by israelirealities » Sun Sep 18, 2005 2:49 am
Posting what I wrote earlier, to respond to your questions and "list of names" (this is going to be my last response to that thread about :"what my opinions are"...quiz. We did the three (Jared, Chamish and Lerner...).<br><br>Rabbi Lerner<br><br>It took me a while to remember what I now think about him. As a born and raised red neck ISraeli, I was fascinated by him when I first read his stuff, TIkkun Magazine and his book about sort of alternative and progressive version to Judaism. I still like Tikkun magazine, but I lost my interest in him and this entire "jewish renewal" stuff. ITs OK, in terms of revising Jewish religious outdated precepts and concepts but politically he is working with the ISraeli establishment on the core security, ZIonist issues.<br>I was in the Bay Area during the war now a couple of years ago, and there were allegations against him by the anti war movement that he is picking and choosing the members of the coalition (on charges of being too antisemitic or communists) instead of focusing on the protest itself. I thought this was typical.<br>Now, when I am back here, seeing all the morons in ISrael, and the Rabbis from hell (ultra orthodox misogenist voodoo guys) I am again feeling more compassion to anyone who is offering another vision, no matter what they do in other matters. He is not the man to bring major changes in US-Israel policy. I think these guys are also afraid of the AIPAC sharks who set the tone. But as I said earlier, I think we are going to see some changes there, in this community of Jewish liberals (moderately liberal) in their stance towards Israel. Once they realize that being too accomodating will not save them from the mess, especially from critique in the USA< they will adopt a more "not in my name" attitude to Israel, and perhaps throw some shit on the fan, to show they are not to be identified with ISrael too much.<br>this depends on how much shit is going to fly on the Jewish community as a whole, following the scams that errupt monthly.<br>So far I hold them as accomplices (by silence and more) with the mainstream guys who really messed up with the Iraq war and other warmongering. I am talking about the AIPAC millionnaires and others who pour money on Israel, corrupt our political system and treat Israel as a chess board where they play war games to bolster their Jewish dreams and visions (while at the same time living a comfortable life, away from the bloody reality we endure here). these people hold fortunes that are equal to our state budget, and so naturally they buy the whole system and play against each other those "virtual"war games. the ISraelis, I have to say, don't fight it off. But who can resist billions of dollars from heaven ? you can always rationalize it. The liberal Jews, like Lerner, don't have the courage, i think, to face up to these guys in their own field (the USA), and so they pay lip service by a feeble critique of ISrael's policies in the territories. well, this is NOT where decisions are made, and they know it. I do remind you, because you guys seem to forget that, Israel has 5-6 million citizens and the land is the size of New Jersy (half the size of Vancouver Island). I tend to think that the game is not decided here, but behind the scenes. Sharon, after getting the money/orders from some millionnaires abroad, reads the scripts and brags on how influential Israel is in congress. This is a division of labor, but who is the puppet ?<br>Since the ISraelis basically don't like it, they might become vicious in the future, and implicate those very same donors and trap them. After all, Sharon goes back home after he fundraises and talks to Bush. But these guys are there, and are at the mercy of US government, who might have an interest to stop this cyclic business deal and loot the rich Jews. This has happened before. And ISrael can play on the fears .<br>Again, to ward off the usual comments about how silly it is to downplay israel's power and control over events, I am only talking from personal experience. Money is the key factor, and it is outside of Israel, coming in. Leadership here is cooperating with the "sale" and everyone tries to be "ontop" namely, to be the one getting the money and sending others to be the victims. So you have a fairly identifiable elite of extremely rich ISraelis, who get the "Commission" from those wealthy Jews, but the multitudes are sold out, to be the mercenaries, the guinea pigs and the pawns in the game plan. <br>Not a pretty sight. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
