Mystery Missile Launch Seen off Calif. Coast

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Re: Mystery Missile Launch Seen off Calif. Coast

Postby 82_28 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:35 pm

Could it be a grand psy-op?

Bush last night. The Ev3NT etc. . .

The event BEGINS with a cruise ship situation, an out of control airliner and on and on. . .

We do have this thread to work with too. . .

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Re: Mystery Missile Launch Seen off Calif. Coast

Postby Simulist » Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:37 pm

"Scary Shit in the Sky" is an ever-present help in times of need for the ruling class: not only do they not have to cover up a lot of what they're doing, but fueling all the rampant speculation that ensues over it is actually beneficial to them also.

How is it beneficial?

The more people's interest gets stirred up over "what might be going on" or "what might be about to happen" (as in the above "prophecies") the less interested they are in organizing themselves in the present — especially along the lines of what Peachtree Pam posted this morning.

No doubt the "Mystery Missile Launch Seen Off Calif. Coast" was very real (so are many other "signs and wonders in the sky," including many UFO sightings) — and interesting to talk about, too — but events like this can also be made very useful to those experts whose goal it is to "unstick" groups of people from their involvement in the present.

And now that I've gone ahead and typed all of that (while drinking my late-coming cup of coffee), I realized that this group is way ahead of me on this sort of stuff already. But since I spent the time to type it, I'll post it anyway. :oops:
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Re: Mystery Missile Launch Seen off Calif. Coast

Postby sunny » Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:38 pm

Jeff wrote:
Pentagon spokesman on mystery missile: 'We've come up empty with any explanation,' but 'are not alarmed about this until we know more'


http://twitter.com/BreakingNews/status/2042470787448832

Isn't the time before you know more usually the proper time for alarm?


The Pentagon has no explanation for a missile launch 35 miles off the coast of California and they are not alarmed? :signwhut:
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Re: Mystery Missile Launch Seen off Calif. Coast

Postby justdrew » Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:42 pm

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Re: Mystery Missile Launch Seen off Calif. Coast

Postby barracuda » Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:54 pm

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Re: Mystery Missile Launch Seen off Calif. Coast

Postby Nordic » Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:55 pm

It's so weird that I missed this. I was literally on top of a building in West LA enjoying the sunset for a few minutes, right about this time!

Yeah, something really bothers me about this, too, insofar as it coincides with the Bush interview .......

Anybody remember this?

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This was Bush's last day in office. The skies over Los Angeles. I took it myself, got out of the car to do so, with my crappy cell phone camera.

Another RI'er saw it, too, from the hills of Topanga, and had some photos.
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Re: Mystery Missile Launch Seen off Calif. Coast

Postby brainpanhandler » Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:37 pm

Chinese missile could shift Pacific power balance
U.S. naval planners are scrambling to deal with carrier-killing weapon

By ERIC TALMADGE
The Associated Press
updated 8/5/2010

ABOARD THE USS GEORGE WASHINGTON — Nothing projects U.S. global air and sea power more vividly than supercarriers. Bristling with fighter jets that can reach deep into even landlocked trouble zones, America's virtually invincible carrier fleet has long enforced its dominance of the high seas.

China may soon put an end to that.

U.S. naval planners are scrambling to deal with what analysts say is a game-changing weapon being developed by China — an unprecedented carrier-killing missile called the Dong Feng 21D that could be launched from land with enough accuracy to penetrate the defenses of even the most advanced moving aircraft carrier at a distance of more than 1,500 kilometers (900 miles).

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38580745/



I suppose it could be some sort of a warning shot.

Let's hope we don't have a general Jack Ripper captaining a nuclear armed sub.

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Re: Mystery Missile Launch Seen off Calif. Coast

Postby Dradin Kastell » Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:59 pm

82_28 wrote:From Reddit:

NOTAM for LA.

KZLA LOS ANGELES A2832/10 - THE FOLLOWING RESTRICTIONS ARE REQUIRED DUE TO NAVAL AIR WARFARE CENTER WEAPONS DIVISION ACTIVATION OF W537. IN THE INTEREST OF SAFETY, ALL NON-PARTICIPATING PILOTS ARE ADVISED TO AVOID W537. IFR TRAFFIC UNDER ATC JURISDICTION SHOULD ANTICIPATE CLEARANCE AROUND W537 AND CAE 1176. CAE 1155 WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION. CAE 1316 & CAE 1318 WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION. CAE 1177 WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION. W537 ACTIVE, CAE 1176 CLOSED. SURFACE - FL390, 09 NOV 20:00 2010 UNTIL 10 NOV 01:00 2010. CREATED: 08 NOV 20:52 2010

Some interesting comments and insight to possibly be found in thread:

http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comm ... nia_coast/



Naval Air Warfare Center Weapons Division:

"NAWCWD
The Naval Air Warfare Center, Weapons Division (NAWCWD) is an organization within the Naval Air Systems Command (NAVAIR), dedicated to maintaining a center of excellence in weapons development for the Department of the Navy (DoN). NAWCWD has two locations in sunny Southern California; China Lake hosting the land test range and Point Mugu hosting the sea test range.
...

Point Mugu
Bordered by the Pacific Ocean and some of the most bountiful agricultural land in Southern California, Point Mugu hosts one of the Department of the Navy's (DoN) premier sea ranges which includes San Nicolas Island. Located on the Pacific Coast Highway in Ventura county, Point Mugu is within easy reach of costal communities such as Santa Monica to the south and Santa Barbra to the north."

http://www.navair.navy.mil/nawcwd/nawcw ... index.html

About Point Mugu
Point Mugu - Ventura County

Point Mugu Sunrise Bordered by the Pacific Ocean and some of the most bountiful agricultural land in Southern California, Point Mugu hosts one of the Department of the Navy's (DoN) premier sea ranges which includes San Nicolas Island. Located on the Pacific Coast Highway in Ventura County, Point Mugu is within easy reach of costal communities such as Santa Monica to the south and Santa Barbara to the north. The Weapons Division at Point Mugu is hosted by the Naval Base Ventura County (NBVC).

[snip]

During World War II, Point Mugu became a training area for the Seabees at Port Hueneme. The Seabees put down a section of Marston Mat runway which became Point Mugu's first airstrip. In 1946 the Secretary of the Navy endorsed, and President Truman approved, the establishment of the Naval Air Missile Test Center at Point Mugu. Captain Albert N. Perkins was assigned as the Center's first commanding officer. Throughout it's 60 year history the facilities at Point Mugu have undergone many changes, but the high quality of the work has always remained constant."

http://www.navair.navy.mil/nawcwd/nawcw ... t_mugu.htm

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Nicolas_Island
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Re: Mystery Missile Launch Seen off Calif. Coast

Postby Seamus OBlimey » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:07 pm

Obama out East, Cameron out East, both presumably with their respective spooky entourages. Could this be an attempt to observe the Eastern perception of/reaction to such an event at close range?
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Re: Mystery Missile Launch Seen off Calif. Coast

Postby pepsified thinker » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:13 pm

Just heard that Obama is cutting short his trip--reason given: worried that another volcanic eruption will create an ash cloud that would limit his ability to fly.

Got on to post that (after having long been away from RigInt--I came to see what ya'll would make of that missile launch)--and had a local public station streaming, and as I logged in, there was a signal of the type that precedes a tornado warning, etc. but no message followed.

Kinda creepy.

(anyone up for a run to get a few cases of bottled water, etc.?)
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Re: Mystery Missile Launch Seen off Calif. Coast

Postby pepsified thinker » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:27 pm

Here's a link:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/10/world/asia/10prexy.html?hp

Indonesians have prepared three other times for a visit from the president, only to be thrice disappointed. Last year, the White House hinted that Mr. Obama might tuck in an Indonesia stop on a November trip to Asia, but that did not happen. In March, Mr. Obama and his wife and daughters canceled a trip at the last minute so that he could stay home to shepherd his health care bill through Congress. In June, another Indonesia trip was canceled so the president could deal with the BP oil spill.

Now, it is ash from the eruption of Mount Merapi that is interfering with his plans, forcing Mr. Obama to leave the country earlier on Wednesday than he had planned for Seoul, South Korea, where he is to attend the Group of 20 conference of world leaders. He will still deliver a speech at the University of Indonesia, and he will squeeze in a stop at the Istiqlal Mosque, the largest in Southeast Asia. But his visit to Kalibata Heroes Cemetery in south Jakarta, where Indonesia’s war dead are buried, is being scrapped. And as if that weren’t enough, a loud thunderstorm forced his joint news conference with President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono indoors Tuesday evening.
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Re: Mystery Missile Launch Seen off Calif. Coast

Postby psynapz » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:44 pm

nathan28 wrote:There seems to be a spiral exhaust trail on that. Is it secretly an alternate dimension technology?

...now why have you got to be such an :evil: :eeyaa ?

It must be too much to assume we can all agree that constructive conversation is preferable here. I never properly told you how flattered I am that you loved my off-handed characterization of you so much you sigged it permanently, but I never even improperly told you how thoroughly and truly disgusted I was by the very same. :wink:
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Re: Mystery Missile Launch Seen off Calif. Coast

Postby psynapz » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:56 pm

82_28 wrote:KZLA LOS ANGELES A2832/10 - THE FOLLOWING RESTRICTIONS ARE REQUIRED DUE TO NAVAL AIR WARFARE CENTER WEAPONS DIVISION ACTIVATION OF W537.

Dradin Kastell wrote:In 1946 the Secretary of the Navy endorsed, and President Truman approved, the establishment of the Naval Air Missile Test Center at Point Mugu. Captain Albert N. Perkins was assigned as the Center's first commanding officer. Throughout it's 60 year history the facilities at Point Mugu have undergone many changes, but the high quality of the work has always remained constant."

Simply, why would the Navy deny it? If they don't issue a retraction sometime this week that blames inefficiencies in communications with the PR department, then is it safe to assume that they're trying to hide it in plain sight. Safer than assuming it's accurate that it wasn't the Navy's rocket and that some private space launch company had a test launch the Navy (and FAA?) didn't know about ahead of time.
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Re: Mystery Missile Launch Seen off Calif. Coast

Postby Nordic » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:58 pm

http://www.informationdissemination.net ... ination%29

When someone makes an unannounced launch what looks to be a ballistic missile 35 miles from the nations second largest city (at sea in international waters), and 18 hours later NORAD still doesn't have any answers at all - that complete lack of information represents a credible threat to national security. If NORAD can't answer the first and last question, then I believe it is time to question every single penny of ballistic missile defense funding in the defense budget. NORTHCOM needs to start talking about what they do know, rather than leaving the focus on what they don't know.



Also, a Wired.com article that has some good links (including the one above)

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/11 ... -near-l-a/
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Re: Mystery Missile Launch Seen off Calif. Coast

Postby pepsified thinker » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:00 pm

No offense, but is this about to turn into a thread-diverting personal battle of some sort? I've been away for a while so I don't know the history of (s)he said/(s)he said, but does that have to happen here?

Sorry if I'm misunderstanding somehow.

[on re-edit--that was for the post a bit above the one by Nordic]
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