It's Official: US Court Rules Gitmo Victims Not Persons

[Simulist]

Ignorance + hypocrisy + cruelty + racism + greed = zionism

Thanks for posting this, Alice.

I knew that Ayn Rand was a monstrous person, but what I hadn't fully realized was how thoroughly stupid she was also.

[freemason9]

As a snarky reminder--unless you acknowledge the existence of God, human "rights" only exist insofar as other humans are willing to bestow them. Absent supernatural guidance or the presence of a universal god entity, "natural" rights do not exist at all. Such rights are human constructs that vary from place to place, even from person to person.

Fortunately, I am a Presbyterian. I have no idea how the rest of you roll, but be careful when you discuss rights; be certain that you acknowledge where such rights originate.

The Clash said you should know your rights, all three of them.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled pissing match.

[blanc]

""natural" rights do not exist at all"
depends on what you think human nature is really, and how you think humans came to posit the God idea.

[freemason9]

""natural" rights do not exist at all"
depends on what you think human nature is really, and how you think humans came to posit the God idea.

what

[stickdog99]

There are no "victims" at Guantanamo - only terrorists being detained. And of course they have no human rights - they're not only not members of the civilization from which those rights derive, they're actively working to destroy it. How on earth could they possibly claim any human rights?

Your .22 must need adjusting. Even I can catch its bullets.

[Twyla LaSarc]

God, Ayn Rand was ugly. And I mean the one that goes to the bone.

As for the rest..FFFUUUUUUUUU............

I give up and accede my humanity all together. If others with my basic physical makeup are not inherently human, well neither am I.

And fuck all who torture animals and other living beings.

I feel physically ill.

[Pele'sDaughter]

http://www.allgov.com/Controversies/Vie ... ers_111103

New Head of Guantánamo Prison Orders Guards to Begin Reading Mail from Lawyers

Thursday, November 03, 2011
New Head of Guantánamo Prison Orders Guards to Begin Reading Mail from Lawyers

Since taking command of Guantánamo Bay, Rear Admiral David Woods has ordered prison guards to read all mail for detainees, including correspondence from their lawyers which is supposed to be protected under attorney-client privilege.

Woods decided to change the long-standing policy to allow inspection of all communications deemed relevant to military commission cases.

Nine attorneys representing detainees wrote a letter to William Lietzau, deputy assistant secretary of defense for rule of law and detainee policy, to object to the opening of their mail to clients. They requested the Pentagon to order Woods to “cease and desist the seizure, opening, translating, reading and reviewing of attorney-client privileged communications.”

Previously, guards opened the mail in the presence of detainees to ensure there was no contraband in the envelopes, and then handed it to them without reading the contents.

[Bruce Dazzling]

http://www.allgov.com/Controversies/ViewNews/New_Head_of_Guantanamo_Prison_Orders_Guards_to_Begin_Reading_Mail_from_Lawyers_111103

New Head of Guantánamo Prison Orders Guards to Begin Reading Mail from Lawyers

Thursday, November 03, 2011
New Head of Guantánamo Prison Orders Guards to Begin Reading Mail from Lawyers

Since taking command of Guantánamo Bay, Rear Admiral David Woods has ordered prison guards to read all mail for detainees, including correspondence from their lawyers which is supposed to be protected under attorney-client privilege.

Woods decided to change the long-standing policy to allow inspection of all communications deemed relevant to military commission cases.

Nine attorneys representing detainees wrote a letter to William Lietzau, deputy assistant secretary of defense for rule of law and detainee policy, to object to the opening of their mail to clients. They requested the Pentagon to order Woods to “cease and desist the seizure, opening, translating, reading and reviewing of attorney-client privileged communications.”

Previously, guards opened the mail in the presence of detainees to ensure there was no contraband in the envelopes, and then handed it to them without reading the contents.

I'm not sure where this Guantanamo place is located, but clearly the U.S. should invade them immediately in order to bring them democracy.