When and how did you 'wake up' to the New World Order?

[thumper]

you go first <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :p --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=":p"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

[monkeymcgee]

Waco did it for me. I had been reading about the NWO before then, but that was a definite confirmation of it for me. <p></p><i></i>

[prunesquallori]

Originally supporting the war, I began to get suspicious when the WMDs never turned up, and the Downing Street Memo minutes eliminated all doubt: the administration purposefully lied to the American public, and nobody seemed to care.<br><br>I feel very strongly that the American liberal/conservative divide is a complete distraction from the main issue, which is the continuing (and accelerating) consolidation of power into a few hands.<br><br>I've left the Republican party forever. They have abandoned their principles. NOLA shows how much they care about 2nd amendment and property rights, what else is left to their platform?! The only thing they value is absolute loyalty to the party, which reminds me of nothing so much as Mussolini's apologists. I am seriously afraid that this is fascism come to America. <p></p><i></i>

[dbeach]

was scared very scared on 11/22/63 sensed something was wrong..<br><br>WE would sometimes argue that JFK was killed by Nixon or LBJ or commies..that was the 60s.<br><br>I am former Clark supporter..BUT now I refuse to support any of the current pols .. cept maybe Karl B. Schwarz who BTW is aware of NWO.<br><br>The conspiracy arguements raged on Clark forum last yr and some had been aware of NWO and mentioned it briefly <br>..then I began my own journey and found out the bitter facts..<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[nomo]

December 2000. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :| --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/indifferent.gif ALT=":|"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

[Qutb]

I still don't know what the "NWO" is supposed to be, as it seems to mean different things to different people. To me, NWO smacks of the UN socialist/Illuminati conspiracy of John Birch Society paranoia. Which I don't see many signs of at the present time. Friggin' Pat Robertson wrote a book called The New World Order, about these things. Many spent the Clinton years in anticipation of blue-helmet UN troops invading America on behalf of the NWO...<br><br>Poppy, of course, used the term, but he was referring to a post-Cold War world in which the US would be the enforcer of international law globally, at least that's the mainstream interpretation. There may have been a coded meaning, but I don't know about that. Then there's the Novum Ordo Seclorum of the US seal, but it's a leap to connect that to Poppy's NWO speech.<br><br>So I guess I haven't woken up to the NWO yet. <br><br>As for realizing something was wrong with the world, which went deeper than what I had expected, it was the discovery of 9/11 skepticism on the Internet. I knew Iraq was a pack of lies before Powell's UN speech, but I didn't suspect 9/11. I knew there were people who did, but I thought they were lunatics <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:black;font-family:century gothic;font-size:x-small;"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><br><br></p><i></i>

[dbeach]

'I knew there were people who did, but I thought they were lunatics '<br><br>I remember speaking with an African American Vet that wk who said cheny did 9/11, hid the money in Switzerland and 5 Mossad agents wee dancing in NJ..that was on 9/14 . <br><br>To me the NWO is the uber rich against the commoners and they got the weapons and power to make one serious attempt for the whole planet...<br><br>There can be NO COMPROMISE with these arch criminals disguised as the world leaders... <p></p><i></i>

[NoNostalgia]

I don't know why I want to post in this thread as my first post. I guess to tell my story, what little there is to it. <br><br>I didn't "wake up" to the NWO so much as I gradually became informed. For example, in the late 90s some friends introduced me to Chomsky and the Nation magazine. So I started to become conscious of how rotten and duplicitous US foreign policy was. The 2000 election kind of sealed the deal, as far as how rotten US domestic policy had become. <br><br>On 9/11, I did not immediately see the writing on the wall. It was probably over the next six months, as the war drums began pounding and the stonewalling of investigations (along with much contradictory information coming to light) that I began to develop suspicions on my own, which I soon confirmed as 9/11 skeptics began coming out of the woodwork. I won't say I came to the conclusion all on my own, but I did start to realize something wasn't quite right. <br><br>Over the last several years many other puzzle pieces have been coming together for me, and I must say, I am pretty appalled at just how bad things may well be. For example, until I discovered Rigorous intuition, I never ever even would have thought of such a thing as ritual sexual abuse as an adjunct to state power. Who would? <br><br>So here I am. My first post as a registered member. Hello fellow tin foil hatters! <p></p><i></i>

[DrDebugDU]

It's a long time since I've welcomed somebody, so I guess you are the lucky one <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>As far as the NWO goes, I don't know it's been gradual since 9/11 as well. <p></p><i></i>

[Qutb]

"Hello fellow tin foil hatters!"<br><br>Wear it proud, brother! <br><br>I had never even suspected ritual abuse existed until I discovered RI. I though it had been "debunked". <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :\ --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>I'm appalled at how bad things could be too, and I was already appalled at how bad things are even on the surface, before I started looking beneath. <p><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:black;font-family:century gothic;font-size:x-small;"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><br><br></p><i></i>

[prunesquallori]

I thought RA had been debunked, too, back in the 80s. But Jeff has posted numerous examples that paint a very different picture; I do not know how prevalent it is in actuality, but it seems incontravertible that some people in churches and daycares are indeed interested in the occult and involve children in these activities.<br><br>Also: I never thought about chemtrails before Jeff mentioned them. Now that I look for them... HOLY CRAP! They're all over the sky, in a grid pattern! They drift MUCH more slowly than the surrounding clouds! <br><br>Whatever their function (I have heard that such things have been used to "study weather patterns") it is much less certain that there is nothing up there but contrails. <p></p><i></i>

[Rigorous Intuition]

Like Qutb I'm wary of using the term NWO because of the baggage associated with it. Same with Illuminati. I find they've been shorthand for too long for foolish and ugly-minded people to be used without a lot of explanation.<br><br>What I understand by NWO didn't begin to come into focus until I discovered the Franklin story. If that was true, everything changed. Much that initially seemed absurd - <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>what could the Freemasons have to do with anything?</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> - made sense the more occult aspects I saw to the cryptocracy, including purported contact with non-human intelligences.<br><br>It sure gets weird out here. Glad to have some company. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=rigorousintuition>Rigorous Intuition</A> at: 9/23/05 5:55 pm<br></i>

[jenz]

ra -how prevalent? hard to assess because the blackout is v. effective, and there is some disagreement about what constitutes r.a. and what should be put under another heading. but certainly much much more prevalent than anyone would know from 'cases' which very occasionally make court, or are publicised. I know personally of many cases, and of the types of orgainisations which serve of cover, of which the day care centre scenario is but one. In 3 cases which I know of personally there are definite links with wider political elements. as I have only been concerned with this for 6 years or so, and am not a professional in the therapy or social work field, and know of many such people who have knowledge of other cases which I do not, my conclusion is that it is an operating tool of the criminal political agenda, thriving and functioning well. (not an original thought I know) additionally, the political dimension of the dutroux case is evident, and after becoming involved in or interested in these things, the little hiccups in the reporting of cases sing out. just as the 9/11 story looked flaky on day 2 or 3, forget which, when our papers reported a mobile phone call proving the link with Al Q had been conveniently found. I'm not good at long posts - syntax disintegrates when I try to spontaneously get down many crossing strands of thought and evidence, so will leave this there. <p></p><i></i>

[Jimb0]

I was never asleep, always knew something was wrong, as far back as I can remember. <p></p><i></i>

[israelirealities]

Since I was used as a pawn in one of those "bizzare" scams, I had little incentive to see the whole picture. It took me about a decade to figure out the ISraeli structure and where I was trapped, and then surprisingly for me, I discovered the global context, through reading and filling in the connections and pieces.<br>Now, the only thing I still didn't explore is the alien stuff, I think I'll wait with this one a bit...:-)<br>9=11 only made me realize that there's a lot more going on, and faster. <br>After being immersed and almost going crazy with Illuminati and mind control stuff, I decided to confine myself to what I actually know directly, and deal with it, before I dive into larger schemes and other dimensions. <br>NWO for me is the latest version of the oldest political pattern, namely, Pharaoh, Roman emperors and what not, trying their best to gain full control of all humans, all Gods and powers, and render themselves rulers of the world and beyond. They also dealt with voodoo, scams, conspiracies and what not. Eventually they wanted to make all the others slaves and suck the life out of them, including their own people. <br>As far as the JEws, my people, are concerned, I find that many times they would be the precursor of the next big something. It is almost an energetic attraction to "black holes" and bad stuff. Sometimes the devil takes them as aids, sometimes he'd kill'em all, and some times they flee in time...<br>but, for sure, where's there's trouble, my people are there...playing all the roles..<br>Now we're just seeing it again. <p></p><i></i>