Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

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Postby Burnt Hill » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:34 pm

Records: FBI Knew Las Vegas Gunman Had Big Gun Stashes
Documents show that FBI agents knew the gunman behind the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history left behind big stashes of guns, ammunition and explosives when they sought warrants to search his properties and online accounts.
Jan. 12, 2018, at 10:58 p.m.


By KEN RITTER, Associated Press

LAS VEGAS (AP) — FBI agents knew the gunman behind the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history left behind big caches of guns, ammunition and explosives when they sought warrants to search his properties and online accounts, according to court documents released Friday.

However, new questions were raised after a U.S. judge in Nevada unsealed the documents revealing some of what federal agents had learned about shooter Stephen Paddock in the week after the Las Vegas attack.

The 315 pages of FBI affidavits provide just a glimpse of what investigators found during initial searches of Paddock's car and home after police found him dead late Oct. 1 in a hotel room at the Mandalay Bay resort. Girlfriend Marilou Danley's casino player rewards card was with him, although she was in the Philippines at the time.

The documents made public did not answer the key question: What motivated Paddock, a 64-year-old high-stakes gambler, to unleash gunfire from his room on the 32nd floor of the resort into an outdoor concert below. Paddock killed 58 people and injured hundreds more before killing himself.


Prosecutors didn't oppose the request for the records by media organizations, including The Associated Press. The affidavits were filed to get search warrants.

The records also did not say whether Danley knew in advance about Paddock's plans and why Paddock apparently emailed himself about buying and selling weapons and accessories.

Danley told investigators they would probably find her fingerprints on bullets because she sometimes helped Paddock load ammunition magazines.

An FBI agent told a judge in an Oct. 3 document that Danley wasn't arrested when she returned to the U.S.; she had provided a DNA sample to authorities, and she was cooperating with investigators.

Police and the FBI have described Danley as a person of interest in the case. FBI spokeswoman Sandra Breault in Las Vegas said late Friday she could not comment about Danley or the investigation

Las Vegas police Officer Aden OcampoGomez and Breault said Friday that they had no update about Paddock's motive. Both called it an ongoing investigation.

Another document said Paddock apparently sent messages between separate email accounts with similar names referring to buying and selling assault-style rifles and so-called "bump stock" devices to make the guns more rapid-fire.

The records provided don't provide inventories of what was obtained from searches. Attorney Maggie McLetchie, representing AP and the Las Vegas Review-Journal, said she is still seeking those documents.

Investigators have said Paddock meticulously planned his attack and intentionally concealed his actions. He modified assault-style rifles to shoot rapidly, set up cameras to watch for police outside his hotel room and wounded a security guard in the hotel hallway.

Police and the FBI have said they found no evidence that Paddock had help carrying out the attack.

Paddock's three-bedroom house in a retirement community in Mesquite was searched twice — first by police and FBI agents in the hours immediately after Paddock was identified as the shooter.

Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo later said that Oct. 2 search found 19 guns and several pounds of potentially explosive materials. A court document said more than 1,000 rounds of ammunition also was found.

The FBI returned to the house a week later for what officials at the time called "redocumenting and rechecking." Their warrant gave agents authority to search for "trace evidence" including blood and hair fibers.

Officers initially searched the hotel suite where Paddock opened fire and his vehicle after it was found parked in the casino parking structure. Lombardo said several pounds of ammonium nitrate, a material used to make explosives, was found in the car.

A document released Friday said more than 1,000 rounds of ammunition and 100 pounds (45.4 kilograms) of explosive material was found in the vehicle.

Other searches were conducted at a house the gunman owned in Reno, where agents found a red SUV and a neighbor reported that Paddock kept a safe the size of a refrigerator in the garage. Agents said their initial search found "a large quantity of ammunition and multiple firearms" on the property.

FBI agents returned to that house on Oct. 10 after local police determined someone had broken in days earlier.

U.S. District Judge Jennifer Dorsey allowed the government to keep one affidavit sealed pending a hearing before a Nevada state court judge on Tuesday about whether Las Vegas police search warrant documents should also be made public.

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Associated Press writers Regina Garcia Cano in Las Vegas and Michael Balsamo in Los Angeles contributed to this report.

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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby minime » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:54 pm

"Another document said Paddock apparently sent messages between separate email accounts with similar names referring to buying and selling assault-style rifles and so-called "bump stock" devices to make the guns more rapid-fire."

How obvious can it be?

So, an arms dealer, eh? How likely is it that an arms dealer muled a cache of ordnance into a hotel/casino so that he could use a few of them in the commission of a terrorist act. It's been pretty obvious from the beginning.

Somebody, a number of somebodies fucked up big time. Now they're covering it up.

As per usual, we'll never find out the truth.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby Burnt Hill » Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:16 pm

minime wrote:As per usual, we'll never find out the truth.


We can come close if we keep asking questions and processing information.
We need to hear more about/from Marilou Danley.

Why not a low level arms dealer going out with a bang?
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby mentalgongfu2 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:29 am

minime » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:54 pm wrote:"Another document said Paddock apparently sent messages between separate email accounts with similar names referring to buying and selling assault-style rifles and so-called "bump stock" devices to make the guns more rapid-fire."

How obvious can it be?

So, an arms dealer, eh? How likely is it that an arms dealer muled a cache of ordnance into a hotel/casino so that he could use a few of them in the commission of a terrorist act. It's been pretty obvious from the beginning.

Somebody, a number of somebodies fucked up big time. Now they're covering it up.

As per usual, we'll never find out the truth.



Forgive me for being dense, but what exactly are you saying here? I'm honestly confused.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby SonicG » Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:50 am

This has also recently come to light...

Mandalay Bay staff interacted with Las Vegas shooter more than 10 times in days before Oct. 1


Mandalay Bay hotel staff had more than 10 interactions with Stephen Paddock in the days leading up to his Oct. 1 massacre of 58 people on the Strip, including two on the day of the shooting, MGM Resorts International said Friday.

...
“There were numerous interactions with Stephen Paddock every day at the resort, including a room service delivery and a call with housekeeping on October 1, all of which were normal in nature,” the MGM Resorts spokesperson said in the email.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/sho ... ore-oct-1/


That original quote about the emails:
"Paddock apparently sent messages between separate email accounts with similar names..."
is vague, no? If he sent emails to other people about arms, then...there would be other people to talk to, besides his wife who helped him load the guns sometimes... :starz:
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:24 pm


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m18Si16U_Yo

I'm not exactly coming to Cenk's conclusions. More like, she knew he was dealing arms there, not necessarily that he would be named as the shooter, maybe just the supplier to the shooter. But I do agree with Cenk's conclusion that, "There is something very suspicious about this story and we certainly have not begun to hear all the details yet. So, hold for more, cuz this is a really weird story."
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby Elvis » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:04 pm

Report "w/ pics" released...

Chilling Police Photos of Las Vegas Shooter's Room Reveal Guns and Ammo
http://popculture.com/trending/2018/01/ ... om-photos/

Las Vegas police released new photos Friday of Route 91 Harvest Festival shooter Stephen Paddock's room, including frames of his dead body.

The images also show several guns and weapons, the broken window from which he fired shots and how he hid cameras within the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino suite.

more at link

Las Vegas shooter Paddock had child porn on computer, FBI investigating person of interest: sheriff

Investigators scanning computers belonging to Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock found “numerous” child pornography photos, the city’s sheriff revealed Friday, adding that the FBI is looking into a person of interest in the case.

Sheriff Joe Lombardo, in his first press conference since Oct. 13, 2017, released an 81-page preliminary investigative report on the shooting Friday that contains new photographs of Paddock's hotel suite and online searches he conducted before the attack, such as for SWAT tactics and other potential public venue targets.

Lombardo said the unnamed person of interest the FBI is looking into is not Paddock’s girlfriend, Marilou Danley, and he reiterated that authorities believe Paddock was a lone shooter.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/19/la ... eriff.html

more at link

By Crimesider Staff CBS/AP January 19, 2018, 1:48 PM
Report shows Vegas gunman's "disturbing" online searches for other crowded venues

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/las-vegas- ... port-says/



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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby SonicG » Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:32 am

Flurry of information coming out now...First, they are looking at charging other people. I'm assuming maybe his girlfriend but shouldn't all of LV be on lockdown if the shooting accomplice is still on the loose??

Police say more criminal charges could be filed in connection with the Las Vegas massacre: Investigation is looking into other individuals in shooting that left 58 dead
Authorities said Tuesday there may be charges against others for massacre
Attorney Nicholas Crosby did not identify new evidence or possible suspects
Sheriff Joe Lombardo and the FBI have said they believe Stephen Paddock acted alone in the October 1 shooting that killed 58 and left hundreds more injured
Documents showed that as of October 6, FBI considered Paddock's girlfriend, Marilou Danley, 'the most likely person who aided or abetted Stephen Paddock'
Danley told investigators that they would find her fingerprints on bullets used during the attack because she would sometimes help Paddock load the weapons
Authorities said the possible charges against others are still being investigated


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z54trnnoSz


It seems that he was sending emails to various accounts all linked to him, so as Chris Knowles, suggested, using them as drop boxes (other parties have the login info) regarding bump stock and guns...

And the FBI has a huge investigation apparently...just hold your horses a bit...
FBI chief says report on Las Vegas shooting expected by anniversary

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FBI investigation by the numbers

—400 specialists brought in

—1500 leads followed locally, 500 worldwide

—400 people interviewed about the gunman

—40 terabytes of data collected

—22,000 hours of video collected

—250,000 images collected

—14 days to comb through the 15-acre festival site

—13 days to collect evidence inside Mandalay Bay

—12 federal search warrants filed

—500 grand jury subpoenas issued

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/sho ... niversary/
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby Elvis » Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:36 pm

—400 specialists brought in

—1500 leads followed locally, 500 worldwide

—400 people interviewed about the gunman

—40 terabytes of data collected

—22,000 hours of video collected

—250,000 images collected

—14 days to comb through the 15-acre festival site

—13 days to collect evidence inside Mandalay Bay

—12 federal search warrants filed

—500 grand jury subpoenas issued

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/sho ... niversary/


Whoa!! and what?... 500 grand jury subpoenas issued??


On edit: Much of that and any further 'arrests' may be connected with the alleged child porn found on Paddock's computer. More 'legend' material? or a real network? Five hundred subpoenas gives me pause.
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Postby SonicG » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:31 pm

Yeah that struck me too...I am definitely not a lawyer but you wouldn't need a grand jury subpoena for say, just a regular witness to the shooting, correct?
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby JojoCivil » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:13 am

The fact that all the email evidence is messages between two of his own accounts is so wack... Cat playing with food... Vegas deleted by #metoo Weinstein and Chumptweets
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Postby Blue » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:26 am

JojoCivil » Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:13 am wrote:The fact that all the email evidence is messages between two of his own accounts is so wack... Cat playing with food... Vegas deleted by #metoo Weinstein and Chumptweets
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What kinda shit is that? The sea change of reckoning of rampant sexual assault is "sludgemindwash" and not as important as some gun nut pedo shooter?

The sex abuse scandal surrounding USA Gymnastics team doctor Larry Nassar, explained

Megan Halicek went to Dr. Larry Nassar as a 15-year-old gymnast suffering from a fractured spine. But during what was supposed to be a routine appointment, Nassar assaulted her: “Again and again and again,” Halicek testified in court last Tuesday, “he abused me, all the while telling me stories about his Olympic journey.”

“I closed my eyes tight, I held my breath, and I wanted to puke,” she recalled. “To this day, those feelings are still there.”

Halicek is one of nearly 140 women who came forward with harrowing testimony at the sentencing hearing for Nassar, a former doctor for USA Gymnastics and sports medicine physician at Michigan State University who has pleaded guilty to charges of criminal sexual conduct and child pornography.

Among the victims are decorated US Olympians, including Aly Raisman, Gabby Douglas, and Simone Biles. But the majority were not famous competitors. They were students and young female athletes — gymnasts, dancers, and volleyball players. Nassar’s reputation as a well-connected, talented doctor won their trust. It also helped secure their silence.

Nassar’s sentencing comes amid a larger reckoning about sexual assault and harassment in all arenas, from Hollywood to hotel rooms — and the people in power negligent or complicit in protecting those perpetrators.


Nassar, after initially denying the allegations of abuse and defending vaginal penetration as part of his medical treatment, pleaded guilty in two Michigan counties to a total of 10 counts of criminal sexual assault. The cases all involve women or girls who were assaulted by Nassar during the course of a medical examination, except one girl — a family friend of Nassar’s whom he abused for six years, between the ages of 6 and 12.

In addition to the charges in Michigan, federal prosecutors charged Nassar in December 2016 with possession of child pornography, saying that the doctor had about 37,000 explicit images in his possession. Investigators discovered this cache while executing a search warrant related to an investigation into sex abuse allegations against Nassar, which stemmed from his work with USA Gymnastics.

Nassar ultimately agreed to plead guilty in July to the possession of child porn, but as part of the deal, he avoided the more serious federal sex abuse charges, which ESPN reported included allegations that he molested children in his home, in his pool, and during “interstate/international travel.” A judge sentenced him to 60 years in prison — the maximum prosecutors had asked for — last month. The sentencing this week is for the criminal sexual abuse charges.




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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby JojoCivil » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:11 pm

The Nassar trial began long before Vegas shooting or the recent wave of attention on grubby scummy men.

Of course all abuse should be criticized, purged from acceptable behaviors, and punished.

That the Vegas event seems like a steaming poo dropped in the experience of those who were there or heard about it, and then an "off the shelf" seeming, old musty scandal everyone knew about, sleazy slimes using money and position to abuse aspiring quislings, feels to me like more social experimentation by the self appointed "operators".

My psychosis? sure, I see power experimenting on their captives for thousands of years, and most dramatically since the U.S. civil war....

So I see a remarkable act of violence largely unexplained almost totally replaced in the newsfeed by Harveygate... and it looks fishy, and his emails to himself look fishy, and it all looks like, as stated above, cat playing with food...

I mean, its not like the media covers the Kagame U.S. Army/CIA mass murder express in Rwanda and Congo, so this is all just crumbs of ugliness

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Postby Blue » Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:03 pm

JojoCivil » Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:11 am wrote:The Nassar trial began long before Vegas shooting or the recent wave of attention on grubby scummy men.

Of course all abuse should be criticized, purged from acceptable behaviors, and punished.

That the Vegas event seems like a steaming poo dropped in the experience of those who were there or heard about it, and then an "off the shelf" seeming, old musty scandal everyone knew about, sleazy slimes using money and position to abuse aspiring quislings, feels to me like more social experimentation by the self appointed "operators".

My psychosis? sure, I see power experimenting on their captives for thousands of years, and most dramatically since the U.S. civil war....

So I see a remarkable act of violence largely unexplained almost totally replaced in the newsfeed by Harveygate... and it looks fishy, and his emails to himself look fishy, and it all looks like, as stated above, cat playing with food...

I mean, its not like the media covers the Kagame U.S. Army/CIA mass murder express in Rwanda and Congo, so this is all just crumbs of ugliness


basically


The reason I brought up the Nassar trial is because it was the day of his sentencing and 156 women spoke up about his abuse in court - most only came out to speak after reading the #metoo accounts.

The media moved on quickly after Sandy Hook, too, even though I was sure that soul sickening event would make some changes in this land. Vegas was bigger and more outrageous yet the first thing out of the pig leaders mouths was "hands off our guns and bump stocks."

Calling #metoo sludgemindwash is insulting to half the world's population.

After the discovery (not surprisingly really) of child porn on Paddock's computers, maybe it's time to connect the dots about men's behavior, male entitlement, the pornification of everything, and patriarchy that are responsible for creating these mass murdering men.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby Rory » Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:41 pm

Paddock's behaviour, his entitlement, whether things are pornified in the land of the patriarchy and his role or responsibility within this framework are kind of moot in the context presented here - he didn't do it. Couldn't have, physically, logistically, and with absolutely zero evidence of even motivation to support the hypothesis that he did.
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