US Presidential Election 2020

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Re: State Elections 2021

Postby Belligerent Savant » Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:33 pm

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Virginia is one of several notable developments over the past day. Unsurprisingly, strong disagreement with policies implemented over the past ~year have played a role in voter sentiment.

Re: NJ, which continues to be tight:

@SteveKornacki

The early vote was double-counted in Hudson County. It has now been fixed, bringing Murphy's total down by 10,732 and Ciattarelli's by 2,842. Ciattarelli goes back up in the statewide tally:

Ciattarelli (R): 1,177,803 (49.6%)
Murphy (D) 1,177,108 (49.6%)

12:21 PM · Nov 3, 2021

https://twitter.com/SteveKornacki/statu ... 33154?s=20

Greenwald:

@ggreenwald

Fascinating thread where CNN stars slowly admit that their rhetorical posture -- everyone who dissents in any way from our decrees is racist and/or stupid -- is alienating and ugly, but they didn't realize this because they live in an "echo chamber" of like-minded liberals:

@ShellenbergerMD
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Van Jones: “Democrats are coming across as annoying and offensive and out-of-touch. I think there is a message here.”

Anderson Cooper. “It seems annoying to a lot of people”

[video at link]


https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1 ... 54435?s=20

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Replying to
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This is a major plague in modern journalism. They don't hear dissent. When is the last time Anderson Cooper or Chris Hayes or a NYT op-ed writer dialogued with someone saying they're full of shit? They only talk to and for each other and thus think everyone loves them & agrees.

...

But even with that painful acknowledgement on CNN -- our insistence on smearing anyone who sees the world differently than we do as racist, fascist and/or stupid makes people hate us -- they can't stop doing it. They're doing it this morning. It's all they know how to do now.

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Even if you want to claim that no Virginia voter, absent racism, could possibly reject a life-long supreme scumbag like Terry McAuliffe -- one of the only people ever to be almost too sleazy and amoral for Clinton World -- how to explain all the other huge Dem losses?

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This is a great thread on why the Dem Party cannot "reform" to re-connect with anyone other than their core base of elites and minorities (and even there they're losing ground). They're *structured* to serve the elite managerial class:

@matthewstoller
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I have views on what Democrats are doing wrong politically, but the basic issue is that we are out of touch. I've never seen such wildly pro-labor sentiment in America in in my lifetime, but the Democratic governing class has no connection to the working class.



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Re: US Presidential Election 2020

Postby Belligerent Savant » Wed Nov 03, 2021 3:39 pm

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Joe Colangelo
@Itsjoeco

When asked why 56 districts violated procedure and shut down voting machines without tabulating results

"Durkin says you can call it poll worker error. There will be an investigation as to why it happened. He asks NJ residents not to jump to conclusions"

https://newjersey.news12.com/election-d ... bwicIpFCBQ

Election Day 2021: 56 districts in Essex County did not count votes on Election Night. Here’s why.

News 12 Staff
Nov 03, 2021, 12:13pm
Updated on: Nov 03, 2021, 2:29pm


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Similar patterns to 2020.
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Re: US Presidential Election 2020

Postby Marionumber1 » Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:11 pm

No qualms, of course, with Greenwald's characterization of McAuliffe, but I find it hard to accept that any vote for Youngkin amounts to "reject[ing] a life-long supreme scumbag". Let's not forget that he was a high-level executive (including COO and co-CEO) at the Carlyle Group for a decade, and a partner / managing director for another decade prior to that. The same Carlyle Group involved in privatization, shipping jobs overseas, and destroying and/or price-gouging services that people's lives depend on (Associated Press, "GOP candidate’s private equity resume draws scrutiny in Va.", 2021/07/01):

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — Newly retired, Judy Pavlick was among hundreds of seniors who enjoyed the low cost-of-living and friendly atmosphere at Plaza Del Rey, a sprawling mobile home park in Sunnyvale, California. Then the Carlyle Group acquired the property and things began to change.

Pavlick’s rent surged by more than 7%. Additional increases followed. She said the unexpected jump forced her and her neighbors, many on fixed incomes and unable to relocate, to sometimes choose between food and medicine.

The 2015 acquisition and subsequent sale of Pavlick’s mobile home park is a core business practice for private equity firms such as Carlyle, which buy and restructure private companies to build value for their investors, sometimes cutting jobs and services in the process.

But the deal, one of hundreds Carlyle executed in recent years, could become a political liability for Carlyle’s former co-CEO, Glenn Youngkin, who is now running as the Republican candidate for governor in Virginia and highlighting his experience “building businesses and creating jobs.”

“They don’t realize that these are peoples’ homes. We’re not just numbers on a spreadsheet,” said Pavlick, now 74 years old. “They have no conscience.”

Beyond mobile home parks, Youngkin helped Carlyle make money for investors by targeting nursing homes, auto parts manufacturers, energy companies and even a business that produces “less-lethal” weapons used by governments that have cracked down on democracy advocates. More than 1,000 jobs were moved offshore in recent years as companies were restructured. Hundreds more were laid off after Carlyle instituted a series of cost-cutting measures at a nationwide nursing home chain; complaints of deteriorating service and neglect followed.

There are no allegations of illegality or wrongdoing, but Youngkin’s political aspirations have drawn new scrutiny to his dealings at the Washington-based investment firm, where he generated a net worth estimated at over $300 million before retiring as co-CEO last summer.

Perhaps not since former Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney, now a Utah senator, has a candidate sought higher office with such strong ties to the world of private equity. Romney, too, sold himself as a successful businessman and job creator, but stories of megadeals that routinely put profits over people undercut his White House ambitions.

Youngkin now faces another wealthy former businessman, former Democratic Gov. Terry McAuliffe, in November’s general election, which has already emerged as the nation’s top political contest of 2021.

While McAuliffe’s ties to big donors and lobbyists are well-established, Youngkin has only begun to confront difficult questions about his business background. His team declined to address any of Carlyle’s specific deals.

“As a young man, Glenn joined a small company and over the next 25 years worked his way up to the top of the company, helping to grow it into a hugely successful enterprise that turned good businesses into great businesses, created tens of thousands of jobs, and funded the retirement pensions of police officers, firefighters, and teachers,” said Youngkin spokesman Macaulay Porter. “Under Glenn’s leadership, The Carlyle Group employed nearly 2,000 people and managed assets totaling nearly four times the size of Virginia’s yearly budget.”

Youngkin has made his business experience and status as a political outsider central to his pitch to voters. But more often than not, he discusses his career in broad strokes, without mentioning his lofty position or even the name of his former firm.

He leans on the phrase “building business and creating jobs” when talking about his career, typically without specific description of the types of deals he oversaw.

Asked in a February interview with a former state lawmaker that was streamed on social media how he viewed the role of private equity in the economy, Youngkin responded: “We invest in companies, and we try to take good companies and make them great companies. And we do that by helping them expand, to launch new products, to see new futures, to hire new people.”

While creating big profits for the firm’s investors, Carlyle’s deals sometimes triggered rounds of layoffs, outsourced jobs and complaints from the people directly served by the companies acquired.

The details in some cases may be politically damaging for Youngkin, but the situation is also complicated for his Democratic critics, who have tried to brand Youngkin as too close to former President Donald Trump. McAuliffe himself invested in Carlyle before and after becoming Virginia’s governor in 2014.

The former Democratic governor’s public disclosures show no current ties, but records reveal that McAuliffe invested at least $690,000 in Carlyle funds between December 2007 and the end of 2016. The actual figure is likely much higher because the disclosures require candidates to acknowledge only a broad range of investment with no upper limit in some cases.

Spokesperson Christina Freundlich said McAuliffe has made no new investments in Carlyle since 2008, although he was invested in the company through 2016. She described him as a passive investor with no role in crafting the deals, noting that many major institutions were among the investors, including the California Public Employees’ Retirement System.

“Glenn Youngkin’s record is clear: shipping American jobs overseas and harming seniors and homeowners, all for his own profit,” Freundlich said. “Virginians deserve better than an extreme, Trump-endorsed job killer with a track record of always putting his own wealth first.”

Carlyle made investments in several companies under Youngkin’s leadership that moved at least 1,300 American jobs offshore, according to Department of Labor data.

They include Metaldyne LLC, a North Carolina car parts company that sent 176 jobs to Korea in 2008; the Texas company Commemorative Brands, which produced class rings and sent more than 260 jobs to Mexico between 2005 and 2013; and Ohio-based car part manufacturer Veyance Technologies, which sent nearly 300 jobs to Mexico between 2009 and 2011.

After they were restructured, all three companies were sold for hundreds of millions of dollars more than they were acquired for.

Veyance Technologies was among those companies in a larger fund in which McAuliffe had invested; that means he would have profited from the deal.

A representative for Carlyle declined to comment for this story. The company’s leadership has struggled to defend some of their decisions at times.

The firm in 2005 acquired a minority stake in Combined Systems Inc., a “less-lethal” munitions manufacturer that produced tear gas and “super-sock bean bags” subsequently used by governments in Tunisia, Egypt and China to crack down on pro-democracy protesters.

Combined Systems officials said at the time that they could not control how their products were used. But the U.S. State Department condemned the excessive use of force against protesters in Egypt in particular and opened an investigation into the misuse of tear gas after pictures of CSI-branded tear gas canisters were published on social media.

By all measures, Carlyle is a behemoth in the world of private equity, with 29 offices spread across five continents staffed by more than 1,800 professionals. The firm raised over $27 billion of new capital in 2020, according to its annual report. Despite what it described as a “difficult environment” because of the pandemic, Carlyle delivered distributable earnings of $762 million to its investors last year, its highest total in the past five years.

Youngkin joined the firm in 1995 and rose up through the ranks steadily in the subsequent years, becoming head of the industrial sector investment team by 2005. By March 2011, he had become the chief operating officer and within seven years, he was named co-CEO.

Carlyle announced Youngkin’s retirement last summer amid speculation that he was interested in running for office. In the announcement, Youngkin said it was the “professional journey of a lifetime and my honor to be part of building Carlyle into the global institution it is today.”

Youngkin’s annual compensation package in 2019, his last full year at the company, approached $17 million, according to published reports at the time. That same year, Carlyle sold Sunnyvale’s Plaza Del Rey for $237 million after buying it for $152 million four years earlier.

Acquiring higher-end mobile home parks, now referred to as manufactured housing, was part of a broader strategy for Carlyle that included large properties in Arizona and Florida. Such investments are an emerging trend among private equity firms that recently recognized investment potential in mobile home parks.

Critics, including Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., have accused the firms of preying upon aging residents with steady income streams and limited options to move when rents and fees go up.

Six years after Carlyle entered Pavlick’s life, she is still fighting rent and fee increases, which continued to surge after Carlyle sold her community to another out-of-state investment firm two years ago.

“This park used to be called the park with the heart,” Pavlick said. “They just turned everybody’s happy home upside down.”


And the same Carlyle Group, mind you, that had a revolving door with prominent politicians including none other than George Bush Sr., was connected to the bin Laden family, and controversially found itself getting into the defense contracting big leagues right around the time of the 9/11 attacks.

The great irony is that McAuliffe himself had investments in Carlyle Group funds, which means that any attacks against Youngkin on this basis probably had little chance of successfully landing.
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Re: US Presidential Election 2020

Postby Belligerent Savant » Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:20 pm

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Indeed. Both parties are corrupt/compromised. Have been for years. But right now many voters will clamor for anything that increases the chances of striking down blatantly authoritarian policies, particularly with respect to school and work mandates and/or public school policies/curriculums (the latter played a key role in Virginia's outcome, I believe).
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Re: US Presidential Election 2020

Postby Elvis » Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:42 pm

Terrific piece, thanks.

Marionumber1 » Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:11 pm wrote:No qualms, of course, with Greenwald's characterization of McAuliffe, but I find it hard to accept that any vote for Youngkin amounts to "reject[ing] a life-long supreme scumbag". Let's not forget that he was a high-level executive (including COO and co-CEO) at the Carlyle Group for a decade, and a partner / managing director for another decade prior to that. The same Carlyle Group involved in privatization, shipping jobs overseas, and destroying and/or price-gouging services that people's lives depend on (Associated Press, "GOP candidate’s private equity resume draws scrutiny in Va.", 2021/07/01):

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — Newly retired, Judy Pavlick was among hundreds of seniors who enjoyed the low cost-of-living and friendly atmosphere at Plaza Del Rey, a sprawling mobile home park in Sunnyvale, California. Then the Carlyle Group acquired the property and things began to change.

Pavlick’s rent surged by more than 7%. Additional increases followed. She said the unexpected jump forced her and her neighbors, many on fixed incomes and unable to relocate, to sometimes choose between food and medicine.

The 2015 acquisition and subsequent sale of Pavlick’s mobile home park is a core business practice for private equity firms such as Carlyle, which buy and restructure private companies to build value for their investors, sometimes cutting jobs and services in the process.

But the deal, one of hundreds Carlyle executed in recent years, could become a political liability for Carlyle’s former co-CEO, Glenn Youngkin, who is now running as the Republican candidate for governor in Virginia and highlighting his experience “building businesses and creating jobs.”

“They don’t realize that these are peoples’ homes. We’re not just numbers on a spreadsheet,” said Pavlick, now 74 years old. “They have no conscience.”

Beyond mobile home parks, Youngkin helped Carlyle make money for investors by targeting nursing homes, auto parts manufacturers, energy companies and even a business that produces “less-lethal” weapons used by governments that have cracked down on democracy advocates. More than 1,000 jobs were moved offshore in recent years as companies were restructured. Hundreds more were laid off after Carlyle instituted a series of cost-cutting measures at a nationwide nursing home chain; complaints of deteriorating service and neglect followed.

There are no allegations of illegality or wrongdoing, but Youngkin’s political aspirations have drawn new scrutiny to his dealings at the Washington-based investment firm, where he generated a net worth estimated at over $300 million before retiring as co-CEO last summer.

Perhaps not since former Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney, now a Utah senator, has a candidate sought higher office with such strong ties to the world of private equity. Romney, too, sold himself as a successful businessman and job creator, but stories of megadeals that routinely put profits over people undercut his White House ambitions.

Youngkin now faces another wealthy former businessman, former Democratic Gov. Terry McAuliffe, in November’s general election, which has already emerged as the nation’s top political contest of 2021.

While McAuliffe’s ties to big donors and lobbyists are well-established, Youngkin has only begun to confront difficult questions about his business background. His team declined to address any of Carlyle’s specific deals.

“As a young man, Glenn joined a small company and over the next 25 years worked his way up to the top of the company, helping to grow it into a hugely successful enterprise that turned good businesses into great businesses, created tens of thousands of jobs, and funded the retirement pensions of police officers, firefighters, and teachers,” said Youngkin spokesman Macaulay Porter. “Under Glenn’s leadership, The Carlyle Group employed nearly 2,000 people and managed assets totaling nearly four times the size of Virginia’s yearly budget.”

Youngkin has made his business experience and status as a political outsider central to his pitch to voters. But more often than not, he discusses his career in broad strokes, without mentioning his lofty position or even the name of his former firm.

He leans on the phrase “building business and creating jobs” when talking about his career, typically without specific description of the types of deals he oversaw.

Asked in a February interview with a former state lawmaker that was streamed on social media how he viewed the role of private equity in the economy, Youngkin responded: “We invest in companies, and we try to take good companies and make them great companies. And we do that by helping them expand, to launch new products, to see new futures, to hire new people.”

While creating big profits for the firm’s investors, Carlyle’s deals sometimes triggered rounds of layoffs, outsourced jobs and complaints from the people directly served by the companies acquired.

The details in some cases may be politically damaging for Youngkin, but the situation is also complicated for his Democratic critics, who have tried to brand Youngkin as too close to former President Donald Trump. McAuliffe himself invested in Carlyle before and after becoming Virginia’s governor in 2014.

The former Democratic governor’s public disclosures show no current ties, but records reveal that McAuliffe invested at least $690,000 in Carlyle funds between December 2007 and the end of 2016. The actual figure is likely much higher because the disclosures require candidates to acknowledge only a broad range of investment with no upper limit in some cases.

Spokesperson Christina Freundlich said McAuliffe has made no new investments in Carlyle since 2008, although he was invested in the company through 2016. She described him as a passive investor with no role in crafting the deals, noting that many major institutions were among the investors, including the California Public Employees’ Retirement System.

“Glenn Youngkin’s record is clear: shipping American jobs overseas and harming seniors and homeowners, all for his own profit,” Freundlich said. “Virginians deserve better than an extreme, Trump-endorsed job killer with a track record of always putting his own wealth first.”

Carlyle made investments in several companies under Youngkin’s leadership that moved at least 1,300 American jobs offshore, according to Department of Labor data.

They include Metaldyne LLC, a North Carolina car parts company that sent 176 jobs to Korea in 2008; the Texas company Commemorative Brands, which produced class rings and sent more than 260 jobs to Mexico between 2005 and 2013; and Ohio-based car part manufacturer Veyance Technologies, which sent nearly 300 jobs to Mexico between 2009 and 2011.

After they were restructured, all three companies were sold for hundreds of millions of dollars more than they were acquired for.

Veyance Technologies was among those companies in a larger fund in which McAuliffe had invested; that means he would have profited from the deal.

A representative for Carlyle declined to comment for this story. The company’s leadership has struggled to defend some of their decisions at times.

The firm in 2005 acquired a minority stake in Combined Systems Inc., a “less-lethal” munitions manufacturer that produced tear gas and “super-sock bean bags” subsequently used by governments in Tunisia, Egypt and China to crack down on pro-democracy protesters.

Combined Systems officials said at the time that they could not control how their products were used. But the U.S. State Department condemned the excessive use of force against protesters in Egypt in particular and opened an investigation into the misuse of tear gas after pictures of CSI-branded tear gas canisters were published on social media.

By all measures, Carlyle is a behemoth in the world of private equity, with 29 offices spread across five continents staffed by more than 1,800 professionals. The firm raised over $27 billion of new capital in 2020, according to its annual report. Despite what it described as a “difficult environment” because of the pandemic, Carlyle delivered distributable earnings of $762 million to its investors last year, its highest total in the past five years.

Youngkin joined the firm in 1995 and rose up through the ranks steadily in the subsequent years, becoming head of the industrial sector investment team by 2005. By March 2011, he had become the chief operating officer and within seven years, he was named co-CEO.

Carlyle announced Youngkin’s retirement last summer amid speculation that he was interested in running for office. In the announcement, Youngkin said it was the “professional journey of a lifetime and my honor to be part of building Carlyle into the global institution it is today.”

Youngkin’s annual compensation package in 2019, his last full year at the company, approached $17 million, according to published reports at the time. That same year, Carlyle sold Sunnyvale’s Plaza Del Rey for $237 million after buying it for $152 million four years earlier.

Acquiring higher-end mobile home parks, now referred to as manufactured housing, was part of a broader strategy for Carlyle that included large properties in Arizona and Florida. Such investments are an emerging trend among private equity firms that recently recognized investment potential in mobile home parks.

Critics, including Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., have accused the firms of preying upon aging residents with steady income streams and limited options to move when rents and fees go up.

Six years after Carlyle entered Pavlick’s life, she is still fighting rent and fee increases, which continued to surge after Carlyle sold her community to another out-of-state investment firm two years ago.

“This park used to be called the park with the heart,” Pavlick said. “They just turned everybody’s happy home upside down.”


And the same Carlyle Group, mind you, that had a revolving door with prominent politicians including none other than George Bush Sr., was connected to the bin Laden family, and controversially found itself getting into the defense contracting big leagues right around the time of the 9/11 attacks.

The great irony is that McAuliffe himself had investments in Carlyle Group funds, which means that any attacks against Youngkin on this basis probably had little chance of successfully landing.
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Fox Hypocrisy

Postby Iamwhomiam » Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:37 pm

The U.S. House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol is a select committee of the United States House of Representatives formed through a largely party-line vote, on July 1, 2021, to investigate the attack on the U.S. Capitol on January 6 that year.[1] The attack was a culmination of the attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election. The membership of the committee was a point of significant political contention, with House Republicans boycotting the committee. The investigation commenced with public hearings on July 27, when four police officers testified. By the end of November 2021, the Committee had interviewed over 250 people.[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Select_Committee_on_the_January_6_Attack



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44bYXUb_WNA

CNN host never misses an opportunity to insult Fox talking heads, in this case calling them "entertainers" in his introduction.


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Re: US Presidential Election 2020

Postby Belligerent Savant » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:27 am

Perhaps a new thread for 2022?

In the meantime:

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Re: US Presidential Election 2020

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Feb 12, 2022 3:20 am

"Ich kann gar nicht so viel fressen, wie ich kotzen möchte." - Max Liebermann,, Berlin, 1933

"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." - Richard Feynman, NYC, 1966

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Re: US Presidential Election 2020

Postby Grizzly » Wed Feb 16, 2022 10:04 pm

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Re: US Presidential Election 2020

Postby Belligerent Savant » Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:22 pm

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This can also go in the Epstein thread.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2020

Postby Belligerent Savant » Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:03 am

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May need to move these to a "Biden is Inept, and Therefore Dangerous" thread.

In the meantime, here's another one to add to the growing list:

Jake Schneider
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Re: US Presidential Election 2020

Postby BenDhyan » Tue Apr 05, 2022 7:42 pm

It really is lonely at the top....

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Re: US Presidential Election 2020

Postby Grizzly » Sun Apr 17, 2022 2:24 pm

Glenn Greenwald: Nothing Trump Did Compares to the 'Moral Evil' of Bush'...


Glenn Greenwald: Nothing Trump Did Compares to the 'Moral Evil' of Bush's and Obama's [Obiden's]* Wars

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Re: US Presidential Election 2020

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Jun 11, 2022 7:27 pm

Belligerent Savant » Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:04 am wrote:.
[Yes, I said i'd stop posting in this thread. But since this particular info hasn't been raised yet, i am sharing it here as it offers an added breadcrumb surrounding certain aspects of this event. Caveat Lector, always]

https://www.fox13now.com/news/local-new ... insurgence


Utah activist claims he was just documenting US Capitol insurgence

A Utah resident who was among those who breached the US Capitol Wednesday says he was there solely to document the event.

John Sullivan, a civil rights activist, claims he attended the protest and broke into the Capitol along with Trump supporters only as a way to give a true view of what was occurring.

"I was there to record," said Sullivan in a video posted to Periscope Friday. "I was there to let people see that situation in the best possible way."

Sullivan is the founder of Insurgence USA, an activist group formed after the killing of George Floyd in the summer of 2020.

Sullivan said he was near Ashli Babbitt when she was shot and killed in the Capitol building, but being able to show her death was why he was in DC.

"How would you have a clear vision of this woman getting shot by this officer that was in there and she was dying?" asks Sullivan in the video. "What proof or evidence, other than body cam video that can be easily deleted."

"This is what everyone needed to see."

Sullivan goes on to say his documentation disproves those who claim Antifa members dressed as Trump supporters were actually the ones who invaded the building.

"In my footage, clear as day, Antifa is not out there doing that." said Sullivan, who added that he is not a member of Antifa.

In June, Sullivan was arrested for organizing a protest in Provo where a person was shot.



AND:
https://www.deseret.com/utah/2021/1/7/2 ... r-sullivan


John Sullivan claims he entered Capitol during rally only to document event, but his own video shows him encouraging others as they rioted


A Utah activist who faces criminal charges in connection with a Provo protest he organized in June claims he attended a pro-Trump rally that turned into a violent attack on the U.S. Capitol in order to see “the truth” about the protests for himself and the organization he represents.

Sullivan, who is the founder of Insurgence USA, a social justice group that calls itself anti-fascist and protests police brutality, was detained by Washington police for about an hour and a half Thursday night, a day after he talked to local and national media about what he witnessed Wednesday.

some of the 40-minute video he posted to his social media sites contradicts his assertion that he and another woman were “only filming” the actions and not participating as he can be heard in the video encouraging people to join them as they push their way through police barricades.

Just after people broke into the building, Sullivan — wearing a gas mask and wielding an iPhone on a stabilizing stick — and a woman who said Wednesday that she was making a documentary on Sullivan, are on the first porch area outside the entrance looking back over the throngs of people around the Capitol. They can be heard encouraging people to climb the wall, saying, “Come on. Let’s go!”

Others, wearing Trump gear and carrying various flags, are shouting the same and helping people over the stone or marble railing around the section of Capitol steps.

He can be heard saying, “We’re all part of this (expletive) history” as they enter the rotunda around 15 minutes in, and he says to his companion, “2021! (expletive) This is insanity. I am shook. What is this? What is this painting, you know? King (expletive) bro (expletive)!”

He exchanges social media information with another man, and then he and the filmmaker talk about what they’re witnessing.

“Is this not going to be the best film you’ve ever made in your life?” he says. “Dude, I was trying to tell you. I couldn’t say much.”

On Friday, Sullivan insisted that he didn’t encourage violence or vandalism.

When asked about some of the things he said during the 40-minute video, he said, “When you’re in a massive crowd like that, you have to blend in.”

The riot was not an impromptu act, Sullivan said.

“As far as them storming the Capitol, I knew that was going to happen,” he said. “I’m on chats that are underground that are sending out flyers that are just like, ‘Storm all Capitols on the 6th.’ It wasn’t anything that was secret. It was something that was out there ... and they did it.”

After making his way inside the Capitol during the riot, Sullivan said he witnessed the shooting death of protester Ashli Babbitt, and the Twitter account for Insurgence USA retweeted video from someone with Sullivan that shows the shooting and the aftermath.

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And here he is on CNN. Quite a bit of media/news content dedicated to this person, eh?

Any 'patriot'/Trumpsters receive such air time? I wouldn't know offhand as i don't watch network news.



He was just "documenting".

Note, at least at one point in the clip, Anderson Cooper refers to the gathering as 'protesters' and then quickly corrects himself and subsequently calls them 'rioters'.

Lastly: I viewed the video clip of the shooting -- the version reportedly recorded by the person filming with Sullivan. The angle does not make clear if the shooter was indeed an officer. More to the point, audio did NOT pick up any warning by the shooter before the shot was fired, but others nearby yelled 'gun!' several times. Anyone else happen across the video?

Has the 'officer' been ID'd yet?


The whole thing is ludicrous.

If anyone hasn't yet seen it, I highly recommend watching this short film, which was “obtained by the Washington Post” (sic), though they don’t say how or from whom, and published on 8 Jan 2021:

“The shooting of Ashli Babbitt” (2m 53s):

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investig ... o-capitol/

I'm amazed it's still up. It’s one of the most obviously staged scenes I have ever seen. NB, I am not necessarily implying that no cops shot anyone at the Capitol building on 6 Jan 2021. What I am saying is:

1) The three helmetless defenders at the door are the gentlest, feeblest, skinniest, least aggressive, most self-effacing and worst-armed US “police officers” I’ve even seen on film. Those young guys look like miscast and un-gifted extras suddenly asked to play leading roles in a Hollywood thriller and almost dying of embarrassment. And note how they simply walk away just before The Invisible Man fires his gun. All of them depart together, without speaking a single word, as if on cue.

2) OMG! A hand holding a handgun suddenly appears behind the glass door! OMFG! How amazingly lucky that someone caught it on film! But does the guy filming give a damn? No. Does he retreat and seek cover? Does he hell. In fact, no one in the room is the least bit alarmed or discouraged at the prospect of being maimed or killed. They just carry on “besieging” those glass windows, without a care in the world.

3) Gosh darn it, the unidentifiable guy with the handgun shoots someone! No warning! No warning shot either! WTF! A woman is down! NOTE THE EDITING. NOTE THE BLURRING. NOTE THE CUTS. This is not a direct record of reality but a manufactured object. Ask yourself exactly who manipulated this film and exactly when and why. Ask yourself how the Brainwashington Post acquired it, what they did with it, and why they released it. Who benefits?

4) AFTER THE CUT: At last, the cavalry has arrived! Helmeted! Heavily armed! Kevlar vests! Automatic rifles, with telescopic (why?) sights! Observe how these tough, disciplined, highly-trained professionals take charge of the situation instantly fanny about helplessly, kneeling down and standing up again for no conceivable reason, inches away from the crowd. Barking no commands. Grabbing and arresting nobody. Listen to the cringemaking improvised “shouts” from the horde of evil coup-plotters -- who are still not fleeing or panicking (or even fighting back) , despite the pistol shot and the dying woman and then the appearance of these new, terrifying Top Guns. No one appears to be the least bit scared of being shot or arrested, least of all the cameraman himself.

The film ends there, or at least that's all we see of it. Why, exactly? Who decided? Who made the Director's Cut?

It is terrible acting. It is incompetently directed. It's a joke.

But fit for purpose, evidently. Post 9/11, very little effort need be made. Anything goes.
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sat Jun 11, 2022 10:48 pm

That John Sullivan fella was flagged as an informant or undercover cop by BLM activists over two years ago now.

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