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(Some readers will no doubt take this post as an invitation to offer a recitation on the familiar theme of "Democrats are just as bad as Republicans." Even if I ask those readers not to do it, they will do it anyways, due to an inflexible response mechanism. When the audience makes you break out in hives, it's time to leave the stage.)

I wrote a simple post about what I consider a self-destructive attitude. Only one or two people attempted to address that topic. The rest veered off into weirdness. A dull and predictable sort of weirdness.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: The CD buffs are religious zealots. They are missionaries who do not leave your doorstep even when you yell "Go away!"

As objective traffic tools will tell anyone, my stats go DOWN when this conspiratorial crap appears. And it's not as though I make any money on this site.

If you people think I'm hungry for a wider audience, think again. For Christmas, I want fewer but better readers.

While I have only skimmed these remarks (while holding my nose), I do want to thank all the above writers. Especially the ones who insisted that I printed the above post to increase stats, even though I had already made clear that this topic drives the audience down. But of course, mere reality does not matter to CD enthusiasts.

Now I know that the audience for this blog consists of pseudoscience buffs who, when one physicist in Utah takes a stance against every other scientist in the world, goes for the one over the many.

Thanks, guys. You've made my decision easier.

Of course, you can simply presume that my eldritch NWO masters made the decision for me. Or just go neener neener neener. I can't care: There's plenty of worse shit to care about.
# posted by Joseph : 5:54 PM

Rigorous Intuition wrote:emailed Joe:

I've avoided the 9/11 morass lately, other than to point readers to Hopsicker, because it's become so damn depressing. It's as if there is nothing - NOTHING! - to hear but demolition.

And those of us who don't buy it - well, there MUST be some reason why we don't.

It sickens me. The bad guys won again. 9/11 Truthers think they have them cornered over here, while actually they're dancing the hokey-pokey over there.

I think we'll be seeing a lot more blog fatigue soon. Jeff's just anounced he's taking a well-earned rest and we should respect that. I know most posters on the forum don't cause him much concern but with time on hand, a drink in one, mouse in other and a keyboard within reach a lot of damage can be done. Let's not! (This is as much note-to-self as anticipation of anyone else's behaviour.)

That's not to poo on the Party Season, the Festive Vibe or however you see it. I know Jeff doesn't mind a bit of frivolity now and then, 'cos he's tolerated me long enough, but if things get out out of hand he'll have to step in....

Squinting through a microscope can make it hard to focus on the elephant in the room.

I recently got to witness first-hand why one researcher suggested the 9/11 [b]"Truth Movement" might more accurately be called the 9/11 UFO Cult,[/b] due to the presence of an absurdly-large contingent of people with truly bizarre belief systems. (sunny: so according to Hoppy's logic, everything else Jeff writes is suspect, because he also writes about UFO's)

One such individual, in an email bristling with hostility, recently demanded I admit that explosives had been placed in the World Trade Center before the attack. Otherwise, I must perforce immediately explain to him how terrorists could possibly have made WTC Building 7 fall.

I'm sure you've met the same fate. And I'm afraid I was rather, um, intemperate in the use of capital letters in my response:
I UNCOVER MORE FACTS -- NOT OPINIONS OR SPECULATION -- ABOUT 9/11 EVERY MONTH THAN THE ENTIRE 9/11 TRUTH MOVEMENT HAS DURING THE ENTIRE COURSE OF ITS KHASHOGGI-FUNDED HISTORY.

You say they knew the attack was coming and they didn't do a thing to stop it. If you believe that, FIND THE FUCKING EVIDENCE AND I'LL BE THE FIRST TO CONGRATULATE YOU. It's NOT altogether inconceivable that you're right, and that they let it happen.

But the MOST that can be said about that bit of speculation is that it remains to be seen. And that is a far cry from you 9/11 truth goons, who uniformly find it difficult to conceive of 19 Arab men hating us enough to blow themselves up. If there weren't hundreds, no THOUSANDS of Arab suicide bombers, there might be a rationale for questioning the motives of the 19 hijackers. But there isn't.

The reason the govt is covering up, based on evidence I uncovered, and not on bullshit speculation, is that during the SAME month that Atta arrived to attend his flight school, the OWNER of the flight school had his Lear jet confiscated by DEA agents with submachine guns, who found 43 pounds of heroin on board. That's not speculation. That's fact. And it is to OBSCURE that fact that Adnan Khashoggi's minions started spreading money around to scumbags and refugees from Benny Hinn revivals, who pretend to be looking for the truth.

I have laid out the evidence in black and white about the flight school owner's heroin bust. Yet who among you sorry-ass creeps has publicized it or attempted to learn more by actually investigating? Don't waste your time looking. The answer is NO-ONE.
Not realizing he had been beaten by the superior force of my, um, rapier wit, my interrogator next tried the snide approach:
"Is this really Daniel Hopsicker, about whom I read with interest in the book "Fleshing Out Skull and Bones" by Kris Millegan, or some snot-nosed 9 year old who has hijacked his computer? It looks like you didn't get invited back to the Conspiracy Con in 2006. I wonder why?"
Snot-nosed? Now I was steamed.

So before replying a second time, I did a quick search and discovered that my interrogator is clearly outside what the mainstream might call "ordinary consensual reality."

For example, according to his website, the most important threat facing the world today is that of "alien locusts" infesting our planet. As if this frightening news weren't enough, he wants also to alert us to this piece of breaking news:

"PASTOR JOHN STOCKER OF FORT COLLINS, COLORADO ENDORSES EARTHQUAKE RESURRECTION."

Earthquake resurrection is a new one on me, and I thought I had heard it all. So I wrote him back, alluding heavily, as you might expect, to his research into alien locusts. In his response he delivered the funniest line I've read in recent memory:
"I agree that 'alien locust attack' may sound funny to someone who hasn't researched the UFO and alien abduction phenomena with a biblical worldview as a foundation."
When I stopped laughing, I realized that he was right. In my cursory ruminations about alien abduction, I have never once taken the biblical worldview. So I might have mentioned this in my final retort:
"Dude, I knew I was gonna lose the alien locust community when I told you what an idiot you are. If you thought you were emailing someone who suffers fools gladly, think again. I'm a serious writer and researcher. You're a millennialist clown."

"You really should join the Shriners; at least then you'd be able to ride around in those little cars and wear a fez. Get psychiatric help. Try to resist the idea that you're needed on the front lines of the fight against the alien locusts. Say a prayer. Smell some flowers. And please, remember to take your meds."
Two days later, someone called "citizen spook" decided I was the CIA's answer to everything ailing our great Republic, which is no doubt just a coincidence.

Here's the seriously scary part: People opposing the Bush Administration's official story about 9/11 usually have anything but a "biblical foundation as a worldview." Right? In fact, that's what most of us find so creepy about Bush. But the 9/11 Truth Movement is stocked with true believers in everything from Jesus to Urantia.

Even the leading light of the movement, David Griffin, is a divinity professor, of all things, whose books have been touted endlessly in email from well-organized 9/11 truth spammers.

And yet they apparently hate Bush so much they think he's responsible for the attack.

Something here does not, um, parse…

Dr. Griffin, we have learned, recently gave an address entitled "9/11 and Demonic Consciousness."
"My thesis is that the attacks of 9/11 were products of demonic consciousness, with 'the demonic' understood as an emergent reality that is diametrically opposed to the creative power of the universe and strong enough to threaten its purposes."
People spouting off about "demonic consciousness" usually get sent to the nearest emergency room.

And then there's Brigham Young University physicist Steven Jones, prominent in Scholars for 9/11 Truth. He believes an incendiary substance, Thermite, was bolstered by sulfur to generate the exceptionally hot fires at the World Trade Center, causing the structural steel to fail and the buildings to collapse.

Sulfur has traditionally been associated with the demonic. To his credit, Prof. Jones refrains from reminding us of this fact.

Jones is, however, a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and has published a scientific paper called "Behold My Hands: Evidence for Christ's Visit in Ancient America." This paper details the archeological clues he has found supporting the belief that Jesus Christ visited Latin America after his resurrection, as chronicled in the Book of Mormon.

Anyone who can find Jesus in South America 2000 years ago is capable, clearly, of finding pretty much anything he wants to, anytime at all.

The bottom line is that this debate would be pretty funny if there weren't 3000 people dead.

Instead, the situation is Orwellian. Disinfo writ large. And it didn't happen by accident.

The Army's got a 1200-man psyops unit. I'll bet they aren't all tasked overseas.

-- Daniel Hopsicker

nomo wrote:Newton's law of physics suggests that all the accumulating mass in those towers should have slowed down??

And steel beams don't melt, yet there were pools of molten metal in the debris??

But your innuendo is duly noted, once again, Mr Manatee.

So everybody who disagrees with him is either a religious nut, or UFO nut, or funded by Khashoggi. ~snip~ Do you see what I mean?

nomo wrote:You don't believe you can be a cokehead and a religious fanatic? What about GW Bush? You don't believe thousands of Arabs hate us for a myriad of reasons? You don't believe the government would rather not look into those flight schools for fear we discover it has been importing dope by the planeload?

ALL that stuff seems remarkably common in the real world, and yet you think some Jesus freak from Utah is the ONLY scientist standing up against THEM, and the rest of us are on the CIA payroll.

What. Ever. Man. Hopsicker said it all.

I only just realized myself how important the Conservation of Momentum and the building's fall times are.

nomo wrote:

So everybody who disagrees with him is either a religious nut, or UFO nut, or funded by Khashoggi. ~snip~ Do you see what I mean?

Oh PLEASE!

YOU people are calling us all kinds of names and worse, and when someone like Hopsicker responds in kind, and hilariously funny at that, you get your knickers all in a twist?

You don't believe you can be a cokehead and a religious fanatic? What about GW Bush? You don't believe thousands of Arabs hate us for a myriad of reasons? You don't believe the government would rather not look into those flight schools for fear we discover it has been importing dope by the planeload?

ALL that stuff seems remarkably common in the real world, and yet you think some Jesus freak from Utah is the ONLY scientist standing up against THEM, and the rest of us are on the CIA payroll.

What. Ever. Man. Hopsicker said it all.

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:Many scientists and engineering types have reached the same conclusion as Dr. Steven Jones. And many are Christians.
Ya gonna call them all kooks?