Re: The Limits of Science
Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 6:37 pm
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Well, it can be argued that the marvels of the internet have their perils as well (e.g., increased potential for tribalism, echo chambers, atomization, lack of real-world human interactions, etc). It can be further argued that certain adherents of a given religion, lived honestly and not based on hate, can and does lead to a measure of peace/bliss.
Double-edged swords.
Who’s to say which is better, objectively?
(Increasingly I yearn for an EMP to bring/force us back to simpler times. But of course that would bring massive calamity as well. Perhaps a better way to phrase it is i find myself more relaxed and in relatively good spirits when away from tech/wifi, outdoors in direct sunlight and light breezes. That said, I'm typing this now while outside with sunlight on my face; the irony is not lost on me. But still, I am growing to disdain this tech, incrementally)
The notion of an afterlife is also not nearly as ‘settled’, even scientifically, as alluded in your comment above. Same with the nature of consciousness, which is tied to any notion of persistence beyond this mortal/earthly reality.
I remain largely agnostic on the points above — I know only that nothing can be stated with certainty at this time, at least with respect to the topics mentioned here in this post.
DrEvil » Tue May 23, 2023 4:31 pm wrote:drstrangelove » Mon May 22, 2023 8:48 am wrote:yes, you have an issue with the institutionalization of religion, as do i the issue we face at the moment is the institutionalization of science however.
Yes. Power corrupts etc., doesn't really matter what area of life it happens in - people can suck whether they're wearing vestments or lab coats. But I will maintain that, on a general basis, science beats religion simply because it gives us tangible results, like the ability to have this argument across oceans in near real-time. Our current standard of living didn't come about through faith alone.
I also think that if more people acknowledged the possibility that this one life is what we get they might expend a little more energy towards making it a good one.
Well, it can be argued that the marvels of the internet have their perils as well (e.g., increased potential for tribalism, echo chambers, atomization, lack of real-world human interactions, etc). It can be further argued that certain adherents of a given religion, lived honestly and not based on hate, can and does lead to a measure of peace/bliss.
Double-edged swords.
Who’s to say which is better, objectively?
(Increasingly I yearn for an EMP to bring/force us back to simpler times. But of course that would bring massive calamity as well. Perhaps a better way to phrase it is i find myself more relaxed and in relatively good spirits when away from tech/wifi, outdoors in direct sunlight and light breezes. That said, I'm typing this now while outside with sunlight on my face; the irony is not lost on me. But still, I am growing to disdain this tech, incrementally)
The notion of an afterlife is also not nearly as ‘settled’, even scientifically, as alluded in your comment above. Same with the nature of consciousness, which is tied to any notion of persistence beyond this mortal/earthly reality.
I remain largely agnostic on the points above — I know only that nothing can be stated with certainty at this time, at least with respect to the topics mentioned here in this post.