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Closer to Mars

Postby Blue » Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:43 pm

I'd really like to see a mission to mars before I die. Just want to know humans can finally get off this rock.


https://techcrunch.com/2018/02/06/spacexs-historic-falcon-heavy-successfully-launches/amp/

SpaceX has had a very good first test of its Falcon Heavy rocket, the heavy-lift orbital vehicle that can carry twice the weight of its closest competition in active operation. The massive, three-booster rocket took off from Cape Canaveral in Florida as planned on Tuesday at 1:30 PM EST, lifting off from Kennedy Space Center’s LC-39A.

This is a historic moment for SpaceX, since it has been aiming to build and launch the large capacity rocket since 2011. Initially, the planned schedule had targeted 2013 as a launch window, but various delays and setbacks pushed down its inaugural flight – until today. Musk has previously described SpaceX’s early views on how hard it would be to build this rocket as “naive,” to account in part for the considerable departure from that early timetable.

The rocket, which has 27 Merlin engines (as many as three Falcon 9s) has a low-Earth orbit payload capacity of up to 140,700 lbs, or it can carry 58,900 lbs to geostationary transfer orbit (GTO), or 37,000 lbs to Mars. Those numbers are all important because SpaceX is planning Falcon Heavy as a key linchpin in its Mars plan, setting the stage for a system that can ferry goods and people between Earth and the red planet.





edited to add boosters landing

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Re: Closer to Mars

Postby Rory » Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:50 pm

Yeah, definitely wouldn't hold my breath on that hope.

It ain't gona happen. Period. We are staying here for the entirety of this species', human incarnation.

And subsidy grifter Musk, is going to keep on bleeding people to his enrichment while delivering vaporware until people y'know, wake up to the fact that hes a complete fraud.
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Re: Closer to Mars

Postby Blue » Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:53 pm

Just STFU Rory.
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Re: Closer to Mars

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:56 pm

I like Elon

With the entirety of Puerto Rico's electrical grid down and some places expected to be without electricity for months, residents of the island are in desperate need of alternative sources of power. That's something Musk's Tesla knows plenty about, and thankfully for Puerto Rico's 3.5 million residents, the company is happy to help.

"As soon as the storm passed, Tesla began sending hundreds of Powerwall battery systems that can be paired with solar panels to the devastated island in an effort to restore electric power there," reports Fortune, "and the shipments of Powerwall battery systems are continuing."

There are also Tesla employees on the ground helping install the systems, the article goes on to report, and Musk himself personally donated $250,000 to the relief effort. Some even see the possibility of a small silver lining in these efforts, suggesting that the devastation of the traditional power grid could provide Puerto Rico with an opportunity to build a more sustainable system.
https://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/wi ... -help.html



As for Musk, it should really be remembered that dude is an engineer, not some MBA. His intentions are "Build Cool Shit."
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They could still get him out of office.
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Re: Closer to Mars

Postby Rory » Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:04 pm

Blue » Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:53 pm wrote:Just STFU Rory.


Why?

Why the rage?
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Re: Closer to Mars

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:06 pm

trump is fine but Musk is a grifter?
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
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Re: Closer to Mars

Postby Rory » Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:12 pm

Great to see people stan for anti-union, exploitative billionaires who owe their entire fortune to skimming public coffers. What a world!
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Re: Closer to Mars

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:18 pm

yea that trump is a real grifter isn't he....but you forgot to mention the money laundering :)
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Re: Closer to Mars

Postby Rory » Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:49 pm

Every thread is Trump. :yay
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Re: Closer to Mars

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:50 pm

well you asked for it...Elon is no grifter

compared to real grifters that you seem to always ignore and would not say a bad thing about even when it is oh so very obvious
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Re: Closer to Mars

Postby 82_28 » Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:59 pm

I don't know how long this will be up. Maybe a long time? It's a live video feed of "starman" in the Tesla!

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Re: Closer to Mars

Postby DrEvil » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:04 pm

Rory » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:50 am wrote:Yeah, definitely wouldn't hold my breath on that hope.

It ain't gona happen. Period. We are staying here for the entirety of this species', human incarnation.

And subsidy grifter Musk, is going to keep on bleeding people to his enrichment while delivering vaporware until people y'know, wake up to the fact that hes a complete fraud.


You don't seem to understand what the words vaporware and fraud means. You know that you can go out and buy a Tesla right now, right? Or a battery pack, or a launch on one of his rockets if you have the money for it?

Speaking of grift: ULA has had their hands in the public coffers for decades with cost plus contracts out the wazoo, and you're upset that someone with government subsidies manages to fuck them over completely. SpaceX just made one of the largest "free tax money" enterprises obsolete. If you care so much about subsidy grift you should be cheering right now.

And regardless of what else Musk has or hasn't done, that launch and double landing was pretty fucking awesome.
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Re: Closer to Mars

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:05 pm

Deep in the Desert, the Hyperloop Comes to Life


Virgin Hyperloop One wants to launch a commercial hyperloop in 2021, and it's busy in the Nevada desert trying to make it happen.
Alexander Esseveld/Virgin Hyperloop One
When the hyperloop first sparked a frenzy in 2013, it was just an Elon Musk Big Idea—very exciting, maybe possible, definitely hard to believe. Now, five years on, a version of the futuristic, tube-based transportation system is taking shape in the Nevada desert. Some 35 miles north of Las Vegas, the terrain is all sand, rock, and spiky shrubbery, leading up to stunning reddish mountains on the horizon. It’s a world just isolated enough for Virgin Hyperloop One to build a giant white tube and not attract too much attention, apart from the few local tortoises that the secluded engineers have adopted.

“We did this whole construction in around 10 months,” says Kevin Mock, senior test engineer. This is the first time the LA-based company has let any media in to see its test site, and as we walk around one end of the tube, I get the full impression of its length for the first time. One third of a mile long and nearly 11 feet in diameter, and reflecting the orange of the setting sun, it's just painted steel, wrapped with a few strengthening loops. “It’s similar to a water pipe, but it was made to our specific specifications,” Mock says.

The Big Idea reached the world when Elon Musk published a 57-page white paper outlining his thinking for firing levitating pods, carrying passengers or cargo through nearly airless tubes, at speeds up to 700 mph. Busy running both Tesla and SpaceX, Musk invited anyone interested to make it a reality. Virgin Hyperloop One (originally known as Hyperloop Technologies, then Hyperloop One, until Richard Branson came aboard as chairman in December) is one of the companies that materialized to give it a shot.

The hyperloop bears the Muskian hallmarks of radical futurism, but its brilliance is in the fact that it won’t take a revolution to build one. It’s really just a collection of existing transportation and industrial technologies. It’s a chimera, part elevated structure, metal tube, bullet train, pressure vessel, and vacuum system, all smooshed together. The challenge is integrating them without smooshing paying passengers—or profit margins. Hyperloop One think it can launch a commercial system in 2021, which is why it's out here in the desert, with its test tube, aka DevLoop. This is where the company is working out the myriad engineering challenges, trying to make a system it can deploy commercially.

The company plans to run these tubes along pylons, which should be easy enough, and lets it avoid some of the engineering work that comes with laying heavy rail tracks along the ground.
Kyle Cothern/Virgin Hyperloop One
To suck the air out of the DevLoop, Hyperloop One used a row of small pumps, housed in a metal building to one side. These are off the shelf components, typically used in steel factories or meat processing plants (it’s probably better not to ask for details). They can drop the pressure inside the tube to under 1/1000th of atmospheric conditions at sea level, the equivalent of what you get at 200,000 feet. By that point, the few air molecules left are not going to get in the way of a speeding vehicle. At the right hand end of the tube, one section of pipe, about 100 feet long, operates as an airlock. A 12-foot steel disc slides across to separate that chunk from the longer tube, so that pods or other vehicles can be loaded in and out without having to pump the whole tube down to vacuum, which takes about four hours.

The company plans to run these tubes along pylons, which should be easy enough, and lets it avoid some of the engineering work that comes with laying heavy rail tracks along the ground. This short tube isn't quite level, sloping down with the contour of the land, which a production system could do, gently, too. “That allows us to minimize the cost of the civil structures while keeping our elevations in check,” says Mock.

Where the tube meets each T-shaped pillar of concrete holding up the 2.2 million pound structure, sits a sliding bracket. Any civil engineer has wrestled with metal's habit of expanding and contracting as temperatures change, and the Hyperloop crew in the desert is no exception. Even this relatively short section of steel changes length by several feet. “It moves a lot, and we had to account for that in the design,” says Mock. A full sized Hyperloop, running, say, 350 miles from LA to San Francisco, would need some sort of sliding expansion joints, which the company says its design will accommodate.

Since introducing its prototype pod to the tube last summer, Hyperloop One has completed some 200 test runs at varying speeds, collecting data on every variable it can track. In December, it went for pure speed, sending the pod to 240 mph in just a few seconds—a new hyperloop record. (Expect to see a lot of those in the next few years.)

“We plan to have a single type of pod that can do both cargo and people,” says Anita Sengupta, who's in charge of systems engineering. Moving inanimate cargo is a logical starting point, since you can't kill it if something goes wrong, and Hyperloop One has a few use cases in mind, like moving containers from the Port of LA to an inland depot, so polluting trucks don't have to crowd through congested urban areas.

The company has plenty of competition in the race to realize Elon Musk's dream. Arrivo, founded by Hyperloop One co-founder and former top engineer Brogan BamBrogan, plans to build a “hyperloop inspired system” in Denver. Student teams around the world compete in a SpaceX-sponsored challenge, using a short tube Musk built in Los Angeles. And the Big Idea Man himself seems to be back in the game, saying he'd like to pop a hyperloop or two into the tunnels he's digging around the country.

Of course, solving these engineering riddles only gets you part of the way there—then come the fights over land rights, the environmental impact studies, the political wrangling. and the funding questions that make infrastructure one of the toughest businesses around. But if Hyperloop One can cut through it all, this patch of desert will likely see a lot more visitors who aren't there to see the tortoises.
https://www.wired.com/story/virgin-hype ... gineering/
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Re: Closer to Mars

Postby DrEvil » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:06 pm

Rory » Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:04 am wrote:
Blue » Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:53 pm wrote:Just STFU Rory.


Why?

Why the rage?


Because you're pissing all over something that is a pretty amazing achievement?

Because you don't understand the meaning of common words?
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Re: Closer to Mars

Postby Rory » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:09 pm

:clown

The eagerness of people to suck billionaire cock will never cease to amaze me.
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