don't care what the scilons say, psychiatry now a sick joke

[Maddy]

There's another thread about a woman confusing DMT with mescaline with salvia active right now. That sort of "all drugs = all drugs" reasoning is anti-rational and shows a genuine unwillingness to commit to careful analysis of a problem.

I do hope you're not referencing me. I'm not confusing drugs with each other. As a matter of fact, that's why I had posted, to get things squared away so that I might understand, which has nothing to do with "all drugs = all drugs" and being "anti-rational". As a matter of fact, the woman who came to me with the comments about the DMT was specifically attempting to discern between the truth and the "urban legends" going around about it. So please don't use that thread as an example, as its a very poor one, and actually works against your argument. Especially with the amount of educated information going on in it.

Thank you.

[JackRiddler]

Je ne suis pas un théoricien du conspiration.

[Project Willow]

Je suis témoin à une conspiration

[JackRiddler]

Moi aussi mais peut-être pas la même!

[hava1]

Ah, and we come 'round to echos of the Begley/McCullough/Kate Dixon affair.

going to the ladies room for a moment, girls talk..
i've actually changed my mind about AD recently. First I thought he was a mutation of DE, in spirit, then I realized he is actually a good guy, the type whose strings gets pulled by the more experienced, manupulative bitches in the background. He is in fact the male version of little red riding hood ))).

[Project Willow]

Ah, le secret est dévoilé!

[Project Willow]

Just noticing some patterns Hava, the causes of which are rather impossible to detect in this limited environment.
Well, here's to life with ambiguity!

...But I think you've stepped into new territory using the "b" word, ... I'll just quietly back away now.

[American Dream]

nathan28 wrote:

I basically agree, am not against the accepted psychopharmaceuticals per se, do not discount the very real problems associated with mental illness, and definitely do think that sometimes the meds can help. It's an individual choice and once again, it just depends.

But by and large the antipsychiatry and anti-psychiatric drug movements *are* at a basic level opposed to those things, which is why it's so easy for CCHR and NaturalNews to swoop the fuck in and sell your chair out from under you when you start trucking in that.

I understand your point, but I think you're painting with overly broad brushstrokes.

[Jeff]

This isn't new, but it may have been forgotten, so a reminder:

A public forum such as this is not an appropriate venue for soliciting or offering diagnoses of ritual abuse, mind control, abduction, psychological disturbance or any similar history or condition.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=12637

So, a general, all-points caution. I don't want people chucking their medication or deterred from seeking treatment on account of opinion read here.

[American Dream]

Thank you, Jeff.

I could remove the link to the Harm Reduction Guide if you think that's appropriate, or even change the name to something more obscure if you think that's necessary.

I also think that raises a larger question about how to talk about psychiatric drugs here on this forum in a way that's actually helpful...

[American Dream]

I'd also like to invite constructive feedback on this thread.

If things here went astray, when did that happen? Why did that happen?

Most importantly, what can we do to make things better?

[Saurian Tail]

AD -

Since you asked for feedback ... justdrew started a thread about _psychiatry_ and attached trigger words like scilon and sick joke. The original article was a fascinating glimpse into the current state of the profession and I was glad to have read it ... but there are some topics and conversations IMO that need to be framed with a little more care.

-ST

** edited to indicate justdrew as the OP ... not AD. Sorry about that!

[norton ash]

^^ Saurian, justdrew started the thread and affixed the title.

but there are some topics and conversations IMO that need to be framed with a little more care.

Indeed.

[Saurian Tail]

^^ Saurian, justdrew started the thread and affixed the title.

Dang ... sorry about that AD. Thanks for the clarification Norton.

-ST

[hava1]

pardon my French \\\

well, mine is ESL, and in this dialect, the word is kosher, but I might not be aware of the finesse on this board ) every day new guidelines

I only skimmed this thread, which seems to be in fact "how to drive some neurotic people off the edge and then diagnose them", and fell on your comment which brought a host of memories...

on edit - to the issue, where I live, americans are ridiculed for always branding their agony or personality problems with a "diagnosis" from the DSM. Intead of saying, I am a pest, they will say "I am dianosed and treated for OCD" etc. This particular trend didnt catch here, but McDonalds sure did. I think the RUssian herritage here is strong, and psychiatry is associated with the Gulags (the old Gitmo's).

:fem: Just noticing some patterns Hava, the causes of which are rather impossible to detect in this limited environment.
Well, here's to life with ambiguity!

...But I think you've stepped into new territory using the "b" word, ... I'll just quietly back away now.