Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

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Postby 82_28 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:45 am

I decided to dick around to see what (if any) significance the floor the shooter was on (the 32nd) might have. I found this (as per 8bit's OJ tip):

The universe has been graced with thousands of so-called "evil" entities during its existance. Many people have differing opinions of just what is "evil", and depending on who you ask you could get quite a few answers: Satan, Hitler, Ganondorf, Osama Bin Laden, Sideshow Bob, the Joker, Courtney Love, Captain Crunch... however, all of these answers pale in comparison to one particularly malevolent force; the number 32.

32's inherent evil first came to my attention on the old BitForums. Back in the days of old, BitF had its fair share of spammers and trolls. Many of them are not at all worth wasting time bringing up, however two users in particular shared a disturbing similarity: Porkyminch32 (who posted porn into his sig and was allegedly banned from every site he ever joined) and Nintendoman32 (who stalked both Eltrotraw and Metaknight4ever). Both were notorious spammers who had quite a reign of terror on the boards, wreaking much havoc and generally making BitF a worse place by being present. Both had 32 in their usernames, and it was then that I began to grow suspicious. My suspicions grew to a boiling point when BitF made the switch from eBlah to vBulletin when former site host PZT, who was notorious for abusing his administrative powers (hijacking polls, editing user profiles, etc), registered on these boards and ended up as user number 32. On this April Fools Day, BitF was temporarily shut down by Nintendo of America in place of comic number 232, truly a sad day for BitF-ers until the legal protection of parody allowed the site to remain afloat. Comic number 132 was rather grim, showing King Dedede terrified of his imminent death and getting more and more tense, only to be horrified by a cruel prank pulled by Metaknight. Comic 32 showed off quite possibly the cruelest Dance Dance Revolution dance ever.

From that you can probably tell that 32 isn't exactly a great number for Brawl in the Family. 32 has left quite an impact upon the boards, but sadly most users seem to not have noticed. 32 hasn't solely ravaged our site, though; 32 has left quite a huge mark upon the world itself. For example:

Multiple instances of 32
Jesus' death is traditionally said to be during the year 32 AD. His age at the time is sometimes questioned, but 32 is one of the possibilities.
OJ Simpson's football jersey number was 32. He had a total of 332 carries in his career. Interestingly Wikipedia lists 31 different programs under his filmography, and he is currently serving 33 years in prison, and the average of those two figures is 32. The timeframe of the murders he committed was between 10:15 and 10:40 PM, making 10:32 PM a perfectly viable candidate.
Magic Johnson's basketball jersey number was 32: He contracted AIDS and pre-emptively retired. He returned two more times, and on his third basketball career retired for the third time, which was during his second return to the sport (third, second... three, then two... 32) after 32 games.
Germanium, element 32: if it is used in wiring, over time it develops "whiskers" which often lead to electrical shorts. Along with this, when used as a nutritional supplement, it causes potential human health hazards.
Singular instances of 32
Russian Scientists have predicted that an asteroid, named Apophis, will strike the earth in the year 2032 and kill millions if not wipe out all life on earth
Ludwig von Beethoven completed 32 numbered piano sonatas. He died not long after completing his 32nd.
The Virginia Tech Massacre on April 16, 2007 resulted in 32 people killed
The Virtual Boy, Nintendo's infamous flop of a video game system, was a 32-bit system.
Sega's 32X add-on was a flop, and the standalone version, the Neptune, was aborted. Both 32-bit systems.
Nidoran M, Kanto and National Pokemon #32, is a poison type with poison so deadly that one touch of its barbs is potentially fatal to humans
Spinarak, Johto Pokemon #32, is a poisonous spider pokemon
Surskit, Hoenn Pokemon #32, has a unique typing of Bug/Water... tragically it evolves into yet another worthless Bug/Flying
Graveller, Sinnoh Pokemon #32, is a nuisance in late game caves and has been for four sets of Pokemon games straight. If you don't choose to run away, often times it'll explode in your face.
1932 (for even more stuff that hasn't been posted, check this page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1932), where I found most of these incidents)
Hitler was naturalized and became a German citizen, allowing him to run for President of Germany
On March 14, George Eastman, the founder of Kodak, committed suicide
Ghandi was arrested by the British
over 6 million people in Germany are unemployed, over 14 million people in America are unemployed
The British submarine HMS M2 sinks with all 60 hands inside
Charles Lindbergh Jr, infant son of Charles Lindbergh, kidnapped... 10 weeks later he is found dead
Four people are killed when police fire upon 3,000 unemployed autoworkers marching outside the Ford River Rouge Plant in Dearborn, Michigan.
Massive riots between Hindus and Muslims in Bombay leave thousands dead and injured.
Herbert Hoover uses the US Army to force the Bonus Army (WWI veterans demanding the bonus payments they were promised) out of Washington DC
Bloody Sunday
Nobel Peace Prize not awarded during this tumultuous year
Notable people dead at 32
Brian Epstein, manager of The Beatles.
Keith Moon, drummer of The Who
Bruce Lee, martial artist, screenwriter, film director and producer
Brittany Murphy, actress


Considering all of this (and this isn't all there is, there is more evidence unlisted as well!), I'm not surprised that the highest number of days in a month is 31. From my own personal experience, I can attest to 32's evil. Forget whatever you previously thought was evil, because 32 is far worse. Deny it all you want, you'll only be blinding yourself to the truth!


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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:57 pm

leaving at least 58 people dead and more than 515 others injured


The horrifying events in Las Vegas on Sunday night mark the 273rd mass shooting in 2017 worse in U.S. history*


*except for that Native American thing


First 9 months of 2017:
-11,572 gun deaths
-23,365 gun injuries
-273 mass shootings
-1,508 unintentional shootings
-2,971 kids/teens shot
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They could still get him out of office.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:34 pm

semper occultus » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:42 am wrote:OK so the "you're all going to die" woman is NOT Marilou Danley who wasn't even in the country at the time and....

no military background apparently but tenuous link to the MIC

He may have worked as an internal auditor at Lockheed Martin for some time, and managed an apartment building complex in Mesquite, Texas.

Paddock was also the son of Benjamin Hoskins Paddock, a serial bank robber who ended up on the FBI Most Wanted list back in 1969 when he escaped from federal prison in Texas while serving a 20 years sentence. The FBI kept him on the list for the next eight years but he was never found. The agency said that the fugitive had been 'diagnosed as psychopathic' and also had possible 'suicidal tendencies.'


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4940918/Details-Las-Vegas-shooting-suspect-Stephen-Paddock.html


Thanks for that link, semper occultus. Here's some more info:

Las Vegas shooter's father, 'Bingo Bruce,' lived colorful life of crime and deception

By Greg Norman, Fox News

The father of the gunman behind the deadliest shooting in modern U.S. history robbed a string of banks in Arizona, escaped prison in Texas and tried to start a new life as the manager of a bingo parlor in Oregon, according to historical newspaper articles.

Eric, the brother of Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock, who killed at least 50 people from his hotel room at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino late Sunday, told the Orlando Sentinel that their father was Benjamin Hoskins Paddock.

The elder Paddock, born in Wisconsin in 1926, had a host of other fake names and nicknames, including “Big Daddy” and “Old Baldy," and was on the FBI’s Top Ten Most Wanted list from 1969 to 1977.

Paddock was indicted in 1960 on three counts of robbing Phoenix branches of Valley National Bank, the Arizona Republic reported on Oct. 6 that year. He was accused of stealing close to $25,000 and was caught in the summer of 1960 by FBI agents after returning to Arizona from Las Vegas.

The 6-foot-4, 245-pound Paddock was convicted and slapped with a 20-year prison sentence, but the lengthy jail term was cut short when he busted out of a federal prison in Texas in 1969, the Eugene Register-Guard reported.

An escaped federal prisoner poster issued by the FBI at the time said Paddock was “diagnosed as psychopathic” and “reportedly has suicidal tendencies and should be considered armed and dangerous.”

About six months after the escape, Paddock was involved in an armed robbery at a bank in San Francisco and was awaiting trial related to charges from that incident on Oct. 6, 1978, according to the Oregon newspaper.

Paddock, described by the FBI as being an “avid bridge player,” had managed to live a secret life centered on another game --bingo -- as a parlor manager in Springfield, Ore.

The FBI said Paddock lived for years in the Eugene-Springfield area under the alias of Bruce Werner Ericksen and managed to stay one step ahead of law enforcement by constantly changing his appearance and avoiding contact with police, which may have resulted in fingerprinting, the Eugene Register-Guard reported.

The man dubbed by the newspaper as “Bingo Bruce” appeared to have run out of luck in 1978 when he was arrested, but the feds paroled him and he was back in the number-calling game just a year later.

“He was a nice guy, and helped a lot of people financially and did one hell of a lot for the kids,” former Junction City Mayor Chuck Ivey, who was on the parole board, told the newspaper.

“All that stuff is old news,” Ivey said when he asked about Paddock’s past.

In 1987, the gig finally ended when the Oregon Attorney General’s Office filed seven racketeering charges against Paddock related to his bingo operation. On top of that, he was charged with rolling back car odometers.

Paddock settled the racketeering charges for $623,000 and pleaded no contest to the odometer case, while simultaneously claiming he had cancer.

Among his other life claims: being an auto crew racing chief, Chicago Bears football player and survivor of a World War II mine sweeper sinking, according to the Eugene Register-Guard.

When the final verdict in Paddock’s legal saga came in, and Circuit Judge George Woodrich decided to let him off with a $100,000 fine and no jail time.

“He could be conning everybody, but this is an economic crime and he’s an old man,” the newspaper quoted Woodrich as saying. “My view is let him go… and good riddance.”

Paddock then went back to the Lone Star state and lived there until his death in 1998. Laurel Paulson, a woman he met while living in Oregon, told the Eugene Register-Guard that he got by on a VA pension and helped her run a machine shop.

“He was a man that people either loved or hated,” she said. “He always said he was a dinosaur.”
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:57 pm

State law in Nevada defines the Las Vegas shooting as an act of terrorism, because the shooter was clearly trying to target as many people as possible in a public setting.





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BENJAMIN “CHROMEDOME” PADDOCK Ex-Tucsonian Makes FBI List Of 10 Most Wanted By GILBERT T. MATTHEWS Citizen Staff Writer Known to his associates as “Chromedome,” “Old Baldy,” and “Big Daddy,” Benjamin Hoskins Paddock is Tucson’s contribution to the FBI’s list of 10 most-wanted fugitives. He made the list after escaping on Dec. 31, 1968, from the Federal Correctional Institution at La Tuna, Tex., where he was serving a 20-year sentence for robbing a Phoenix bank in 1960. Paddock — alias Perry Archer, Benjamin J. Butler, Leo Genstein, Pat Paddock and Patrick Benjamin Paddock — hasn’t been seen or heard from since. At the time of the robbery, Paddock lived in Tucson with his wife and four children. Neighbors said they couldn’t believe that the colorful businessman, then 34 years old, was involved in crime. Paddock sold garbage disposal units here under the business name of Arizona Disposer “Chromedome” Co. He called himself “Big Daddy” in connection with a night club operation on North 1st Avenue. Before selling the disposal units, he operated an East Broadway service station and also sold used cars. Although he was imprisoned for the S4,620 holdup of a branch of the Valley National Bank in Phoenix, Paddock also had been accused of two other bank robberies. Those charges were dropped after his conviction. Federal officers reported that when he was arrested in Las Vegas, Paddock attempted to run down an FBI agent with his car. “Since he has utilized firearms in previous crimes, has employed violence in attempting to evade arrest and has been diagnosed as being psychopathic, Paddock should be considered extremely dangerous,” said Palmer M. Baken Jr., agent in charge of the Phoenix FBI office. Baker described Paddock as being “A glib, smooth-talking man who is egotistical and arrogant.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby 82_28 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:53 pm

Americans Hopeful This Will Be Last Mass Shooting Before They Stop On Their Own For No Reason

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WASHINGTON—Expressing a sense of guarded optimism that the latest incident of gun violence that left 58 dead and 500 injured in Las Vegas would be a turning point for the nation, Americans across the country confirmed Monday they were hopeful this would be the last mass shooting before all such occurrences stopped on their own for no reason at all. “After something as horrific as what happened in Las Vegas, we’re all just hoping that now these terrible shootings will stop once and for all without circumstances changing in any way or any of us taking even the slightest amount of action in response,” said Harrisburg, PA resident David Snyder, echoing the sentiments of tens of millions of citizens from coast to coast who told reporters they were confident that, after living through the most deadly mass shooting in modern American history and taking no material steps to change gun laws, reevaluate safety standards, increase access to mental health care, or even have a national conversation about how mass shootings could be avoided in the future, tragedies of this kind would at long last come to an end. “Having seen acts of violence like this happen over and over again for years now, I’m really holding out hope that, despite every single factor that allowed them to occur remaining exactly the same, we won’t have to live through another day like today. I know everyone’s praying this will finally be the time this issue just disappears forever entirely by itself without anyone doing anything.” At press time, Americans nationwide agreed that years of taking no measures whatsoever to prevent mass shootings may finally be paying off.


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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby km artlu » Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:01 pm

WaPo:
The gunman was found with more than 10 rifles, Lombardo said, and he brought them all inside himself.
(Lombardo identified as "Sheriff Lombardo")

As the alleged shooter is dead, how is the method of transporting the weapons known? I'd be interested if evidence corroborating that statement shows up, such as a cover story told to a bellman about preparing for a gun show, etc.

Without such evidence, it seems a questionable official statement.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:06 pm

So as usual nobody has a sniff of a clue of any believable motive for the person they killed and then convicted of these murders: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... -massacre/

As usual, we have no reason to believe what we are told. But I guess pinning this on a totally random cipher is better than pinning it on tiny Muslim woman or a Bernie Sanders supporter.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby chump » Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:07 pm

https://lasvegassun.com/youre-being-watched/
YOU'RE BEING WATCHED
Inside Las Vegas' Surveillance Culture

By Jackie Valley | October 5, 2014

Surveillance cameras are mounted to traffic poles, attached to store ceilings and doorways and put in the hands of anyone who owns a smartphone. Thousands watch us drive to work, shop and play. Casinos snap pictures of our license plates as we drive through their garages, and stores ply us with coupons loaded onto royalty cards to track our habits, likes and dislikes.

Businesses and governments worldwide will pour $15.9 billion this year into surveillance cameras, gadgets they say are integral to thwarting crime and competing economically. Technology has made them smaller, clearer and more plentiful than ever.

It’s no surprise, then, that expansive surveillance efforts have raised eyebrows. Amid wiretapping and data leaks, people wonder: How much surveillance is too much? And how much privacy can we expect?

“It’s a hot topic,” said Hanni Fakhoury, an attorney at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a nonprofit group dedicated to protecting civil liberties in the digital age. “The broader issues are in the public marketplace.”

While the idea of surveillance might make many Americans squeamish, it’s seemingly no big deal across the Atlantic. In the United Kingdom, cameras have long been a part of life. London’s so-called “ring of steel,” a surveillence permiter installed in the 1990s to address security concerns, boasts as many as 500,000 cameras surrounding the city.

“America is very careful about privacy and where these images are going,” said Paul Everett, research director for security at IHS, a research company that studies security. “In the U.K., they’re over that hump and accept that it’s there and used.”...

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... An officer scans Las Vegas Boulevard from an office chair 5 miles away. Using keystrokes and a mouse, he zooms in on a bucket of Coors beer.

While police don’t care what beverage you’re enjoying, surveillance cameras installed last year on the Strip allow law enforcement to watch over the resort corridor.
Last year, 37 surveillance cameras were installed along Las Vegas Boulevard ... The overt, pan-tilt-zoom cameras attach to traffic poles and casino roofs and provide law enforcement with surprisingly clear footage of tourists traipsing up and down the boulevard. The footage is stored for 14 days.

In some ways, it’s the future of policing: leveraging technology to put more eyes on the streets.

“It’s a force multiplier for us,” said Patrick Baldwin, manager of Southern Nevada’s Counterterrorism Center.

Last year, 37 surveillance cameras were installed along Las Vegas Boulevard, from Russell Road to Sahara Avenue, with money from a $350,000 federal grant. The overt, pan-tilt-zoom cameras attach to traffic poles and casino roofs and provide law enforcement with surprisingly clear footage of tourists traipsing up and down the boulevard. The footage is stored for 14 days.

Police said footage has helped detectives solve stabbings and beatings and opened their eyes to crimes targeting tourists.

“I don’t really know if we had a handle on how extensive three-card monte scams were on the Strip” before the cameras, Baldwin said.
In the coming months, Metro plans to launch a pilot program that would allow officers to view camera footage from inside private businesses, such as convenience stores and fast-food restaurants.

Officers staffing the real-time crime center — the department’s name for the camera operations hub — must follow the same rules that apply to police in the field, Baldwin said. That means they’re prohibited from focusing on attractive tourists or following someone’s movements without reason.

“Everything we’ve done up here, we’ve met with the ACLU about,” Baldwin said.

With additional grant money on the horizon, Metro is working to determine where more camera coverage would be helpful, such as at the Linq and north end of the Strip, Sgt. Sophia Kypreos said. An exact number of new cameras hasn’t been decided.

In the coming months, Metro also plans to launch a pilot program that would allow officers to view camera footage from inside private businesses, such as convenience stores and fast-food restaurants, if an employee activates a burglar or panic alarm. Police would be alerted and officers could pull up footage from the business’s camera system. The video feed wouldn’t be viewable all the time. Baldwin said the technology could give police an edge in identifying suspects and providing information to officers en route.

The department also has three mobile-platform cameras — visible, clearly-labeled cameras that can be moved anywhere officers want an extra set of eyes. In August, the cameras were used to monitor a parking lot at Sahara Avenue and Las Vegas Boulevard and a crime-ridden apartment complex where a shooting had occurred. The mobile cameras afford authorities a high degree of flexibility during special events or if a known threat arises, Baldwin said...

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... If you drive a car to a casino, they know. If you browse the Web on your phone at a casino, they know. If you love baccarat but hate blackjack, chances are, they know that, too.

The age of anonymity is largely extinct in casinos these days, thanks to rapidly evolving technology and surveillance teams tasked with keeping resorts safe from criminals and cheats. Most Strip casinos operate at least 2,000 surveillance cameras on property, said George Joseph, a casino surveillance consultant and former director of surveillance at Bally’s.

Ted Whiting, director of surveillance at Aria, shows off a prototype card recognition program at the casino Tuesday, Sept. 16, 2014. Credit: Steve Marcus

The “eyes in the sky” have become much smaller and more discreet, blending in with casino interiors to give surveillance operators a bird’s-eye view of the floor or a close-up shot of someone’s face.

“What has really changed is that casinos have 100 percent coverage of virtually every square inch,” Joseph said.

But there’s a catch: Casinos don’t have anywhere near the manpower needed to watch every live feed. Less than 2 percent of footage is viewed live, Joseph said.

So how do surveillance teams catch cheats and advantage players?

“We look for anomalies in human behavior and anomalies in data,” said Ted Whiting, director of surveillance at Aria, which houses about 3,000 cameras.

In a basement room with 24 TV wall monitors, Aria surveillance operators pore over footage from high-definition cameras, 360-degree-view cameras, pinhole cameras, infrared cameras and license-plate recognition cameras. Aria stores the digital recordings for at least seven days.

Surveillance operators can retrieve footage and review play when someone wins big, or floor bosses can tip off the surveillance center to suspicious activity.

As a general rule, casinos are more interested in what you’re doing than who you are, meaning hands and feet are more important than faces — at least for now.

Whiting teaches his staff to pinpoint people of interest by watching how they walk and noticing their shoes. He reasons it’s easier for crooks to slap on a dress shirt and jacket than take the time to buy or steal nice footwear.

“The guys who are here to steal your purse and your slot ticket have nasty shoes,” Whiting said.

Many casinos, including Aria, don’t use facial-recognition technology, but Whiting said he expects that to change within the next 18 months as technology advances.

Joseph said he first tested facial-recognition software in 1994 at Bally’s. The computer program created a mathematical grid of a person’s facial features. But what had worked well in controlled environments, such as at motor vehicle departments, didn’t pan out. The problem: Casino cameras couldn’t capture enough straight shots of people’s faces.

“Facial recognition is a technology, not a science,” said Joseph, owner of Worldwide Casino Consulting. “But it is a really useful tool.”

Another surveillance pitfall: “It’s easy with one camera to follow a person,” Whiting said. “But the hard thing is to stick 50 cameras together and do that throughout the whole casino floor. But that’s the future and that’s going to happen.”

Loss-prevention efforts also extend to the back of the house, with cameras monitoring employee and vendor activities in nonpublic areas to catch people stealing food or other items, Joseph said.
"They know which games you prefer, what food you like to eat, when you like to visit, and whether you would like standup comedy, ’80s rock concerts, or shows where transvestites lip-synch while pretending to be Cher, Dolly Parton or Madonna."

- Adam Tanner, “What Stays in Vegas"

“You save more money in those areas than you ever do in table games,” he said.

And when cameras aren’t watching you, computers are.

Adam Tanner, author of “What Stays in Vegas,” spent a year studying Caesars Entertainment’s data collection efforts. Caesars’ customer loyalty program assigns patrons a number that tracks their activities.

“If you sign up, which the overwhelming majority of clients do, Caesars records how much you typically wager in a day, to the penny if you play electronic games such as slot machines,” Tanner writes. “They know which games you prefer, what food you like to eat, when you like to visit, and whether you would like standup comedy, ’80s rock concerts, or shows where transvestites lip-synch while pretending to be Cher, Dolly Parton or Madonna.

“Your personal file may note if you have a favorite hostess at Caesars Palace, whether you prefer the six-foot-tall comely blonde or the diminutive hostess who speaks Chinese.”

As for how casinos will track guests decades from now — that’s anyone’s guess. This kind of technology advances at near lightning speed. Whiting said the electronics housed in the Aria surveillance center are outdated. They are five years old...

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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:13 pm

59 dead 527 injured

16 guns in the hotel room

18 guns in the home
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby LolaB » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:23 pm

And then there is this element:

http://theduran.com/las-vegas-shooting-has-eerie-parallels-to-a-recent-attack-that-the-media-wont-tell-you-about/

The recent deadly attack in Las Vegas is shockingly similar to one that happened in Manila exactly four months ago.

... On the 2nd of June, 2017, the Resorts World casino, hotel and leisure centre in Manila was terrorised by a lone gunman in what many suspected was an ISIS attack. This attack, when accounting for local time-zone differences, occurred exactly four months prior to the recent shooting in Las Vegas.

.... There are some eerie similarities to the attacks in Manila and Las Vegas. In both cases, local men acted alone in a clearly premeditated attack which took place on the grounds of a hotel/casino. In Manila, the shooting took place partly on the casino floor and into hotel areas and in Las Vegas, the killer fired on his victims at an outdoor music concert from his window in a room at the Mandalay Bay hotel and casino.

In both instances, ISIS claimed responsibility shortly after the attack, although local authorities in both Philippines and now the US, instantly refuted such claims.

Ultimately, both killers had a profile which did not match that of a typical young, violent radial ISIS recruit. Instead, both men had decent jobs not long before the incident. Both men had a relatively large gambling habit and in the case of the Vegas shooter, he apparently enjoyed the country and western style music that was being played at the concert whose audience he massacred. Likewise, both men worked in jobs related to the public sector. Carlos was a tax collector in Philippines and Paddock worked for a company that later became Lockheed-Marin, one of America’s biggest defence contractors.


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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby JackRiddler » Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:08 pm

The WaPo report is fascinating actually. Can you see on it the only identifiable employer he ever had? Everything else is a vague thing about having been an accountant and having invested well in real estate. Then he's got money up the wazoo, nowhere near superrich but always fluid, and is only interested in leaving the house for Vegas hotels where he plays poker all the time at high stakes claiming hundreds of thousands in winning while the lady friend does the slots and gets to see all the Vegas circuit acts, Elton John, whatevs. (Source: The Lady Friend's FB page, which I saved yesterday within minutes of her name first being broadcast. Now taken down, of course.)

While he has the "closed book" personality, the profile is highly unusual for a mass shooter. Can't think of a one who had these kinds of assets. Middle class, sure. The lifestyle, two private planes and a fucking proper arsenal - 10 guns in the room, another bunch at home - the one regular job he's known to have ever had (with a NOT international terrorist org, damn it) and the dough always rolling. Let's assume for the moment this is his real life as described. Does it not strongly resemble the profile of a spook who made his bones well enough and set himself up for this life as his retirement?

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Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock was a high-stakes gambler who 'kept to himself' before massacre
By William Wan, Sandhya Somashekhar, Aaron C. Davis and Barbara Liston October 2 at 1:10 PM

Before he opened fire late Sunday, killing at least 58 people at a country music festival on the Las Vegas Strip, gunman Stephen Paddock was living out his retirement as a high-stakes gambler in a quiet town outside Las Vegas.

Paddock, 64, would disappear for days at a time, frequenting casinos with his longtime girlfriend, neighbors said. Relatives also said Paddock had frequently visited Las Vegas to gamble and take in concerts.

Eric Paddock said his brother often gambled in tens of thousands of dollars. “My brother is not like you and me. He plays high-stakes video poker,” he said. “He sends me a text that says he won $250,000 at the casino.”

Eric Paddock said he showed the FBI three years of text messages from his brother and said he had no information whether Stephen Paddock had gambling debts or was financially troubled. “I have absolutely no information he lost a bunch of money. The casino would know that,” he said.

Eric Paddock said his brother previously worked as an accountant but also had real estate investments, including houses and apartments around Orlando. He said Stephen Paddock had no kids and plenty of money to play with.

Eric Paddock said he did not know of any mental illness, alcohol or drug problems in his brother’s life.

Their father was once on the FBI’s Ten Most Wanted list. He was a fugitive bank robber and rarely around for either son. “I was born on the run,” said Eric Paddock.

[Stephen Paddock’s father was a bank robber — and on the FBI’s Most Wanted list]

He knew his brother owned a couple of handguns but was shocked at the rapid-fire weapon apparently used by Stephen Paddock in Las Vegas. He said his brother didn’t hunt, barely shot his guns and once took Eric Paddock’s children on a skeet-shooting trip paid for by the casinos.


Eric Paddock spoke in his driveway as he was getting in his car to go with FBI agents to interview his mother, who is in her 90s and who appears to have been the last family member to communicate with Stephen Paddock, about two weeks ago. Eric Paddock said his brother last texted him five days after Hurricane Irma hit Orlando to check if anyone in the family had been affected. “He texted and said, ‘How’s Mom?’,” Eric Paddock said.

He said their mother was bewildered, like he was, why Stephen Paddock had shot and killed so many on Sunday.

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“We know nothing. If you told me an asteroid fell it would mean the same to me. There’s absolutely no sense, no reason he did this,” he said, earlier. “He’s just a guy who played video poker and took cruises and ate burritos at Taco Bell. There’s no political affiliation that we know of. There’s no religious affiliation that we know of.”

For several years, the gunman lived with his girlfriend, Marilou Danley, in a retirement community in Reno, Nev., neighbors said. They said they interacted with Danley but not with Paddock, whom they described as extremely standoffish. Danley told residents there that Paddock was a professional gambler, explaining their long absences from the neighborhood.

Called Del Webb, the neighborhood is a relatively new active-adult community of single-family homes with desert views and a clubhouse with a gym and pool.

Harold Allred, who lives up the street from the couple, said his wife often ran into Danley in exercise classes or social gatherings. Allred said he and his wife found Danley unremarkable, though perhaps a little odd, and didn’t know Paddock. “He was reclusive,” said Allred, 66. “We never met him.”

Paddock lived in a number of retirement communities. In addition to the Reno home, Paddock and Danley had another home in Mesquite, Nev., said neighbors. In recent years, he had moved to Nevada from Melbourne, Fla. And he had previously lived in Texas and California, where he had married once and later divorced.

In Reno, Diane McKay lived next door to Paddock and Danley until July, when McKay moved to a different community, but she said she only ran into Danley occasionally when both women happened to be pulling weeds from their front yards. Danley wasn’t forthcoming about her life, and Paddock was aggressively unfriendly, McKay recalled. She only saw him in the mornings, when he went to the clubhouse to work out. Occasionally, he would open the garage door, revealing a large safe the size of a refrigerator. Other than that, the couple kept their blinds closed.

“He was weird. Kept to himself,” said McKay, 79, who described Paddock as small but in pretty good shape. “It was like living next to nothing. . . . You can at least be grumpy, something. He was just nothing, quiet. He never went out in the back and enjoyed the back yard, nature. They had a little back yard, 17 feet to the fence and hill. But the blinds were always closed.”

McKay said the couple was gone for six months last year, which she thought was for a gambling trip.

[At least 50 dead, more than 400 injured after shooting on Las Vegas Strip]

Paddock’s family said there was nothing in his past that would suggest violence. Family members said that Paddock spent much of his retirement in recent years frequenting hotels in Las Vegas. They said he listened to country music and went to concerts at Vegas hotels, similar to the one Sunday night where he opened fire on a crowd of concertgoers.

Public records show Paddock was a licensed pilot who owned two planes. And he had a hunting license from Alaska.

Property records show he had homes in both Mesquite, Tex., and Mesquite in Nevada. He bought his current home in Mesquite, Nev., in 2013, and appears to have been living there ever since.


People tend to the wounded outside the festival grounds after a shooting on Oct. 1 in Las Vegas. (David Becker/Getty Images)
Las Vegas police said authorities searched Paddock’s home in Mesquite, Nev., on Monday morning. Quinn Averett, a spokesman for the Mesquite Police Department, said Paddock was unknown to local authorities in the city 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas. Mesquite police have no recorded interactions with Paddock. Las Vegas police said the same.

Neighbors at his home in Mesquite, Nev., said Paddock did not seem agitated or disturbed in recent days. “I saw Paddock on the golf course about two months ago,” said Luis Rodriguez, a groundskeeper at Conestoga Golf Course, which runs right through the retirement community where Paddock lived. “There was nothing strange about him. He seemed friendly and happy at the time.”

Rodriguez and other groundskeepers were shocked when they woke up to the news and realized they had seen Paddock. They say he played alone and that he would stop and say hello to them on the course.

At a 55-and-over community in Florida, where Paddock had lived for many years, neighbors recalled strange details about his lifestyle.

Don Judy, his next-door neighbor until two years ago, recalled that shortly after Paddock turned 60, Judy saw the inside of his home and was shocked by its appearance. He said it “looked like a college freshman lived there.”

There was no art on the walls, not even a car in the driveway, Judy said, just a dining chair, a bed and two recliners. “It looked like he’d be ready to move at a moment’s notice,” Judy said.

Paddock, however, always seemed on the move, carrying a suitcase and driving a rental car on monthly trips from Vegas to the community near Cocoa Beach.

“One of the first times we met him, he told me he lived there, in Vegas,” said Judy. “He explained that he was a gambler, and a prospector. He said he was buying this house to check it out for his mother . . . and that if she liked it, he planned to buy another next door with a floor plan like ours.”

[Map: How the Las Vegas Strip shooting unfolded]

Paddock’s brother, mother and other family members lived about an hour away in Orlando and would frequently visit, Judy said.

During the two years that Judy lived next door, Paddock never seemed to want for money. A new ShopVac, tools and a never-used ladder appeared in the garage. Paddock and Danley would wave as they left for dinner along the beach.

A little while after living there, Paddock left Judy a key and asked him to keep an eye on the rarely used house — and to borrow any tools he might want. “I thought, wow, this guy’s a good neighbor,” Judy said, who noted no drugs or parties, nothing unusual except for Paddock’s gambling. “They did seem to always stay up till midnight and sleep in till noon. They always seemed to stay on Vegas time.”

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Computers also began appearing on the breakfast bar, and Paddock once boasted to Don and his wife that he’d won $20,000 playing card games over the Internet.

Then, as quickly as he had appeared, Paddock put up a for-sale sign, Judy said. “He never said much about it, just said they were moving back to Vegas,” Judy said.

Sheriff Joseph Lombardo of the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department said, “We have no investigative information or background associated with this individual that is derogatory. . . . The only thing we can tell is he received a citation several years ago, that citation was handled as a matter of normal practice in the court system.”

Authorities said no connection has been found between the gunman and any international terrorist group.

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After the shooting, Paddock was found dead by officers on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino, Lombardo said during a news briefing.

Police believe Paddock was a “lone wolf” attacker. Lombardo did not give further details, however, on Paddock’s background or possible motivation.

“We have no idea what his belief system was,” Lombardo said. “Right now, we believe he was the sole aggressor.”

Paddock, who arrived at the hotel on Thursday, was found with more than 10 rifles, Lombardo said. Relatives said they knew Paddock owned guns but believed they were legal.

On Monday morning, police released a picture of Danley, saying they were searching for her as a person of interest. They later said they she was out of the country, and has been located and detained. Authorities called her a companion of Paddock.

Authorities described Danley as Asian, 4 feet 11 inches tall and weighing 111 pounds.

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In a statement, Lockheed Martin, the defense giant, said that Paddock had worked for it for three years in the 1980s.

“Stephen Paddock worked for a predecessor company of Lockheed Martin from 1985 until 1988,” the company said in a statement. “We’re cooperating with authorities to answer questions they may have about Mr. Paddock and his time with the company.”

The shooting on Sunday was the deadliest mass shooting in modern American history, killing at least 58 people and injuring hundreds.

Julie Tate and Mark Berman in Washington; Heather Long in Mesquite, Nev.; and Justin Glawe in Dallas contributed to this report.

Julie Tate and Mark Berman in Washington; Heather Long in Mesquite, Nev.; and Justin Glawe in Dallas contributed to this report.

Sandhya Somashekhar is the social change reporter for the Washington Post. Follow @sandhyawp

Aaron Davis is a reporter for The Post’s Investigative team. Follow @byaaroncdavis

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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby The Consul » Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:54 am

Anagram for Stephen C Paddock
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OJ Simpson ("joins ms ops")has arrived with ManchuRian gun loving gambler accountant
(See movie "The Accounant" ..."Catch atone nut" )
Just in time to soak up all the necessary distraction.
The insane president suddenly presidential via almost Operation Northwoodsy coinky dinky. Good to have several star general cos. Desperately creative?
The meme being he can't change the president....so
Was the Latino woman wearing a polkadot dress?
How large is the pile they DONT want us to see? Should say piles, or mounds, or mountains
All destined for entertainment.
Tom Petty ("Empty tot") dead not dead - a code. Expect unconfirmed reports of zombies, guessing zombiebanks.
Petty lyrically Related to refugee & confederate flag controversy & won't back down

Just like Donald Trump ("Damp dolt urn").

Everything will be back to normal soon.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby JackRiddler » Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:01 am

Atlantic CIty is way too dead to make as much of a spectacle.

Vice report has some new details - an internal auditor at the Lockheed Martin "predecessor company," he is called. What, is the company's name at the time now forgotten?


https://news.vice.com/story/everything- ... en-paddock

By Keegan Hamilton, Noah Kulwin and Joshua Hersh Oct 2, 2017
Police have identified the gunman responsible for killing at least 59 people and injuring at least 527 more in a shooting late Sunday night in Las Vegas as Stephen Paddock, a 64-year-old man from Mesquite, Nevada. The shooting is the deadliest mass killing in modern U.S. history.

Paddock opened fire from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino on a country music festival taking place across the street on the Vegas Strip. He was found dead from a self-inflicted gunshot when police stormed into his hotel room.

Authorities are still gathering information about Paddock and working to determine his motive, but here’s what we know so far.

Why did he do it?

Paddock’s motive is still unknown. “Right now, we believe it’s a sole actor, a lone-wolf-type actor,” Lombardo, the sheriff, told reporters on Monday. “As far as his history and background, we haven’t completed that part of the investigation yet. We have no idea what his belief system was.”

“We have no idea what his belief system was.”
The Islamic State group issued a statement claiming responsibility for the attack and calling Paddock one of its “soldiers,” but there’s currently no evidence that he had any connection to the terrorist organization.

“As this event unfolds, we have determined to this point no connection with an international terrorist group,” FBI special agent Aaron Rause said Monday.

First Photo of Alleged Las Vegas Shooter Stephen Paddock Released http://bit.ly/2wtykst

["Released" - It's a crop of the FB photo from Marilou's page.]

Where did he get his guns?

Paddock was armed with at least 10 firearms, including a number of long rifles, according to Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo. An unnamed law enforcement official told the Wall Street Journal that investigators found “18 to 20 firearms, some fully automatic” in Paddock’s hotel room, along with “a large cache of ammunition.” The weapons reportedly included “AR-15-style and AK-47-style rifles.”

Authorities say they found an additional 18 guns, thousands of rounds of ammunition and explosives at Paddock’s home and ammonium nitrate in his car.

Paddock purchased at least some of his weapons from Guns & Guitars, a shop in Mesquite, Nevada. The New York Times reported that Paddock bought a handgun and two rifles from the store within the last year. Chris Sullivan, the store’s general manager, confirmed to VICE News that Paddock was a customer and said the sales were legal.

“We mourn for this tragedy and our thoughts and prayers are with the families of the lost and injured,” Sullivan said. “Mr. Paddock was a customer and purchased firearms from our store; however, all necessary background checks and procedures were followed, as required by local, state, and federal law. He never gave any indication or reason to believe he was unstable or unfit at any time. We are currently cooperating with the ongoing investigation by local and federal law enforcement in any way we can.”

Witnesses reported hearing gunfire from an automatic weapon, but some experts have suggested that Paddock may have used a trigger crank, a cheap and legal device that can modify a semi-automatic weapon to fire up to 700 rounds per minute. Sullivan declined to comment on whether Paddock may have modified his rifles to make them fully automatic, but said his store doesn’t sell automatic weapons, “so he either purchased them legally or modified them.”

A spokesman for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives said investigators from the agency’s San Francisco field office are on the scene working with local authorities.

Did he act alone?

All indications are that Paddock was a lone gunman. Police initially identified his longtime girlfriend, 62-year-old Marilou Danley, as a person of interest, but Lombardo said she was interviewed and cleared of any involvement.

Clark County Commission Chair Steve Sisolak said Paddock rented two hotel rooms at Mandalay Bay, one facing north and one facing east, according to the Nevada Independent. The festival venue was located northeast of the casino, across the Las Vegas Strip. Sisolak said Paddock was using Danley’s slot machine card at the casino, but she was in the Philippines when the shooting occurred.


The Department of Homeland Security released a statement that said there’s “no information to indicate a specific credible threat involving other public venues in the country,” but “security in and around public places and events may be experienced as officials take additional precautions.”

Where was he from?

Paddock had lived since 2013 in Mesquite, a town about an hour northeast of Vegas. According to USA Today, he lived in Sun City Mesquite, a retirement community with about 1,400 homes, an 18-hole golf course, and other amenities. Residents must be older than 55, and no children are allowed.

Officers from the Mesquite Police Department raided Paddock’s home Monday morning. Department spokesman Quinn Averett said it was “nice clean home” and there was “nothing out of the ordinary.” Averett said some weapons and ammunition were found, but he did not offer specifics. He said local police had no previous contact with Paddock.

“He lived by gambling. He was very open about that,”
Paddock previously owned a home in Florida, about 120 miles north of West Palm Beach. The Palm Beach Post reports that Paddock owned property on Heritage Isle, a retirement community for people over 55 in Brevard County. Neighbors told the website Florida Today that Paddock only came to the home about five times in the two years he owned it.

“He seemed normal, other than that he lived by gambling. He was very open about that,” neighbor Sharon Judy said. “First time we ever met him, he handed us the key to the house and said, ‘Hey, would you keep an eye on the house? We’re only going to be here every now and then.’”

What did he do for a living?

Public records indicate that Paddock was a licensed pilot in Nevada and California between 2001 and 2010. He previously owned property in in Clark County, Nevada; Los Angeles and San Bernardino counties in California; and in Mesquite, Texas. Public records show he owned two planes. He also had a hunting license in Alaska.

Paddock was previously employed as an apartment complex manager in Mesquite, according to employment records. He also apparently worked as an internal auditor for the aeronautics giant Lockheed Martin in the 1980s.

“Stephen Paddock worked for a predecessor company of Lockheed Martin from 1985 until 1988,” said company spokesman Bill Phelps. “We’re cooperating with authorities to answer questions they may have about Mr. Paddock and his time with the company.”

Unnamed law enforcement sources told NBC News that Paddock had made “several large gambling transactions in recent weeks.” The transactions were reportedly worth tens of thousands of dollars, but NBC’s sources couldn’t say whether Paddock was winning or losing money.

John Katsilometes, a reporter for the Las Vegas Review Journal, cited anonymous sources as saying Paddock was “a well-known VIP gambler at Mandalay Bay,” who “played high-limit video poker, $125 per hand.”

Did anyone see this coming?

There’s no evidence of this yet. Paddock’s brother Eric told the Orlando Sentinel: “We are completely dumbfounded. We can’t understand what happened.” He did not immediately respond to a message left by VICE News.

Eric Paddock also told the Daily Mail that there was “absolutely no indication he could do something like this,” and said his brother had no religious or political affiliation. “He was just a guy,” he said. “Something happened, he snapped or something; he was just a guy.”

Family members said Paddock spent much of his time gambling in Las Vegas. He liked to listen to country music and attend concerts at Vegas hotels, according to the Washington Post.


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A couple of years ago, Paddock hired Wade Hughes, the co-owner of a contracting company in Mesquite, to build a fence around his house. He wanted it to be made out of solid metal, so that no one could see in, but local regulations wouldn’t allow that. The fence was eventually made out of wire mesh.

“He got upset that he had to change it,” Hughes told VICE News. “He seemed like he was kind of an angry guy.”

But like many others who crossed paths with Paddock, Hughes also said there didn’t appear to be anything too unusual about him.

“He was different — a real character,” Hughes said. “But you’ve got to realize we deal with a lot of different people out here — people with some different ideas. So if I was to go back and say, do I remember anything he said that was really off? Well, you get used to people saying weird stuff.”

Hughes added that neighbors around Paddock’s house often noted that he never seemed to be home, and he understood he’d been mostly living in Las Vegas lately.

Clarification: An earlier version of this story quoted Jason Shaw, an employee of the Smokin Gun Club in Littlefield, Arizona, who told VICE News he’d seen Paddock come in a few times over the years. But when VICE News followed up, Shaw said he was no longer sure Paddock was the customer he had in mind.

This is a developing story. Please check back for updates.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby JackRiddler » Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:02 am

[Here follow my notes on an unexpected night of Internet & TV watching rather than sleeping]

Yeah, I had insomnia and when coverage of the shooting started I ended up following the whole thing all night from the start. Horrible! Unimaginable horror.

The coverage and Internet response goes through several phases. With 30,000 people stampeding chaotically in every direction and many carrying the wounded, thousands are going to run into a place like the Bellagio, for example. Suddenly the lobbies are full of blood and panic and the guests there have no clue what's happening, they think it's happening IN the Bellagio. There's a thousand cop cars and carnage outside every nearby casino. That's likely to produce second gunmen reports. During this first phase, the TV yap-yappers were lending some credence to multiple gunmen and went all on about the "hallmarks of Al Qaeda." (In the vein of, we don't know that yet of course but damned if it's not looking like "terrorism," so let's keep riding that, blah blah. In this demented language "terrorism" of course only ever means Muslims). When not studio yapping, CNN & FOX both have their assholes on the street accosting people to ask how they felt when the shots started.

Second phase starts when the TV reports the cops say the killer has been stopped and that he was the only gunman (saying they had "engaged" him which the TV interprets as shot by the cops, but that turned into suicide in the papers today, anyway side matter, go to hell either way motherfucker). On TV the "terrorism" yap-yap dials down but continues. We're waiting for the word on the killer's identity from the police, at which point we can decide whether tomorrow requires a domestic pogrom, a vigorous bombing of Somewhere Foreign, or a ritual debate about gun rights. During this phase on Twitter the frenzied calls to deport and bomb Muslims, etc., continue.

Next turn comes when the police name Marilou Danley as a POI, but withhold the shooter's identity. (How do they know she's 111 pounds, I want to ask, anyway.) A million or two million citizens run to her FB page, which was chock full of pics of her and friends at slot machines and Vegas concerts, plus a lot of generic family and mother's day stuff, etc. I saved her page, since obviously it was coming down soon (and it did). And I saw a pic of her cozy with the guy later identified as Paddock at a bar (he holding a glass of bourbon) and pegged him as the likely companion/boyfriend, thus the likely shooter. But who is he?

From there the Internet connected her page to her long estranged husband Geary Danley (I also saved his page) and bang, a fake article is written and declares him the shooter, now dead. Geary's FB page has some mild "left" stuff on it, he's a fan of Rachel Maddow, etc. So the Twitter feeds drop the Muslims and fill up zippity-zap with bloodthirsty calls to put down the violent anti-Trump left and its BLM and Antifa thug terrorists, etc. (Damn, should have taken screenshots.)

Then, finally, the police hold their press conference and name Paddock as the dead killer, and the TV shows the very same picture of him I had pegged (cropped to show only his face). Uh oh, he's not Muslim, not Black, not Leftist, but a white guy with no apparent politics or religion (also, no social media presence). Therefore not "terrorist" but a sick and evil loner, who can explain it? So Monday there was no new state of emergency, no domestic pogroms, no ramp-up to war on Somewhere, and we can go ahead with the gun debate ritual. (Phew!)

(Where's Puerto Rico again, by the way? Is it near Catalonia?)

A day later, among the things known about Paddock: 18 guns in the room, 30 at the house, arsenal, two private planes (!), real estate, lots of money to spend, lots of trips, lots of hotel stays at Vegas, claims to his brother to be professional gambler winning hundreds of thou all the time, and the only job news reports have managed to associate with his whole life was a three-year stint in the late 1980s with an unidentified military contractor now belonging to Lockheed Martin. (What was his job there? Never mind.)

So damned if I'm not going to throw in my speculation and say this sounds like (likely, not certain) the resume and lifestyle of a retired spook, or a drug and gun runner - or both, as these things go. Lockheed says it will cooperate with the authorities - quietly, of course. Sensitive matters.

Nocturnal sociology friends, feel free to steal from my notes if anything useful differs from yours. ;-)

Sorry, none of this funny.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stefano » Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:39 am

JackRiddler » Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:08 am wrote:Does it not strongly resemble the profile of a spook who made his bones well enough and set himself up for this life as his retirement?

Yeah could be - odd, standoffish personality, criminal dad, hard-to-trace CV... '“It looked like he’d be ready to move at a moment’s notice,” Judy said.'

Unusual hours, blinds always closed and him always inside - is there a possibility that at least some of the drones flying over points east are being controlled by freelancers in the area rather than the better-known army (or is it air force?) drone-control offices in Nevada?

Ha I had to look up 'active-adult', that's a funny one.
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