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Postby peartreed » Sat Nov 03, 2018 4:53 pm

Despite the minimal impact of an individual vote on the midterm elections outcome, you are all very fortunate to have that right to vote and a voice in the critical process. Those of us watching from outside your borders are deeply envious.

The disaster of Trump and his presidency has already negatively impacted the entire world and set the stage for even more global conflict and confrontation. The citizenry of the planet outside the USA is mostly powerless to protect itself from him. We are already reeling from his punitive policies and diplomatic ineptitude.

Just in Canada alone, the dismantling of NAFTA and the imposition of steel and aluminum tariffs have hurt us economically while the strain on our historical cooperation as close allies has undermined our faith in a future partnership. But most disturbing is the erosion of ethics and morality in longstanding international relations and trust. The Trump turn towards fascism next door is truly frightening.

We wish we had a chance to mark a ballot to register our opposition to his rule.

Instead, we must again watch with helpless surprise and alarm at his attempts to increase his power and influence at undermining international affairs, alliances and cooperative global prosperity. Our individual lives are being undermined too.

The risk of the current Republican regime is real and our interest in it is riveted.
Please know that we are counting on you to exercise your franchise on your own - and our - behalf.
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Re: 2018 Election Thread - Come attack me!

Postby Marionumber1 » Sat Nov 03, 2018 5:07 pm

Belligerent Savant » Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:54 pm wrote:As a registered independent (since the age of 18) I can't vote this Tuesday, in any event, due to the 'closed state' scam.

Things would be far more interesting if there were no 'closed' states.


I'm pretty sure that's not the case. Being a closed state means that independents can't vote in primaries, but any registered voter can vote in a general election.
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Re: 2018 Election Thread - Come attack me!

Postby JackRiddler » Sat Nov 03, 2018 5:26 pm

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I am very sorry to hear about the loss of your mother, karmamatterz.

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Marionumber1 » Sat Nov 03, 2018 4:07 pm wrote:
Belligerent Savant » Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:54 pm wrote:As a registered independent (since the age of 18) I can't vote this Tuesday, in any event, due to the 'closed state' scam.

Things would be far more interesting if there were no 'closed' states.


I'm pretty sure that's not the case. Being a closed state means that independents can't vote in primaries, but any registered voter can vote in a general election.


There is no way this can be true. What state is this? If you are registered, if they have you on the rolls as registered, you can vote in the general election regardless of party affiliation.

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Re: 2018 Election Thread - Come attack me!

Postby JackRiddler » Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:17 pm

On the chaotic variety of hackable and unreliable voting machines produced by corrupt private corporations and sold to party-controlled state agencies. This latest story is from BLOOMBERG. The attention to this was so much greater in 2004 than today, but there is no reason to think anything is better now.

If by some miracle this election and 2020 are clean wins for the lesser-evil guys, do you think there is any chance this long-running problem will finally be addressed through confirmable, public, open-source solutions? (Preferably: hand-counted paper ballots with multi-sided oversight and automatic auditing. Just hire enough people and pay the damn price for integrity.)

www.bloomberg.com

Private Equity Controls the Gatekeepers of American Democracy

Three companies dominate the U.S. voting-maching industry
Experts say some equipment remains vulnerable to hacking


By Anders Melin and Reade Pickert
November 3, 2018, 6:01 AM EDT


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A Hart InterCivic voting machine in Texas. Photographer: Robert Daemmrich Photography Inc/Corbis Historical via Getty Images


Millions of Americans will cast votes in Tuesday’s midterm elections, some on machines that experts say use outdated software or are vulnerable to hacking. If there are glitches or some races are too close to call -- or evidence emerges of more meddling attempts by Russia -- voters may wake up on Wednesday and wonder: Can we trust the outcome?

Meet, then, the gatekeepers of American democracy: Three obscure, private equity-backed companies control an estimated $300 million U.S. voting-machine industry. Though most of their revenue comes from taxpayers, and they play an indispensable role in determining the balance of power in America, the companies largely function in secret.

Devices made by Election Systems & Software LLC, Dominion Voting Systems and Hart InterCivic Inc. will process about nine of every ten ballots next week. Each of the companies is privately held and at least partially controlled by private equity firms.

Beyond that, little is known about how they operate or to whom they answer. They don’t disclose financial results and aren’t subject to federal regulation. While the companies say their technology is secure and up-to-date, security experts for years have raised concerns that older, sometimes poorly engineered, equipment can jeopardize the integrity of elections and, more importantly, erode public trust.

“We have more federal regulation of ballpoint pens and Magic Markers than our voting infrastructure,” said Lawrence Norden, deputy director of the Brennan Center’s Democracy Program at New York University School of Law. “There’s no national system, and the result is that states are largely forced to buy from these companies.”

Read more on problems with Georgia’s voting machines.

The U.S. Constitution assigns responsibility for elections to the states, which often task counties or even towns to conduct elections and set equipment standards. As a result, voting-machine companies cater to a market of about 10,000 jurisdictions ranging in size from more than 4 million voters in Los Angeles County to fewer than 500 in some rural areas. As many as 19 vendors divided the market in the early 2000s, according to John R. Patrick, who wrote the 2016 book “Election Attitude: How Internet Voting Leads to a Stronger Democracy.”

Bush v Gore

That changed after the controversial victory of George W. Bush over Al Gore in the 2000 presidential election. Congress in 2002 passed the Help America Vote Act and doled out more than $3 billion to states to upgrade machines and train poll workers. Once the funds dried up, the industry began consolidating. Now, the three companies cover about 92 percent of voters, according to research by the Penn Wharton Public Policy Initiative at the University of Pennsylvania.


ES&S headquarters in Omaha.

Photographer: Nati Harnik/AP Photo

ES&S, the largest, was founded in 1979 and says it controls about 60 percent of the market. Private equity firm McCarthy Group invested in ES&S about a decade later and took a majority stake in 2011. Both are based in Omaha, Nebraska.

Dominion, founded in Canada, became one of the largest equipment makers in 2010 through a couple of acquisitions, including a subsidiary of Diebold Inc. Rival ES&S purchased the Diebold unit in 2009 but was forced to sell it following a Justice Department antitrust ruling. This year, Staple Street Capital, a New York-based middle-market private equity firm, and Dominion’s management team bought it out.

Bain Alumnus

Hart InterCivic, based in Austin, Texas, was formed about a century ago as a ballot-printing business. In 2011, Miami-based private equity firm HIG Capital, founded by alumni of Bain & Co. and Blackstone Group LP, made what it called a “strategic investment” in the company, without disclosing the size of its stake.

HIG was criticized in 2012 after reports revealed the firm and its principals, including managing director Jeff Bohl, who was also a Hart board member, had donated generously to Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign. At the time, Hart denied “any suggestions that the company might try to influence the outcome of election results.” Since 2012, the majority of HIG employees’ donations have gone to Democrats, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

HIG and Staple Street didn’t respond to requests for comment. McCarthy declined to comment and referred questions to ES&S, whose spokeswoman, Teresa Paulsen, said in an email: “All ES&S equipment goes through extensive federal and state certification processes, and the company invests significantly in research and development to advance security.”

Read more on cybersecurity issues involved with electronic voting.

Criticism of poorly functioning equipment surfaced this week, with Texas voters complaining that Hart machines weren’t accurately recording their choices in the heated battle between Republican Senator Ted Cruz and his Democratic challenger, U.S. Representative Beto O’Rourke. The Texas Secretary of State’s office told the Texas Tribune this wasn’t a malfunction but the result of voters making selections before the machines’ screens had time to finish rendering. Hart said on its website that it “proudly stands behind” its voting systems. In a statement, Rolando Pablos, the secretary of state, cautioned against a “disturbing trend where misinformation” could discourage voters from casting ballots.

A nationwide overhaul of equipment isn’t likely to happen soon. States have spent most of the money Congress allocated in 2002. There’s also scant competition from outsiders. Technology giants like Microsoft Corp. and Dell Inc. have steered clear of the industry. And the Election Assistance Commission, the independent federal agency Congress created in the HAVA legislation to certify voting machines, lacks authority to force states to adopt its standards.

Fair and Open

It’s not that voters don’t care. Only about half believe the nation’s elections are “fair and open,” according to a July poll by Ipsos and the University of Virginia Center for Politics. But many aren’t familiar with the workings of the technology undergirding the system or tend to forget about the issue as soon as elections are over, said the Brennan Center’s Norden.

The market’s limited size can discourage voting-machine companies from investing in new systems, said Matthew Caulfield, one of the Penn report’s authors. Some accuse private equity firms of loading up portfolio companies with debt and slashing costs to increase margins. But because closely held ES&S, Dominion and Hart don’t disclose financial results, it’s not possible to tell what, if any, role their private-equity owners have played in financial decisions. The companies haven’t issued any debt, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

It’s unclear what allure voting-equipment makers have to private equity. But it’s an obvious signal that “these companies are either very profitable or have the potential to be very profitable,” Patrick said.
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Re: 2018 Election Thread - Come attack me!

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:19 pm

Wisconsin Voters Face Hurdles to Reach the Polls
voter ID, Wisconsin, ES&S, Scott Walker

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Some Wisconsin voters may be in for an unpleasant surprise when they head to the polls on Tuesday — thanks to a 2016 state law requiring that voters present certain forms of photo identification in order to vote.

While the law was pushed by Republican lawmakers to address the specter of voting fraud, the effect has been to place a disproportionate burden on students and on minority and lower-income voters, according to Jay Heck, director of Common Cause Wisconsin. This ID law, he said, has “definitely had a suppressive effect on voter turnout,” and is a big step backwards for the state.

Student IDs for most of Wisconsin’s colleges and universities are not valid at the polls. That includes 10 of the 13 University of Wisconsin campuses, Heck said. Though schools can, and do, issue special IDs that students can use at the polls, this introduces another step into the process of voting, and one of which many students may be unaware.

The state law also presents obstacles to minority voters, particularly in urban areas, where a higher percentage of people don’t drive and may not have driver’s licenses, according to Eileen Newcomer, voter education coordinator for the League of Women Voters of Wisconsin.

And while Wisconsin offers free state IDs, available at state Department of Motor Vehicles offices, acquiring them can be a problem, especially for someone who doesn’t drive.

Related: Obtaining Voter ID — Piece of Cake or Disenfranchising Obstacle?

To make matters worse, DMV offices in Wisconsin also operate on such comically low budgets and pared-down schedules that they were mocked in a 2016 episode of Last Week Tonight with John Oliver:



“If you don’t have a car or you don’t drive, it can be very difficult to get to the DMV,” Newcomer said. “So there are some inherent barriers to that.”

This sets up a situation in which a voter who lacks proper ID tries to vote and is either issued a provisional ballot, which is the correct procedure, or is turned away from the polls. The latter is not supposed to happen, but it has occurred in previous elections and likely will happen again, Newcomer said. The League of Women Voters is working in conjunction with other organizations to raise awareness of the issue and to help people obtain the necessary ID.

Voting-rights advocates say that these restrictions, combined with partisan gerrymandering as well as limited hours for early voting, are responsible for declining voter turnout rates — which dropped significantly in 2016, following participation rates that were the second-highest in the country in the 2008 and 2012 elections.

Critics of the new restrictions point in particular to declining rates in Milwaukee, which dropped in the same election that saw Donald Trump win the state by 23,000 votes. A similar effect is expected in this election, potentially helping Republican candidates in close races, including Gov. Scott Walker.

Cybersecurity and Same-Day Registration

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Some election watchers are also concerned about cybersecurity. Karen McKim, director of Wisconsin Election Integrity, is generally pleased with the security of the voter registration rolls, which are handled entirely by the state with state-developed software. But she has little confidence in the security of the election itself, especially in regards to vote tabulation and auditing.

McKim said the tabulation of votes in Wisconsin is handled by private vendors hired by each of Wisconsin’s 78 counties. One tabulation system, the DS200, counts the votes for 60 to 70 percent of Wisconsin voters, and counties pay several vendors (i.e., ES&S, Dominion, Command Central, and Clear Ballot) to provide voting machines. But when it comes to the technical work regarding cybersecurity, the companies are in charge and not the county election boards, which have nominal responsibility.

Protecting Our Vote
Although the state registration rolls could conceivably be hacked, Wisconsin has another mechanism that acts as a check on this: Same-day registration. This policy is the best check against registration tampering, McKim said, because any discrepancies that crop up at the polls can be immediately corrected at the polls: Any potentially de-registered voter can simply re-register and still vote.

But hacking of voting machines or tampering with tabulation or auditing is much harder to prevent. Especially worrisome to McKim is the involvement of the vendor ES&S (the successor company to Diebold) which in 2011, she points out, was caught using remote-access software on voting machines — even after the company had assured election officials that the machines would never be connected to the internet. At least half of Wisconsin voters still use ES&S machines, said McKim.

Related: Voting Machine Company Admits Installing Vulnerable Remote-Access Software

State policy regarding election auditing and recounts, McKim said, are also problematic, since the state empowers county election clerks to decide whether to conduct routine audits after elections by checking the paper receipts against the computer tabulation. County election clerks can choose to do this, but they are not required to do so, and often don’t, despite the fact that automatically conducting these audits, McKim said, is the only sure way to guard against hacking in Wisconsin.

Recounts or Audits

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Voting-rights advocates are also concerned about the security of any recounts or audits that are triggered as a result of close elections. The reason is the 2016 disbanding of the state’s nonpartisan Government Accountability Board, which was created in 2007 to serve as an independent watchdog for ethics complaints and election problems.

Since the disbanding of that board by Gov. Scott Walker and a Republican-controlled legislature, state election problems are now handled by an election board made up of six political appointees — three Republicans and three Democrats. Since four votes are required to pass any motion, a deadlocked vote essentially kills any complaints brought before the board.

This situation, Heck said, hardly inspires confidence in the event of a contested election.
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Re: 2018 Election Thread - Come attack me!

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:55 am

Marionumber1 » Sat Nov 03, 2018 4:07 pm wrote:
Belligerent Savant » Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:54 pm wrote:As a registered independent (since the age of 18) I can't vote this Tuesday, in any event, due to the 'closed state' scam.

Things would be far more interesting if there were no 'closed' states.


I'm pretty sure that's not the case. Being a closed state means that independents can't vote in primaries, but any registered voter can vote in a general election.


Sorry folks - I was referring specifically to the primaries. Should have been clearer.
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Postby Belligerent Savant » Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:16 am

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Postby Elvis » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:47 am

Thanks for those graphs, BS. I'm especially interested in the last two, "what Americans care about." (It ain't immigration.)
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Re: 2018 Election Thread - Come attack me!

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:50 am

Takedown trump Tuesday


Dems are going to win governors in 7 states that went for trump ......dems are going to win the house and good shot at the senate

Beto!

Abrams!

Sinema!

Gillum!

WOMEN!!!

HUMANITY!!!!! WINS!!!!


Let the investigations begin

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US soybean sales to China down 94 percent as Trump tariffs continue

China Buys Record Amount of Russian Soy as It Shuns U.S. Growers

don't mess with midwest farmers
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Re: 2018 Election Thread - Come attack me!

Postby JackRiddler » Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:25 pm

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I hope the House flips by 199 seats. I hope the GOP goes the way of the Whigs.

The most important elections are actually the gubernatorial. 36 of these are up for election, including 9 of the top 10 states by population. Flips away from Republicans possible-to-likely in Florida, Illinois, Michigan, Georgia, Ohio (all top 10) as well as Wisconsin, Iowa, Maine and Nevada. Even possible in Kansas, one of the Dakotas, Alaska. These are the state governments that will conduct the redistricting of 2021, affecting the House elections through 2032.

I hope the Senate stays Republican. If both chambers are Democratic, there will be overwhelming money-lobby-establishment-corporate media-pundit-"moderate"-pious asshole-"civility" pressure to make deals with Trump. If he launches a new war, the dumbfucks will salute their leader. This will boost the odds of Trump winning in 2020.

Florida-23: Canova is ahead of DWS in the polls, one of the few cases in which "lesser evil" syncs up with DO THE RIGHT THING.

California Senate: Disgusting that Military-Industrial Feinstein is likely to win it, but let's see.

NY-Governor: I feel totally secure about voting Howie Hawkins here.

Tomorrow: Total delusion if you think your vote was more important than organizing, raising hell, and fighting for a fucking revolution.

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Re: 2018 Election Thread - Come attack me!

Postby The Consul » Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:17 pm

All that is solid melts into air.
A re-conceptualization of the working class not based on bourgeoisie definitions, polarizations and reactions,
reformed as the Human Class
Economy being only what can be used to support an ethical humanoid presence on Earth.
Anything outside of that is not part of the Human Class economy.
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Re: 2018 Election Thread - Come attack me!

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:22 pm

trump is going to wake up tomorrow with dem governors controlling every battleground state
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Re: 2018 Election Thread - Come attack me!

Postby JackRiddler » Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:32 pm

Yeah, just wait a few more hours and party when it's real, will you?

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Postby Iamwhomiam » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:00 pm

NPR is continually updating tally of house and senate seats won:
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/06/650521908/election-night-2018-live

RIght now in the House race Dems hold 85 seats and Repubs hold 100, the largest spread I've noticed.

Senate: Dems hold 37; independents hold 1 seat and Repubs hold 45.

Democracy Now is live until 1am EST:
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/06/650521908/election-night-2018-live
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Re: 2018 Election Thread - Come attack me!

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:17 pm

well at least we got the house...subpoena power and a whole bunch of govs


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tax returns......I'm not kidding they announced tonight Dems are requesting trump's tax returns

Say hello to Adam Schiff, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.

governors

Michigan - D
Kansas - D
Illinois - D
Wisconsin - ?
New Mexico - D
Iowa - ?
Guam - D
Pennsylvania - D


And Duncan Hunter also appears to be ahead as well for the moment. So it's a pretty good night for sitting Republican congressmen currently under federal indictment!

Sean Casten, a clean-energy executive, pulled off a major upset Tuesday, unseating six-term GOP Rep. Peter Roskam in Illinois's 6th Congressional District.

Dem first-time candidate flips GOP-held seat in Michigan

Dem defeats powerful GOP chairman in Texas

Democrat Tim Walz has won the governor's race in Minnesota, defeating Republican Jeff Johnson.

Dem Lauren Underwood topples four-term GOP lawmaker in Illinois
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