on Tuesday night were stark. And then he made an assessment which will see quite a bit of analysis in the coming days.



Clapper stated that he thinks Donald Trump may be “looking for a way out” of the presidency. This appeared to be based solely on his own assessment of what he’s seeing play out, and not based on any inside information. But Clapper has spent so much time working closely with so many Presidents over the years, he’s in a prime position to spot this kind of thing when he sees it.



This dovetails with Palmer Report’s reporting from Monday evening which quoted an inside source as saying that Donald Trump is in preliminary talks about the possibility of resigning (link). And as Palmer Report has previously explained, despite Trump’s “campaign rallies” he’s not really running for reelection (link). Events like Phoenix are aimed at creating the appearance of a reelection campaign, so he can fundraise for it and then pocket the money.
http://www.palmerreport.com/politics/ja ... -out/4462/
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Re: Trump Declares War on the Republican Party Tonight

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:54 am

I don't think any of this coverage is tethered to reality. Leaks are strategic.

Anyone remember that great 80's scrapbook The Clothes Have No Emperor? I was talking that over with a friend (a professor, natch) who said she feels Trump isn't really anything new, and more or less on par with Reagan. She thinks the big difference is 1) Trump having Twitter and 2) ubiquitous smartphones & online news.

I do think Reagan was a more polished operator, but he also had more advanced dementia. I need to re-read that book either way, though, she's probably right.

Anyways. I mention Reagan because the very "Deep State" military industrial complex that everyone from Palmer Report to Louise Mensch are banking on have a history of tolerating old, crazy white men who couldn't say the right thing to save their own nose.

Edit: Tolerating them for two consecutive terms.

The only Trump speech that mattered this week happened Monday night.
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Re: Trump Declares War on the Republican Party Tonight

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Re: Trump Declares War on the Republican Party Tonight

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:26 pm

Donald Trump's 57 most outrageous quotes from his Arizona speech
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(CNN)President Donald Trump went to Arizona on Tuesday night and delivered what has now become a trademark speech: Full of invective, victimhood and fact-free retellings of recent historical events.

I went through the transcript of Trump's speech -- all 77 minutes -- and picked out his 57 most outrageous lines, in chronological order. They're below.
1. "And just so you know from the Secret Service, there aren't too many people outside protesting, OK. That I can tell you."
This is, literally, the first line of his speech. Trump is obsessed with the idea that the opposition to him is overstated while the support for him is understated. (They won't turn the cameras around and show the size of my crowds!) CNN's Saba Hamedy, who was on the scene of the protests, said that thousands of people were on the streets of Phoenix.
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2. "A lot of people in here, a lot of people pouring right now. They can get them in. Whatever you can do, fire marshals, we'll appreciate it."
So many people love me -- it's hard to fit them all in the building! But, try!
3. "You know I'd love it if the cameras could show this crowd, because it is rather incredible. It is incredible."
For the record: The cameras always show the crowd. Have for months and years.
4. "We went to center stage almost from day one in the debates. We love those debates."
The election ended 287 days ago, as of last night.
5. "Our movement is a movement built on love."
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For a second, you might have been tricked into thinking that Trump was going to return to the message of unity and justice he laid out at the start of his Afghanistan speech on Monday night. Spoiler alert: He wasn't.
6. "We all share the same home, the same dreams and the same hopes for a better future. A wound inflicted upon one member of our community is a wound inflicted upon us all."
The second sentence of this is verbatim from his speech on Monday. But as the rest of Trump's speech shows, these are just words to him. He reads them but doesn't understand them. Or believe them.
7. "I see all those red hats and white hats. It's all happening very fast. It's called: 'Make America Great Again.'"
Trump conflates a call to unity and an end to divisiveness with supporting him. The country is coming together because lots of people at a campaign rally have "MAGA" hats on!
8. "Just like (the media doesn't) want to report that I spoke out forcefully against hatred, bigotry and violence and strongly condemned the neo-Nazis, the White Supremacists, and the KKK."
[narrator voice]: He didn't.

9. "So here is my first statement when I heard about Charlottesville -- and I have a home in Charlottesville, a lot of people don't know."
Follow this logic: The media says I didn't condemn the white supremacists and neo-Nazis in Charlotteville. I did -- because I have a house there, which many people don't know.
10. "So here's what I said, really fast, here's what I said on Saturday: 'We're closely following the terrible events unfolding in Charlottesville, Virginia' -- this is me speaking. 'We condemn in the strongest, possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence.' That's me speaking on Saturday."
This is what he actually said (italics/bolding mine): "We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence, on many sides. On many sides. It's been going on for a long time in our country. Not Donald Trump, not Barack Obama. This has been going on for a long, long time."
Which is not the same thing. At all.
11. "I think I can't do much better, right?"
No, you could have done much, much better. Just ask your own party -- the vast majority of which condemned your Charlottesville comments. Also, Trump is always doing great!
12. "I hope they're showing how many people are in this room, but they won't"
[narrator voice]: They were.
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13. "I call them anarchists. Because, believe me, we have plenty of anarchists. They don't want to talk about the anarchists."
Believe me, I know anarchists. The best anarchists. Bigly.
14. "If you're reading a story about somebody, you don't know. You assume it's honest, because it's like the failing New York Times, which is like so bad. It's so bad."
I have no idea what Trump's point is here. But MAN, the New York Times is failing, right?!?!?
15. "Or the Washington Post, which I call a lobbying tool for Amazon, OK, that's a lobbying tool for Amazon."
Amazon doesn't own the Washington Post. Jeff Bezos does.
16. "Or CNN, which is so bad and so pathetic, and their ratings are going down."
I'll just leave this here.
17. "I mean, CNN is really bad, but ABC this morning -- I don't watch it much, but I'm watching in the morning, and they have little George Stephanopoulos talking to Nikki Haley, right? Little George."
A few things: 1. Trump watches TV constantly. 2. "Little George": Trump as bully-in-chief.
18. "I didn't say I love you because you're black, or I love you because you're white, or I love you because you're from Japan, or you're from China, or you're from Kenya, or you're from Scotland or Sweden. I love all the people of our country."
Interesting that he name-checked Kenya here.
19. "How about -- how about all week they're talking about the massive crowds that are going to be outside. Where are they? Well, it's hot out. It is hot. I think it's too warm."
It was warm! (105 or so.) But, again, multiple media reports -- including CNN's -- show that there were thousands of protesters.
20. "You know, they show up in the helmets and the black masks, and they've got clubs and they've got everything -- Antifa!"
My favorite line of the speech -- especially "Antifa!" which Trump shouts. (Also, you must watch this until the end. Trust me.)
21. "Then I said, racism is evil. Do they report that I said that racism is evil?"
[narrator voice]: They did.
22. "Now they only choose, you know, like a half a sentence here or there and then they just go on this long rampage, or they put on these real lightweights all around a table that nobody ever heard of, and they all say what a bad guy I am."
This was the second paragraph of CNN's story about Trump's August 14 statement on Charlottesville:
"Racism is evil -- and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans," Trump said in response to the attacks in Charlottesville, Virginia, over the weekend.
23. "But, I mean do you ever see anything -- and then you wonder why CNN is doing relatively poorly in the ratings"
See #16.
24. "But with me, they wanted me to say it, and I said it. And I said it very clearly, but they refused to put it on."
The issue was that Trump said -- on Saturday, August 12, and then again on Tuesday, August 15 -- that the violence and hate on display in Charlottesville was "on many sides" and then that "both sides" were responsible for it. And, the news media didn't condemn Trump for that; it was his own party who did that.
25. "I hit him with neo-Nazi. I hit them with everything. I got the white supremacists, the neo-Nazi. I got them all in there, let's say. KKK, we have KKK. I got them all."
This is revealing in a way Trump doesn't mean it to be. He views the naming of the KKK and the neo-Nazis who were responsible for this violence as a box-checking exercise. I said their names -- so what's the problem?! (Of course,Trump didn't call out these groups in his initial statement on Saturday, which was the problem.)
26. "So then the last one, on Tuesday -- Tuesday I did another one: 'We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence. It has no place in America.'
Trump was actually quoting from his Saturday remarks in these Tuesday comments. And, in that same August 15 press conference, he said this: "I think there's blame on both sides. You look at -- you look at both sides. I think there's blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don't have any doubt about it either."
27. "So that was my words."
Over 2,000 of them in fact. All dedicated to rewriting what he actually said about Charlottesville.
28. "Now, you know, I was a good student. I always hear about the elite. You know, the elite. They're elite? I went to better schools than they did. I was a better student than they were. I live in a bigger, more beautiful apartment, and I live in the White House, too, which is really great."
Always remember this fundamental truth about Trump: He has always felt like the guy on the outside looking in, the guy people wouldn't accept in their social circles and wouldn't let into their club. Stuffing it in all of their faces is the primal motivation for everything in his life. Hence all the bragging about what he has and what he's done. Related: Trump and Ric Flair have a lot in common -- including the hair.
29. "The words were perfect. They only take out anything they can think of, and for the most part, all they do is complain. But they don't put on those words. And they don't put on me saying those words."
Trump is not sorry. Not ever. He has convinced himself that what he said initially about Charlottesville was "perfect." And, I realize this may be getting repetitive, but the media reported every word Trump said about Charlottesville. Period. The end.
30. "And yes, by the way -- and yes, by the way, they are trying to take away our history and our heritage. You see that."
This is demagogic language from Trump about the media. "They" are trying to rob us of "our history and our heritage." You don't have to look very hard to see racial and ethnic coding in that language.
31. "I really think they don't like our country. I really believe that."
Trump's claim that the media doesn't "like" America is hugely offensive. Offensive and dangerous. Imagine ANY other president saying anything close to this -- and what the reaction would be.
32. "Look back there, the live red lights. They're turning those suckers off fast out there. They're turning those lights off fast."
[narrator voice]: They weren't.
33. "CNN does not want its falling viewership to watch what I'm saying tonight, I can tell you."
See #16.
34. "If I don't have social media, I probably would not be standing."
Same.
35. "They'll say, 'Donald Trump is in a Twitter-storm.' These are sick people."
Your guess is as good as mine.
36. "You would think -- you would think they'd want to make our country great again, and I honestly believe they don't. I honestly believe it."
The media, in Trump's telling, is rooting against the country. Let me say again: Rhetoric like this is offensive, dishonest and dangerous.
37. "The New York Times essentially apologized after I won the election, because their coverage was so bad, and it was so wrong, and they were losing so many subscribers that they practically apologized."
[narrator voice] They didn't.
38. "I must tell you, Fox has treated me fairly. Fox treated me fairly."
"I am watching two clown announcers on @FoxNews as they try to build up failed presidential candidate #LittleMarco. Fox News is in the bag!" -- Donald Trump, March 2016
39. "How good is Hannity? How good is Hannity? And he's a great guy, and he's an honest guy. And 'Fox and Friends in the Morning' is the best show, and it's the absolute, most honest show, and it's the show I watch."
Simple truth: Trump likes Hannity and "Fox and Friends" because they say nice things about him. He likes people who like him.
40. "Oh, those cameras are going off. Wow. That's the one thing, they're very nervous to have me on live television."
[narrator voice] They weren't. And, they aren't.
41. "I'm a person that wants to tell the truth. I'm an honest person, and what I'm saying, you know is exactly right."
According to the Washington Post, Trump has made more than 1,000 misstatements since being sworn in as president on January 20.
42. "You've got people outside, but not very many."
He is obsessed with crowd size. Obsessed.
43. "So, was Sheriff Joe convicted for doing his job?"
He was actually convicted for contempt of court after refusing to stop his long-running targeting of Hispanics.
44. "He should have had a jury, but you know what? I'll make a prediction. I think he's going to be just fine, OK?"
The "pardon" tease! Make sure to stay tuned for next week's episode!
45. "It was like 115 degrees. I'm out signing autographs for an hour. I was there. That was a hot day."
It was hot. But I am still very popular. Extremely popular. Believe me.
(And for what it's worth, CNN White House reporter Kevin Liptak emails: "It was 106 degrees and he spent no more than 25 minutes shaking hands.")
46. "But believe me, if we have to close down our government, we're building that wall."
"Let me say it again, no more government shutdowns." -- Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, August 2015
47. "'Extreme vetting' -- I came up with that term."
...he says proudly.
48. "And we have to speak to Mitch and we have to speak to everybody."
Trump hasn't spoken to McConnell in weeks.
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49. "But, you know, they all said, Mr. President, your speech was so good last night, please, please, Mr. President don't mention any names. So I won't. I won't. No I won't vote -- one vote away, I will not mention any names. Very presidential, isn't' it? Very presidential."
This is Trump taking a shot at John McCain, who is currently battling brain cancer, for voting against the repeal and replace health care legislation. It's also Trump showing how closely he reads press coverage and how he likes to openly flout suggestions of being more "presidential."
50. "And nobody wants me to talk about your other senator, who's weak on borders, weak on crime, so I won't talk about him. Nobody wants me to talk about him. Nobody knows who the hell he is."
Jeff Flake is a sitting Republican senator. Trump is running him down in his home state at a campaign rally less than a week removed from touting one of his primary challengers on Twitter.
51. "Did you see Gruber got fired yesterday? He got fired because he defrauded somebody or something. Something very bad happened. Check it out. Something happened."
Jonathan Gruber didn't get "fired." The Vermont attorney general's office settled a case with him after a two-plus year investigation into whether he had committed billing fraud.
52. "One vote -- speak to your senator, please. Speak to your senator."
McCain cast one of the deciding votes on health care. But he's not going to name names!
53. "I think we've gotten more than anybody, including Harry Truman, who was number one, but they will tell you we've got none."
This claim is -- wait for it -- not entirely true.
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54. "But Kim Jong Un, I respect the fact that I believe he is starting to respect us. I respect that fact very much. Respect that fact."
Respect. That. Fact.
55. "I don't believe that any president has accomplished as much as this president in the first six or seven months. I really don't believe it."
Trump believes that by saying things, he wills them into existence and truth.
He doesn't.
56. "They're trying to take away our culture. They are trying to take away our history."
[dog whistle]
57. "So I think we'll end up probably terminating NAFTA at some point, OK? Probably."
Way to throw a major policy pronouncement into the end of a speech while negotiations are ongoing!
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/23/politics/ ... index.html
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: Trump Declares War on the Republican Party Tonight

Postby crikkett » Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:44 pm

That seems sparsely attended

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Re: Trump Declares War on the Republican Party Tonight

Postby 82_28 » Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:59 pm



Funnily enough, I was going to add "crickets" to that but figured it would chirp on its own. I guess it takes a crikkett to know one! :eeyaa
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Re: Trump Declares War on the Republican Party Tonight

Postby Iamwhomiam » Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:23 pm

^^^ Ha!

It all a matter of perspective. Some have a narrow focus and see the scene like this:

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or this:

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And some, rare though they be, see the whole picture as it really is:


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Re: Trump Declares War on the Republican Party Tonight

Postby norton ash » Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:26 pm

So, is, like, this guy running for the school board or city council or something? Looks like a minor event.
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