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Belligerent Savant » 16 Sep 2021 22:08 wrote:.@ianmSC
Last year, the New York Times said the Philippines had the highest rate of mask wearing in the world
They’re on day 532 of mask mandates, there are curfews, face shield AND mask mandates, quarantine hotels for travelers…all of The Science™
So why have cases exploded?
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Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee – 9/17/2021
Join us for a Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee meeting to discuss Pfizer-BioNTech’s supplemental Biologics License Application for administration of a third dose, or “booster” dose, of the COVID-19 vaccine, Comirnaty, in individuals 16 years of age and older.
@JordanSchachtel
Biden White House intended on rolling out booster shots in 3 days. Today, FDA overwhelmingly voted to shut that down. 1st clear revolt from bureaucracy during this admin. Sparked by 2 top officials retiring & denouncing boosters in Lancet paper. Interesting developments for sure.
3:41 PM · Sep 17, 2021
It's a legit revolt. The White House is not happy.
Update: FDA later voted to approve booster EUA for >65 bracket.
Joe Hillshoist » 17 Sep 2021 05:17 wrote:8bitagent » 14 Sep 2021 19:04 wrote:I don't even think the most brainwashed Rachel Maddow MSNBC viewer would accept the shit happening in Australia. What's happening in Australia feels like it's a made up article by a far right conspiracy website, but is far too real.
What is happening in Australia?
Search up photos of how many people were at the (supposedly closed to the public, in the most fascist lockdown on earth) beach at Bondi the other day.
stickdog99 » 18 Sep 2021 07:51 wrote:Joe Hillshoist » 17 Sep 2021 05:17 wrote:8bitagent » 14 Sep 2021 19:04 wrote:I don't even think the most brainwashed Rachel Maddow MSNBC viewer would accept the shit happening in Australia. What's happening in Australia feels like it's a made up article by a far right conspiracy website, but is far too real.
What is happening in Australia?
Search up photos of how many people were at the (supposedly closed to the public, in the most fascist lockdown on earth) beach at Bondi the other day.
Please correct me if I am wrong, but isn't your honest gut instinct to want to punish those people for being so irresponsible as to enjoy the beach (GASP!) during a "raging pandemic"?
To me, the scariest thing I have learned form this pandemic is just how easy it is for our oligarchs to manipulate the behavior of our most well-meaning and "responsible" citizens. The citizens who we could count on most to pitch in and help their fellow citizens during a real crisis are also those most easily manipulated into demanding that others face authoritarian punishment if they do not also voluntarily give up every conceivable human right they have during a corporate media manufactured crisis.
gato goes to the FDA
Adding a soupçon of genuine “cat” to pfizer’s “catastrophic” outing at the FDA
A friend just passed this on (i had missed it and had no idea it was going on) but as can be seen here, gato-data made it into the debate about vaccine boosters at the FDA on friday.
this was presented by dr david wiseman (big win for nominative determinism there) to add a soupçon of genuine “cat” to pfizer’s “catastrophic” outing at the FDA.
the pfizerians showed up having not done their homework and wow had the folks in the comment session done theirs. this was a mauling.
it was like watching piranha eat a 2 legged cow that fell in a river. headfirst.
you can watch the whole presentation here. the wiseman/gato segment is 4:26:03.
i do not know dr wiseman, but i’d like to thank him for the time and effort he put in yesterday.
it’s folks like him that are making a difference.
thank you for standing tall and if you ever need or want data or thoughts on this, you know where to find me and i hope that you do.
because making the rubber meet the road is where we make a real difference. and this was that. and we need more.
so let’s stay after it.
pfizer did get a consolation prize yesterday despite their terrible, horrible, no good very bad day.
the panel snuck in an unplanned vote on an unplanned topic and voted in favor of boosters for those “over 65 or immunocompromised.”
i see no science to validate this choice and the jury remains out on whether this was a return of the idea of risk/benefit of just more craven political kowtowing.
with grueber and krause retiring in nov, you can expect that pfizer WILL be back. this is too good a grift to give up on once they get some more pliable folks in place at FDA.
let’s make damn sure that we get the real data out (wheresoever it may lead) before they do so. if these wind up being justified and look therapeutically useful, fine, but let’s prove it for real with real, open review instead of rubber stamp approvals after cloistered debate far from the public eye.
science first, then policy.
sunlight is the best disinfectant and we need to keep it shining here.
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