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Cordelia » Sat Mar 24, 2018 5:27 pm wrote:
The Epimenides Paradox
‘Epimenides the Cretan says, “All the Cretans are liars”, but Epimenides is himself a Cretan; therefore he is himself a liar. But if he be a liar, what he says is untrue, and consequently the Cretans are veracious; but Epimenides is a Cretan, and therefore what he says is true; saying the Cretans are liars, Epimenides is himself a liar, and what he says is untrue. Thus we may go on alternately proving that Epimenides and the Cretans are truthful and untruthful simultaneously’. So, if a Cretan states all Cretans are liars, is he being truthful or untruthful? ‘Tis the question, readers.
This is a brilliant paradox from the mind of Cretan philosopher Epimenides of Knossos. ‘Epimenides was a Cretan who made one immortal statement: “All Cretans are liars”.’ But from this arises a paradox of self-reference. Has Epimenides spoken the truth? If so, he is a liar. But if he’s a liar, what he said isn’t true, and all Cretans are truthful. But Epimenides was a Cretan, ergo what he says must be true. If you’re not a liar, you’re truthful. But if we believe that it is true, then what he says must be untrue. You see? This could go on for a while.
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dada » Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:22 pm wrote:
Not that I would know, I don't have loved ones.
dada » Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:32 am wrote:Yes, that's what I meant, minime, thanks. I don't love anyone. Ain't got no twitter-heart to give away.
But let's not get sidetracked, this isn't the love, lovers and loving thread. And as we all know, love has nothing to do with lies.
You know, if we beat everyone over the head enough with the idea that truth is 'just the facts,' maybe we can erase love forever. Let's try it.
Yes, that's what I meant, minime, thanks. I don't love anyone. Ain't got no twitter-heart to give away.
But let's not get sidetracked, this isn't the love, lovers and loving thread. And as we all know, love has nothing to do with lies.
You know, if we beat everyone over the head enough with the idea that truth is 'just the facts,' maybe we can erase love forever. Let's try it.
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