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Re: Welcome to Hong Kong City Run By Police & Gangsters

Postby chump » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:05 am


Support the Hong Kong protestors against the brutal mainland Chinese regime
by Jon Rappoport
October 14, 2019

Let’s get one thing straight. The Chinese people, whether they appear happy or sad, support their government because they’re controlled. After generations of being beaten down, the population bows the head and bends the knee to slave masters. Call that freedom if you want to.

And if you really believe the situation in America is no better than the system in China, even with the amount of censorship alive and well in America, even with the rigging of this economy, try an experiment. Move to China and start publishing articles relentlessly critical of the government there. See what happens. Be sure to leave a copy of your last Will and Testament at home.

When the NBA commissioner and several players talk about loving their Chinese fans, they’re referring to victims of long-term terrorism. And if you press the NBA people on that point, they say, “We just want to play basketball, we just want the games.”

And they want the money. The Nike money, the Chinese money, the television money, the other merchandise money. More Chinese people than Americans watch the NBA playoffs on TV.

When, in a momentary fit of sanity, the General Manager of the Houston Rockets, Daryl Morey, retweeted FIGHT FOR FREEDOM, STAND WITH HONG KONG, the Chinese government launched a shit storm. Blacked out pre-season games, canceled press conferences, attacked NBA Commissioner Adam Silver for (partially and weakly) defending free speech. Now, calls are going out for Daryl Morey to resign from his job, to appease the Chinese government.

The big fear? A few global NBA stars would decide to step up and defend the million Hong Kong protestors, who want to knock down a bill that would allow China to extradite “criminal suspects” from Hong Kong to the mainland, where they can be charged, imprisoned, tortured, murdered. Those number one Hong Kong suspects would be persons who oppose the mainland Chinese regime.

The NBA stars, speaking out, could ignite a worldwide conflagration of public outrage aimed at the brutal government of China.

So far, that fear is unfounded. Social justice warriors LeBron James, (coaches) Steve Kerr and Gregg Popovich are silent on the specific issue of Hong Kong vs. China. No one connected to the NBA is addressing it.

We have what George Washington warned about: an entangling foreign alliance. The US, China, money.

You have to wonder at the curious timing of all this now. The Chinese government, seizing on one little tweet, blows sky high, just when NBA players, coaches, and the commissioner happen to be in China on a good will money-pumping tour. It’s as if the Chinese government wanted an excuse to attack the US, because Trump has been stirring the pot on US-China trade relations. Obliquely, the Communist dictatorship wants to demonstrate how far they’ll go to crack down against any outside criticism, and against readjustment of trade that currently favors China. Grossly favors China. (We’ll see just how good or bad the new Trump trade deal with China is.)

Who is in charge of keeping NBA players in a state of silence and compliance with the wishes of the Chinese leadership? The NBA, yes. But more importantly, the shoe companies. Nike, Adidas. They have enormous business in China. Mustn’t disturb THAT. Every famous NBA player has a big $$ shoe deal. Mustn’t endanger THAT money, either. So shut up. Play ball. Stay ignorant of politics.

Entangling alliances.

The Chinese leadership is, in effect, daring the NBA to cut ties with China and lose billions. “If your balls are made of money, we have you by the balls.”

Why did the Rockefellers want to open up China trade with the West those many years ago? Why not, say, populous India instead? After all, India had some budding semblance of a representative government. Contrasted against China, India was Thomas Paine. The Rockefellers favored China because they LIKED China’s system. Massive top-down control. Absolute censorship. Violent repression. Mind control. Thus, a way to own and direct huge numbers of people and pacify them through fear and terror. Decade after decade. A GOOD MODEL FOR THE WORLD.

An American friend described an incident he witnessed years ago when he was sitting on a tour bus in China. He and his buddy were the only Americans on board. An argument broke out between two Chinese tour guides at the front of the bus. At that moment, all the Chinese passengers bowed their heads and stared at the floor. This was their reflex reaction to a dispute between two low-level officials.

So you can imagine their responses to leadership at the top. Total submission.

These are the NBA fans who have a love affair with US players. And vice versa.

Orwell, 1984: “But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.”

Orwell: “If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face — forever.”

Or perhaps a shoe, manufactured by Nike, in China.

Suppose MANY customers of Nike stop buying their shoes.

Suppose MANY NBA fans stop going to the games.

Suppose MANY viewers stop watching the games on TV.

Suppose MANY more social media users relentlessly spread messages supporting the Hong Kong protestors and exposing the brutal Chinese regime.

Suppose independent researchers begin publishing lists of products made in China and bought in the US, so consumers can avoid them.

Suppose many more people wake up to the fact that the economic glue that holds Globalism together is insane—domestic manufacturers abandon their home country and set up shop in places (like China) where they make their products far more cheaply; where wages are very low and environmental concerns are nil; and then, export those products for sale back home, thereby putting competing domestic companies out of business. Suppose many more people come to see this as economic suicide. Suppose they see Globalism itself as planned suicide. Planned to raise up certain countries ruled by brutal dictators, and sink other countries where some semblance of freedom still exists. And suppose they see this plan as a strategy for bringing about planet-wide repression under any label you care to use, but turns out to be Rule by Giant Corporations and Banks Colluding with Governments over All of Earth. No exceptions permitted.

And suppose the 7.7 billion targets of this plan realize they’re all the real Deplorables, and consequently say NO.

With the many avenues of communication available to us, that could be a tidal wave of NO.

If you want to dig still further down, into the basics of economics, consider: relatively free markets can only function within a context where the playing field is level for competitors—the costs of manufacturing, marketing, and selling products are the same for everyone. Once you permit the massive import of goods from places where those costs are radically lower, you are rigging the game. The home country suffers. Companies shut down. Workers have no jobs. The general level of prosperity, whatever it was, keeps decaying. No matter how you slant and massage the numbers, no matter how many cockeyed theories you spawn, the outcome is unavoidable.

Compound this engineered tragedy by permitting those massive imports to come from a country where the citizens are rigidly controlled by a criminal regime; enter into a huge number of economic agreements with that regime; turn a blind eye to what that regime has been doing to its people; and you have a sacrifice of freedom on all fronts.

Then there is a chokehold. And then, on any occasion, for any reason, the brutal regime will issue a command:

Don’t dare criticize us;

We’re in this together;

We have no principles and neither do you.

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https://www.radios.cz/en/articles/who-i ... -protests/

Who is behind the Hong Kong protest?
by Wei Xinyan and Zhong Weiping, China Daily
8-17-2019

It's not hard to imagine the United States' reaction if Chinese diplomats met leaders of Occupy Wall Street, Black Lives Matter or Never Trump protesters.

On Aug 6, Hong Kong media reported two meetings between a US political counselor and separatist leaders. Julie Eadeh, who works at the US Consulate General in Hong Kong, was caught on camera meeting with opposition figures Martin Lee and Anson Chan.

[…]

China has repeatedly asked US to stop interfering in other countries’ domestic affairs but it seems the latter has no intention of withdrawing its "meddling hand".

The protest’s messaging, and the groups associated with it, raise a number of questions about just how organic the movement is.

MintPress News, a US news website, has reported that some groups involved in recent rioting in Hong Kong received significant funding from the National Endowment for Democracy, which it described as "a CIA soft-power cutout that has played a critical role in innumerable US regime-change operations".

[…]

NED doesn't hide its support for "democratization" in certain Asian countries, proclaiming on its website: "In 2017, the Endowment prioritized countries in Asia ... where the NED was positioned to have the greatest impact. Building upon NED's strategy from previous years, programs continued to be concentrated on key countries within each sub-region."

Voice of America interviewed Louisa Greve, then vice-president of NED's programs for Asia, the Middle East and North Africa, in 2014. It said the organization had been funding programs in Hong Kong for about two decades, with grants totaling several million dollars. Greve said the level of support had been consistent during that period.

VOA said NED's three partners in Hong Kong were the US-based Solidarity Center and Hong Kong Human Rights Monitor, which received grants of around $150,000 and had been working in Hong Kong since 1997, and the US National Democratic Institute, which had a $400,000 grant.

MintPress News said NED funding for groups in Hong Kong actually dates back to 1994, with HKHRM receiving more than $1.9 million between 1995 and 2013.

The NED's website shows it granted $155,000 to SC and $200,000 to NDI for work in Hong Kong, and $90,000 to Hong Kong Justice Center in 2018. NDI received $650,000 from 2016 to 2017, and SC received $459,865 from 2015 to 2017.

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Re: Welcome to Hong Kong City Run By Police & Gangsters

Postby DrEvil » Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:28 pm

I asked a friend what it's like to live in China.
He said: I can't complain.
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Re: Welcome to Hong Kong City Run By Police & Gangsters

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:00 am

NEWS
Clashes as fresh anti-government protests hit Hong Kong
An anti-government protest in Hong Kong has turned violent, with police and protesters exchanging tear gas and petrol bombs. The march took place despite recent attacks on protesters.
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Protesters in Hong Kong with umbrellas (Reuters/K. Kyung-Hoon)
Crowds of protesters staged an illegal march through the Hong Kong district of Kowloon on Sunday, many masked in defiance of laws forbidding face coverings at public gatherings.
The march ended in violent exchanges, with Hong Kong police firing tear gas canisters at protesters from inside a police station in Tsim Sha Tsui. The police also deployed water cannon, firing abrasive dye at thousands of protesters.
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A water cannon filled with blue dye is deployed by police in Hong Kong
Police in Hong Kong used a water cannon to disperse protesters gathered around a police station.
A hard core of protesters threw Molotov cocktails at the station's iron gate and into the police station compound.
Along the route, protesters trashed storefronts and metro stations, started fires and set up makeshift roadblocks.
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A protester throws a petrol bomb at a police station while police fire tear gas
Protesters defied police to take to the streets
They sang songs and waved placards depicting the Chinese flag as a Nazi swastika. A black banner at the front of the protest stated "Five main demands, not one less," referring to their demands of accountability and political rights.
Prior to the march, Hong Kong tightened security, stopping some metro services and closing public facilities, while pro-democracy leaders called on citizens to join the protest in spite of the risk of arrest.
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Crowds of protesters in Hong Kong
Thousands turned out to march for democracy in Hong Kong
Police had prohibited the march in the city's Kowloon district due to public safety concerns, and a court said the destination of the march — the main rail interchange with mainland China — was at risk of being attacked and vandalized.
Organizers vowed to go through with the event even if it remained banned by police, because Hong Kong's constitution guarantees the right to protest.

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Protesters oppose anti-mask law
Read more: Hong Kong crisis: What you need to know
"We don't think that because police haven't given their approval we shouldn't demonstrate," Figo Chan, vice-convener of the Civil Human Rights Front, said. "Even though they have rejected our appeal, there will surely be many residents taking to the streets."
At the city's high-speed rail station in Kowloon, a number of areas were closed off and only passengers carrying tickets were permitted to enter. Food and beverage outlets were also closed.
On Saturday police arrested a 22-year-old man in connection with a knife attack on a teenager who was stabbed and wounded while he was handing out leaflets. A prominent human rights activist, Jimmy Sham, was attacked by men with knives this earlier this week, an attack pro-democracy lawmakers say was designed to intimidate protesters.
Jimmy Sham, convener of the Civil Human Rights Front (CHRF), poses during an interview in Hong Kong in August
Jimmy Sham, convener of the Civil Human Rights Front (CHRF), poses during an interview in Hong Kong in August
Read more: Hong Kong protesters defy face mask ban — with humor
The protest is seen as a test for the movement's strength following more than four months of unrest. Demonstrators are trying to maintain pressure on the government to respond to their demands, which include full democracy and an independent inquiry into alleged police brutality.
Hong Kong has seen relative calm over the past two weeks after violent protests sparked by the invocation of colonial-era emergency laws last used in the city more than 50 years ago, including a ban on face coverings, which protesters defied at recent rallies.

Read more: 'Hong Kong mob' — How mainland Chinese see the democracy movement
Ahead of Sunday's protests, hundreds of people gathered for a prayer sit-in on Saturday night, and on Friday protesters formed a human chain along the metro network.
In the past, thousands of people have defied police to stage mass rallies. These rallies have often begun peacefully but then devolved into violence at night.
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Re: Welcome to Hong Kong City Run By Police & Gangsters

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:11 am

Hong Kong Completes Process of Extradition Bill's Withdrawal
Hong Kong’s security minister announced Wednesday the formal withdrawal of the extradition bill that has sparked months of protests in the territory. The procedure makes good a pledge to scrap the detested measure made last month by the enclave’s embattled leader, Chief Executive Carrie Lam.

“The government has expressed several times that the work [related to the bill] had completely stopped. Now, in order to more clearly illustrate the government’s stance on the bill, I … formally announce the withdrawal of the bill,” John Lee said in the Legislative Council as pro-democracy lawmakers called for his resignation.

The formality may ease some tensions but it remains to be seen whether or not it will put an end to Hong Kong’s civil unrest, which has escalated from the initial opposition to the bill into a push for greater political freedom.

Kenneth Chan, a political science professor at Hong Kong Baptist University, told TIME that the procedure was “a belated response to the growing anger of Hong Kong people, and it’s come to the point that it may no longer even be relevant in terms of calming society down.”

He added: “The protests have evolved further now. It’s not only about the law, but a full-scale governance crisis concerning police measures and the lack of political accountability of the Carrie Lam administration. For restoring trust, a proper independent investigation [into alleged police brutality] is necessary, and it would help a lot if Beijing and the Hong Kong government can consider opening the democratization process.”

Coincidentally, the man whose case was cited by the Hong Kong government as a pressing reason to implement the bill walked free from prison today.

Chan Tong-kai, 20, completed a sentence for money laundering, relating to the theft and sale of items belonging to his girlfriend, whom he reportedly confessed to murdering while on a visit to Taiwan. Hong Kong officials had consistently argued that amendments to existing extradition laws were needed in order for Chan to be returned to Taiwan to stand trial for the murder.

“The Taiwan murder case has set the clock ticking,” Lam told media in April. “We don’t want the suspect to escape.”

However, the legal amendments that the government attempted to fast track in order to render Chan to Taiwan also contained provisions for the extradition of suspects to several other jurisdictions, including, for the first time, mainland China.

Critics feared that the Chinese Communist Party would use the new measure to round up dissidents other political opponents in Hong Kong, which was retroceded to China in 1997 after 156 years as a British colony. Hongkongers marched in their millions to voice their displeasure at what they saw as a violation of the semi-autonomous enclave’s cherished freedoms, and the city has been in crisis ever since.

—With reporting by Hillary Leung / Hong Kong
https://time.com/5707831/hong-kong-extr ... ithdrawal/
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Re: Welcome to Hong Kong City Run By Police & Gangsters

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:08 pm

‘Hong Kong: White Terror’ in the City of Fear
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HONG KONG — As tear gas, rubber bullets, and gasoline bombs continue to dominate weekends in Hong Kong, and the pro-democracy protests show no sign of abating, something more pernicious is also unfolding in the city.

Locals call it ‘baahk sik hung bou,’ or ‘white terror,’ and it refers to a systematic program of intimidation to instill fear and deter political dissent in the city.

“The fear is designed to keep people off the streets. It’s the biggest enemy for the protesters,” Carmen Li Ka-man, a sociology student at Shue Yan University and part-time reporter for a local news agency, told WhoWhatWhy. “I think it’s exactly a white terror.”

White Shirts and Bamboo Poles

The term can be traced back to 1927, when Chinese nationalist leader Chiang Kai Shek used armed triad (gangster) thugs to brutally suppress his Communist rivals and their allies in Shanghai. It has been used to describe the current situation in Hong Kong ever since July 21, when a white-shirted mob wielding bamboo poles and thought to be associated with triads indiscriminately attacked terrified passengers at the Yuen Long subway station in Kowloon, the city’s mainland area.

This month, the Civil Human Rights Front convener, Jimmy Sham Tsz-kit, was brutally attacked by a gang armed with hammers; he was rushed by ambulance to a hospital. In a separate violent incident in the same month, a 19-year-old student was stabbed in the neck and stomach while handing out anti-government leaflets in the Tai Po district in Kowloon.

“Some of my university friends will never wear a black T-shirt in public, because pro-Beijing gangs will attack you because they assume if you are young and wear a black T-shirt, you must be a rioter,” Li said.


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When the naked body of 15-year-old student protester, Chan Yin-lam, was found in the sea three days after she was last seen on her school campus on September 19, many protesters claimed the girl had been murdered by police or gangsters and her corpse dumped as a grim warning to others. They suspected the crime was being covered up. After extensive protests, her parents felt obliged to make a public statement insisting their daughter had mental-health problems and that it was a tragic case of teenage suicide.

There is no evidence to support the theory that violent criminal acts are funded or sanctioned by the Hong Kong government or by Beijing. But the authorities are clearly responsible for introducing a more oppressive style of policing.

The familiar fresh-faced police officers wearing berets and patrolling in pairs have virtually disappeared from Hong Kong streets. Instead, groups of armed riot police assemble in public places wearing masks and helmets, and stare intimidatingly at passers-by.

Social media is rife with reports of knife attacks, beatings, rapes, and sexual abuse of protesters in police custody. Most reports are impossible to verify, but the impact of the white terror penetrates all parts of society.

Corporations fear doing anything to offend Beijing. When, in late September, corporate lawyer and democracy activist Jason Ng felt compelled to resign from the French investment bank BNP Paribas, Joshua Wong, founder of Demosistō, an organisation advocating self-determination for Hong Kong, tweeted that the incident “shows that China’s white terror tactic has stretched out its reach to European countries.”

A British Hong Kong resident told WhoWhatWhy she would not dare make any comment on social media about the current political situation in Hong Kong for fear of jeopardizing the career of her husband, who works as a pilot for Cathay Pacific Airways. Several Cathay staff have been sacked for expressing pro-democracy views, in actions widely believed to be a response to direct pressure from Beijing.

In a quiet bar, far from the hotspots of the protests, a neighbor showed me a text message she received from her son’s school. It informed her that children were now banned from wearing surgical face masks (a common practice in Hong Kong for public hygiene reasons). The message instructed her to sign a letter of agreement and return it to the school immediately.

The message comports with Hong Kong Chief Executive Carrie Lam’s anti-mask law, introduced on October 4 after she invoked an emergency-powers provision dating back to 1922, when Hong Kong was under British colonial rule. Under that provision Lam has claimed the right to introduce any policy she believes to be necessary to maintain public order. It is now illegal to wear a mask at a public gathering (including school).

The face-mask ban is not as arbitrary as it may seem. Facial-recognition technology and video surveillance are endemic in mainland Chinese cities, where police routinely use the technology as an internal security tool. Bloomberg recently revealed that, for at least three years, Hong Kong police have had access to facial-recognition and video-surveillance technology from an Australian tech company called iOmniscient. It’s not known if the technology is being used to identify protesters or schoolchildren in Hong Kong, but, not surprisingly, protesters have been seen damaging and dismantling surveillance-TV masts on city streets.

Ordinary people have grown afraid to venture into the city center, not just because of fear of tear gas and rubber bullets, but out of concern they won’t be able to get home again. Public transport is often disabled and shut down early, creating a de facto curfew on weekends. Self-censorship is rife in the city; numerous public events, from ballet to swimming races, have been canceled on “safety grounds.”

The pro-democracy movement has at times given rise to attacks of its own. Radical protesters have vandalized Chinese-owned banks and pro-Beijing business premises. People heard speaking in Putonghua dialect — the official dialect of mainland China, known in the West as Mandarin — have been publicly abused or even assaulted.

Despite the face-mask ban, most protesters insist on covering their faces before they allow their photo to be taken, even at legal assemblies where they are committing no crime. They explain that, at some point in the future they may need to apply for a job, a place in university, a travel visa, or a mortgage, and they fear their photo will be kept on file and used to deny their application.

As Li put it: “If you do oppose the government, then you are in danger.”
https://whowhatwhy.org/2019/10/29/hong- ... y-of-fear/
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Re: Welcome to Hong Kong City Run By Police & Gangsters

Postby lucky » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:04 am

So have people seen the video clip of the Chinese man being covered in a flammable liquid and set alight ? It seems to be hidden away, but is very brutal and would make one possibly turn against the protestors... so hard these days to know what is real/true.
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