Arrest made in JonBenet Ramsey murder case

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Postby FourthBase » Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:16 am

Very interesting take, Pan.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>VAN SUSTEREN: All right...<br><br>KARR: <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>And maybe he got his nose in where he shouldn't have gotten in it or whatever.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> But we can talk more about that tomorrow if we could get a chance to talk to you.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: To Arcadia

Postby El Tedo » Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:44 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I think of the James Gaines quote prefacing the Konformist article: "To know who murdered JonBenét Ramsey is to know what world we live in."<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I think its worth noting that Gaines was the managing editor of Time Magazine and using ridiculous hyperbole like that sells more papers and lines his pockets. I don't know that I'd put much faith in his judgement. <br><br>The murder of one girl is tragic, but in the "big picture" sadly insignificant. The coverage of this hoax confession is base, tabloid exploitation at its worse- nothing more. The righteous wrath of <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Arcadia</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> is misplaced, I think. The media institution doesn't give a damn about finding the real killer or seeing "justice" served, they're out to make a buck and protect the establishment like they always do. <br><br>The coverage of this fabricated event is worthless exploitation and is taking away steam from other more IMPORTANT stories, like the wiretap rulings in Detriot (and yes, that story is way more important than the death of little Jonbenet). Since the confession seems to be an obvious hoax, and the media attention is so exploitive, so sensationalist, it makes us all pederasts by association-- why give this grizzly freak-show any more attention?<br><br>and BTW, Looking at autopsy photos of a little girl as a hobby is ghoulish, and prattling on about her "little hands"... well, it makes one wonder...<br><br>There's nothing earth-shattering, or exceptional about this ugly murder except for the imaginary importance ascribed to it by legions of demented pervs who've also "fallen in love with JonBenet" <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=eltedo@rigorousintuition>El Tedo</A> at: 8/19/06 12:44 am<br></i>
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Re: To Arcadia

Postby FourthBase » Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:55 am

Um, dipshit, investigating her murder leads to the discovery of the enormous pedophile ring at the top of the military-industrial-media complex. <p></p><i></i>
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re:Pan's theory

Postby sunny » Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:47 am

I think it has a lot of merit. Karr's comments are so cryptic, you have to look at them with a view that he know's things that could cause him a lot of grief. <br><br>BTW, today (yesterday, sorry) victim's advocate Wendy Murphy was the first person in teeveeland to cast a conspiratorial eye toward all of this. She refused to agree that the Ramsey's were "in the clear" and made the point that Ramsey could know Karr because they both lived in Georgia at the same time. I hope we hear more from her.<br><br>Also, I have to wonder about the timing of Patsy's death. Not that I think she was murdered, but she did die soon after hearing Karr was a suspect. Could she have been frightened enough at the prospect of his arrest that she gave up the fight? <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=sunny@rigorousintuition>sunny</A> at: 8/19/06 2:53 am<br></i>
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Re: re:Pan's theory

Postby xsic bastardx » Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:02 am

<br><br> looks like in my mind that the Ramseys themselves are still suspects #1.<br><br> This guy is nuts, I really don't see him doing it now. Look at his eyes. He saved his ass from rotting in a Thailand Jail Cell(maybe?).<br><br> I can see little Jon Benet now running thru the Hous screaming...."daddy, no more....no more...." <p></p><i></i>
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Re: re:Pan's theory

Postby sunny » Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:24 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>He saved his ass from rotting in a Thailand Jail Cell(maybe?).<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>No, he was picked up only because of the warrant out of Boulder. There are no charges against him in Bangkok. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: re:Pan's theory

Postby anotherdrew » Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:56 am

"No, he was picked up only because of the warrant out of Boulder. There are no charges against him in Bangkok."<br><br>this was a surprise, due to the early wording of him "already being in custody" which sure sounds like "they'd already picked him up on something else there" - but they didn't, they went and had the locals bust him for this and this only. and now, He's handling this billiantly so far; he's charging straight into the charges which is making everyone question what's going on. and what's up with the 'five charges of chld prnography' they hung on him? What's the proof on that? Anyway, it's so easy to fake that kinda thing by planting evidence. Isn't it just barely possible that this guy has been working to bust the real bad-folks, and they've set him up instead? Honestly, I don't see a perp in those pictures of him, in fact, he seemed to me just the opossite oddly enough.<br><br>I've seen it said he exchanged letters with the mother, isn't it possible she provided him with the 'special non-public' info he suposedly knew about the case? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: re:Pan's theory

Postby Sepka » Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:05 am

xsic bastardx said: <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>This guy is nuts, [...] Look at his eyes.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>He's got a thousand-yard stare, doesn't he? He's either not interested in the things around him, or else he's so heavily drugged his eyes won't focus.<br><br>-Sepka the Space Weasel <p></p><i></i>
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cop changes story

Postby sunny » Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:21 am

Seems some of the statements made by Karr which contradicted the evidence were only quoted by a Thai policeman. The cop is now changing his story for a better fit.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.krqe.com/expanded.asp?ID=16754">www.krqe.com/expanded.asp?ID=16754</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>BANGKOK, Thailand -- A Thai official is backing off statements he quoted which raised serious questions about whether suspect John Karr was involved in the murder of JonBenet Ramsey.<br>The Thai immigration police official is changing part of his account about what Karr told interrogators specifically about details that set off a few red flags.<br><br>For one thing, the police official quoted Karr as saying that he had given the 6-year-old girl drugs, but the autopsy after the 1996 murder revealed no drugs in her system. <br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>But today the Lt. Gen. Suwat Tumrongsiskul backed off that, saying Karr told him, "It may have been drugs," and that everything was a "blur."</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Also, the police official now says Karr never told him that he picked up JonBenet at school. He said he got that from a documentary he had seen.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br>JonBenet was killed during the Christmas break.<br><br>Karr remains in a Thai jail ready to leave for the U.S. at any time to face accusations in the slaying.<br><br>Unlike yesterday, when he answered questions from reporters and stunned them by declaring he killed the girl accidentally, a sign is posted at the jail today tells reporters Karr is not allowed visitors.<br><br>Karr did get a visit today from a U.S. consular official, who had no comment on the Ramsey case.<br><br>A Thai police official said Karr is ready to return to the U.S. but now wants to fight the case. He said U.S. officials are preparing documents and plane tickets.<br><br>The district attorney in Boulder, Colo., said Karr was arrested a day after he began teaching second grade in Bangkok. Karr had been fired from a job teaching first-graders at another Thai school in June because officials said he didn't seem to work well with young children. <br><br>Another American teacher who works at the school said he found Karr to be an "odd ball."<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Psychic on MSNBC

Postby FourthBase » Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:23 pm

Kooky, but she's adamantly suggesting that a huge pedophile ring is responsible for JBR's murder. <p></p><i></i>
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bits and pieces

Postby Avalon » Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:49 pm

It is now being said that Patsy didn't actually correspond with Karr, that the emails were routed through some law enforcement agency that wrote back in her guise.<br><br>I heard one one news clip that the phrase about not speaking to a dog came from a movie? Hang 'Em High? Reservoir Dogs? I've forgotten which title.<br><br>Sure takes the focus off the American soldiers raping and killing the Iraqi girl.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Psychic on MSNBC

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:53 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>looks like in my mind that the Ramseys themselves are still suspects #1.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Agreed. In my mind, as important as who actually did it(and family still ranks high(est) for me), there's a..complicity here at work which to me implicates the entire house. I expressed yesterday that re-examining this story with hindsight and what I've learned here at RI, it appears to me that the Ramsey family was in the act of buying their way into the next tier up using the apparent coin of the realm, which was their own child. I look at before the child's death, at the disgusting way this girl was force-grown in a visually sexual manner and completely fail to grasp it(as I did then). I remember seeing a news special about mothers addicted to paegents and that kind of shit, but I didn't buy it as an excuse.<br><br>This child was being groomed for abuse.<br><br>Simple.<br><br>And if the hands themselves were't someone under her own roof, I'm convinced they know who's hands it actually was. The story needs to be pushed; someone fucked up in the act of indulging a sicko illuminati perversion a ways back and this might be one of the only chances to gouge the public awareness due to their long-standing empathy for the child.<br><br>I suggest an immediate data dump thread of the case for people here to reference, compile, and use on other boards. <br><br>Jeff, does ezboard allow you to leave a shadow of a thread after you've moved it? Damn I wish you had phpBB.. <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i></i>
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Re: Psychic on MSNBC

Postby Dreams End » Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:06 pm

I post this for a reason different from the media. Evidently John Mark wrote this note in a yearbook. They think this explains the "sbtc" remark but I was struck by the other part...<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Boulder prosecutors are in contact with a former classmate of Karr's because a yearbook signed by him more than 20 years ago may explain why a ransom note in the Ramsey home was signed "S.B.T.C.", the Rocky Mountain News reported Friday.<br><br>In the 1982 yearbook, Karr ended his missive with the line: "Though, deep in the future, maybe I shall be the conqueror <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>and live in multiple peace.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->" Investigators wonder if "S.B.T.C" means "shall be the conqueror."<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.comcast.net/news/index.jsp?cat=GENERAL&fn=/2006/08/19/458872.html&cvqh=itn_karr">link</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Psychic on MSNBC

Postby FourthBase » Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:17 pm

And I bet on a grocery list years ago he wrote:<br><br>Milk, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>s</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->oda, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>b</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->read, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>t</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->ea, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>c</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->ashews, lettuce... <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Psychic on MSNBC

Postby chiggerbit » Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:29 pm

DE, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>S</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->aved <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>B</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->y <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>T</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->he <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>C</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->ross?<br><br>SBTC<br><br>And not necessarily exclusively referring to Karr.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/SBTC">acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/SBTC</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 8/19/06 11:34 am<br></i>
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