Cui/Qui Bono: First in a series.

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Postby brainpanhandler » Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:03 am

I knew I had used that phrase at least once and I knew I had spelled it correctly. How come I don't get a gold star?


I wrote:Cui bono if we continue to believe those choices are McCain or Obama


http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewt ... hlight=cui
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Postby compared2what? » Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:27 am

brainpanhandler wrote:I knew I had used that phrase at least once and I knew I had spelled it correctly. How come I don't get a gold star?


I wrote:Cui bono if we continue to believe those choices are McCain or Obama


http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewt ... hlight=cui


A number of people come up on a search of "Cui bono?" Including some cross-overs from those who come up on a search for "Qui bono?"** I haven't even finished dealing with the 14 posts I picked yet.

However, you are a gold star, in my eyes.

**On edit: I did it five times. Got 46 results. Two of which were "cui." Don't ask me why. I do not know. I'm using other search engines, too.
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Postby brainpanhandler » Sun Sep 27, 2009 8:22 am

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Postby chiggerbit » Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:11 pm

Why are you calling Zap "professorpan's buddy"? Because it there's any basis in fact or reason sufficient to conclude that he is -- or for that matter even to suspect that he is -- I'm totally unaware of it.


I think that dates to a point in the past when (I think) professorpan posted the synchronicity of his friend's teapot story and had a hissyfit when someone, maybe Hugh, maybe not Hugh, cast what pp saw as aspersions on the story, thus "scaring off" pp's friend. I don't think the friend had a handle back then, but I could be wrong--it seems like a long time ago, definitely before your time, assuming my memory serves me right.

Fortunately, zap seems to have recovered from his "fright" enough to have started posting. But yes, my impression was that zap and pp were friends.

:wave: Welcome aboard, Zap! I'm glad pp was wrong.
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Postby freemason9 » Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:41 pm

This is what happens when somebody drunk-posts on RI.
The real issue is that there is extremely low likelihood that the speculations of the untrained, on a topic almost pathologically riddled by dynamic considerations and feedback effects, will offer anything new.
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Postby Zap » Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:57 pm

chiggerbit wrote:I think that dates to a point in the past when (I think) professorpan posted the synchronicity of his friend's teapot story and had a hissyfit when someone, maybe Hugh, maybe not Hugh, cast what pp saw as aspersions on the story, thus "scaring off" pp's friend.


heh, do a search for "zap" on the board to see where "HMW" posted about me if you want, or at my post history if you want.

I don't know PP. He started a thread about my teapot synchronicity story, not sure how he saw it but it was getting around for awhile there. I had been through this site a bit before, but never posted, I noticed I was getting traffic from here, came to check it out, rest is in the post archives.

I was not "scared off," but I thought HMW was some kind of idiot or troll, and when I saw a chorus of people agreeing with him I thought you were all nuts ... looking back, I tend to think most of HMW's supporters are sock puppets or shit stirrers and comedians, but at the time I thought it was a reflection of the general active membership of the board. And I wasn't looking to get into some kind of combative trollfest arguing about shit that really doesn't lend itself to such efforts, for me.
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Postby chiggerbit » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:37 am

I don't know PP. He started a thread about my teapot synchronicity story, not sure how he saw it but it was getting around for awhile there. I had been through this site a bit before, but never posted, I noticed I was getting traffic from here, came to check it out, rest is in the post archives.


Sorry, I must have, er, misrememberd it, or assumed that pp actually knew the person whose story he posted. Am I ...misremembering.. that pp tore into Hugh on your behalf?
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Postby 8bitagent » Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:31 am

compared2what? wrote:And filling out the field, with two uses (plus one uncounted quoted use by slow_dazzle)

8bitagent

8bitagent wrote:Is there really a difference between the minstrel-mammy-sambo era
of "collectibles", art, cartoons, and Americana...

And the 50 Cent Bling Blang Ghetto Gangsta culture?

The only difference is that with the minstrel stuff, it was by whites for whites denegrating blacks to a subhuman level.

With the Bling Blang ignorant culture(I live in California, and I'd wager it has a literal stranglehold on a wide majority young black men)

it's white corporations pushing this stuff for black folks to buy, to self denegrate themselves into 21st century minstrel show charactitures(as Spike Lee has said)

Oh sure, Jay Z and P Diddy might own their own company, but they are usually not the parent company.

So qui bono? Who benefits from thug culture strangulating and infesting such a wide swath of the young black identity?

The SAME people who benefit from feeding many Latinos with ATZLAN reconquista propaganda yet feeding xenophobic near or full on racist fears on the right to whites.

It's about divide and conquer.


8bitagent wrote:This is why noone is able to grasp the reality of 9/11, Islamic terrorism, backroom nuclear secret sales, etc. They think in terms of "state sponsor/state qui bono"


Also with two uses,

slimmouse:

slimmouse wrote: Quote:Right again, Pan. The mysterious ritual seems to consist of smashing all evidence of ancient civilisation so they can make up more bs and so forth.

Thats me in the spotlight, losing my religion....

Small wonder huh ?

Try to make us stop making sense of this mortal coil.

No real surprise there, in a world based on bullshit news, and bullshit values.

Qui Bono ?

Answers on a dollar bill.


slimmouse wrote:Let us begin .

firstly the descendants of Shem, from which we derive the term "Anti-semitic" ;

[SNIP]

The fact that they had never previously been near the said "promised land" ever since they had a hole in their asses is neither here nor there in the history books.

I dont need to remind one of the parallels with native Americans , or the Aborigines, or the Native Africans, or blablabla, prior to the KKK bigots arriving on their shores.

Same modus operandi basically.

Dont know about you DE, but Im fucking sick of it.

"Qui Bono" I wonder ?


And, as we already know, with two uses:

Shortthickdickleford

Whom I already quoted, in the OP.


Aw fuck. I can't believe I typed that.

I actually remember being corrected in 2005 for typing "Qui Bono" on another forum rather than "Cui Bono"

I think an EVEN BETTER thread would be...

What are some seriously overused conspiracy discussion phrases?

cui bono
"hegelian dialectic"
revelation of the method
"malthusian"
false flag
new world order


and of course, "meme":)
"Do you know who I am? I am the arm, and I sound like this..."-man from another place, twin peaks fire walk with me
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Postby §ê¢rꆧ » Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:38 am

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Thanks for explaining the 'oui' thing.

So... when is installment number two coming?
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Postby freemason9 » Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:42 am

Zap wrote:
chiggerbit wrote:I think that dates to a point in the past when (I think) professorpan posted the synchronicity of his friend's teapot story and had a hissyfit when someone, maybe Hugh, maybe not Hugh, cast what pp saw as aspersions on the story, thus "scaring off" pp's friend.


heh, do a search for "zap" on the board to see where "HMW" posted about me if you want, or at my post history if you want.

I don't know PP. He started a thread about my teapot synchronicity story, not sure how he saw it but it was getting around for awhile there. I had been through this site a bit before, but never posted, I noticed I was getting traffic from here, came to check it out, rest is in the post archives.

I was not "scared off," but I thought HMW was some kind of idiot or troll, and when I saw a chorus of people agreeing with him I thought you were all nuts ... looking back, I tend to think most of HMW's supporters are sock puppets or shit stirrers and comedians, but at the time I thought it was a reflection of the general active membership of the board. And I wasn't looking to get into some kind of combative trollfest arguing about shit that really doesn't lend itself to such efforts, for me.


Not nuts--drunk, I think.
The real issue is that there is extremely low likelihood that the speculations of the untrained, on a topic almost pathologically riddled by dynamic considerations and feedback effects, will offer anything new.
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Postby stefano » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:07 pm

rusty shackleford wrote:So if TBL is a psyop like you suggest, it begs the question "Qui bono?"

That misuse of 'begs the question' offends me more.
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Postby Zap » Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:00 pm

chiggerbit wrote:Am I ...misremembering.. that pp tore into Hugh on your behalf?


From what I recall, he started out tearing into him for being a narrow-minded idiot (prior to my coming to the board), and then once I signed up and started posting and was blasted by HMW's special brand of nonsensical scorn, he tore into him for that as well. They were in the midst of a larger battle at the time, I believe.

To try to stay somewhat on topic - add me to the camp offended by the constant abuse of "begs the question" - and of course to those who recognize that there are are a lot of sock puppets and manipulative trolls on this board. I have an idea of who many are, and what kinds of tactics they employ, but not going to sweat figuring it out with any certainty - or try to make a case to convince others.

Some of them seem to enjoy using the exact troll/disinfo tactics that they inform us about, which is kind of fun.

http://www.teamtechnology.co.uk/troll-tactics.html
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Postby stefano » Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:28 pm

Zap wrote:add me [...] to those who recognize that there are are a lot of sock puppets and manipulative trolls on this board.

Whenever this comes up I feel a bit slow, or not-internet-savvy, because I don't see it at all. Of course it doesn't help that the people crying 'sockpuppet' are infuriatingly vague about the whole thing. Fingers crossed that this thread will result in more drama than vigilant's half-arsed "Free is American Dream", which I fell for, to my embarrassment. I was reading about the organised trolling of Patrick Byrne on Yahoo Finance at the time and got caught up in the excitement. I do love a bit of intrigue.
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Postby JackRiddler » Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:29 pm

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While waiting for more, here's a kick.
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