A surfeit of Doomsday Bugs

by **Sokolova** » Sun Aug 28, 2005 1:17 pm

Since 911 we’ve had a steady run of doomsday-bug scenarios offered up by the media haven't we? We’ve had the smallpox scare(remember that?), the anthrax scare, the SARS scare, and now the Bird Flu scare. They all have certain things in common too. They are all persistently plugged in the media, while simultaneously, the same media is telling us the government wants to keep the whole thing quiet and wants to avoid ‘panic’. This sounds the first false note to me. In my experience when the government wants something to be kept quiet – it is. It doesn’t get headlines in the mainstream press, it doesn’t get extensive coverage on tv. Another other thing that they all (at least to date) have in common is that the ‘threat’ seems to suddenly and almost magically vanish after a certain period of time, never to appear again in the public consciousness. What happened to the threat of terrorists using smallpox to kill us all? Or anthrax? What happened to SARS? The third thing that many of them seem to have in common (maybe all of them for I know, but I’m being cautious) is that they are either exceedingly exaggerated or seem bogus in some way, and tend to depend for the validation on irrational thinking or extreme projections of highly improbable odds. The ‘smallpox’ scare for example. Any MD who had bothered to stop and think, and certainly any virologist, could have told the policy-makers and journalists who were marketing the panic, that either strain of smallpox (there are two, one serious, one not) is one of the lousiest candidates for germ-warfare imaginable. It has a very low sustainability outside a host – meaning it would die fairly quickly if just floating about in the atmosphere. To get infected you’d actually need to be coughed on by an infected person, which makes mass-infection a pretty cumbersome process, and we might notice a lot of Arab-types going about coughing on people. The other problem with it as a warfare agent is it becomes infectious person-to-person only after the sores have developed when the carrier is extremely noticeable and easy to identify, and also feeling pretty lousy, so probably not up to a lot of strolling about and coughing on people. There are, in short, numerous viruses that would be far better suited to germ-warfare than smallpox. SARS again offered a similar scenario of exaggeration. It was presented as a potential world wide killer, but based on what? Around 8000 suspected cases and around 650 deaths. And the keyword there is ‘suspected’ It’s actually not too easy to know what particular virus is causing a disease. Doctors are human, they are susceptible to panic and to lazy assumption-making. If they know (or have been told) SARS is a danger then any case of viral pneumonia coming into the ER can become SARS overnight. The highest estimated mortality rate of around 9% is therefore largely a guess, as I don’t believe the virus will have been isolated in each of these cases. The lower mortality rate estimate of around 2% is not much higher than a bad flu season. To really understand the impact of SARS would take a lot more distance in time and a lot more research than has presently been done. It’s possible there’s something serious, but equally possible there isn’t. The story as sold by the media is extreme, simplistic an desperately alarmist. And now we have ‘Bird Flu’; the Independent today carries a huge double-page spread on the disease, claiming it as the potential killer of ‘2 million’ people in Britain, and that mortuaries are 'secretly' (the kind of secretly that makes a center-page of a national paper) being asked to make plans for an extra 750,000 deaths. But wait a minute. To date this flu has infected just over a hundred people in Asia. Okay around half of them have died, and it is not a disease we would wish to get – but at the moment it is not even transmittable from human to human - you have to catch it from a bird. The ‘potential’ for 2 million deaths in the UK is based on the virus mutating into a state that can be transmitted person-to-person. This may happen of course – and if it does then there'd be some basis for all the prophesies of coming doom. Currently there isn't much. So, what is going on? I can’t help noticing both SARS and bird flu seem to have originated in China. No idea what that means but still seems worth observing. All that talk of the government wanting to ‘calm things down’, while simultaneously various spokes-people for various public organizations are making extreme claims for the coming death-rate suggest to me this is to some extent orchestrated. The idea that mortuaries are really being prompted to prepare for extra deaths on the basis of a possible future mutation of a virus that has still not even migrated beyond Asia seems unlikely to me. That claim sounds like a deliberate plant to manipulate public understanding. So, are we being slowly psyched into accepting the new pandemic and the deaths of millions? Has each successive false alarm (smallpox, anthrax, SARS) been a gradual softening up for the coming big one? Or is it simpler than that? Are the predictions of disaster and the climate of suppressed hysteria the end product in themselves? Are we just being scared into submission? Ellie Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=sokolova>Sokolova</A> at: 8/28/05 1:06 pm

by **Dreams End** » Sun Aug 28, 2005 1:22 pm

I think you are onto something...and I think it goes beyond diseases. I think that, in various ways, we are being prepared for, or at least accustomed to the idea, that there's a mass "die-off" gonna happen and that there's nothing we can do about it. In fact, some sectors would have us believe that this is in fact a good thing, as there are too many humans on the planet anyway. I think this is one of the themes behind the 'big picture' that explains some of the mysterious goings on behind the scenes and I want to write a longer post about that and offer a place for others to speculate about what the big idea is that propels all these bizarre conspiracies.

by **ZeroHaven** » Sun Aug 28, 2005 1:47 pm

the same media is telling us the government wants to keep the whole thing quiet and wants to avoid ‘panic’. You're right with your analysis on this. I'm adding more. It's a Pavlov-style training. Psst, there's a threat over there. It's our little secret. Lets just keep this between us, no need to talk about it with your neighbors. Your loving government is looking out for you, so relax and don't worry. Trust the government. They will keep you safe. several different types of thinkers get affected at once. The government haters trust the media for exposing a potentially threatening secret. Government likers feel they're being cared about - because public panic is bad. Others are simply getting used to the pattern. Big threat, nothing happens, big threat, no worries, big threat, not my concern. Brush your brain with novocaine. Lather, rinse, repeat. <img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a239/ZeroHaven/tinhat.gif"/>

by **RollickHooper** » Sun Aug 28, 2005 2:28 pm

I'd like to see a thread that explores the origins, motivations, and the effects of calling down the wrath of the gods upon ourselves. I have my opinions-- I'm reading a book called "Coming Home to the Pleistocene" by Paul Shepard, which suggests that we humans are still very much hardwired with a hunter/gatherer operating system, which we ignore at our peril. Shepard also suggests that it wasn't until we moved into "sedentist" agrarian culture that we started thinking we could control our environment, and it wasn't until then that we thought maybe we could affect positive outcomes by means of offerings and blood sacrifice . . . Are we on this board calling for "something big" to happen, by talking about it all the time?

by **tal** » Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:39 pm

THE SARS PSYOPS To understand the rules of the (unholy) game 1) Create fear 2) Repeat the same story over and over again 3) Use the word "experts" over and over again 4) Begin by saying that the cause is unknown and promote it as a known cause Sales of key antiviral drug soar as awareness of flu pandemic potential rises Last year was a bad one for sales of the flu vaccine. BigPharma's getting a head start this year. Remember how sales (and hoarding) of Cipro soared during the anthrax scare? Bayer was laughing all the way to the bank

by **ZeroHaven** » Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:25 pm

thanks tal, i forgot the last angle on it.. The downright dangerous nature of the vaccines that everyone rushes to take to 'protect' themselves. If you're paranoid, it's so obvious! Strange new disease announced. Thousands get vaccinated. Wait a while. Hundreds develop weird reaction symptoms. Strange new disease... BLather, rinse, repeat. <img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a239/ZeroHaven/tinhat.gif"/>

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