Mystery Missile Launch Seen off Calif. Coast

[justdrew]

I don't know, the more I look into it the more plausible the contrail theory is. Planes in that area of very moist air do produce massive contrails at times, and I can see how it could be going our over the ocean and not up. There are video's all over youtube of planes making very big delta-shaped contrails right out of the engines, so it can work like that. They even have the probable jet, Hawaii to Phoenix AWE808, the timing is right the flight path is right, the same flight the next day produced a similar effect too.

[nathan28]

I don't know, the more I look into it the more plausible the contrail theory is. Planes in that area of very moist air do produce massive contrails at times, and I can see how it could be going our over the ocean and not up. There are video's all over youtube of planes making very big delta-shaped contrails right out of the engines, so it can work like that. They even have the probable jet, Hawaii to Phoenix AWE808, the timing is right the flight path is right, the same flight the next day produced a similar effect too.

I don't disagree here, but I'd like to see someone actually follow up on the damn NOAA and NGA memos. B/c they say "missile" and "daily" in them.

[Laodicean]

[justdrew]

I don't know, the more I look into it the more plausible the contrail theory is. Planes in that area of very moist air do produce massive contrails at times, and I can see how it could be going our over the ocean and not up. There are video's all over youtube of planes making very big delta-shaped contrails right out of the engines, so it can work like that. They even have the probable jet, Hawaii to Phoenix AWE808, the timing is right the flight path is right, the same flight the next day produced a similar effect too.

I don't disagree here, but I'd like to see someone actually follow up on the damn NOAA and NGA memos. B/c they say "missile" and "daily" in them.

yeah, the oddity remains, those warning zones seem to make it clear threat they reserve the right to launch stuff almost any day, and advise craft to contact certain radio frequencies when in the area. So - When the military got the first damn call, it's almost inconcievable, or pat least poathetic, that the call didn't go through to someone who could look at what was going on out there and in a matter of minutes say, "yeah, that's just AWE808 with a huge long contrail coming over the horizon."

It seems to show that the military is as subject to Priming as anyone else, since people called in asking about "what's that missile," they assume it must have been a missile and spend lord only knows how many man hours tracking down every person they can find to ask, "know anything about a missile launch in the area?" If instead of trying to track down every operational capability in the armed forces to ask about missile launches, and get a denial from them, they'd spent a few minutes asking one of their air traffic controllers what was going on outside their window, they'd have known.

[nathan28]

Am I the only person on the internet who sees a spiral pattern like the Norway missile test there?

[nathan28]

they'd spent a few minutes asking one of their air traffic controllers what was going on outside their window, they'd have known.

Exactly. The point is that a few major outlets (though not all) simply refuse to engage in 150-year old journalistic practices on this. We live in a world full of "information" but can't get to any damn data. If it is a missile test, there's a bigger story there. If it's just a damn jet, it def. made enough local news headlines to be worth chasing. Send a freaking $9/hour intern to NOAA, for fuck's sake.

[Occult Means Hidden]

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But this looks rather terrestrial. Rather mundane and terrestrial. Would anyone in their right mind think that this would help ticket sales?

Are you being serious? I mean it as deep symbolism. Not viral marketing. But marketing may be the correct word as marketing my be integral on the world stage. Some mentioned "priming" already in this thread.

Would a missile launch like this be a primer for the observers? And to what purpose?

First question is generally agreed to as being affirmative. Second is debated. Hence the search for symbolism. To answer the second question.

[Nordic]

Wow, here's a real spin-job:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/pent ... t-missile/

Until now, the Pentagon had been reluctant to confirm what outside experts were saying: that what the video had recorded was a common optical illusion.

Experts said that the vapor trail, or contrail, of an aircraft approaching the observer often looks like it is rising vertically into sky because the end of the tail is hidden by the curvature of the Earth.

"It's a jet plane contrail, obviously," said John Pike, director of GlobalSecurity.org.

Obviously!

But -- there were a LOT of experts yesterday saying it looked for all the world like a missile. Then, further down in the article, they end up contradicting themselves:

In Moscow, Major General Alexander Vladimirov, vice president of Russia's board of military experts, told the Interfax news agency the television image "looks like the launch of a missile from a submarine."

"Most likely we are talking about the launch of a Trident-2 ballistic missile from an Ohio submarine," Vladimirov was quoted as saying.

"There is reason to believe this was an unsanctioned launch of a missile from a submarine. If this is so, then many questions arise about the condition of the US armed forces," he said.

I guess Russians don't count as "experts" in their book.

[psynapz]

Am I the only person on the internet who sees a spiral pattern like the Norway missile test there?

Oh you were being serious!? Shit, sorry nathan.

No, you aren't the only one... a similar pattern seemed to be an aspect of the Norway spiral phenomenon, but I couldn't say the Norway thing was therefore a rocket.

[mulebone]

After watching Jon Stewart "de-bunk" the missile theory with the "it's a plane theory" I couldn't help wondering why no debunker has checked aircraft schedules to produce the actual plane that was supposedly flying like a missile. They have schedules don't they? Giant jumbo jets don't just depart whenever the pilot feels the urge right? I'm almost positive airplanes are tracked on radar. Then again, maybe they abandoned that practice after Reagan canned the air traffic controllers back in the 80s. They just never bothered telling anyone.

[Nordic]

Yeah, it's professional news footage, there would be a time stamp on the video, and it wouldn't be hard to figure out exactly which flight it was.

But oh, no, they don't need to do that because "experts" have already told us it was a plane, so they of course can't be bothered to tell us which plane it was.

[Laodicean]

Who is this "POPE WEARS RED SHOES" clown? She "weighs" in on the " missile shit now.

[justdrew]

http://www.google.com/search?q=AWE808

and yeah, Russia Today, there's a subject I'd like to see torn into, I wonder who's behind that? It seems kinda Sorcha influenced.

[psynapz]

WOW, someone's been a busy, busy beaver on the mic she listens to. They're going for a shotgun approach to badjacketing, I'd say.

[justdrew]

holly shit... she is totally going for it. that is really weird to see. Feels like a total reality disjunction. Maybe something like a marketing/arg tie in or personal video project, but I really think she means it for reals... I hope to hell we're not going to see some kind of global distributed self-initiated heavens gate maneuver from this. Anyone have any sense on if any groups are taking this seriously? I guess the Rense brigades almost have to play along... has Jones acknowledge her recent transmissions?

and what about this troop movement stuff is there really anything documenting that on these 'citizen's news' sites?