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Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat May 16, 2009 8:38 pm

Sunny told a very strange story on this board once, about being upset one day as an adolescent, going to her room and sitting there crying. Eventually she caught a glimpse of herself reflected in some concave surface (a metal vase?), and she stopped weeping and wailing, and just sat there gazing at her reflected self. But the reflection carried on weeping and wailing long after she had stopped.

(Sunny told this much better, but I can't find the original post.)
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Postby genericsyncretic » Sat May 16, 2009 10:30 pm

I remember reading Sunny's story a while back. It was beautiful, on top of chilling.

I saw some weird things as a child. To the point where my mother was mildly frightened of me at a very young age. She's since chalked it up to the house we lived in being haunted. She's a little more new age-y than my tastes, but I don't think she was entirely off the mark either. I do know that there were "beings" of some kind around me, and that I was the only one seeing them. Not in the imaginary friend way either, more like imaginary antagonist if anything. She still gets a lil freaked out thinking about what I would complain about being in my room as a tyke. And poor me, I had a metal bar strapped between my feet that made running from any of it all but impossible.

Really though, I feel bad for telling her about it. It had to be scarier to someone who knew that there shouldn't have been anyone there.
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Postby AlicetheKurious » Sun May 17, 2009 9:25 am

One thing I associate with childhood, even though I had an otherwise pretty good one, is fear. Even long before I ever saw a horror film, when I was 3 or 4 years old, I remember waking up at night in my bed and seeing dark shadows walking around my room and whispering. (And no, there was nobody there). Later, when I was a bit older, a thrown article of clothing might turn into a witch and start crawling towards me on my bed. I was positive there was a monster under my bed, and another one in the closet. And so on, and so on. As I got older, these fears simply went away, including my crippling fear of the dark. "Fear' is too mild a word, it was really a kind of operatic terror that I've never experienced since. I only remember it dimly now, as though somebody else had experienced it.

My own children have had an even more sheltered childhood than I had; I was determined they'd never experience the kind of terrors I did. To my amazement, even when they were very young, their capacity for fear was incredible. They didn't only fear the dark, or things that go bump in the dark, but they feared that I or their father would die. Once I had to get rid of a year-old Griffon dog we'd adopted, because she peed and poo'd all over the house, plus she was very high-strung and bit everybody but me. The kids, who were then toddlers, became unusually subdued and grave; their eyes, like saucers, followed me everywhere. I thought they missed the dog, but it turned out they thought they were next!

A million times, I've asked myself over the years: if children who are growing up in a loving, safe, nurturing environment where they have never experienced violence or even genuine anger can feel so much terror -- my God, what does that mean for children growing up in war zones, or subjected to abuse, or chronic insecurity?

It doesn't bear thinking about. :shock:
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Postby monster » Mon May 18, 2009 10:03 pm

"I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from 1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline."
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Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Tue May 19, 2009 12:17 am

MacCruiskeen wrote:
Hugh Manatee Wins wrote: ''''''''''


Where to start with all this? Where to end?
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Do yourself a favour, Hugh''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

Jeff's rules disallow this discussion (figure that one out) so I will pm corrections to you.

However, I will point out that it seems that RI fails to examine sources or op articles very closely for agendas and context and instead just riffs subjectively.

That's NOT what I do, quite the opposite, despite the gross misperceptions I endure.
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Postby Nordic » Tue May 19, 2009 1:51 am

At the time my son was conceived, I was working every day in an old house with a lot of history. A lot of big trees around it. I would hear someone call my name. Just my first name, in a very friendly fashion. There would be nobody there.

That is when my son was conceived.

I've never heard voices ever in my life, or since.

When my wife was pregnant with him, one night I was playing checkers with my stepdaughter, and the checkers started moving around on the board by themselves. One at a time. It was as if there were someone there trying to play with us. It was the most astounding thing I've ever seen. It happened three times, and I could not make the action repeat in any way.

I've lived in two haunted houses, and have a pretty strong ability to feel things like, well, what you might call ghosts, or spirits, or whatever. The house we were in while this was going on was in fact haunted, but this was something different, it seemed.

The actual ghost in the house was angry and would throw things around, but while my son was in my wife's belly, the one I would feel was from her, and it was friendly and playful and loving.

After my son was born, the ghost in the house would mess with his stuff. We hung up a bunch of his scribblings on the wall, just with scotch tape, and one day they all fell down at once, as if ripped from the wall.

Several times things would simply fly out of closets.

I'm digressing. The point is that it sure seemed like my son's spirit found me in that old house where I was working, went home with me, and became my son. It seemed he was in the trees, I would feel something and heard the voice several times while standing near these big trees.
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Postby ultramegagenius » Tue May 19, 2009 11:42 am

i get terrifying shivers reading some of these posts, and then i'm thankful to HMW for re-grounding me in the secular social trends of mere man's familiar history. then i get all peeved at HMW's backwards definition of agendas as essentialist materialist pap in time to find Nordic's uplifting trans-dimensional drama. Perfect!
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