by israelirealities » Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:31 am
<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>have zionists infiltrated the highest levels of American government, using blackmail, kickbacks and other means to pull the strings behind the scenes of American decision-making? Or is it the other way around, with the Israeli 'thugs' traditionally acting as a cat's paw, doing the dirty work for America's elites, in exchange for sitting on America's lap in the seat of power?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>I am not sure the answer is clear cut or very interesting for the end result. We obviously don't like the situation, and we can trace disturbing cooperations. I do not underestimate the achivements of the "thugs" here, but I learnt something about the world, and usualy there are no miracles and power is where power is, namely, with bigger, wealthier, more sophisticated societies. THe Israeli thugs are certainly vicious killer dogs. Just a point to contemplate - while you see a lot of joint interests and cooperations, there is also the solid belief that Israel knocked the twin towers, and that iSrael is spying in the USA and the ISrael compromises US interests. You'd have to be consistent with your daily paranoia. My take on it - there is a strategic alliance for the time being between very problematic power people in your country (the Bushmen) and the Israeli thugs. Both these groups are very bad for their own countries and for the world, but their narrative is "patriotism". THey use a lot of similar tactics in holding on to power, but eventually, as the story goes usually, they will fight and then of course its easy to see who can just step on the other and turn it into a little stain of shit on the world's map. And I think the ISraelis tend to forget it, and sometimes people like you as well. The Zionists of the USA (the JEws who pimp Israel) are AMERICANS. Sorry to be blunt, but as Jewish as they may be, they are AMERICAN citizens, who have no plans to immigrate to ISrael, and so they are YOUR problem. WE can differ on analyzing their roles or motivations - i suspect most of them are making a nice little fortune from this situation, very cynically using their israeli cousins. You can argue that they hold a double loyalty, I really don't know, but as long as they are AMericans, you cannot just "throw them in" with the thugs here to make the picture larger than it really is. <br>I suspect that at some point, the BushAron alliance will turn against those Jews, for the same reasons they made them "big" before. ISrael will be happy to forcibly absorb them, and Bush can deflect the public rage from his own plans and scapegoat the Jews. Everyone will be happy, or will they ?<br>I would hate to see this happen, and so I am trying to make find distinctions and get a better picture of the political plans. <br>I don't espouse ZIonist anymore, which means taht I would not like to see Israel forcing the ZIonist narrative on all Jews and forcing them to immigrate to ISrael, and thus proving that ZIonism is the true calling of the JEws. <br>Another scenario is that eventually Bush will get tired of the thugs and just send them back to their shit hole, and this can include some real military threats against Israel, when the time comes and "God tells him to create a Palestinian State" or "to prepare a place for baby Jesus" to return from heaven.<br>Therefore, I think it is important to focus now on what is actually happening, rather than on the endless speculations regarding "whose fault" was it, ISrael or Bush. While we are discussing it, they are already planning twenty years ahead, as they did with Iraq. <br>Natually, as an ISraeli, I can trace the American influences on ISrael, and not vice versae. I can personally remember who we changed from a socialist society into an american colony, how everyone suddenly had to know ENglish, how American culture took over, how education conformed to US standards, how suddenly scientific and military stuff was all Made in the USA and how everyone only wanted to be liked by the americans. We can discuss it further, I think it is important to discuss it in order to see where all of this turned into this nightmare now, in order to consolidate and create more solidarity. <br>I'll just tell you a small anecdote from my life. When I was graduating high school I had a boy friend. He was very gifted and his uncle, another little genius was already working in the USA for NASA. And so when he became of age, he was "recruited" as well, and now he is an American citizen, working for NASA and DOD and what not. For me, it was like aliens abducting someone I know, and this happened a lot. I was also kind of "purchased" by a Jewish American organization and also Ford Foundation to work on certain political issues, and became americanized before I knew better. I was later "bribed" by a nice scholarship to do a masters in the USA and later the USIA invited me to all kinds of international conferences where we were taught how good american law is, and how we should devise our laws according to the "light". It took me twenty years to realize this is percisely "colonization". We are all half programmed people here, and a lot of it was not just "missionary work" but with a mind to taking over the minds and the social structures of the country. Same went with military, even more. My father, in the mid fifties was sent by the IDF to Alabama base, for a year, where they trained all his group in RADAR technical stuff. I am not sure he, and his friends were able to make the distinction between their interests and US interests they were dazzled. <p></p><i></i>
