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Who is 'they'?Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:..They broke our planet.
wintler2 wrote:Who is 'they'?
Have you taken responsibility for your poo so it doesn't get flushed into the sea? Ever eat wildcatch fish? Ever let your plastic waste blow away? I'm not sure megascale enviro problems can be slated home to any particular 'they', we've all either passively or actively contributed to many of them.
wintler2 wrote:Who is 'they'?Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:..They broke our planet.
Have you taken responsibility for your poo so it doesn't get flushed into the sea? Ever eat wildcatch fish? Ever let your plastic waste blow away? I'm not sure megascale enviro problems can be slated home to any particular 'they', we've all either passively or actively contributed to many of them.
wintler2 wrote:I'm not sure megascale enviro problems can be slated home to any particular 'they', we've all either passively or actively contributed to many of them.
barracuda wrote:wintler2 wrote:I'm not sure megascale enviro problems can be slated home to any particular 'they', we've all either passively or actively contributed to many of them.
Uh uh. I don't buy that one. That's a nice way to socialize the ills of the planet while allowing the worst offenders to get off easy with their money in hand.
Who is "they"? The multi-nationals and the corrupt government officials charged with the ultimate stewardship of huge tracts of resources that are funneled into wastefull processes for the financial benefit of a select few and to the ultimate detriment of the rest of us.
Who is "they"? They are Unocal, Exxon, the tobacco companies, AT&T, the logging industry, McDonalds, the fishing industry and the politicians who keep "them" in business through graft and mendacity while the rest of us know exactly what should be done and are rendered powerless to accomplish it through the machinations of power and money that drives their heartless system. Sorry - I don't count myself as among them.
Who is "they"? Their names are in the financial prospectus for each and every Fortune 500 company and can be readily found in the Forbes 400 as well. They are not hidden or difficult to locate. They are well protected by our elected representatives in Washington, and by the tinted glass on their fucking stretch limos.
Who is "they"? They are the same folks who are actively working every minute of the day to pump each and every last drop of oil out of the ground in order to make the gasoline and plastic bags which you and I have known most of our adult lives are causing the ecology to degrade catastrophically. I didn't do that, and to infer that I had something to do with it is insulting to me and my bank account.
Who is "they"? They are the self serving hypocritical motherfuckers who talk on TV and radios about "God" and "Family Values" and "gay marriage" and "American pride" and "homegrown energy sources" who hire hookers, cheat on their wives, fuck haitian child prostitutes and connive to get your last dime while they take their paychecks from the very companies without borders who are raping the land and sea to perdition. If you can't separate yourself from "them", look again and see who has profited by this global meltdown. It wasn't me. I've seen a hundred better ways to carry stuff around than a plastic bag, and don't gimme that convenience talk, either. None of this shit has been convenient. Not the cars, not the bags, not the crappy tuna, not the fast food, not the taxes or the wars that radiated entire middle east countries for the transnational corporations and their ennabling political stooges. They are the "they".
professorpan wrote:Sorry, barracuda, but I strongly disagree. wintler made a very important point.
WE are THEY.
barracuda wrote:wintler2 wrote:I'm not sure megascale enviro problems can be slated home to any particular 'they', we've all either passively or actively contributed to many of them.
Uh uh. I don't buy that one. That's a nice way to socialize the ills of the planet while allowing the worst offenders to get off easy with their money in hand.
Who is "they"? The multi-nationals and the corrupt government officials charged with the ultimate stewardship of huge tracts of resources that are funneled into wastefull processes for the financial benefit of a select few and to the ultimate detriment of the rest of us.
Who is "they"? They are Unocal, Exxon, the tobacco companies, AT&T, the logging industry, McDonalds, the fishing industry and the politicians who keep "them" in business through graft and mendacity while the rest of us know exactly what should be done and are rendered powerless to accomplish it through the machinations of power and money that drives their heartless system. Sorry - I don't count myself as among them.
Who is "they"? Their names are in the financial prospectus for each and every Fortune 500 company and can be readily found in the Forbes 400 as well. They are not hidden or difficult to locate. They are well protected by our elected representatives in Washington, and by the tinted glass on their fucking stretch limos.
Who is "they"? They are the same folks who are actively working every minute of the day to pump each and every last drop of oil out of the ground in order to make the gasoline and plastic bags which you and I have known most of our adult lives are causing the ecology to degrade catastrophically. I didn't do that, and to infer that I had something to do with it is insulting to me and my bank account.
Who is "they"? They are the self serving hypocritical motherfuckers who talk on TV and radios about "God" and "Family Values" and "gay marriage" and "American pride" and "homegrown energy sources" who hire hookers, cheat on their wives, fuck haitian child prostitutes and connive to get your last dime while they take their paychecks from the very companies without borders who are raping the land and sea to perdition. If you can't separate yourself from "them", look again and see who has profited by this global meltdown. It wasn't me. I've seen a hundred better ways to carry stuff around than a plastic bag, and don't gimme that convenience talk, either. None of this shit has been convenient. Not the cars, not the bags, not the crappy tuna, not the fast food, not the taxes or the wars that radiated entire middle east countries for the transnational corporations and their ennabling political stooges. They are the "they".
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