Okay, i did, nice
Heinberg is good, Al Bartlett is better, best is the current reality..

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DrVolin wrote:I recently went to a degrowth conference here. I wasn't impressed. ..
I know what yr saying & it needs to be said, but there are other clans of powerdowners, e.g. permablitz.net & WWOOFers. I've been to a few permablitzs and have met many woofers and haven't seen any corpulent professionalism or merely symbolic faith.
On degrowth - it is nice to think that we
could do it, live sustainably within the natural limits of this planet, that it is physically/practically possible, leaving aside all that untidy human behaviour stuff. But nice isn't rigorous - one has to check for disproofs..
Can Renewable Energy Sustain Consumer Societies? A Negative Case (pdf)Ted Trainer has been writing similar for decades, it is interesting how invisible his gloomy message is compared to the hopium of Transition Towns. I'm no enemy of TT, any step in the right direction is a good one, but .. when are we going to get real?
"Wintler2, you are a disgusting example of a human being, the worst kind in existence on God's Earth. This is not just my personal judgement.." BenD
Research question: are all god botherers authoritarians?