What does this "Dr. Phil" guy know??

[nomo]

I don't watch TV so I'm not that familiar with this guy, and I haven't really been following this girl's story either, but something strikes me as odd here. How does this guy know what he knows? Does he know more than the authorities?<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.juiceenewsdaily.com/1105/news/holloway.html?1130994790609">www.juiceenewsdaily.com/1...0994790609</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Dr. Phil: 'Natalee Holloway is alive'<br><br>(JND) - Dr. Phil was hesitant to reveal what he termed, "too much information" Wednesday night. However, the doctor's light-hearted appearance on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno turned serious when discussing the issue of the missing Alabama teenager.<br><br>"<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Without giving up too much information... we believe Natalee Holloway is alive.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->"<br><br>Dr. Phil pointing to what he termed the "<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>sex slave market</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->" as the main point of focus in the ongoing investigation.<br><br>Holloway Bio:<br>Natalee Holloway (born October 21, 1986) is a U.S. teenager from Mountain Brook, Alabama, a suburb of Birmingham, whose disappearance on May 30, 2005 during a post-graduation trip in Aruba caused citizen concern in Aruba along with a media sensation in the United States.<br><br>Holloway and 124 fellow graduates of Mountain Brook High School was visiting Aruba on an unofficial senior class graduation trip. She was last seen leaving Carlos’n Charlie’s, a popular tourist-oriented bar and grill, early in the morning with Dutch-born Joran van der Sloot, the then seventeen year old son of an ex-judicial official trainee, and two companions, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, Surinamese-born brothers of East Indian origin, in Deepak's car.<br><br>Natalee Holloway did not appear for her return flight the next morning, nor did she appear in any security camera footage of the hotel lobby in the course of the night. Her passport, packed bags, and cellular phone were found in her hotel room. Searches of the island began immediately, but have been fruitless as of 2005.<br><br>Holloway was, according to her parents, to have started her undergraduate pre-med studies on a full scholarship at the University of Alabama in August 2005. <p></p><i></i>

[Homeless Halo]

Don't know much about Dr. Phil, 'cept the sleights levelled his way by the mainstream psychological corridors, which might give him more credibility...<br><br>I saw him on NBC last night too. Don't normally watch TV, but I caught that section with him. Thought it was odd.<br><br>From what I've gathered he has celebrity powers, which means he probably does have more people working on this than the FBI does.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[Ted the dog]

"Without giving up too much information... we believe Natalee Holloway is alive."<br><br>Dr. Phil pointing to what he termed the "sex slave market" as the main point of focus in the ongoing investigation."<br><br><br>wow...that's pretty crazy. What kind of tip-off would they get that would lead them to the sex slave market, but not actually to the girl herself? and why Dr. Phil?!! I thought he just did couples therapy and told hen-pecked husbands not to look at pornography.... <p></p><i></i>

[proldic]

Hey what's up Hollywood<br> <p></p><i></i>

[glubglubglub]

Dr. Phil's decided that it'd be fantastic publicity for his show to find and rescue Ms. Holloway, and is paying for some private investigators to do his investigating. To be a rational expenditure he'd probably need some assurance she'd be findable -- perhaps his celebrity status would get him some responsiveness from local officials -- but the media bonanza after a 'Dr. Phil saves the Holloway Girl' would pay for the investigators' efforts dozens of times over.<br><br>As to where he's getting his info and why he's dropping it on Letterman I have no real idea, however -- so wtf he knows and how he knows it is still a matter of interest. My own $20 is that if she's been sold into sex slavery she won't make it out alive. <p></p><i></i>

[ARV]

Shannon Marketic, the 1992 Miss USA beauty queen who was among the dozens of women "kept" for the Sultan of Brunei. She went to Singapore for the purpose of attending a photo shoot...suddenly disappearing. This happened 8 years ago. <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/sultan1.html">www.thesmokinggun.com/arc...ltan1.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>If a young woman is intoxicated on a small island, a hiccup to a continent, yet in the open seas, more things could have happened off the island than on.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[banned]

...when I saw her picture, blonde and all, I said "She's probably giving blow jobs in the Sultan of Brunei's harem as we speak."<br><br>Not to make light of what she and her parents have been through, but there are dozens, hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands of young women who go missing every year and nobody gives a good healthy shit except their immediate circle of family and friends--certainly not the cable networks or "Dr. Phil." Mountain Brook AL is one of the ritziest zipcodes in the US of A. Most kids in the US don't get a trip to the Caribbean for high school graduation, they get a cake, maybe a watch, and the next day they start looking for a summer job. Some kids don't even make it to graduation, they drop out due to drugs or pregnancy. In the third world, kids don't GO to high school, or sometimes, even school at all.<br><br>If one one hundredth of the attention that's gone to Natalee went to international programs to help young people, something might get accomplished of value to everyone, not just some rich parents in a gated community who should have kept a better eye on their daughter. <p></p><i></i>

[marykmusic]

This has been a problem for... as long as there has been prostitution, probably.<br><br>In one of my classes we just did a week on the 1913 Armory show, which introduced Modern Art to America (well, at leat to New Yourk City.) This bronze caused more hullabaloo than any number of other, more radical works, because of its' subject matter: "White Slave" by Abastenia St. Eberle.<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://xroads.virginia.edu/~MUSEUM/Armory/galleryA/eberle.673.html" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>I focused on this piece in order to talk about not only white slavery, but also the fact that it depicts an obviously very young girl, which says "child sexual abuse." Many members of the class were very uncomfortable discussing this issue; imagine how it went over nearly a century ago! People simply wish to ignore this kind of reality... --MaryK<br><br>Edit: the picture doesn't show for me, so here's a link that has not only the statue, but also a discussion of the reaction at the show: <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://xroads.virginia.edu/~MUSEUM/Armory/galleryA/tour.a2.html" target="top">Eberle's "White Slave"</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=marykmusic>marykmusic</A> at: 11/3/05 8:35 pm<br></i>

[Jen]

I really despise Dr. Phil. The man is the worst kind of opportunist operating in today's self-help market. Well, except for his son, of course, but in my eyes, Phil is worse.<br><br>The scam Phil, who is a Ph.D. in psychology, is running on those who seek his advice, is centered on the idea that these people can "heal" serious psychological problems, all by themselves, problems which are often the result of trauma, only through altering a few superficial behaviors. Altering behavior is, of course, part of any good therapy for survivors of abuse and trauma, but it's only part of the process. Phil honestly tells people that all they need to do in order to improve their often chaotic, dysfunctional lives and relationships is "think a little differently." I call this the "band-aid-on-a-gushing-wound" approach to "psychotherapy" and he makes millions of dollars a year doing it. He ignores the environmental and societal connections to what the individuals he "treats" are going through. He ignores a lot of things, including empathy and sanity. He's an asshole. Can't stand him. <p></p><i></i>

[Homeless Halo]

In phil's defense, although I personally find him to be somewhat annoying:<br><br>It should be noted that "Phil" himself only does introductory treatment for any of his "patients", most of whom DO NOT suffer from severe mental problems, but rather run-of-the-mill "issues" which wouldn't have required the assistance of a therapist only a few dozen years ago. He leaves the actual "therapy" to better equipped professionals. That is, he will set his "patients" up with people who can actually help them when he's done broadcasting their faults for America to see.<br><br>In general, I find him annoying, but I think it has a potentially positive effect, and can only increase genuine awareness of the commonality of "issues" among industrialized peoples.<br><br>Not saying he isn't an opportunists, just that you shouldn't expect anyone on TV NOT to be. <p></p><i></i>

[FourthBase]

So he and Oprah are on the same sex slave kick?<br>I don't trust Oprah, she seems like a uber-Scientologist.<br>Cruise, Presley, Travolta, Alley, Lewis...she treats them like gods.<br>Maybe she's part of the deluxe Celebrity Center treatment?<br><br>Anyway...if she's not a cult freak, and she actually cares about child sex slavery...<br>And she's getting Dr. Phil involved, too...well, watch out.<br>That could be a very, very good thing for children, for the world.<br>And a bad thing for SRA/sex-slave perps. <p></p><i></i>

[Homeless Halo]

Sort of what I'm saying. Any mainstream non-ridiculing take on this topic is good for the illumination of the dark places. And bad for the dark places.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[jenz]

banned should have kept a better eye on their daughter?<br><br>take it back please. its one of the ways this issue stays where it is on the political agenda. everyone thinks it only can happen to someone else's child, 3rd world kid, bad part of town kid, or kid whose parents weren't careful.<br><br>actually, bar building yourself an armoured fortress and employing food tasters, if it doesn't happen to someone you love its because you were lucky.<br><br>I've seen a few hundred photos of faces of children who got to star in porn movies. they are no different from anyone else's beloved child.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[GDN01]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>It should be noted that "Phil" himself only does introductory treatment for any of his "patients", most of whom DO NOT suffer from severe mental problems, but rather run-of-the-mill "issues" which wouldn't have required the assistance of a therapist only a few dozen years ago.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>What ever we see on the "Phil" show - it is not treatment of any sort, not even introductory. It is entertainment. That is all. I think it is irresponsible (of Phil) to even suggest that a couple, or individual, could deal with any issue, in a one hour session - on a tv set being taped for national viewing, and receive any benefit whatsoever. <br><br>There is something seriously wrong when entertainment and treatment are considered one in the same. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=gdn01>GDN01</A> at: 11/4/05 10:51 am<br></i>

[Asta]

His pop-psychology techniques are the tactics of a schoolyard bully in many respects. I once was a viewer of his show until it began to sink in how he intimidated people, and then I banned him altogether after the way he treated the two ladies who were protesting the war in Iraq (this was before we officially attacked that country and millions were protesting in the streets). He humiliated them before a studio audience which was filled with military personnel. <br><br>It was at that moment I began to hate him for his contempt for the Peacemakers. (He has never apologized to them in all this time, in light of what we know now that this war is an immoral act of murderous fraud.)<br><br>But the people who appear on his show, dragging their dirty laundry with them, enable him. And the voyeurs tuning in daily to gawk at another's problems only enable him. <br><br>And he's from Texas.<br><br>And yes, I am drawing a corrollary between him and Bush. There is something wrong with our society that would follow these Authoritarian Personality types. There is an excellent article in the Guardian describing this type of disorder, and I think all of you will find it most revealing. <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1033904,00.html#article_continue">www.guardian.co.uk/usa/st...e_continue</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>(I'm sorry I don't know how to encode links properly. Good ole copy and paste.)<br><br> <p></p><i></i>