The Cruelty Is the Point

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The Cruelty Is the Point

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:40 am

I understand some people just have to be cruel, it is in their DNA they just can not help themselves

Last year, Adam Serwer published a phenomenal article about Trump and his supporters titled "The Cruelty Is The Point". His no-nonsense tour of Trumpdom outraged conservatives, who were uncomfortable being seen as fellow travelers to smirking alt-right trolls. Even liberal media, which patronizingly casts Trump as the sigh of the oppressed Cletus, objected to Serwer's straightforward explanation of why people support his lies, atrocities and outrages.

Anyway, here's Ben Shapiro praising Trump as "so cruel" in that fawning nasal whimper of his.
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The Cruelty Is the Point
President Trump and his supporters find community by rejoicing in the suffering of those they hate and fear.
OCT 3, 2018

Adam Serwer
The Museum of African-American History and Culture is in part a catalog of cruelty. Amid all the stories of perseverance, tragedy, and unlikely triumph are the artifacts of inhumanity and barbarism: the child-size slave shackles, the bright red robes of the wizards of the Ku Klux Klan, the recordings of civil-rights protesters being brutalized by police.

The artifacts that persist in my memory, the way a bright flash does when you close your eyes, are the photographs of lynchings. But it’s not the burned, mutilated bodies that stick with me. It’s the faces of the white men in the crowd. There’s the photo of the lynching of Thomas Shipp and Abram Smith in Indiana in 1930, in which a white man can be seen grinning at the camera as he tenderly holds the hand of his wife or girlfriend. There’s the undated photo from Duluth, Minnesota, in which grinning white men stand next to the mutilated, half-naked bodies of two men lashed to a post in the street—one of the white men is straining to get into the picture, his smile cutting from ear to ear. There’s the photo of a crowd of white men huddled behind the smoldering corpse of a man burned to death; one of them is wearing a smart suit, a fedora hat, and a bright smile.

Their names have mostly been lost to time. But these grinning men were someone’s brother, son, husband, father. They were human beings, people who took immense pleasure in the utter cruelty of torturing others to death—and were so proud of doing so that they posed for photographs with their handiwork, jostling to ensure they caught the eye of the lens, so that the world would know they’d been there. Their cruelty made them feel good, it made them feel proud, it made them feel happy. And it made them feel closer to one another.

The Trump era is such a whirlwind of cruelty that it can be hard to keep track. This week alone, the news broke that the Trump administration was seeking to ethnically cleanse more than 193,000 American children of immigrants whose temporary protected status had been revoked by the administration, that the Department of Homeland Security had lied about creating a database of children that would make it possible to unite them with the families the Trump administration had arbitrarily destroyed, that the White House was considering a blanket ban on visas for Chinese students, and that it would deny visas to the same-sex partners of foreign officials. At a rally in Mississippi, a crowd of Trump supporters cheered as the president mocked Christine Blasey Ford, the psychology professor who has said that Brett Kavanaugh, whom Trump has nominated to a lifetime appointment on the Supreme Court, attempted to rape her when she was a teenager. “Lock her up!” they shouted.

Ford testified to the Senate, utilizing her professional expertise to describe the encounter, that one of the parts of the incident she remembered most was Kavanaugh and his friend Mark Judge laughing at her as Kavanaugh fumbled at her clothing. “Indelible in the hippocampus is the laughter,” Ford said, referring to the part of the brain that processes emotion and memory, “the uproarious laughter between the two, and their having fun at my expense.” And then at Tuesday’s rally, the president made his supporters laugh at her.

Even those who believe that Ford fabricated her account, or was mistaken in its details, can see that the president’s mocking of her testimony renders all sexual-assault survivors collateral damage. Anyone afraid of coming forward, afraid that she would not be believed, can now look to the president to see her fears realized. Once malice is embraced as a virtue, it is impossible to contain.

The cruelty of the Trump administration’s policies, and the ritual rhetorical flaying of his targets before his supporters, are intimately connected. As Lili Loofbourow wrote of the Kavanaugh incident in Slate, adolescent male cruelty toward women is a bonding mechanism, a vehicle for intimacy through contempt. The white men in the lynching photos are smiling not merely because of what they have done, but because they have done it together.


We can hear the spectacle of cruel laughter throughout the Trump era. There were the border-patrol agents cracking up at the crying immigrant children separated from their families, and the Trump adviser who delighted white supremacists when he mocked a child with Down syndrome who was separated from her mother. There were the police who laughed uproariously when the president encouraged them to abuse suspects, and the Fox News hosts mocking a survivor of the Pulse Nightclub massacre (and in the process inundating him with threats), the survivors of sexual assault protesting to Senator Jeff Flake, the women who said the president had sexually assaulted them, and the teen survivors of the Parkland school shooting. There was the president mocking Puerto Rican accents shortly after thousands were killed and tens of thousands displaced by Hurricane Maria, the black athletes protesting unjustified killings by the police, the women of the #MeToo movement who have come forward with stories of sexual abuse, and the disabled reporter whose crime was reporting on Trump truthfully. It is not just that the perpetrators of this cruelty enjoy it; it is that they enjoy it with one another. Their shared laughter at the suffering of others is an adhesive that binds them to one another, and to Trump.

Taking joy in that suffering is more human than most would like to admit. Somewhere on the wide spectrum between adolescent teasing and the smiling white men in the lynching photographs are the Trump supporters whose community is built by rejoicing in the anguish of those they see as unlike them, who have found in their shared cruelty an answer to the loneliness and atomization of modern life.

The laughter undergirds the daily spectacle of insincerity, as the president and his aides pledge fealty to bedrock democratic principles they have no intention of respecting. The president who demanded the execution of five black and Latino teenagers for a crime they didn’t commit decrying “false accusations,” when his Supreme Court nominee stands accused; his supporters who fancy themselves champions of free speech meet references to Hillary Clinton or a woman whose only crime was coming forward to offer her own story of abuse with screams of “Lock her up!” The political movement that elected a president who wanted to ban immigration by adherents of an entire religion, who encourages police to brutalize suspects, and who has destroyed thousands of immigrant families for violations of the law less serious than those of which he and his coterie stand accused, now laments the state of due process.

This isn’t incoherent. It reflects a clear principle: Only the president and his allies, his supporters, and their anointed are entitled to the rights and protections of the law, and if necessary, immunity from it. The rest of us are entitled only to cruelty, by their whim. This is how the powerful have ever kept the powerless divided and in their place, and enriched themselves in the process.

A blockbuster New York Times investigation on Tuesday reported that President Trump’s wealth was largely inherited through fraudulent schemes, that he became a millionaire while still a child, and that his fortune persists in spite of his fumbling entrepreneurship, not because of it. The stories are not unconnected. The president and his advisers have sought to enrich themselves at taxpayer expense; they have attempted to corrupt federal law-enforcement agencies to protect themselves and their cohorts, and they have exploited the nation’s darkest impulses in the pursuit of profit. But their ability to get away with this fraud is tied to cruelty.

Trump’s only true skill is the con; his only fundamental belief is that the United States is the birthright of straight, white, Christian men, and his only real, authentic pleasure is in cruelty. It is that cruelty, and the delight it brings them, that binds his most ardent supporters to him, in shared scorn for those they hate and fear: immigrants, black voters, feminists, and treasonous white men who empathize with any of those who would steal their birthright. The president’s ability to execute that cruelty through word and deed makes them euphoric. It makes them feel good, it makes them feel proud, it makes them feel happy, it makes them feel united. And as long as he makes them feel that way, they will let him get away with anything, no matter what it costs them.
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Re: The Cruelty Is the Point

Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:58 am

Q. What is the point of a whole new thread for this plangent boilerplate, first published in October 2018?

A. The Flooding Is The Point.
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Re: The Cruelty Is the Point

Postby Jerky » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:36 pm

Well, we certainly know the point of your "reply", CrookShank.
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Re: The Cruelty Is the Point

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:12 pm

Thanks for sharing this, seemslikeadream. I don't recall reading it when it first came out, but in light of recent attempts to equate lynching with the poster child for white privilege, I appreciate your effort to let Serwer's message reverberate.
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Re: The Cruelty Is the Point

Postby peartreed » Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:08 pm

Adam Serwer's article is also illustrative of a primitive form of cruelty still evident online when men continuously over time gang up on a female participant with cruel, adolescent insult and glee to reinforce one another's complaints and condemnation of her posts.
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Re: The Cruelty Is the Point

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:42 pm

The Cruelty Is the Point

Advocates Say President Trump's Immigration Policy Is 'A Tool Of Cruelty'
October 1, 20197:27 AM ET
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Donald Trump’s passion for cruelty
October 2, 2017 7.28pm EDT Updated October 3, 2017 10.41am EDT
https://theconversation.com/donald-trum ... elty-84819


'Cruel Beyond Imagination': Trump Reportedly Set to Unveil Plan to Detain Immigrant Families Indefinitely
Wednesday, August 21, 2019
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Of those separated during the 12-month period, 207 were younger than 5, said attorney Lee Gelernt of the ACLU, which sued to stop family separation. Five were under a year old, 26 were 1 year old, 40 were 2 years old, 76 were 3, and 60 were 4.

Number of Children Separated at Border Exceeds 5,400

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SAN DIEGO (AP) — U.S. immigration authorities separated more than 1,500 children from their parents at the Mexico border in the Trump administration, the American Civil Liberties Union said Thursday, bringing the total number of children separated since July 2017 to more than 5,400.


A Central America toddler runs down a hallway after being sent from an immigration jail center to a shelter in San Diego. (AP file photo/Gregory Bull)
The ACLU said the administration told its attorneys that 1,556 children were separated from July 1, 2017, to June 26, 2018, when a federal judge in San Diego ordered that children in government custody be reunited with their parents.

Children from that period can be difficult to find because the government has inadequate tracking systems. Volunteers working with the ACLU are searching for some of them and their parents by going door to door in Guatemala and Honduras.

Of those separated during the 12-month period, 207 were younger than 5, said attorney Lee Gelernt of the ACLU, which sued to stop family separation. Five were under a year old, 26 were 1 year old, 40 were 2 years old, 76 were 3, and 60 were 4.

“It is shocking that 1,556 more families, including babies and toddlers, join the thousands of others already torn apart by this inhumane and illegal policy,” Gelernt said. “Families have suffered tremendously, and some may never recover.”

The Justice Department declined comment.

The count is a milestone in accounting for families hurt by Trump’s widely maligned effort against immigration. The government identified 2,814 separated children who were in government custody on June 26, 2018, nearly all of whom have been reunited with their parents

The U.S. Health and Human Services Department’s internal watchdog said in January that potentially thousands more had been separated since July 2017, prompting U.S. District Judge Dana Sabraw to give the administration six months to identify them. The ACLU said it received the last batch of 1,556 names one day before the Friday deadline.

The administration has also separated 1,090 children since the judge ordered a halt to the practice in June 2018 except in limited circumstances, such as threats to child safety or doubts about whether the adult is really the parent.

The ACLU said authorities have abused their discretion by separating families over dubious allegations and minor transgressions, including traffic offenses. It has asked Sabraw to more narrowly define circumstances that would justify separation, which the administration has opposed.

With Thursday’s disclosure, the number of children separated since July 2017 reached 5,460.

The government lacked tracking systems when the administration launched a “zero tolerance” policy in the spring of 2018 to criminally prosecute every adult who entered the country without proper documents from Mexico, sparking an international outcry when parents couldn’t find their children.

Poor tracking before the spring of 2018 complicates the task of accounting for children who were separated. As of Oct. 16, the ACLU said, volunteers could not reach 362 families by phone because numbers didn’t work or the sponsor who took custody was unable or unwilling to provide contact information for the parent, prompting the door-to-door searches in Central America.

Since retreating on family separation, the administration has tried other ways to reverse a surge in asylum-seekers, many of them Central American families.

Tens of thousands of Central Americans and Cubans have been returned to Mexico this year to wait for immigration court hearings, instead of being released in the United States with notices to appear in court.

In September, the administration introduced a policy to deny asylum to anyone who passes through another country on the way to the U.S. border with Mexico without seeking protection there first — virtually ending political asylum in the United States.
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Cruelty Is the Point

Postby Cordelia » Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:07 pm

Misc. Cruelty...


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Re: The Cruelty Is the Point

Postby Jerky » Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:20 am

Drone technology came into its own during the Obama presidency. You might as well fault him for using more drones than JFK, or even George Washington.

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Re: The Cruelty Is the Point

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:48 am

Latest pearl of wisdom from The Jerk School Of Ethics In Public Life:

Jerky » Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:20 am wrote:Drone technology came into its own during the Obama presidency. You might as well fault him for using more drones than JFK, or even George Washington.

J.


Inspiring, isn't it?

Atom bomb technology came into its own during the Truman presidency. You might as well fault him for using more atom bombs than FDR, or even George Washington.

Gas chamber technology came into its own during the Hitler administration. You might as well fault him for using more gas chambers than Ebert, or even Bismarck.

Etc.


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Talking of cruelty, there are those who expose it and those who make excuses for it. And there are some who even relish it.

Jerky » Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:00 am wrote: ...

Julian Assange deserves every bad thing that is about to happen to him... and worse. Far, far worse.

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Re: The Cruelty Is the Point

Postby Jerky » Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:09 pm

A teachable moment!

See folks, MacC's comment, above, is what you call an argument made in "bad faith".

What does that mean? Why, it means that the argument being put forward by MacC is so obviously, incredibly STUPID, that even someone of his legendary cranial density couldn't possibly be sincerely suggesting that either a) his blather has anything to do with the argument I put forward, or that b) he believes that his blather has anything to do with the argument I put forward.

Now, as long as we're taking part in an Ethics class (apparently), I would like Mr MacC to enlighten us all by explaining the "ethical" difference between being blasted to bits by ordnance launched from a drone, versus being blasted to bits by a cruise missile, or by bombs dropped from above by a plane.

Bonus question: Which is worse? A Presidential administration that caused over one million "excess deaths" (i.e. innocent civilians murdered) through more "traditional" means? Or an administration that caused just under two thousand such deaths via drone attacks in between 2008-2015?

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Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:15 pm

Pitiful.
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Re: The Cruelty Is the Point

Postby Jerky » Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:19 pm

And yes, FUCK that piece of shit Julian Assange. And fuck his phony Vinny "the Chin" Gigante act.

He deserved to be booted from the Ecuadorian embassy, he deserved to be arrested, he deserves to be extradited to the United States of America (hopefully only after Trump is evicted from the White House, so he can't pardon his partner in crime), and he deserves to be tried for his crimes.

His single good deed (taking part in exposing the gunship video) does not exonerate him for all his subsequent heinous behavior in perpetuity, for fuck's sake.

For what he put Seth Rich's family through alone, he deserves to suffer.

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Postby Jerky » Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:20 pm

You certainly are.

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Re: The Cruelty Is the Point

Postby thrulookingglass » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:25 pm

I don't usually like to post other peoples articles verbatim, but I felt this article was pertinent regarding, shaming, cruelty and the use of indefensible reprisals.

“The basic conventions of public discourse are those of the Enlightenment, in which the use of reason [enabled] us to achieve human objectives,” Offer said as we sat amid piles of books in his cluttered office. “Reason should be tempered by reality, by the facts. So underlining this is a notion of science that confronts reality and is revised by reference to reality. This is the model for how we talk. It is the model for the things we assume. But the reality that has emerged around us has not come out of this process. So our basic conventions only serve to justify existing relationships, structures and hierarchies. Plausible arguments are made for principles that are incompatible with each other.”

Offer cited a concept from social psychology called the just-world theory. “A just-world theory posits that the world is just. People get what they deserve. If you believe that the world is fair you explain or rationalize away injustice, usually by blaming the victim.

“Major ways of thinking about the world constitute just-world theories,” he said. “The Catholic Church is a just-world theory. If the Inquisition burned heretics, they only got what they deserved. Bolshevism was a just-world theory. If Kulaks were starved and exiled, they got what they deserved. Fascism was a just-world theory. If Jews died in the concentration camps, they got what they deserved. The point is not that the good people get the good things, but the bad people get the bad things. Neoclassical economics, our principal source of policy norms, is a just-world theory.”

...“So,” Offer went on, “everyone gets what he or she deserves, either for his or her effort or for his or her property. No one asks how he or she got this property. And if they don’t have it, they probably don’t deserve it. The point about just-world theory is not that it dispenses justice, but that it provides a warrant for inflicting pain.”

...That the Soviet Union had to use so much coercion undermined the credibility of communism as a model of reality. It is perhaps symptomatic that the USA, a society that elevates freedom to the highest position among its values, is also the one that has one of the very largest penal systems in the world relative to its population. It also inflicts violence all over the world. It tolerates a great deal of gun violence, and a health service that excludes large numbers of people.”

...Offer argued that “a silent revolution” took place in economics in the 1970s. “Economists,” he said of the 1970s, “discovered opportunism—a polite term for cheating. Before that, economics had been a just-world defense of the status quo. But when the status quo became the welfare state, suddenly economics became all about cheating. Game theory was about cheating. Public-choice theory was about cheating. Asymmetric information was about cheating. The invisible-hand doctrine tells us there is only one outcome, and that outcome is the best. But once you enter a world of cheating there is no longer one outcome. It is what economists call multiple equilibria, which means there is not a deterministic outcome. The outcome depends on how successful the cheating is. And one of the consequences of this is that economists are not in a strong position to tell society what to do.” - Chris Hedges article / Commondreams.org


The belief that anything curative is accomplished through cruelty is our poison. Degrading others, disguising the true hands that render such malevolent control over the world's population, mocking, scorn, ridicule (tin foil hat conspiracy theorists) is a mode used to sidetrack persons from real fundamental issues that unmask the genesis of maleficence.

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Re: The Cruelty Is the Point

Postby Cordelia » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:26 pm

Ditto Mac's comments.

Jerky » Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:19 am wrote:And yes, FUCK that piece of shit Julian Assange. And fuck his phony Vinny "the Chin" Gigante act.

He deserved to be booted from the Ecuadorian embassy, he deserved to be arrested, he deserves to be extradited to the United States of America (hopefully only after Trump is evicted from the White House, so he can't pardon his partner in crime), and he deserves to be tried for his crimes.

His single good deed (taking part in exposing the gunship video) does not exonerate him for all his subsequent heinous behavior in perpetuity, for fuck's sake.

For what he put Seth Rich's family through alone, he deserves to suffer.


J.


The family sensitivity card; that's rich. And utterly incomprehensible. As if investigative journalism into high crimes (or any investigation) should only be pursued with an eye to how exposure could affect victim family members.
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