"Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?)

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Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:43 pm

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Postby MacCruiskeen » Thu Feb 03, 2022 9:08 am

A thread: As you can see from this blockbuster article published on Aug. 9, 2016, in the prestigious journal Nature, researchers conclusively demonstrated that whenever fetal calf serum is added to any cell culture as is done in virtually all modern virology studies, including those used during the past two years), it is simply impossible to use the results of this culture to determine the RNA sequence of any new vîru$. As they demonstrate, fetal calf serum itself is a rich source of many types of RNA sequences.

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Once this is introduced into the cell culture, from then on, there is no way to determine the origin of the RNA that researchers find. The significance of this study cannot be overstated and validates what we’ve been saying for many months.

Virologists use cell cultures to prove the existence of a new vîru$ and its cytopathic effect. If the culture is contaminated, as this study demonstrates, any claims about a new vîru$ and its genetic makeup are meaningless.

In my webinar this coming Friday, I will examine this study in depth and show how it refutes the entire foundation of genetic virology.

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The Third and Final Pillar of Virology: The Genome
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Re: "Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Thu Feb 03, 2022 10:56 pm

MacCruiskeen » 03 Feb 2022 23:08 wrote:
A thread: As you can see from this blockbuster article published on Aug. 9, 2016, in the prestigious journal Nature, researchers conclusively demonstrated that whenever fetal calf serum is added to any cell culture as is done in virtually all modern virology studies, including those used during the past two years), it is simply impossible to use the results of this culture to determine the RNA sequence of any new vîru$. As they demonstrate, fetal calf serum itself is a rich source of many types of RNA sequences.

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Once this is introduced into the cell culture, from then on, there is no way to determine the origin of the RNA that researchers find. The significance of this study cannot be overstated and validates what we’ve been saying for many months.

Virologists use cell cultures to prove the existence of a new vîru$ and its cytopathic effect. If the culture is contaminated, as this study demonstrates, any claims about a new vîru$ and its genetic makeup are meaningless.

In my webinar this coming Friday, I will examine this study in depth and show how it refutes the entire foundation of genetic virology.

@drtomcowan 24. Jan. 2022·

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Here's the webinar he mentions (1h 1m):

The Third and Final Pillar of Virology: The Genome
Webinar From Friday, January 28, 2022
https://www.bitchute.com/video/KNPMjomgGoKV/


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Re: "Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?

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Re: "Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?

Postby conniption » Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:40 pm

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The saying that knowledge is power may be more true today than at any other time in our history, especially seeing as to how information is literally at our fingertips. It is perhaps the greatest tool we can rely upon in this fight against the lies of virology. However, there are many sources of information out there, both bad and good, and this search for truth can become confusing amd overwhelming. It can be difficult to know who or what site to turn to or trust. While I believe we should not outright trust anyone and that we must research and discern truth for ourselves, it is great to have resources available for where we can find valuable information in order to make educated and informed opinions.

Presented below is a list of sites that I have found valuable in my own quest for knowledge as well as other sites which have been recommended to me by friends who are also seeking truth. These resources are of like-minded content questioning the dogma of Germ Theory and virology. Whether you find something of value in them is entirely up to you. My intent is to share these resources and to make the search much less difficult...

...Continues - https://viroliegy.com/2022/02/05/who-you-gonna-call/


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Re: "Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?

Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:31 pm

One of the best things to come out of the last two years is the independent Covid Investigative Committee (Corona-Ausschuss) led by the lawyers Dr Reiner Füllmich and Dr Viviane Fischer. Their main medical adviser is Dr Wolfgang Wodarg, a brave and knowledgeable physician who has done a lot of admirable work over the last 20-odd years to oppose the pharma mafia and its corruption of the practice of medicine. It was Wodarg, above all, who made it clear to me and countless others that the PCR "test" invented by Drosten is not just worse-than-useless, and not just honestly mistaken, but positively fraudulent.

At their most recent Hearing, last Friday *, there was a bizarre, initially depressing but finally highly instructive encounter between him and the invited witnesses (or guests), Dr Andrew Kaufman and Dr Stefan Lanka, two of the most prominent opponents of the reigning "virus" paradigm. They were both rushed through their presentations in a way I haven't seen at the Corona-Ausschuss before. Then Dr Wodarg, clearly totally unprepared and entirely lost for a rational response, immediately announced that he was "extremely annoyed" (sehr verärgert) by their suggestion that viruses might not be responsible for diseases. He ignored their arguments completely, made it clear that he had read nothing they had written, suggested they should write something (!!!), and resorted to dirt-cheap ad hominem attacks, suggesting (absurdly) that they were only in it for the money.

Wodarg attacked Kaufman & Lanka superciliously, interrupted them constantly, and finally -- when they had the temerity to defend themselves -- complained disingenuously that he himself was being disrespected and interrupted. He didn't have a leg to stand on. It was embarrassing to watch.

It was also a salutary warning against fandom. Even people we admire and have learned from are not infallible.

Why such rage and indignation whenever the "virus" dogma is even questioned?

(I've only watched the exchange in German so far. I'll post the version with English simultaneous translation once I've listened to it.)

ON EDIT: Thanks to conniption for this:

conniption » Wed Feb 09, 2022 3:49 am wrote:
Dr. Andrew Kaufman & Dr. Stefan Lanka | Session 90: The Virus Of Power

Watch >>> https://odysee.com/@Corona-Investigativ ... on-90-en:a <<<

Corona Investigative Committee
@Corona-Investigative-Committee
February 5th, 2022

Dr. Andrew Kaufman - Psychiatrist
Dr. Stefan Lanka - Biologist and author


Thank you MacCruiskeen for commenting on the interview between Stefan Lanka and Wolfgang Wodarg. I thought highly of Wodarg before this interview and now am not so sure. This was a pivotal moment for the virus vs. terrain debate.
Still appreciate Reiner Fuellmich and the Corona Investigative Committee in giving the boys an opportunity to present their views.

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4 of 259 comments following the video:

@coolxjl

Dr Wodarg appears to have subscribed to the practice of Scientism, turning science into religion. He 'believes' that the viruses exist without actually having credible proof, just because majority agree on it. Dr. Kaufmans arguments have always been consistant, and because they can't attack it on consistancy they try using absurdity. For example, asking Dr Kaufman to prove that viruses don't exist is absurd, its terrible science, that's like asking to prove aliens don't exist, which is impossible. Proof has to come from those who are making the claim, not the other way around. Dr. Kaufman never claimed anything other than saying that the proof of existence of virus is a nonsense on a logical grounds. it's a ashame, Dr Wodarg seems to be a nice man, but not a very good scientist. Here its classic case of you can't teach an old dog a new trick
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@Purps

No Wolf you prove that viruses do exist! All the FOI requests show that no one ever has shown that any virus has been purified and isolated. Wolfgang was the disrespectful one in trying to slur Stefan, why wasn't this picked up on? Its strange that when it comes to viruses this topic cannot be discussed without emotion. Judy behaved the same way. This seems like deliberate sabotage to me. Such a shame. I am more convinced than ever that this committee is suspect. Dawn and David's excellent book What Really Makes You ill why everything you thought you knew about disease is wrong


@MiriamW

This came across like an ambush. It was as if Kaufmann and Lanka were invited to give evidence only to have Wodarg, supported by Fischer, undermine them in a very rude and disrespectful way. The only person who constantly interrupted was Wodarg. He even accused Lanka of being in business and to add insult to injury, Fischer then accused Lanka of being disrespectful!! Kaufmann was incredibly patient and had actually waited 20 minutes with his hand up to get a word in. Why were they invited to the Committee? This shoddy performance makes me doubt their intentions now.

Could the Committee hear themselves? Lawyers demanding that someone prove a negative! Kaufmann had to state twice that he had no theory. They are both about showing that the virus theory is wrong. There is no justification to demand a theory from them and it beats me how this Committee wouldn't know that.

It was as if Reiner Fuellmich eventually found a way to shut up his colleagues. At the end, you could clearly see him put his hand on Fischer's arm to stop her next meaningless tirade as Wodarg's 'attack dog'. After taking no part in the 'discussion' (a long way from hearing evidence) he appeared to work like mad to limit the damage done by Wodarg and Fischer. Kaufmann and Lanka were incredibly restrained in the face of such rudeness.

The bottom line is, if virology is not thoroughly discredited, Mr Global will do it again. Viral haemorrhagic fever, Marburg, Ebola - they are all in the pipeline and they are all supposed to be viral. The 'next generation' of DNA-altering nano-particle injections are being developed already. The Committee needs to do a lot better than this if it wants to stop the tyranny unfolding.


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I hear this misleading quote right in the beginning "the theory that there are no viruses", that is immediatly setting the world upside down.
Viruses are a theory, never have been proven to exist, not the other way around.
Bacause there is build a virus-theory-industry on this fantasy doesn't mean it exists other then in the minds of people that belief in this fantasy.
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Re: "Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?

Postby MacCruiskeen » Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:06 am

Statement on Stefan Lanka's website about the clash with Wolfgang Wodarg last Friday:

Corona Investigative Committee, Session 90 – “The Virus of Power”

Feb 09, 2022

A missed opportunity?

A short statement on the 90th meeting of the (unofficial) German Corona Inquiry Committee, to which, amongst others, Dr Stefan Lanka and his colleague Dr Andrew Kaufman, were invited.


Immanuel Project aims to enlighten, to provide factual information from the fields of science and to take an appropriately neutral standpoint. Although we may occasionally criticise someone’s statements, decisions or actions, we do not attack anyone personally, nor do we take anyone’s side. Therefore, we do not want to say too much about this particular session, yet we would like to address certain statements made by Dr Wolfgang Wodarg on the subject of science and the virus evidence issue.

Without going into detail at this point, we feel that the session bore the inappropriate title, “The Virus of Power” and we too are very disappointed by the meeting itself and are of the opinion that the committee cannot claim to have made an attempt to seriously deal with the virus evidence issue.

The Corona Committee of Inquiry took a very combative approach towards the Corona Crisis many months ago, as Dr. Reiner Fuellmich himself has made clear in various interviews, they are primarily concerned with proving that the Corona crisis is a major, premeditated crime. This confrontational approach is already in stark contrast to Dr. Lanka’s more neutral approach which shows that the Corona Crisis is first and foremost the inevitable result of misguided developments in both science and society. No one denies that a great many entities from politics and business shamelessly exploit the Corona Crisis for their own purposes and interests. If the virus evidence issue and the work of Dr. Lanka had been seriously addressed, the Committee would automatically have had to question many of its previous findings, conclusions, accusations and expert opinions.
The investigative approaches taken are so contrasting, to the point that a genuine scientific discourse and cooperation appears to be out of the question. Therefore, in our view, one cannot speak of a wasted opportunity in the session, as there never was a real opportunity.
Will cooperation be conceivable at some point in the future? Will the parties involved make a second attempt and achieve a respectful dialogue? Time will tell, but at the moment we aren’t optimistic about this.

– – –

To clarify a few things, here are a few comments on statements made by Dr. Wodarg on the topics of medicine, virology and ways out of the crisis.

Regarding the infection theory
Dr Wodarg’s first point against Dr Lanka’s and Dr Kaufman’s statements on the lack of viral proof was the allegedly proven contagion in ‘rabies’. Apart from the fact that this argumentation was completely out of place at that point in the discussion and in no way invalidated Dr Kaufman’s previous statements, it is also a typical argument used in orthodox medicine to shut down discussion, it’s believed to destroy any criticism since it is assumed that in the case of rabies infection one provides irrefutable facts. But this is not the case at all. On the contrary, this point can be easily refuted.
To this day, infection is a theory based primarily on visual inspection. This is no different to so-called Corona infections, even when a meaningless PCR test is additionally conducted. The RKI’s COVID-19 case definition states that epidemiological confirmation is present if:
– There is an “epidemiological link with a laboratory-diagnosed infection in humans through human-to-human transmission,” which means nothing other than two positive PCR tests.
– And an “Occurrence of two or more pneumonias (specific clinical picture) in a medical facility, nursing home or home for the elderly, where an epidemic link is probable or suspected, even without the presence of pathogen evidence,” i.e., diagnosed purely by appearance and personal assessment of the attending physician.

For every case in which there was alleged transmission of some disease from one person to another, there is at least one other case in which there was no infection. Conventional medicine uses several ‘jokers’ in those obvious contradictions to maintain the theory of infection.
One of them is the ‘immune system’ argumentation. Why did this person not get sick even though he was exposed to a risk of infection? Clearly, they had a strong immune system. Why did this person get sick even though he protected himself so well? Clearly, they had a weak immune system. With the claim of the immune system alone, countless contradictions in orthodox medical concepts can be justified quite easily, especially since the claim cannot be proven and tested. Corona experts also constantly use the ‘immune system joker’ to explain and justify all kinds of things.
Dr. Lanka has already explained what supposed ‘antibodies’ are in several interviews and we will also go into the whole subject of the immune system in more detail in the course of our project.

Dr. Wodarg’s point about the supposed transmissibility of rabies is based on mere visual appraisal combined with meaningless laboratory tests and is comparable to saying: “How can the earth be a sphere? Let’s look at the horizon, it looks flat. There is no curvature of the earth visible from this vantage point.” It is certainly possible to explain how this appearance comes about, but for that one would have to explain many more things.

Regarding virus evidence
We vehemently disagree with Dr. Wodarg’s statement that the virus evidence question would get us nowhere in the Corona crisis! The exact opposite is the case, it is the all-important question!
As we said in one of our earlier articles the big mistake that Wodarg and others made with the supposed swine flu of 2009 was that they only ever put the narrative into perspective, but never questioned the basis of it all, the existence of the virus. As in, ‘Of course the virus existed, it was just not as dangerous as officially claimed!’ The result of this kind of argumentation was that the health authorities then simply determined that critics would have to be summarily censored during the next pandemic (as written in the Bundesgesundheitsblatt, Volume 53, Issue 12 of December 2010), which is exactly what we are all experiencing now at the time of Corona. If we make the same mistake again, simply juggling numbers and relativising the narrative rather than questioning the fundamentals, it won’t be the next supposed ‘pandemic’ that gets worse, but the measures certainly will become worse. It’s possible that next time it will no longer be possible to form a ‘critical scene’ because criticism will be summarily made a punishable offence.

Regarding Scientific Principles
Contrary to Dr. Wodarg’s questionable portrayal of scientific work, the virus evidence issue is not something merely academic for experts to discuss, it is about very tangible evidence that has to be produced and tested using concrete scientific procedures.
Does a microscopic parasitic organism exist that infects other organisms and makes them sick? Can an organism suspected of being a potential pathogen be found in a sick individual? If so, can you isolate it and thus prove that it is a distinct structure? If so, can you biochemically characterise the structure and prove that all these structures are always the same? If so, can one prove that this particular structure is responsible for causing a disease and furthermore, always triggers the same disease? If so, can one prove that this structure is transmissible from one individual to another in any way?
These are the questions that a virologist would have to answer and test with tangible laboratory procedures and document them in detail! Discussions and opinions of so-called “experts” play no role at all without scientific laboratory investigations.

Since this evidence for the existence of supposed pathogenic viruses has not been produced since the emergence of virology, and since one can explain diseases without the presence of supposed pathogens and since one can clearly show that all previous work on the subject of viruses only ever produced theoretical models and superficial evidence that can be interpreted one way or the other…. it can therefore be clearly demonstrated that the German Infection Protection Act (and likely most other international pandemic laws) has been violated from the very beginning and that all those responsible are permanently in breach of the very law to which they constantly refer and which they keep amending to adapt it to the new narrative.

_ _ _

It is definitely time to ask the virus proof question! And this is THE crucial question. Not only to end the Corona crisis once and for all, but above all to ensure that something like this can never happen again.
However, serious, critical discourse in the scientific community seems to be extremely challenging at present. And since the virus evidence issue is not about some trivial matter but about a tangible paradigm shift, it may well be a long time before a genuine discourse amongst experts will be possible. The paradigm shift is coming because the public is engaged, but some people who are attached to the old system will probably not be ready for it.

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Re: "Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:28 am

Dear Mac,

If viruses aren't real then reality is so malleable that it behaves as if they were simply because so many people think they are real. So it doesn't matter.

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Re: "Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?

Postby Harvey » Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:20 am

Joe Hillshoist » Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:28 pm wrote:Dear Mac,

If viruses aren't real then reality is so malleable that it behaves as if they were simply because so many people think they are real. So it doesn't matter.

Cheers


You're probably being facetious, but it could literally be true. If reality conforms to consciousness at least as much as consciousness conforms to reality this is not necessarily reducible to your logical construction. It could be that it matters very much.
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Re: "Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?

Postby MacCruiskeen » Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:14 pm

Joe Hillshoist » Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:28 am wrote:Dear Mac,

If viruses aren't real then reality is so malleable that it behaves as if they were simply because so many people think they are real. So it doesn't matter.

Cheers

Dearest Joe,

How's it goin', me ol' mucker.

What effect would it have if people stopped believing in Killer Dots and Killerdotology? If Virology went the way of Theology? Are you seriously suggesting it wouldn't matter?

By your logic, it didn't matter that (for example) Christianity had a huge influence on most of the world for nearly 2,000 years and then lost most of that influence over the last two centuries and especially since WW2. Neither the widespread belief nor the widespread loss of belief made any difference to human life or material reality. No one was ever helped or hurt by the belief or by the loss of belief. None of it ever had any effect on people's attitudes to life, death, health, happiness, the nature of reality, and all that jazz. It led to no changes in art, science, literature, architecture, social organisation, or attitudes to power.

I'm not 100% convinced you're right.

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Re: "Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?

Postby DrEvil » Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:20 pm

Harvey » Thu Feb 10, 2022 4:20 pm wrote:
Joe Hillshoist » Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:28 pm wrote:Dear Mac,

If viruses aren't real then reality is so malleable that it behaves as if they were simply because so many people think they are real. So it doesn't matter.

Cheers


You're probably being facetious, but it could literally be true. If reality conforms to consciousness at least as much as consciousness conforms to reality this is not necessarily reducible to your logical construction. It could be that it matters very much.


In quantum mechanics at least it's possible for two observers to watch the same experiment and see two different outcomes.
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Re: "Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?

Postby MacCruiskeen » Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:31 pm

Yes, quantum mechanics teaches us that we can all simply will our palace, our harem and our stretch limo into existence. Handy, that.

Can't remember the last time I had to stop at a red light. Must have been before I read The Secret.
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Re: "Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?

Postby conniption » Fri Feb 11, 2022 7:28 pm

Freedom Talk 6 / Special - Scientific response to the Corona Committee

Watch: https://odysee.com/@DeansDanes:1/FT-6-Special:1 <<<

Dean's Danes
February 11th, 2022


Recently, Dr. Lanka and Dr. Kaufman agreed to participate in a scientific discussion on the core question of virus existence. Unfortunately, not only were they treated rudely, they were kept waiting for over an hour, even though there was no real reason to do so. Thousands of live viewers got extremely upset with the hosts because this discussion has been overdue and also because my three guests are the spearheads of the truth movement.

What happened at the Corona Committee? Many people were extremely upset about Dr. Wodarg and Mrs Fischer, also some with R. Fuellmich. We discussed the thoughts on the Corona Committee and other similar organizations that represent opposition to Covid measurements and vaccine mandates but at the same time are quite resistant to talk about the main issue, which is the non isolation of a virus.

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Re: "Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:45 pm

MacCruiskeen » 11 Feb 2022 08:31 wrote:Yes, quantum mechanics teaches us that we can all simply will our palace, our harem and our stretch limo into existence. Handy, that.

Can't remember the last time I had to stop at a red light. Must have been before I read The Secret.


When I was in my early 20s I had a mushroom trip that ... well one of the results was I had the shits with red lights and swore never to stop at one again. For two weeks i would drive aggressively at red lights and they'd change at the last moment. people started commenting on it and at one point I stopped doing it and started thinking about what was happening. At which point I started slowing down, questioning what was happening and not beiung as angry about the whole thing as I was. Naturally the first time I slowed for a red light it didn't change and I caught every one for the next 10 days or more.

I haven't read the Secret yet but that few weeks was a pretty interesting experience. And no quantum physics doesn't teach that but Crowley's religion does.

Anyway people have stopped believing in viruses etc., Tho more people believe in them even more strongly now.

And Christianity is as influential as ever.
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Re: "Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:50 pm

Harvey » 11 Feb 2022 00:20 wrote:
Joe Hillshoist » Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:28 pm wrote:Dear Mac,

If viruses aren't real then reality is so malleable that it behaves as if they were simply because so many people think they are real. So it doesn't matter.

Cheers


You're probably being facetious, but it could literally be true. If reality conforms to consciousness at least as much as consciousness conforms to reality this is not necessarily reducible to your logical construction. It could be that it matters very much.


I wasn't really being facetious. Of course its literally true.

Consciousness isn't something that happens in the front of the human brain and no where else. Even your unconscious processes are a form of consciousness. Most people don't accept that cos they don't understand what consciousness is and identify it with the activity in the front of their brain.

You're much better off not understanding what it is and not identifying it with anything, except vaguely...

Anyway everything is conscious to a degree or a point so a few people trying hard to believe in something won't have much more effect than those same people blowing into the wind to try and stop it taking the roof off their house.
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