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Ghislaine Maxwell Trial

Postby Belligerent Savant » Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:29 pm

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This may merit its own thread, though mods are welcome to merge it with the Epstein one currently near the top of General Discussion.


Epstein's Pilot Names Names, Recalls Shuttling Clinton, Trump, Spacey And Prince Andrew

Jeffrey Epstein's former "Lolita Express" pilot detailed several high-profile individuals he recalls among the passengers on Epstein's numerous flights around the world.

While under oath during the Ghislaine Maxwell trial on Tuesday, pilot Larry Visoski Jr. was asked to describe his experience, to which he said "I certainly remember President Trump, but not many people associated with him," adding that he also flew Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, violinist Itzhak Perlman, former Senator John Glenn and Prince Andrew. He said that while he was tasked with 'cleaning up' after one of Clinton's flights, he 'never saw any sexual activity' on the plane.

Trump and Epstein were known to have associated with each other in the 90s as New York City playboys and successful entrepreneurs. As the Daily Mail reports, "It was previously reported that Trump had flown on Epstein's plane from Palm Beach, where both had homes, to Newark, in 1997. Epstein is also said to have flown on one of Trump's private planes."

Trump is said to have severed his relationship with Epstein and banned him from Mar-a-Lago after the pedophile was reportedly trying to recruit a towel attendant in the early 2000s - prior to his conviction for soliciting child prostitution.

According to the Mail, Visoski spent most of Tuesday talking about girls Epstein brought aboard the plane.

"Mr. Epstein brought her to the cockpit. She had piercing power blue eyes," he said of one alleged victim - to which Maxwell's attorney Christian Everdell asked "And beyond the striking blue eyes, you have said she had large breasts, right?"

To which Visosky replied that she was a "mature woman."

When asked if he remembers Virginia Roberts, Visoski replied, 'Yes. A shorter woman with dirty blonde hair.'

'She didn't look young. I mean, whatever you decipher is the definition of young. But she was a woman in my category,' he added.

Maxwell entered the Manhattan courtroom Tuesday morning wearing a cream sweater, black slacks and looked on as Visoski was questioned.

He said Maxwell 'was the Number 2' and that 'Epstein was the big Number 1' when asked about their relationship.

When asked how many other assistants Epstein had in addition to Maxwell, he replied that there were many, identifying Maxwell's own assistants.

He specifically named Sarah Kellen - who has been accused of playing a pivotal role in Epstein's empire: procuring girls, coaching them and acting as a 'lieutenant' to Maxwell. -Daily Mail

Visoski also identified parts of Epstein's 10,000 New Mexico ranch where airplanes were parked - describing how he used to go into the main residence to pick up luggage and help install electronics, a task he said he also performed on Epstein's private Caribbean island, Little St. James.

He said that Epstein's relationship with Ghislaine Maxwell was "more personal than business," but "I wouldn't characterize it as romantic."




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Re: Ghislaine Maxwell Trial

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:15 am

Maxwell entered the Manhattan courtroom Tuesday morning wearing a cream sweater, black slacks and looked on as Visoski was questioned.


WEhat is this?

Vogue?

JHF!!! Who cares what she's wearing!!
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Re: Ghislaine Maxwell Trial

Postby Grizzly » Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:33 am


Cindy McCain Admits "Everyone Knew About Epstein"
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Re: Ghislaine Maxwell Trial

Postby Harvey » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:33 am

"We all knew."

Aiding and abetting?

...it does not take much evidence to satisfy the facilitation element once the defendant's knowledge of the unlawful purpose is established.


It does imply a wide reaching collective guilt, doesn't it? Of course they knew. Some of them were buying product - blackmail - and perhaps others were themselves product.

Do you think it possible that in their relationship, Epstein was akin to a useful employee and Maxwell to an employer? Especially when looking beyond Maxwell to the past associates of her father.
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Re: Ghislaine Maxwell Trial

Postby Marionumber1 » Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:35 pm

Harvey » Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:33 am wrote:Do you think it possible that in their relationship, Epstein was akin to a useful employee and Maxwell to an employer? Especially when looking beyond Maxwell to the past associates of her father.


I would guess it was the other way around, with Epstein as Ghislaine's handler. That matches with the observation by Larry Visoski in the OP article that "Maxwell 'was the Number 2' and that 'Epstein was the big Number 1'". Accounts of their relationship suggest that Epstein was using Ghislaine rather than the other way around, and while there are reports from Ari Ben-Menashe that Epstein was working for Robert Maxwell, I suspect that was only a temporary alliance while he actually worked on behalf of a more US-centric faction within the intelligence community. Epstein's likely recruitment by OSS agent Donald Barr (who is of course CIA employee and cover-up artist William Barr's father) in the 70s screams CIA, and an Ohio investigation into Les Wexner — a powerful Columbus businessman involved with the US mob and with CIA drug-running front Southern Air Transport — turned up evidence that Wexner's protege Epstein was a person of interest in Robert Maxwell's death. Wexner, by the way, was likely the direct overseer of Epstein's blackmail operation, given the accounts of how technicians from New Albany OH (where Wexner lived) would service the video recording equipment in Epstein's residences. Sounds as if Robert Maxwell got bumped off by Wexner's faction which then filled the void among Israeli intelligence groups operating in the US, and ended up employing Robert's daughter as their own operative.
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Re: Ghislaine Maxwell Trial

Postby Harvey » Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:37 pm

Cheers Mario.
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Re: Ghislaine Maxwell Trial

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:38 am

Marionumber1 » 02 Dec 2021 04:35 wrote:
Harvey » Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:33 am wrote:Do you think it possible that in their relationship, Epstein was akin to a useful employee and Maxwell to an employer? Especially when looking beyond Maxwell to the past associates of her father.


I would guess it was the other way around, with Epstein as Ghislaine's handler. That matches with the observation by Larry Visoski in the OP article that "Maxwell 'was the Number 2' and that 'Epstein was the big Number 1'". Accounts of their relationship suggest that Epstein was using Ghislaine rather than the other way around, and while there are reports from Ari Ben-Menashe that Epstein was working for Robert Maxwell, I suspect that was only a temporary alliance while he actually worked on behalf of a more US-centric faction within the intelligence community. Epstein's likely recruitment by OSS agent Donald Barr (who is of course CIA employee and cover-up artist William Barr's father) in the 70s screams CIA, and an Ohio investigation into Les Wexner — a powerful Columbus businessman involved with the US mob and with CIA drug-running front Southern Air Transport — turned up evidence that Wexner's protege Epstein was a person of interest in Robert Maxwell's death. Wexner, by the way, was likely the direct overseer of Epstein's blackmail operation, given the accounts of how technicians from New Albany OH (where Wexner lived) would service the video recording equipment in Epstein's residences. Sounds as if Robert Maxwell got bumped off by Wexner's faction which then filled the void among Israeli intelligence groups operating in the US, and ended up employing Robert's daughter as their own operative.


Maxwell also had a relationship with m16 didn't he?

There is certainly alot of benefit to three (reasonably well allied) intelligence services to run this op.
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Re: Ghislaine Maxwell Trial

Postby Belligerent Savant » Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:58 pm

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The Black Book Emerges: Day 4 of The Maxwell Trial

Following a series of emotionally intense courthouse sessions earlier this week, Thursday’s proceedings commenced this morning at the SDNY courthouse with testimony given by the fourth witness of the trial: Paul Kane of NYC's Professional Children's School. Kane would be asked by prosecutors to verify the validity of a document listing Jeffrey Epstein as “person of financial responsibility” for a 12th grade student’s application to NYC's Professional Children's School. Paul would then be cross-examined and excused by the defense. Kane’s testimony would result in several objections and a sidebar regarding the legitimacy of information displayed on the document after the defense attempted to misrepresent evidence to the jury by leading the witness.

Dr Lisa Rocchio, the fifth witness to take the stand, was introduced by the prosecution as a grooming prevention expert. Her testimony would discuss known and repeated strategies (also employed by Maxwell and Epstein) to groom underage sex trafficking victims. These predatory behaviors included establishing relationships with the parents of the child in an effort to gain the child’s trust, persuading trafficking victims with gifts or money, gradually normalizing sexual assault and abuse, and isolating their victims from potential support groups (also a known cult strategy).

Rocchio’s recollection of previous instances of abuse she’s observed during her time as a professional paints an incredibly grim picture of the predatory, manipulative strategies pursued by pedophiles that aim to groom children for sex.
“I've seen grooming in the Boy Scouts through a special camping trip. Or jewelry, anything to make the children feel they are appreciated.”


Continuous objections to Rocchio’s testimony by the defense would provoke the day’s first private sidebar called by Judge Nathan. Rocchio made statements acknowledging the high occurrence of repeated abuse suffered by child sex trafficking victims, responding “very common” when asked “how often is it for a child to be abused by the same perp.” The grooming prevention expert would also explain that it is statistically unlikely for any child who is being sex trafficked to attempt to report the abuse to the police.

Cross-examination of Dr Rocchio would soon bring several objections from prosecution as defense attempted to lead the witness to comment on unrelated hypothetical situations relating to the effect of brain injuries and alcohol on memory recall. Judge Nathan sustained several objections made on the grounds of lacking foundational relevance. Maxwell’s Defense team excused Dr Rocchio.

Juan Patricio Alessi was called by prosecution next. The sixth individual to occupy the witness stand. An Ecuadorian national, Juan stated he was formerly employed by Lex Wexner’s mother. Juan had worked on Ms. Wexner’s house (where he had met Epstein, who eventually hired him as a house manager). Juan would proceed to disclose he possessed a close relationship with both Maxwell and Epstein, stating he had his own room at Epstein’s Palm Beach mansion and would “bring his wife and other girls to help him” when working for the now deceased pedophile. Juan would also describe Ghislaine Maxwell as the “lady” of Epstein’s house, stating Maxwell accompanied him to Palm Beach “95 percent of the time”. Juan also suggested he had reduced contact with Epstein once Maxwell started handling Jeffrey’s schedule and affairs.

Alessi would proceed to reference a checklist given to him by Maxwell stating specifics relating to how employees of Epstein were expected to conduct themselves. One line reading “Remember that you see nothing, hear nothing, say nothing, except to answer a question directed at you.” Other requests made by Maxwell that he felt were particularly “degrading” were also detailed, providing insight into efforts made by Ghislaine within her social life to demean and humiliate those around her, perhaps a quality nurtured and encouraged by her now deceased father.

Alessi also disclosed a visit to Epstein’s Island.
“I was on a cruise with my wife to St. Thomas. They picked us up and showed us Little St. James. It was huge.”

Juan proceeded to inform prosecution of the normalized routine of Epstein’s child sex abuse, stating he remembered Epstein would receive three massages a day. Alessi would describe numerous occasions that he had cleaned up Epstein’s massage rooms. This testimony would also identify several other individuals that were present at Epstein’s Palm Beach Mansion, specifically mentioning the presence of Maxwell’s assistant (then Sarah Kellen) and recalling several instances of witnessing “Jane” and Epstein child sex trafficking victim Virginia Giuffre Roberts at Epstein’s Florida address.

Alessi also testified as to the authenticity of both Epstein black books (both the 1997 copy and 2015 copy leak by Gawker was authenticated), also mentioning Maxwell kept a call directory (engraved with her initials) that he had witnessed. Juan stated he had seen these books on several separate occasions and recalled they were “full of names” acknowledging the evidence as known to him. This is significant, as it allows attorneys to reference the black books as legitimate accounts of evidence, providing tools for prosecution to evaluate the motivations for Epstein possessing such relationships.

Thursday’s court proceedings would conclude with Alessi identifying several individuals present in photos with Epstein that were on display inside the Palm Beach Mansion. Juan stated, “Photos of Epstein with important people… Donald Trump, The Pope, Fidel Castro, I think.” Alessi also stated he had been questioned by police after receiving $6,300 from Epstein but was not arrested. Juan recalled signing a Non-Disclosure Agreement when working for Maxwell and Epstein, a common tactic implored by abusers in efforts to convince the victim of illegitimate legal understandings (as, by law, an NDA cannot apply to information relating to an illegal activity in any way).

Alessi’s testimony will continue tomorrow as defense opens proceedings with a cross-examination of witness Alessi. Day five trial coverage available tomorrow as prosecution builds upon significant testimony that demonstrates the global reach of Epstein’s relationships and operation. Juan’s efforts to identify several influential individuals present in Epstein’s photos will provide further grounds for lines of questioning focused on discerning the implicit involvement of these public figures.



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Here's All 26 Locations Bill Clinton Flew With Jeffrey Epstein On The Lolita Express

Bill Clinton's Global Flight Log On The Infamous Lolita Express

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No matter the extent of the relationship. There was a reason why Clinton traveled on the Lolita Express 26 times between February 2002 and November 2003. We have taken the liberty to detail all of the trips below. There is a lot to digest. Good luck and Godspeed.

1. February 9, 2002: Miami International Airport to Westchester County Airport. Passengers: Bill Clinton, Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislane Maxwell and Sean Koo. There were also a few unidentified passengers listed as four secret service members, two males, one female and AP.

2. March 19, 2002: New York to London. Passengers include Bill Clinton, Doug Band, Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislane Maxwell and Sean Koo. There were also three secret service members aboard the flight.

3. March 21, 2002: London to New York. Passengers include Bill Clinton, Doug Band, Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislane Maxwell, Sean Koo and Naomi Campbell. There were also ten secret service members.

4. May 22, 2002: Atsugi Naval Air Facility to Hong Kong. Passengers include Jeffery Epstein, Ghislane Maxwell, Sean Koo, Bill Clinton and Doug Band. There were five non-identified guests by the names of MCXG, Janice, Jessica, Pete Rathgeb and 6 Pax.

5. May 23, 2002: Hong Kong to Shenzhen Bao’an International Airport. Guests include Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislane Maxwell, Sean Koo, Bill Clinton and Doug Band. The four non-identified guests are MCXG, Janice, Jessica and Pete Rathgeb.

6. May 23, 2002: Shenzhen Bao’an International Airport to Singapore Changi Airport. Passengers include Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislane Maxwell, Sean Koo, Bill Clinton and Doug Band. Non-identified guests include MCXG, Janice, Jessica and Pete Rathgeb.

7. May 25, 2002: Bankgkok to Brunei International Airport. Passengers include Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislane Maxwell, Sean Koo, Bill Clinton and Doug Band. Non-identified guests include MCXG, Janice, Jessica and Pete Rathgeb.

8. May 25, 2002: Singapore to Bangkok. Passengers include Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislane Maxwell, Sean Koo, Bill Clinton and Doug Band. Non-identified passengers include MCXG, Janice, Jessica and Pete Rathgeb.

9. July 13, 2002: Santa Maria Airport in Porto, PT to New York. Passengers include Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislane Maxwell, Sean Koo, Bill Clinton and Doug Band. Non-identified guests include AP, CL, Mike and eight secret service members.

10. July 13, 2002: Ratbat, MA to Santa Maria Airport Vilia do Porto, PT. Passengers include Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislane Maxwell, Sean Koo, Bill Clinton and Doug Band. Non-identified guests include AP, CL, Mike and eight secret service members.

11. September 21, 2002: New York to Santa Maria Airport Vila do Porto, PT. Passengers include Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker, Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislane Maxwell, Sean Koo, Chauntae Davies, Andrea Mitrovich and Doug Band. Non-identified guests include CL, David Slang, Jim Kennedy, Eric Nonacs, Rodney Swater, Casey & Laura Wasserman, Ron Durkle and Gayle Smith.

12. September 22, 2002: Vila do Porto, PT to Kotoka International Airport in Accra, GH. Guests include Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker, Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislane Maxwell, Sean Koo, Chauntae Davies, Andrea Mitrovich, Doug Band. Non-identified guests include CL, David Slang, Jim Kennedy, Eric Nonacs, Rodney Swater, Casey & Laura Wasserman, Ron Durkle and Gayle Smith.

13. September 23, 2002: Accra, GH to Abuja, NG. Passengers include Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker, Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislane Maxwell, Sean Koo, Chauntae Davies, Andrea Mitrovich and Doug Band. Non-identified passengers include CL, David Slang, Jim Kennedy, Eric Nonacs, Rodney Swater, Casey & Laura Wasserman, Ron Durkle and Gayle Smith.

14. September 24, 2002: Abuja, NG to Kigali, RW. Passengers include Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker, Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislane Maxwell, Sean Koo, Chauntae Davies, Andrea Mitrovich and Doug band. Non-identified guests include CL, David Slang, Jim Kennedy, Eric Nonacs, Rodney Swater, Casey & Laura Wasserman and Gayle Smith.

15. September 25, 2002: Kigali, RW to Maputo, MZ. Passengers include Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker, Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislane Maxwell, Sean Koo, Chauntae Davies, Andrea Mitrovich and Doug Band. Non-identified guests include CL, David Slang, Jim Kennedy, Eric Nonacs, Rodney Swater, Casey & Laura Wasserman, Gayle Smith and Ira Magaziner.

16. September 26, 2002: Maputo, MZ to Cape Town, ZA. Passengers include Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker, Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislane Maxwell, Sean Koo, Chauntae Davies, Andrea Mitrovich and Doug Band. Non-identified passengers include CL, David Slang, Jim Kennedy, Eric Nonacs, Rodney Swater, Casey & Laura Wasserman, Gayle Smith and Ira Magaziner.

17. September 27, 2002: Cape Town, ZA to Johannesburg, ZA. Passengers include Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker and Doug Band. Non-identified passengers include David Slang, Jim Kennedy, Eric Nonacs, Rodney Swater, Casey & Laura Wasserman, Gayle Smith and Ira Magaziner.

18. September 28, 2002: Johannesburg, ZA to Cape Town, ZA. Passengers include Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker and Doug Band. Non-identified passengers include David Slang, Jim Kennedy, Eric Nonacs, Rodney Swater and Casey & Laura Wasserman.

19. September 29, 2002: Accra, GH to Paris, FR. Passengers include Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker, Doug Band, Jeffery Epstein, Ghislane Maxwell, Sean Koo and Andrea Mitrovich. Non-identified passengers include David Slang, Jim Kennedy, Eric Nonacs, Rodney Swater, Casey & Laura Wasserman, CL and CD.

20. September 29, 2002: Paris, FR to London, GB. Passengers include Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker, Doug Band, Ghislane Maxwell and Andrea Mitrovich. Non-identified passengers include David Slang, Jim Kennedy, Eric Nonacs, Rodney Swater, and CL.

21. September 29, 2002: Cape Town, ZA to Accra, GH. Passengers include Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker, Doug Band, Jeffery Epstein, Ghislane Maxwell, Sean Koo and Andrea Mitrovich. Non-identified passengers include David Slang, Jim Kennedy, Eric Nonacs, Rodney Swater, Casey & Laura Wasserman, CL and CD.

22. November 4, 2003: Brussels, BE to Oslo, NO. Passengers include Jeffrey Epstein, Andrea Mitrovich, Doug Band and Bill Clinton. Non-identified passengers include four secret service members and 3K.

23. November 5, 2003: Oslo, NO to Novosibirsk, RU. Passengers include Jeffrey Epstein, Andrea Mitrovich, Ghislane Maxwell, Sean Koo, Doug Band and Bill Clinton. Non-identified passengers include four secret service members.

24. November 6, 2003: Novosibirsk, RU to Hong Kong. Passengers include Jeffrey Epstein, Andrea Mitrovich, Ghislane Maxwell, Sean Koo, Doug Band and Bill Clinton. Non-identified passengers include four secret service members.

25. November 9, 2003: Hong Kong to Chengdu, CN. Passengers include Jeffrey Epstein, Andrea Mitrovich, Ghislane Maxwell, Sean Koo and Bill Clinton. Non-identified guests include DB, Ira Magaziner and four secret service members.

26. November 9, 2003: Chengdu, CN to Beijing, CN. Passengers include Jeffrey Epstein, Andrea Mitrovich, Ghislane Maxwell, Sean Koo and Bill Clinton. Non-identified guests include DB, IM, Jantelle Torie, Joe Ruben, Joe Novich and Scott Rueber.

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Re: Ghislaine Maxwell Trial

Postby Belligerent Savant » Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:32 pm

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The Ghislaine Maxwell case may close at the end of this week instead of going through 5-6 weeks. Unbelievable. They could have gone on for months with evidence. Feels staged and suppressed.

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Re: Ghislaine Maxwell Trial

Postby stickdog99 » Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:38 pm

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... Paris.html

Lookalikes put world off scent: Ghislaine Maxwell was the most hunted woman on the planet and hiding out in US... so her team hired DOUBLES of herself and brother Kevin to take a stroll through Paris - then tipped off photographers

Epstein's double didn't kill himself.
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Re: Ghislaine Maxwell Trial

Postby Marionumber1 » Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:21 pm

Joe Hillshoist » Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:38 pm wrote:Maxwell also had a relationship with m16 didn't he?

There is certainly alot of benefit to three (reasonably well allied) intelligence services to run this op.


Indeed; he was at least been a triple agent with Mossad, the KGB, and MI6. And all the while, Maxwell also appears to have been a collaborator in CIA operations such as Iran-Contra and the rise of oligarchy in the former Soviet Union (E. P. Heidner, "Collateral Damage 911", 2010/09/01):

The 1991 coup against Gorbachev was engineered by KGB General Vladimir Kruchkov [121] who reported to General Victor Cherbrikov. Both of these men were business partners with Robert Maxwell, a British financial mogul, a documented Israeli secret service agent, and a representative of U.S. intelligence interests. Maxwell assisted Cherbrikov in selling military weaponry to Iran and the Nicaraguan Contras during the course of the Iran Contra deals, and made hundreds of millions of dollars available to Cherbrikov’s Russian banks. [122] Shortly before the attempted coup of 1991, Maxwell met with KGB General Vladimir Kruchkov on Maxwell’s private yacht. [123] A year earlier, it had been Maxwell that initiated the dialogue about a coup with Kruchkov. [124] In the same month as the coup, Maxwell was in Russia and received $780 million dollars from the CIA via the Israelis to pass on to General Kruchkov. [125] Maxwell’s chief U.S. connection was Senator John Tower, who was long time confidante of George H. W. Bush and participant in the October Surprise. After his Senatorial career, Tower actually worked for Maxwell on the Board of one of Maxwell’s smaller publishing firms - Pergamon-Brassey. In this operation, Maxwell was supported by a former four star general, a retired U.S. Air Force General and a retired British Major General. [126] It was Tower who released a statement exonerating Bush from involvement in the October Surprise before the Tower Commission had interviewed even a third of the scheduled witnesses. This statement is now seen as all the more brazen in that the commission was provided with eye-witness testimony from two individuals who said they saw Bush at the meeting, as well as being provide a list of 16 more witnesses and a video-tape. [127] [128] Tower had arranged for the Israeli government to provide a $1 billion dollar loan to Maxwell in 1988, [129] and given the generosity of U.S. financial aid to Israel, it might be fair to argue this was a pass-through loan. [130] Tower had introduced Maxwell to George Bush in 1976, for the sole purpose of using Maxwell as an intermediary between Bush and the Soviet Intelligence. [131] Shortly after the coup, Maxwell died mysteriously on his yacht after attempting to blackmail the U.S. and Israeli intelligence operations. It is widely rumored that he was assassinated by either CIA or Mossad agents in lieu of them delivering his expected blackmail payment. Maxwell’s link back to George Bush died just as mysteriously. Senator Tower died in a plane crash and under suspicious circumstance in April of 1991. Maxwell’s wife was advised by a CIA agent to discourage any investigation into her husband’s death if she valued her life. [132] The audio tapes he kept of his phone calls with Kruchkov disappeared. [133]


At a high level, these major intelligence services are all effectively collaborating on the same global project.
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Re: Ghislaine Maxwell Trial

Postby drstrangelove » Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:27 pm

At a high level, these major intelligence services are all effectively collaborating on the same global project.

Yeah, they work for the international banking fraternity. The same people Maxwell and Epstein worked for. The confusion arises when it appears people like Maxwell and Epstein work FOR intelligence agencies, rather than separately though alongside them for the same higher power.

This is why the most highly publicised conspiracy journalism is the stuff which tries to paint the Epstein operation as a State intelligence agency one, as opposed to how families like Rothschild and Rockefeller keep their creatures loyal. Hence you get focus on the mafia and mega group. Which play roles in this. But this is a very old sleight of hand. It was played with the Kennedy assassination too, whereby many were convinced "the mafia" killed Kennedy. As if they would be allowed to do this without the permission of the CIA, or further still the banking fraternity.

If Epstein worked for Mossad, CIA, MI6, then who do these agencies work for? Obviously not National interests as such a thing is a contradiction, as you cannot for and against your own Nation. The only logical explanation is a international power structure. The only international power structure is economic. It is controlled by economic institutions.

Epstein literally worked in high finance. This wasn't his "cover", he worked in high finance.
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Re: Ghislaine Maxwell Trial

Postby stickdog99 » Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:23 pm

Interesting how much media attention we in the USA have seen about this trial an The Trial of Julian Assange compared to the Kyle Rittenhouse trial.

As for who Epstein worked for, one thing that has always struck me as bizarre is why the same people who call informed speculation and analysis about the Maine, the Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, the Gulf of Tonkin, the Kennedy assassinations, 9/11, the 2007-08 crash and bailouts, the Great Reset, etc. "wild conspiracy theories" because "nobody could keep that secret" have so little trouble believing that organized crime can keep its operations largely clandestine. I guess our banking elite are not supposed to have organizational skills?
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Re: Ghislaine Maxwell Trial

Postby Grizzly » Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:57 pm

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/12/the-prosecution-is-fumbling-its-case-against-ghislaine-maxwell
The Prosecution Is Fumbling Its Case Against Ghislaine Maxwell (vanityfair.com)

She's gonna walk. Coney’s daughter is there to make it happen.

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