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Postby Belligerent Savant » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:01 am

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Great to see these endorsements; the prospect of this team informing policy/pushing through necessary change in a Sanders White House is almost like a daydream given the current dystopian landscape.

And therein lies the turd in the punchbowl: this dystopia of ours necessarily includes not only the current fevered ego in chief, but also the frauds and criminals embedded within both establishment party lines. The system is set up/rigged to keep current power factions in place, not to enable factions that may be viewed as a detriment to the power grabs of the very few. All of this is largely well-known 'round these parts (or perhaps that's no longer a given); BUT, none of this should, and won't, dissuade these Reps, and their adherents, from pushing forward -- hard -- on these necessary platforms for change (and there is good reason to push hard: whatever may not be achieved in the near-term may fuel momentum for wider adoption in the years to follow).

The ideal scenario is that this crew of 'rising stars' (along with Bernie, as long as he keeps chugging along) will spark the necessary Change and Upheaval required to lay down a new/fully 'reformed' foundation for their initiatives to be carried out.

You'll forgive me for having doubt that such a scenario will transpire in the near-term.*

I'd be ecstatic - and shocked, frankly - to be proven wrong.


(Side-note: inexplicable that the topic of climate change wasn't raised as a talking point, but I view these 'debates' largely as theatrics, so can't be surprised)


*I will withhold the darker cynicism, as it would amount to fruitless wild speculation right now. Time will tell.
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Postby JackRiddler » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:01 pm

Sanders and a couple of others did mention it. You saw the goddamn format. The only thing to do at some point is to condemn the DNC and the corporate media for it. Gabbard effectively had promised it to her supporters (during an e-mail meditation in the days before on whether she should boycott) but in my view pretty much flubbed it, sidetracking herself by only responding to the NYT hit-piece on her, instead of calling out the whole professional wrestling spectacle with 12 idiots in a cage match getting 45 seconds each to be bullied by the moderators.
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Re: SANDERS 2020 is seriously dangerous <3

Postby Belligerent Savant » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:27 pm

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To clarify: climate change wasnt explicitly raised by the moderators as a topic/talking point.


...calling out the whole professional wrestling spectacle with 12 idiots in a cage match getting 45 seconds each to be bullied by the moderators.


Whatever do you mean? It's what the plebes want! Or rather, what they are conditioned to want. Middle-brow entertainment branded as serious rumination on the future direction of our Once Great Nation.

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Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:16 am

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Tomorrow: I'm so excited to be joined by @MMFlint and @AOC in New York for a rally to show the billionaire class we're ready to take them on. RSVP here: https://act.berniesanders.com/event/eve ... tend/32740

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Bernie Sanders To Hold Comeback Rally Across From Nation’s Largest Public Housing Complex
The location, in the shadow of New York’s dirtiest power plant, is a deliberate choice by the senator and his campaign.

By Daniel Marans

On Saturday, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is due to hold his first rally since his heart attack earlier this month ― and he’s planning to make it a big one.

Sanders, 78, had a strong debate performance on Tuesday, trying to put to rest any lingering doubts about whether he’s fit enough to be president. And this past week, he rolled out the endorsement of Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (N.Y.) and Ilhan Omar (Minn.), two of the Democratic Party’s young progressive rising stars.

The Sanders campaign is obviously hoping for a large crowd on Saturday, when Ocasio-Cortez is slated to join the Vermont senator on stage in Queens, New York, to formally endorse his candidacy. And the campaign is hoping to set the senator apart from some of his opponents ― including other progressives ― by choosing a location and message that reflect his commitment to affordable housing, the Green New Deal and taming corporate power.

The “Bernie’s Back” gathering is slated to take place in Queensbridge Park, which is in the shadow of both the country’s largest public housing development and New York’s dirtiest power plant. In a nod to his surroundings, Sanders plans to focus his remarks on expanding affordable housing and lifting up racially diverse, poor and working-class communities like those in the neighboring Queensbridge Houses.

“They’re going to ... try to capture the energy of the housing justice movement here,” said New York state Sen. Julia Salazar, a Sanders backer who unseated a Brooklyn Democrat in September 2018 on the strength of calls for greater tenant protections.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) speaks during the fourth debate in Westerville, Ohio, this past Tuesday. He hopes to build momentum with his first campaign rally after a heart attack.
Sanders’ supporters see his ambitious affordable housing plan as a key point of contrast with Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), a progressive rival who has overtaken Sanders in national and early-state polling. Sanders has, among other things, called for a national universal rent control law capping rent increases at 3% annually, while Warren has focused on increasing federal funding for the construction of affordable housing.

Sanders is also attempting to distinguish himself from Warren through the selection of an industrial and working-class Queens locale. Warren held a rally focused on taking on Big Tech this past March in Long Island City, but in mid-September she chose the more scenic Washington Square Park, in the heart of Manhattan’s upscale Greenwich Village, as the site of her largest campaign rally to date.

Sanders, who also convened supporters for a blowout rally in Washington Square Park during his 2016 presidential run, made a point of picking a site with more populist significance this time around.

“Queensbridge was a deliberate choice,” a Sanders aide told HuffPost.

“It is a symbolic gesture by Bernie ... saying that this is no longer about being in the heart of Manhattan, this is about the working families in the outer boroughs who have been neglected,” said New York Assemblyman Ron Kim, a Flushing Democrat backing Sanders. “It’s a metaphor for all Americans who feel neglected by Wall Street.”
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The Ravenswood Generating Station, which looms over Queensbridge Park, contributes to lower air quality near a massive public
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The Ravenswood Generating Station, which looms over Queensbridge Park, contributes to lower air quality near a massive public housing complex.
‘A Beautiful Symbol For The Green New Deal’

As Sanders speaks on Saturday, the smokestacks of the Ravenswood Generating Station, a fuel oil and natural gas plant, will tower above the park. Fittingly, Sanders will likely be discussing his twin priorities of fighting climate change and environmental injustice.

As of 2014, the power plant was emitting more carbon dioxide than any other facility in the state, making it a longstanding thorn in the side of the city’s robust environmental movement. The confluence of Ravenswood, a second power plant in the adjacent neighborhood of Astoria and the traffic flows coming off of the Queensborough Bridge and nearby highways makes Western Queens, once nicknamed “Asthma Alley,” one of the most polluted areas in New York City.

The Queensbridge Houses, whose 7,000 low- and moderate-income residents live in the heart of this smoggy corner of New York, are thus a prime example of environmental injustice ― a term that describes how marginalized communities bear the brunt of ecological depredation.

But if the setting embodies ills that are plaguing American society, it also has the makings of a potential solution. The site makes plain the case for a Green New Deal that could employ residents of the public housing development to transform the Ravenswood plant into a source of renewable energy, according to Pete Sikora, climate director for the progressive group New York Communities for Change, which has not endorsed in the Democratic presidential primary. Ravenswood’s operators have already submitted a plan to convert the dirty energy source into a facility capable of housing renewable energy storage batteries that Sikora and others believe federal help could usher into reality.

“This backdrop is a beautiful symbol for the Green New Deal,” said Sikora, who supports Sanders in a personal capacity and plans to attend Saturday’s rally. “Hopefully Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez are going to make that point in their speeches.”

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) represents neighborhoods adjacent to the site of her rally with Sanders on Saturday. H
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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) represents neighborhoods adjacent to the site of her rally with Sanders on Saturday. Her election reflects the left’s ascent in the area.
‘This Is Ground Zero’

Northwest Queens has become a hotbed of left-wing politics in recent years, as young newcomers and middle-class families get priced out of Manhattan and trendy swaths of Brooklyn and bring their left-wing, anti-establishment political views to these neighborhoods abutting the East River.

The Democratic Socialists of America has a vibrant presence in Northwest Queens, providing a key source of experienced canvassers to aid insurgent candidates willing to take on one of the city’s most influential Democratic Party machine apparatuses. Other, less ideologically radical upstarts in the region, like the New Queens Democrats, have attacked the machine’s arcane levers of power, like the opaque county committee that rubber-stamps candidates for the vast borough’s court system.

The combined firepower of Northwest Queens’ ascendant left has produced some of the most significant progressive wins in the country in the past few years. With the help of DSA’s volunteer army, Ocasio-Cortez racked up some of her highest electoral margins in Northwest Queens against then-Rep. Joe Crowley (D) in June 2018.

A year after Ocasio-Cortez’s win, the activists and rank-and-file progressives of Northwest Queens again flexed their muscles in a historically contentious Democratic primary to fill a vacant district attorney post. In that case, the left’s preferred candidate, the Astoria-based public defender Tiffany Cabán, ended up coming a few dozen votes shy of victory.

Queens’ bastion of left-wing activism has also punched above its weight outside of the electoral arena. In February, Amazon withdrew its offer to build a second headquarters in Long Island City, amid vocal opposition to the tax subsidies it was due to receive from the city and state to set up shop in the borough. Polls showed that the public favored Amazon’s arrival, but the outspoken skepticism of local elected officials in Northwest Queens, keen to prove their bona fides to restive constituents, contributed to the massive company’s decision to pull out.

“This is ground zero,” said Kim, the Flushing assemblyman, who represents neighborhoods east of Long Island City but was an early and vocal opponent of Amazon’s arrival. “The progressive wave is happening there.”

Saturday’s choice of neighborhood is more than just symbolic for Sanders, though. If he hopes to compete in New York’s primary in April, he will need to maximize turnout in areas like Northwest Queens and neighborhoods in Brooklyn where voters broke for him in the greatest numbers in 2016. The rally is a way of reminding his base that he cares about them and needs their support, according to Salazar, who represents the liberal Brooklyn strongholds of Greenpoint, Williamsburg and Bushwick.

“The people who live Western Queens and the advocates there have demonstrated that they are at least largely aligned with a really progressive ― democratic socialist, potentially ― platform, so that’s definitely favorable for Bernie,” Salazar said.

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Photos: 26,000 Spend Saturday With Bernie Sanders And AOC In Queens
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Senator Bernie Sanders greets thousands of supporters in Long Island City on Saturday, October 19, 2019
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Senator Bernie Sanders opened his 2020 presidential campaign speech in Long Island City on Saturday afternoon with an apology to what his campaign said were nearly 26,000 supporters packed into Queensbridge Park and on the sidewalk outside: “We got a permit for 20,000 people and we had to close the doors!”

The rally, billed as #BerniesBack, marked the Vermont Senator's first major campaign appearance since a heart attack forced him to leave the campaign trail earlier this month. “I am more than ready to assume the office of President of the United States,” he said. “To put it bluntly, I’m back.”

The most anticipated guest of the day was Queens Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, whose headline-grabbing endorsement came in the wake of Sanders’ health scare and dip in the polls. Introducing her “tio Bernie” to the crowd, she singled him out as the politician who helped her understand her inherent rights as an uninsured waitress working long hours to make ends meet, and later inspired her to run for Congress.

“It wasn’t until I heard of a man by the name of Bernie Sanders that I began to question, and assert and recognize my inherent value as a human being that deserves healthcare, housing, education and a living wage,” she said.

“The halls of Congress are no joke,” added Ocasio-Cortez. “Behind closed doors, your arm is twisted, the vise pressure of political pressure is put on you… and it has been in that experience, over the last nine months, that I have come to appreciate the enormous, consistent and nonstop advocacy of Senator Bernie Sanders.”

Sanders launched into a speech familiar to his supporters: why, beyond just defeating Donald Trump, the political system must be completely overhauled to improve life for everyday Americans. He called for Medicare for All, student debt cancelation, a minimum wage of “at least” $15 per hour, nation-wide rent control regulations, the elimination of private prisons, and $20 billion for the New York City Housing Authority.

“It is not a radical idea to say that all of our people regardless of their income have a right to live long and healthy lives,” Sanders said.

“Wall Street, the insurance companies, drug companies, fossil fuel industry, military industrial complex, prison industrial complex, the whole damn one percent,” he added. “The question we’ve got to answer: are we prepared to stand up to them and transform this country?”

Ocasio-Cortez and Sanders also both noted the significance of the rally location: next to the NYCHA-run Queensbridge Houses. “Let’s acknowledge the ground that we are on, which is the ground zero for the fight for public housing, and fully funded, dignified housing in the United States of America,” Ocaso-Cortez said.

The Ravenswood Generation Station, a fossil fuel-burning power plant, loomed behind the rally stage. “Let us be clear: it is not secret that that plant is located right next to the city’s largest public housing development,” Sanders added. “Together we will pass a Green New Deal that will end the environmental racism we see right here in Queens.”

Throughout the rally—between chants of “Green New Deal!” and “Black lives matter!” and “We will win!”—speakers were defensive of Sanders, amid criticism that the 78-year-old is too old to run for president. Sanders’ primary challenger, Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren, who drew a slightly smaller crowd of 20,000 to Washington Square Park last month, has echoed one of his key policy priorities, Medicare for All.

“Me personally, I would support Warren as well,” said Kareem Ibraham, a 28-year-old teacher from Long Island. “I'm going to vote on the Democratic ticket, but... I don't think we need centrism. I don't think that happy medium or that old fond memory is really what we should be going for."

Standing nearby, 16-year-old Tasfiya Kashem from East Flatbush explained that it was Sanders who got her interested in politics. Too young to vote, she’s currently interning for a local campaign: City Councilwoman Helen Rosenthal’s 2021 Comptroller bid.

“He uplifts working class people, people of color and women, minorities in general,” she said. “I think a lot of people believe that since he’s a white man, it’s important to endorse other candidates like women candidates and candidates of color, but I think he’s still the only candidate who works for those people.”

Other supporters told Gothamist that Sanders is the only candidate for them—a position informed by their material circumstances, or those of their friends and family.

“I know my mom’s coworkers are in their 40s and 50s and are still paying off college, and I don’t want to live like that and I don’t want my friends to live like that, or anybody,” said 18-year-old Nuala Naranjo of Jackson Heights.

“They just raised my rent in the Bronx so I’m staying with my mom on the couch right now,” added Ishmael Orroyo, 45, a union mason tender who grew up in the Queensbridge Houses and voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016. “The rich are sucking up every resource available. You’re getting a smaller and smaller piece of the pie, period. It’s just a fact… it’s Bernie or nobody.”

Patricia Peterson, a 64-year-old retiree who lives in the Queensbridge Houses, also voted for Clinton in 2016. She heard about the rally on television while she was getting ready for a dentist appointment on Saturday morning and decided to walk over. An undecided voter, she was critical of an ill-fated plan to bring an Amazon headquarters to Queens, which Sanders opposed earlier this year.

“I just wanted to hear what he had to say,” she said. “And just to be here in the moment.”
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Michael Moore Endorses Bernie Sanders: It’s Time To “Crush” Trump
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Mandatory Credit: Photo by Greg Allen/Invision/AP/Shutterstock (10450902f) Michael Moore speaks at the "Bernie's Back Rally" at Queensbridge Park, Long Island City, in New York Bernie's Back Rally with Bernie Sanders, New York, USA - 19 Oct 2019. (Credit: Shutterstock)
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Michael Moore officially threw his support behind Bernie Sanders Saturday, saying the Vermont senator can “crush” President Trump at the polls.

The Oscar-winning filmmaker joined freshman Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) at Sanders’ “Bernie Is Back!” rally in Queens, New York. It was the 2020 presidential candidate’s first big campaign event since he suffered a heart attack earlier this month.

Moore told the crowd that age and health are not factors for Sanders (I-VT). Instead, the Sicko director blamed political pundits and the media for making the 78-year-old politician’s age an issue by recycling tired “tropes.”


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“They are doing everything they can to throw everything they can come up with, to get people to think differently about Bernie,” Moore told the massive crowd. “So what do they say? Bernie’s too old.”

“Yeah. Well, here’s what’s too old,” he continued. “The electoral college is too old. That’s what’s too old. A $7.25 minimum wage, that’s too old. Women not being paid the same as men, that’s too old. Thousands and thousands of dollars of student debt. What is that? Too old.”

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders attend “Bernie’s Back!” rally.
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Moore went on to say Sanders’ age and experience are benefits.

“It’s actually a gift that we have a 78-year-old American running for president of the United States,” the left-leaning director stated. “Bernie has seen the things many of us have never seen — a pay raise! How about that?”

After the crowd erupted in laughter, Moore added, “A 78-year-old knows what a pension is. Remember that? Look it up. A 78-year-old knows what it looks like to defeat fascism and white supremacy.”

Moore then told attendees it’s time to dump President Trump.

“We need to not only crush Trump at the polls, afterwards, we aim to fix this rotten, corrupt, economic system that gave us Donald Trump,” he said.

The director also endorsed Sanders in the race for the White House in 2016.
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Bernie Sanders slams Amazon over hometown political spending as Seattle elections become a national issue
by Monica Nickelsburg on October 21, 2019 at 9:29 am

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Sen. Bernie Sanders became the latest federal lawmaker to zero in on local Seattle elections Monday morning, slamming Amazon’s hometown political contributions as “out-of-control corporate greed.”

Over the weekend, Sen. Elizabeth Warren and Rep. Pramila Jayapal also called Amazon out for spending $1.45 million on an effort to unseat the Seattle City Council, whose current leadership is often at odds with the tech giant.


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“We are engaging in this election because we want Seattle to have a city government that works,” said Amazon spokesperson Aaron Toso in response to the criticism over the weekend. “Seattle deserves a council that delivers results for all of its residents on issues that matter, like homelessness, transportation, climate change and public safety.”

Previously: Seattle progressives fired up over Amazon’s $1.45M spending on local elections

Amazon was already a frequent target of Democrats running for president in 2020, like Warren and Sanders, but the company’s latest move has elevated an upcoming election that would not ordinarily be a talking point in national politics. The criticism shows how in a few years Big Tech in general — and Amazon in particular — have become political punching bags on the national stage.

Last week, Amazon announced a $1 million donation to the Civic Alliance for a Sound Economy, the political action committee of the Seattle Metro Chamber of Commerce. Amazon has given CASE a total of $1.45 million this election cycle, as the political action committee works to get business-friendly candidates elected to the Seattle City Council next month.

The stakes are high on Nov. 5. Seven of the nine seats are up for grabs and Amazon, frustrated with current leadership, is willing to spend big money to ensure a changing of the guard. The current Seattle City Council regularly enacts the types of progressive policies that candidates like Warren and Sanders would like to see adopted at the national level.

Seattle was one of the first cities in the nation to adopt a $15 minimum wage, a minimum hourly rate Amazon adopted for its employees last year. The City Council passed a landmark law allowing gig economy workers to unionize, though that legislation is still jammed up in lawsuits. Perhaps most ambitiously, the Seattle attempted to pass a tax on the wealthiest corporations in the city to fund affordable housing and homeless services.

That last bit of legislation, known as the “head tax,” is what soured Amazon on the leadership in its hometown. The company decried the plan as a “tax on jobs” and paused construction on a skyscraper in Seattle, threatening to slow down growth if the legislation went through. Ultimately, the City Council passed and then repealed the law before it took effect.


Supporters of the head tax rush the City Council chambers during a vote to repeal the controversial legislation. Behind the banner, Councilmember Kshama Sawant calls for order. (GeekWire Photo / Monica Nickelsburg)
It was the head tax that first elevated Amazon’s behavior in local politics to the national stage. It’s still being discussed more than a year after it was put to rest. Sanders alluded to the fight last week when he unveiled his campaign proposal to reshape corporate America. The proposal says big firms “create laws that benefit them, as we’ve seen with companies like Amazon [that] fight to pay no taxes in the communities where they operate, while at the same time paying nothing in federal taxes.”

Renewed scrutiny of Amazon’s civic behavior in Seattle shows that the head tax was not an isolated incident. With several antitrust inquiries looming and the ire of presidential hopefuls, Amazon will probably remain a target for the foreseeable future.

Monica Nickelsburg is GeekWire’s Civic Editor, covering technology-driven solutions to urban challenges and the intersection of tech and politics. Before joining GeekWire, she worked for The Week, Forbes, and NBC. Monica holds a BA in journalism and history from New York University. Follow her @mnickelsburg
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Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:33 pm

Bernie Sanders defends Tulsi Gabbard, says claim that she's a Russian asset is 'outrageous'
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The congresswoman from Hawaii is joining a growing pool of Democrats ready to take on President Trump. Here are 5 things to know about Rep. Tulsi Gabbard. USA TODAY

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders has added his name to the list of lawmakers defending fellow 2020 presidential candidate, Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, after 2016 Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton made reference to Russians "grooming" her.

"Tulsi Gabbard has put her life on the line to defend this country," Sanders said in a tweet Monday. "People can disagree on issues, but it is outrageous for anyone to suggest that Tulsi is a foreign asset."

Gabbard has seen an outpouring of support from both sides of the political aisle after Clinton made her remarks on a podcast last week. Though Clinton did not use Gabbard's name, the comments appeared to be directed at the veteran.

“I’m not making any predictions, but I think they’ve got their eye on somebody who’s currently in the Democratic primary and they’re grooming her to be the third-party candidate," Clinton said. "She's the favorite of the Russians."

More: U.S. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard says Hillary Clinton 'knows she can't control me'

Gabbard responded to the former secretary of state on Twitter, accusing Clinton of being behind an effort to tarnish her campaign and reputation.

"You, the queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption, and personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party for so long, have finally come out from behind the curtain," Gabbard tweeted.

Gabbard brought up her endorsement of Sanders during the 2016 Democratic primary, which came after she quit as the vice chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee.

"They said Clinton will never forget. That she and her rich and powerful friends, her allies in politics and the media will make sure you’re destroyed," Gabbard said.

Clinton also called President Donald Trump "Vladimir Putin's dream" and referred to 2016 Green Party opponent Jill Stein as a "Russian asset." Stein received about 1% of the vote in 2016.

Trump, too, defended Gabbard on Monday. "She’s accusing everyone of being a Russian agent," the president said. "I don’t know Tulsi, but she’s not a Russian agent."


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Several 2020 Democratic candidates, including author Marianne Williamson, entrepreneur Andrew Yang and former Texas Rep. Beto O'Rourke.

"Tulsi is not being groomed by anyone. She is her own person," O'Rourke said. "Obviously has served this country, continues to serve this country in uniform, in Congress, as a candidate for presidency so I think those facts speak for themselves."

Recognizing their "very different views," South Bend, Ind. Mayor Pete Buttigieg said that he doesn't know what the basis is for the accusation against Gabbard.

"I'd prefer to have the conversation be about policy," Buttigieg said of attacks on his opponents, speaking to CNN.
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Postby stickdog99 » Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:46 pm

overcoming hope » 28 Oct 2019 03:36 wrote:

CNN: Is Bernie's Campaign "Too Urban"?

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LOL. What will they think of next?

"Too Energetic?" (Wait. They have already tried this one.)

"Too Policy Driven"?

"Too Young"?

"Too Diverse"?

"Too Compassionate"?

"Too Responsive"?

"Too Spot On"?

"Too Popular"?
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Bernie Sanders: Netanyahu's government has been racist
“I spent many months on a kibbutz in Israel, [and] I believe absolutely not only in the right of Israel to exist but the right to exist in peace and security," Sanders said.

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Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) speaks after the senate voted on a resolution ending U.S. military support for the war in Yemen on Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S., December 13, 2018.. (photo credit: REUTERS/JOSHUA ROBERTS)
WASHINGTON – Vermont Senator and Democratic presidential hopeful, Bernie Sanders, said on Monday that he hopes to become the first Jewish president of the US.

“I am very proud to be Jewish and look forward to being the first Jewish president,” he said in his remarks at the J Street conference in Washington. “I spent many months on a kibbutz in Israel, [and] I believe absolutely not only in the right of Israel to exist but the right to exist in peace and security. That’s not a question. But what I also believe is the Palestinian people have a right to live in peace and security as well. It is not antisemitism to say that [Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s] government has been racist.”

Speaking about his plans to solve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, he said he would “demand” that the Israeli government sit down with the Palestinian people, “and negotiate an agreement that works for all parties.”
“My proposal in terms of Israeli-Palestinian efforts is not a radical proposal,” he continued. “All it says is that we need an even-hand proposal for both people. What is going on in Gaza right now, for example, is absolutely inhumane. It is unacceptable. It is unsustainable.”

He addressed the US military assistance to Israel and said it could be used as leverage on the Israeli government. “I would use the leverage of $3.8 billion – it is a lot of money, and we cannot give it carte blanche to the Israeli government, or for that matter to any government at all. We have a right to demand respect for human rights and democracy.”

Asked about the closure of the Palestinian consulate in east Jerusalem, Sanders said that “what [US President Donald] Trump has done is disgraceful. As president of the United States, of course, we would reach out and re-established relationships [with the Palestinians].

He added that it isn’t only Netanyahu’s government that has been the problem. “Let us recognize there has been corruption in terms of Hamas and the Palestinian Authority,” he said. “Let’s recognize that as well.”

The senator also called the situation in Gaza “unsustainable,” and said, “I think it is fair to say that some of that $3.8b. should go right now into humanitarian aid in Gaza.”

Asked about whether Netanyahu and Trump made the support for Israel a partisan issue, Sanders responded: “You’re looking at leaders – one is going to be impeached, the other one may end up in jail, so I don’t know how much credibility they have, actually in terms of integrity.”
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'Squad' members tweet support for Pressley after she splits with group by endorsing Warren
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Progressive freshman Reps. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) on Wednesday showed support for fellow “squad” member Rep. Ayanna Pressley (D-Mass.) after she broke from the group and endorsed Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) in the presidential primary.

Omar and Ocasio-Cortez tweeted heart emojis in response to Pressley’s video announcing her support for Warren in the 2020 race.

Omar, Ocasio-Cortez and Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) have endorsed Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) in the primary race.

In her endorsement, Pressley said Warren’s plans are about "power, who has it, who refused to let it go, and who deserves more of it.”

“For Elizabeth and for me, power belongs in the hands of the people," Pressley said. "That's why she's fighting for fundamental change that restores power to those who've been left behind and centers those who've never had access to it in the first place."

Pressley is slated to make her first appearance on the campaign trail with Warren at a town hall meeting in Raleigh, N.C., on Thursday, according to BuzzFeed News.

The congresswoman served as a surrogate for Hillary Clinton in the 2016 primaries.

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Postby RocketMan » Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:00 am

To me, this is of course... well, not good.

But, I think the rest of the Squad "excommunicating" Pressley, or even reading her the riot act for this was never in the cards.

That AOC, Omar and Tlaib vocally and enthusiastically endorsed Sanders is already going pretty far up the ledge vis-a-vis the Dem party establishment. And they ARE members of that party, there has never been any doubt about that. Be it unfortunate or otherwise, that's just how things stand. Advocating "realism" in anything political is always a red button for me, but, well, ya know... :shrug:

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'Squad' members tweet support for Pressley after she splits with group by endorsing Warren
BY REBECCA KLAR - 11/06/19 02:44 PM EST 38
Progressive freshman Reps. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) on Wednesday showed support for fellow “squad” member Rep. Ayanna Pressley (D-Mass.) after she broke from the group and endorsed Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) in the presidential primary.

Omar and Ocasio-Cortez tweeted heart emojis in response to Pressley’s video announcing her support for Warren in the 2020 race.

Omar, Ocasio-Cortez and Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) have endorsed Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) in the primary race.

In her endorsement, Pressley said Warren’s plans are about "power, who has it, who refused to let it go, and who deserves more of it.”

“For Elizabeth and for me, power belongs in the hands of the people," Pressley said. "That's why she's fighting for fundamental change that restores power to those who've been left behind and centers those who've never had access to it in the first place."

Pressley is slated to make her first appearance on the campaign trail with Warren at a town hall meeting in Raleigh, N.C., on Thursday, according to BuzzFeed News.

The congresswoman served as a surrogate for Hillary Clinton in the 2016 primaries.

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Re: SANDERS 2020 is seriously dangerous <3

Postby Elvis » Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:42 am

I think supporters of both Sanders and Warren must avoid any stubborn "my candidate or I don't vote" kind of stuff. The gap between Sanders and Warren may seem big, but get real: if Trump has moved things three steps backwards (in a host of arenas), even Warren would take it forward two, three or even four steps forward. Anything like Medicare for All would be forward progress. Once Americans have M4A and find they have better care and that M4A is saving[ them money, they will never give it up.

Be glad that it's Warren who's polling more or less evenly with Sanders—and not Uncle Joe or college-boy Pete. If Warren turns out to be more popular in the primaries, anyone who wants the current wrecking crew out must throw their unqualified support and their primary VOTE to her. And then of course vote in the general.

See the piece about the economist James Buchanan over in the MMT thread. Trump is enabling the worst of the big-business libertarians and those motherfuckers have big plans. Bickering over Sanders vs. Warren could be (literal) suicide.

That said....

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Re: SANDERS 2020 is seriously dangerous <3

Postby liminalOyster » Thu Nov 07, 2019 2:34 pm

I largely agree, Elvis. But Warren's unwillingness to endorse Bernie in 2016 is far too indicative of something unacceptable for me to ever be fully comfortable with her.
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Re: SANDERS 2020 is seriously dangerous <3

Postby Elvis » Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:43 pm

Hell, I'm not even "completely comfortable" with Bernie Sanders. But I feel 10x better about Sanders than I do about any of the others.

When Bernie wasn't nominated, enough of his supporters refused to vote, giving the advantage to Trump. If nothing else, look at Trump's SCOTUS appointments; we could expect HRC's nominees to be MOR pro-business types, but nothing so quite disastrous as what we got.

If Trump gets a second term, the real gutting begins. I'd rather be a little "uncomfortable" with Warren than watch the misery of millions get the whole system of social services ripped out from under them. Because that's the plan, and the plan includes making it almost impossible to undo.
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