On Bullshit

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On Bullshit

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:18 pm

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Harry G. Frankfurt is Professor of Philosophy Emeritus at Princeton University:

One of the most salient features of our culture is that there is so much bullshit. Everyone knows this. Each of us contributes his share. But we tend to take the situation for granted. Most people are rather confident of their ability to recognize bullshit and to avoid being taken in by it. So the phenomenon has not aroused much deliberate concern. We have no clear understanding of what bullshit is, why there is so much of it, or what functions it serves. And we lack a conscientiously developed appreciation of what it means to us. In other words, as Harry Frankfurt writes, "we have no theory."

Frankfurt, one of the world's most influential moral philosophers, attempts to build such a theory here. With his characteristic combination of philosophical acuity, psychological insight, and wry humor, Frankfurt proceeds by exploring how bullshit and the related concept of humbug are distinct from lying. He argues that bullshitters misrepresent themselves to their audience not as liars do, that is, by deliberately making false claims about what is true. In fact, bullshit need not be untrue at all.

Rather, bullshitters seek to convey a certain impression of themselves without being concerned about whether anything at all is true. They quietly change the rules governing their end of the conversation so that claims about truth and falsity are irrelevant. Frankfurt concludes that although bullshit can take many innocent forms, excessive indulgence in it can eventually undermine the practitioner's capacity to tell the truth in a way that lying does not. Liars at least acknowledge that it matters what is true. By virtue of this, Frankfurt writes, bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are.

https://press.princeton.edu/titles/7929.html


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Re: On Bullshit

Postby Sounder » Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:54 pm

The sad fact mac is that we are co-dependent on our bullshit, and who wants to talk about that.

There is no use in 'exposing' it, as any substance gets piled on with more layers of bullshit.

I do wish the good professor well, -maybe he and our resident philosopher can get together to see who's kung-fu is better.
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Re: On Bullshit

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:22 pm

Back in the Fifties, Saul Bellow called America "the moronic inferno." How dare he. Today, Bellow and Frankfurt would be banned instantly from RI (a tiny subdivision of The Homeland) for intolerable rudeness Un-American Activities Hate Speech.
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