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"Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?)

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:08 pm

The argument in a nutshell: The objects known as "viruses" and detected by means of electron microscopy are in fact debris from dead or dying cells -- not attackers from outside, but by-products of the body's own cleaning-up process. Or else they are endogenous exosomes, which actually do the cleaning-up, and thus play an important role in maintaining and restoring the body's health.

You will usually find firefighters (and debris) at the scene of a fire. This does not prove that the firefighters (or the debris) caused the fire. Nor does it make it likely that they did. Correlation does not imply causation.

"A Pandemic of Not Thinking": Dr Tom Cowan interviewed by Dr Sam Bailey (49m 27s):

https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/Dr-To ... Thinking:d

Cowan & Morell: The Contagion Myth: Why Viruses (including "Coronavirus") Are Not The Cause Of Disease.:

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I think it's essential reading right now. Someone has put up a free pdf, but do pay the authors if you can. The book is banned from Amazon.
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Re: "Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?

Postby Harvey » Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:05 pm

Failing to assume the required gravitas before the almighty Omicron (Moronic - really) will soon be a high offence. Best get it out of your system early...

^ Thanks for the link. It's come up a few times in the recent past, could be a revolutionary idea. Thanks for the prompt to dive in!
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:12 am

Harvey wrote:the almighty Omicron (Moronic - really)


I call it the OMIGOD variant.

Now that we've reached omicron there's only nine letters left in the Greek alphabet. (The psi variant will be mental.) After that, they'll need a fresh alphabet, Arabic maybe. Runes, possibly. Ogham is always an option. How about smoke signals? Habemus viram.

Fun Fact: No virus has ever been detected in the bodily fluids of any human or any other creature.

Many maladies have been assumed to be contagious. There was a baffling one that used to strike down sailors on long voyages. The doctors knew it was contagious (or infectious), because if one crew member got it, many others would soon follow in his wake. Then, one day, someone ate a lime...

Cowan argues that there are essentially only four ways of hurting or disabling a body. It can be:

1) Traumatised (that includes any wound or injury, from a stubbed toe to a severed spinal cord).
2) Starved of essential nutrients
3) Poisoned
or
4) Subjected to environmental insults, e.g. irradiated.

Infection by invasive pathogenic microbes appears nowhere on the list.

This is all highly thought-provoking, to say the least.

Questions come to mind. For instance, I'm wondering how Tom Cowan (and Stefan Lanka, Andrew Kaufman, et al) would explain the immediate steep reduction in deaths among women in maternity wards after Semmelweis persuaded doctors to wash their hands.
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Re: "Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?

Postby Harvey » Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:52 am

If you're a parent you already know how quickly 'stomach bugs' move through a school or household.

A few days before my daughter was born I walked past a young woman on my way to the corner shop. I hadn't noticed her at first but paid attention once she emitted an almighty sneeze and I felt the spray on my face. She was shambling forward in total self absorption clutching an entire toilet roll, clammy, deathly pale except for the red around her nose and eyes. More than twenty years later I can see it with great clarity. I thought 'Christ, here we go.' I was on my back for two days with no idea what hit me, it wasn't like any cold I'd had before. By the third day I could move unaided, which was lucky. For the next 12 hours my wife was in labour before we were forced to decamp to the hospital for a C section. The sequence of events seems clear enough, but since nobody else in the family got it, the story isn't entirely simple either.

I watched the video, what I like about this way of thinking is that it offers a valuable additional lens through which to consider the same sets of facts. Surely, the more ways we have of seeing any problem, the more our biological reality unfolds and may yet lead us out of our current morass.
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Postby Grizzly » Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:30 pm

tangential...



Dr. Charles Morgan speaks to cadets and faculty at West Point about a range of topics, including psychology, neurobiology, and the science of humans at war. Dr. Morgan's neurobiological and forensic research has established him as an international expert in post-traumatic stress disorder, eyewitness memory, and human performance under conditions of high stress.

The event was organized and hosted by the Modern War Institute at West Point.
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Re: "Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:26 pm

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https://viroliegy.com/

My journey into uncovering the Germ Theory lies.

A few years ago, a loved one of mine was misdiagnosed and mistreated by our medical system. They were abused with numerous toxic drugs and unnecessary invasive medical procedures that unfortunately cost them their life after years of suffering under horrific conditions.

Upon trying to discover the best ways to help them through this difficult health crisis, I stumbled upon the lies of Germ Theory and the disastrous state of our “health” care system. I found out about the battle between Antoine BeChamp vs. the plagarist Louis Pasteur. I began to study the differences between Germ Theory and Terrain Theory. I became aware of the influence of the Rockefellers on the creation of our medical establishment. I immersed myself in the work of David Crowe, Stefan Lanka, Roberto Giraldo, The Perth Group, Liam Scheff, Celia Farber, and many others.

Flash forward to 2020 and it became obvious that I could no longer sit on the sidelines while accumulating this information for myself. The world became enthralled in a “pandemic” based on numerous false pretenses and deliberate misinformation/propaganda. We found ourselves in a Testing Pandemic bolstered by FEAR. Too many were acting on inaccurate information from Pharmaceutically-controlled mainstream sources without ever being aware of the fact that there is a much more logical side to this debate. One based upon knowledge and not FEAR.

I decided it was time to share this information on Facebook with friends, family, and whomever needed to hear it. Unfortunately, this has become increasingly difficult in the face of the current censorship. This Orwellian landscape has led me to the creation of this blog. I plan to share the posts I have done on the falicious methods used in Virology, the lack of valid scientific evidence in regards to “viruses” and antibodies, the trickery involved in genomics, the dangers involved with vaccines and various medical interventions, as well as provide information I come across on the best ways to care for ones health naturally.

I am not a doctor, virologist, microbiologist, scientist, etc. Many will use this against me. My educational background is in Health and Exercise Science. I have been a personal trainer, a nutritionist, and currently I am a health/wellness coach. What I share here is based upon years of research and reading from the original studies/sources. I will always do my best to provide the sources for where the information comes from. It is the single greatest advice I took from Kary Mullis, the inventor of the PCR test currently being misused around the world:

“I think it’s simple logic. It doesn’t require that anyone have any specialized knowledge of the field. The fact is that if there were evidence that HIV causes AIDS-if anyone who was in fact a specialist in that area could write a review of the literature, in which a number of scientific studies were cited that either singly or as a group could support the hypothesis that HIV is the probable cause of AIDS-somebody would have written it. There’s no paper, nor is there a review mentioning a number of papers that all taken together would support that statement.” – Kary Mullis

I hope the information I’ve acquired on my journey will help you on your own.
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Re: "Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?

Postby PufPuf93 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:33 pm

Welcome back Mac, I sincerely missed you.

Viruses exist.
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Re: "Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?

Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:34 am

Thank you, PufPuf. How do you know viruses exist?
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Postby PufPuf93 » Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:47 pm

MacCruiskeen » Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:34 am wrote:Thank you, PufPuf. How do you know viruses exist?


You are welcome, Mac.

Viruses exist. There is a huge research and applied science history of viruses. Many lives have been saved, improved, or prolonged with this research. There have also been dead ends and mistakes (and humanity could be in such a position now).

What I see is that cv19 has been politicized and weaponized to foment chaos and that there are those that await such opportunities so to benefit as the expense of the many. Hard to envision how and when this will end. Could be cv19 gets put on backburner because of major war or nations that collapse.

Think it wrong to demonize Fauci. Have had the three Moderna shots (high risk as chemo for NHL twice since 2018 plus several cancer surgeries and diabetes II. Live in the boondocks so easy to isolate and was actually a rest from the medical merry-go-round).

Here is wiki on viruses. Imagining that viruses don't exist is akin to taking a flat earth seriously.

Virus

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virus

A virus is a submicroscopic infectious agent that replicates only inside the living cells of an organism.[1] Viruses infect all life forms, from animals and plants to microorganisms, including bacteria and archaea.[2][3] Since Dmitri Ivanovsky's 1892 article describing a non-bacterial pathogen infecting tobacco plants and the discovery of the tobacco mosaic virus by Martinus Beijerinck in 1898,[4] more than 9,000 virus species have been described in detail[5] of the millions of types of viruses in the environment.[6] Viruses are found in almost every ecosystem on Earth and are the most numerous type of biological entity.[7][8] The study of viruses is known as virology, a subspeciality of microbiology.

When infected, a host cell is forced to rapidly produce thousands of copies of the original virus. When not inside an infected cell or in the process of infecting a cell, viruses exist in the form of independent particles, or virions, consisting of (i) the genetic material, i.e., long molecules of DNA or RNA that encode the structure of the proteins by which the virus acts; (ii) a protein coat, the capsid, which surrounds and protects the genetic material; and in some cases (iii) an outside envelope of lipids. The shapes of these virus particles range from simple helical and icosahedral forms to more complex structures. Most virus species have virions too small to be seen with an optical microscope, as they are one-hundredth the size of most bacteria.

The origins of viruses in the evolutionary history of life are unclear: some may have evolved from plasmids—pieces of DNA that can move between cells—while others may have evolved from bacteria. In evolution, viruses are an important means of horizontal gene transfer, which increases genetic diversity in a way analogous to sexual reproduction.[9] Viruses are considered by some biologists to be a life form, because they carry genetic material, reproduce, and evolve through natural selection, although they lack the key characteristics, such as cell structure, that are generally considered necessary criteria for defining life. Because they possess some but not all such qualities, viruses have been described as "organisms at the edge of life",[10] and as self-replicators.[11]

Viruses spread in many ways. One transmission pathway is through disease-bearing organisms known as vectors: for example, viruses are often transmitted from plant to plant by insects that feed on plant sap, such as aphids; and viruses in animals can be carried by blood-sucking insects. Influenza viruses spread in the air by coughing and sneezing. Norovirus and rotavirus, common causes of viral gastroenteritis, are transmitted by the faecal–oral route, passed by hand-to-mouth contact or in food or water. The infectious dose of norovirus required to produce infection in humans is less than 100 particles.[12] HIV is one of several viruses transmitted through sexual contact and by exposure to infected blood. The variety of host cells that a virus can infect is called its "host range". This can be narrow, meaning a virus is capable of infecting few species, or broad, meaning it is capable of infecting many.[13]

Viral infections in animals provoke an immune response that usually eliminates the infecting virus. Immune responses can also be produced by vaccines, which confer an artificially acquired immunity to the specific viral infection. Some viruses, including those that cause AIDS, HPV infection, and viral hepatitis, evade these immune responses and result in chronic infections. Several classes of antiviral drugs have been developed.


Contents
1 Etymology
2 History
3 Origins
4 Microbiology
4.1 Life properties
4.2 Structure
4.2.1 Giant viruses
4.3 Genome
4.3.1 Genome size
4.4 Genetic mutation
4.5 Replication cycle
4.6 Genome replication
4.7 Cytopathic effects on the host cell
4.8 Dormant and latent infections
4.9 Host range
5 Classification
5.1 ICTV classification
5.2 Baltimore classification
6 Role in human disease
6.1 Epidemiology
6.2 Epidemics and pandemics
6.3 Cancer
6.4 Host defence mechanisms
6.5 Prevention and treatment
6.5.1 Vaccines
6.5.2 Antiviral drugs
7 Infection in other species
7.1 Animal viruses
7.2 Plant viruses
7.3 Bacterial viruses
7.4 Archaeal viruses
8 Role in aquatic ecosystems
9 Role in evolution
10 Applications
10.1 Life sciences and medicine
10.1.1 Virotherapy
10.2 Materials science and nanotechnology
10.3 Synthetic viruses
10.4 Weapons
11 See also
12 References
12.1 Notes
12.2 Bibliography
13 External links
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:27 pm

You didn't answer the question, PufPuf, and I already knew what Wiki has to say about it. (A link would have sufficed.) I know what the majority view is. It's disappointing to see you reach for the cheap "flat earth" put-down, but I suppose it was inevitable that someone would.

I'm glad to hear you survived the shots. Most people do. That's not the point at issue here.
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Postby PufPuf93 » Mon Nov 29, 2021 2:19 pm

MacCruiskeen » Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:27 am wrote:You didn't answer the question, PufPuf, and I already knew what Wiki has to say about it.

How do I know that viruses exist?

I have spent my life in a society where viruses, treatment of virus illnesses, and vaccines have long been a part of medical practice.

Have not done much in close to 20 years, hiding out in the mountains that are my home.

But I am a highly educated in biological sciences. Graduated with highest honors from Cal; major forest science, minor soil science. Lots of science, lots of biology granted not much human biology. etc.
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Postby Harvey » Mon Nov 29, 2021 2:27 pm

^ I believe that viruses exist because the theory makes sense in terms of my own experience. How I know that viruses exist is an entirely different question.

I accept that I do not know how I know, that in fact, I have a belief, which is not necessarily knowledge. If it were knowledge, I would be able to tell you exactly how I know viruses exist. I believe this is the philosophical point Mac is asking of you.

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Postby PufPuf93 » Mon Nov 29, 2021 2:48 pm

Harvey » Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:27 am wrote:^ I believe that viruses exist because the theory makes sense in terms of my own experience. How I know that viruses exist is an entirely different question.

I accept that I do not know how I know, that in fact, I have a belief, which is not necessarily knowledge. If it were knowledge, I would be able to tell you exactly how I know viruses exist. I believe this is the philosophical point Mac is asking of you.

How do you know what you know?


Part of the contemporary human experience is our everyday lives are chock full of technological marvels that are far from readily discerned yet we accept and depend on the technology. Viruses are no different. There is a substantial body of scientists and research involved in virus research and applying the research.
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Postby Harvey » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:03 pm

PufPuf93 » Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:48 pm wrote:
Harvey » Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:27 am wrote:^ I believe that viruses exist because the theory makes sense in terms of my own experience. How I know that viruses exist is an entirely different question.

I accept that I do not know how I know, that in fact, I have a belief, which is not necessarily knowledge. If it were knowledge, I would be able to tell you exactly how I know viruses exist. I believe this is the philosophical point Mac is asking of you.

How do you know what you know?


Part of the contemporary human experience is our everyday lives are chock full of technological marvels that are far from readily discerned yet we accept and depend on the technology. Viruses are no different. There is a substantial body of scientists and research involved in virus research and applying the research.


I'm usually far from graceful, but in this instance, at least I am able to admit that I have no idea whether what I know is true, I only know why I believe it. It's definitely worth having this conversation with yourself now and then as I'm sure you appreciate.

Your answer appears to be that you do not know if viruses exist, but you accept that they do because of the opinions of others.

Is that a fair summary?

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Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:19 pm

Harvey wrote:I believe this is the philosophical point Mac is asking of you.


It's not just philosophical, though, it's highly practical. Indeed, it's urgent. Since late 2019, billions of people have had their lives disrupted or destroyed by powerful actors who cite TheScience™ as justification for their Great Reset. For nearly two years now, hundreds of millions of defenceless children have been force-masked, antisocially-distanced, browbeaten, frightened, indoctrinated, addicted to screens, thorougly and lastingly conditioned, marked for life, taught to fear the air they breathe and the humans who breathe it -- and now they're being pricked with dangerous experimental gene-fiddling substances they demonstrably do not need, but which will make billions of dollars for the manufacturers.

All this is all "justified" by reference to Germ Theory, the sacred, foundational and barely-challengeable dogma that they, we, all of us, are under constant mortal threat from ubiquitous Flying Killer-Dots, tiny wee monsters we can't even see, vindictive little shits, minuscule creepy-crawlies that aren't even alive but enjoy nothing better than sneaking inside us, making us sick and killing us..

Are even scientists human? Call me cynical, but I think they are. Are they sometimes lazy, vain, complacent or corrupt? (Whaddya, whaddya.) Do powerful individuals and institutions have a vested interest in not biting the hand that feeds them? (You go too far, sir, by God you go too far.)

Have scientific paradigms ever changed? Yes, but it takes a lot of time and effort and courage to change them. Inertia is a powerful force. We might ask Copernicus, Galileo, Einstein, Alfred Wegener or Ignaz Semmelweis, just for starters.

Can it be that even today's TheScience™ is not infallible? Is it possible, for instance, that the huge and increasingly lucrative business of Virology is a house built on sand? These questions might conceivably be worth looking into, while there's still time and while we're still allowed to.
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