the creepiness that is my smartphone

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the creepiness that is my smartphone

Postby kelley » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:25 pm

this has me sort of baffled but here's a question

or rather a few

has anyone's mobile ever sent texts to someone that you didn't write?

or likewise has anyone ever received texts from someone they didn't write?

furthermore if so did these texts occur synchronously as if in conversation?

this happened between a friend and me last night around 2 am while we were each asleep in different parts of the city

and no idea how this may have happened unless it's a type of weirdo hack or maybe (better? who knows) the rudimentary AI in our smartphones going off on its own

i understand from previous experiences that mobile phones do indeed listen in on users but this seems next level creepy in a way that is actually not so surprising

it's just more like uh um okay what the fuck

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: the creepiness that is my smartphone

Postby Elvis » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:59 pm

Great thread to start!

I don't even own one of the damn things. My phone is so dumb it doesn't even have a camera.

kelley, was verbage in the texts familiar-sounding? Or nothing like you'd write yourselves?
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Re: the creepiness that is my smartphone

Postby alloneword » Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:59 pm

Was it standard SMS text messages or something else, like WhatsApp, etc?
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Re: the creepiness that is my smartphone

Postby kelley » Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:07 pm

standard SMS messaging

different smartphones and different providers

but in each case the style, syntax, and vocabulary mimicked the user's

the texts appeared about fifteen minutes apart

two from one smartphone and three from the other

the only anomaly (aside from the entire episode, heh) was the 'conversation' composed of the five texts in question made no sense

so this makes me feel if not better at least able to muster a bit of a chuckle

but still

WTF
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Re: the creepiness that is my smartphone

Postby Elvis » Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:24 pm

Here's the likely explanation...

https://www.popularmechanics.com/techno ... ed-random/
Nov 7, 2019

Lots of people say they received out-of-context texts from friends and family last night. T-Mobile told Popular Mechanics that it was the fault of a third-party vendor.

The texts might have been in response to messages that were originally sent last Valentine's Day, but weirdly delayed until last night.

U.S. Cellular has confirmed that the ghost texts are the result of a glitch in telecommunications infrastructure.



https://mashable.com/article/mystery-te ... om-phones/
Nov. 7, 2019

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"Last evening, a maintenance update occurred to part of the messaging platforms of multiple carriers in the U.S., including Sprint, which caused some customers to have older text messages sent to their devices," a Sprint spokesperson told Mashable over email. "The issue was resolved not long after it occurred."

T-Mobile, when reached for comment, said pretty much the same thing.

"This is not a T-Mobile issue, it’s a third party vendor issue that also affected other networks," a spokesperson told Mashable. "We’re aware of this and it is resolved."

A spokesperson from US Cellular said much the same thing.

"I’m looking into the details but know this issue that impacted some [of] our customers has been identified and corrected," they wrote over email.

We also reached out to Google and Apple to determine if Android or iPhones were affected in any particular way. We received no immediate response.

And while these ghost text may have a real-world explanation, that doesn't mean there still isn't reason to be concerned. That your texts could one day resurface is a scary reminder of the permanence of SMS messages. Maybe, next time, stick to Signal — and then, if your auto-deleting and encrypted messages come back to haunt you, you'll have a real reason to freak.


https://92moose.fm/get-a-strange-text-m ... not-alone/
November 7, 2019

Just after 5 this morning, I was awakened by a text message. Thinking something was wrong, I scrambled for my phone only to discover the text was a response to a message (a wedding DJ quote) I had sent on February 14th.

Apparently, I was not the only one to get a message like this.

All of the messages seem to relate to conversations that happened around Valentines Day.

Curious, I went looking for an answer. I reached out to U. S. Cellular, my carrier and I got an explanation from their help line.

A glitch in last night's (November 6th or early November 7th) update to the cross carrier messaging system caused some people to receive random, early morning, text messages. The glitch affected people on several different cellphone carriers.

The good news is that there is no issue and you don't need to take any action. And, as it was caused by the update, we should not receive any more strange messages.


This apparently happened to a lot of people... Google anticipated my query. I went with "texts i didn't send iphone"
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Re: the creepiness that is my smartphone

Postby kelley » Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:38 pm

A likely story!
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Re: the creepiness that is my smartphone

Postby Elvis » Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:40 pm

If ya can't believe the phone companies, then... :scared:
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Re: the creepiness that is my smartphone

Postby kelley » Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:51 pm

Thank you Elvis
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Re: the creepiness that is my smartphone

Postby Elvis » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:24 pm

Still, a good thread topic, as ubiquitous as the phones are.
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Re: the creepiness that is my smartphone

Postby liminalOyster » Fri Nov 08, 2019 2:27 am

Google's introduction, earlier this year, of suggested replies to incoming SMS is definitely a major event in the direction of AIs conversing for us. Seems a matter of when rather than if. It's very smart and we're very predictable, is mostly what I've noticed. Its ability to read context (even wry, sarcastic, etc) is clearly the result of a huge amount of work.
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Re: the creepiness that is my smartphone

Postby Harvey » Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:59 am

Had a similar thing when I was with T mobile in 2012, with a 'dumb' phone and pay as you go account. Ancient text messages re-sent and received as if in conversation.
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Re: the creepiness that is my smartphone

Postby alloneword » Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:26 am

lol... a 'glitch'. :D

Still, a 'glitch' that clearly demonstrates that your messages are being stored somewhere, by someone. ;)

If these messages were attempted responses to 'valentines day messages', I can imagine how that might get awkward for some, er, 'less than fidelitous' people. I keenly await the next series of 'Black Mirror'. :D

That aside, it's certainly worth remembering that you're carrying a fondle-slab brimming with sensors around in your pocket - one which you have very little control over as regards what it 'senses' and where that information ends up.

For example, a couple of years ago, a major security flaw was discovered in iOS and Android devices which was already being exploited...

What it does
The Android version performs similar spying functionality as Pegasus for iOS, including:

Keylogging
Screenshot capture
Live audio capture
Remote control of the malware via SMS
Messaging data exfiltration from common applications including WhatsApp, Skype, Facebook, Twitter, Viber, Kakao
Browser history exfiltration
Email exfiltration from Android’s Native Email client
Contacts and text message

It self-destructs if the software feels its position is at risk. Pegasus for Android will remove itself from the phone if:

The SIM MCC ID is invalid
An “antidote” file exists
It has not been able to check in with the servers after 60 days
It receives a command from the server to remove itself

It’s clear that this malware was built to be stealthy, targeted, and is very sophisticated.

https://blog.lookout.com/pegasus-android

This resulted (only last week) in the somewhat ironic spectacle of Facebook apparently acting to protect our privacy. :shock:

Yep, Charlie Brooker's going to be busy. :?
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