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Postby Hunter » Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:05 pm

I was a lifelong friend of Mr. Marshall, we went to High School together in Mandeville La. We have been in contact over the years and he is the last person to commit suicide much less kill the children he adored. Right now it is being spun that he was despondent over his divorce or money problems even bringing up the altercation he had with his wife’s sister to show he was somehow unbalanced.. He was separated from his wife for years and if I am correct his divorce was finalized. He never wore a wedding ring and dated other women. His exwife lived in Murphys away from the subdivision he lived in. They found his wedding ring sitting on top of the bullets for the glock making it look like he took it off before he shot his kids and himself. To me this is the tell. This is obviously a hit. Also he was on medical disability from United and was not hurting for money. I was last with him in late December to watch a Saints game with him at my home and he was great. He was telling me that I would not believe what would be in his next book concerning 9/11. I guess he was right. The fool that killed this man and his kids obviously did not know him very well.
http://www.santabarbaraview.com/phillip-marshall-wrote-about-a-conspiracy-was-he-victim-of-one4254252/

Before this tragedy happened I was also one of those who followed the principle of “Occams Razor” in that the simplest explanation is the most accurate. At face value this looks like a murder-suicide. However those that really knew this man know that there is more to this story. He had been separated from his wife for several years and he was trying to help her get a import business going which is why she was out of touch in Turkey. She was using his flight privleges as a United pilot to fly to Turkey at litlle or no cost. He had been supporting her during this separation period and saw this as a way for her to get on her feet be independent so he would not have to continually support her. Before their marriage she was a skilled buyer for Nordstrom and he was encouraging her to use this skill. Also I noticed in one of the comments that “the final control over the wife he lost control over”. Again anyone that knew this man would know that the very last thing he cared was having control over people. He was a loving parent that was guiding his kids never controlling. He was an accomplished pilot who was joe cool the one you want flying your plane because he would not get excited in emergency situations.

As for the ring on the bullets that I mentioned above this was told to Phil’s family by the sheriffs office. To them it looks like murder suicide. I unfortunately had to tell my young daughter about this and it was very sad. When I told her about the ring on the bullets even she realized that he never wore his ring. She last saw Phil with his wife when she was about 3 or 4 she is now 11.

Because of human nature being what it is I do not believe this will be further investigated. Also I will not be making any motions for a investigation of this also. I believe he was killed and maybe it was for the 9/11 research he was doing. I am not willing to put my family or myself in harms way. Sorry but I also will not be contacting anyone online about this for the same reason.

I could go on and on about why he did not do this. In the end I have lost a lifelong friend who was a really great guy. Unfortunately people will not know this. I will miss him.
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Re: "Big Bamboozle" 9/11 Truth Author And Family Found Dead

Postby Iamwhomiam » Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:42 pm

I having a real problem with this: "I unfortunately had to tell my young daughter about this and it was very sad. When I told her about the ring on the bullets even she realized that he never wore his ring. She last saw Phil with his wife when she was about 3 or 4 she is now 11."

First, I don't believe for a moment that he "had" to tell his 11 year-old daughter about this incident. He told her because he wanted to. She would not have otherwise known about the incident had he not told her about it, so it was indeed unfortunate he chose poorly to share this horror with her. and how on earth would a girl of 3 or 4 remember anything about whether he wore his ring or didn't some seven or eight years later. And then, when she was 3 or 4 the last time she saw this man, he was still married and most likely then wearing his ring.

Do we have here yet another individual displaying the tell-tale wannabe six degrees of separation to a mass murderer syndrome? Plainly put, is he a fraud?

I was buyin it up to that point.
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Re: "Big Bamboozle" 9/11 Truth Author And Family Found Dead

Postby Hunter » Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:54 pm

Good questions, I sort of took this "She last saw Phil with his wife when she was 3 or 4..." to mean that was the last time she saw THEM TOGETHER but has since seen him many times without his wife and he never wore the ring?

Maybe? I dont know just a guess.
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Re: "Big Bamboozle" 9/11 Truth Author And Family Found Dead

Postby FourthBase » Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:56 pm

Iamwhomiam wrote:I having a real problem with this: "I unfortunately had to tell my young daughter about this and it was very sad. When I told her about the ring on the bullets even she realized that he never wore his ring. She last saw Phil with his wife when she was about 3 or 4 she is now 11."

First, I don't believe for a moment that he "had" to tell his 11 year-old daughter about this incident. He told her because he wanted to. She would not have otherwise known about the incident had he not told her about it, so it was indeed unfortunate he chose poorly to share this horror with her. and how on earth would a girl of 3 or 4 remember anything about whether he wore his ring or didn't some seven or eight years later. And then, when she was 3 or 4 the last time she saw this man, he was still married and most likely then wearing his ring.

Do we have here yet another individual displaying the tell-tale wannabe six degrees of separation to a mass murderer syndrome? Plainly put, is he a fraud?

I was buyin it up to that point.


Reading comprehension fail? "She last saw Phil with his wife..."

Marshall had been at this guy's home in December to watch a game. Guessing the daughter, being only 11, was still residing in her father's house at the time, and must have known Marshall. Don't see what is inappropriate about telling his daughter about what happened.

In fact, I had the opposite reaction after reading that, of being now utterly hair-raisingly convinced it was a hit.

I am not willing to put my family or myself in harms way.


And this is the problem. This is their leverage, perhaps their only leverage. Dispense with that attitude, and they will lose.
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Re: "Big Bamboozle" 9/11 Truth Author And Family Found Dead

Postby coffin_dodger » Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:15 pm

FourthBase wrote:And this is the problem. This is their leverage, perhaps their only leverage. Dispense with that attitude, and they will lose.


I think it's a question of the amount of people that dispense with that attitude that will enable some kind of change. We seem to be heading towards a tipping point - look at the doubts creeping in about Sandy Hook, Marshall and Dorner - in just the last month - it's not just conspiracy nutjobs that are talking about these things any more. As soon as being a 'conspiracy theorist' becomes cool, things may start to get really uncomfortable for the unaccountables.
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Postby FourthBase » Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:32 pm

The light is now on, beaming, flashing insistently.

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Re: "Big Bamboozle" 9/11 Truth Author And Family Found Dead

Postby thatsmystory » Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:28 pm

Joel Metzger is a writer for the Calaveras Enterprise. Here is the description on their website:
Welcome to the online version of the Calaveras Enterprise, a locally owned newspaper with roots in central California's Mother Lode region that extend back to 1851. The print edition is published on Tuesday and Friday mornings. As Calaveras County’s official newspaper of record in the county, the Enterprise publishes Calaveras County's legal ads and public notices in addition to all community news and sports.

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Metzger has been reporting on the story since it broke. His latest story states that Marshall may have been suffering from bipolar disorder:

Those close to the investigation of a man who killed his two teenage children before turning the gun on himself last week said the killer may have been suffering from bipolar disorder.

Friends said he was having trouble getting his medication “straightened out” in the months leading up to the shooting.

Did mental illness drive father to kill?


1)"Those close to the investigation." Way to narrow it down Metzger.

2)"may have been suffering from bipolar." Or may not have. Let's go with may have because it makes the column more newsworthy.

3)Are these unnamed friends the sources close to the investigation?

4)For good measure Metzger quotes about 20 pages of the NIMH website as if the extensive quotes somehow legitimize his poorly sourced claim that Marshall had bipolar disorder.
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Re: "Big Bamboozle" 9/11 Truth Author And Family Found Dead

Postby FourthBase » Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:26 am

Maybe I'm wrong, but 5 years ago wouldn't this thread be up to 20 or 30 or 40 pages by now? Am I overstating that? Is this just not as big a deal as I think it is? Because, to me, it seems like it should maybe be the most-examined event in RI-board history, that maybe it deserves more attention and internet-sleuthing than all other RI subjects ever combined? Am I wrong? Are more people than I think just assuming that Marshall went nuts and wiped out his kids, his dog, and himself? And if so, would it be because that assumption frees a person from having to confront a most dreadful reality, but one that a person might actually be able to do a tiny little something about, albeit at the possible risk of harm to oneself and/or family? Is it just so much easier and more comfortable to shoot the shit back and forth about other things, things that ask nothing of us personally, like jellyfish and feminism and third-rate theorizing about mass shootings, topics that are relatively safe in their abject hopelessness or subjective abstractness or inconsequential sensationalism?

Or is it just that the board has gradually become kind of dead in general and I've been away too long to have noticed?
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Postby justdrew » Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:47 am

well, if you have any ideas on how to get started let us know. Without access to his computer(s) I personally have nothing to go on.

If he had some major breakthroughs then there are other people who also have that info, hopefully they would find some way to communicate it if so.
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Re: "Big Bamboozle" 9/11 Truth Author And Family Found Dead

Postby FourthBase » Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:51 am

justdrew wrote:well, if you have any ideas on how to get started let us know. Without access to his computer(s) I personally have nothing to go on.

If he had some major breakthroughs then there are other people who also have that info, hopefully they would find some way to communicate it if so.


How about the book he wrote.
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Postby divideandconquer » Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:37 am

From: http://www.amazon.com/The-Big-Bamboo...R27IFUUXC4E6WT

"The govt. trolls are already busy trashing Marshall for "alleged" mental illness." Social engineering tends to be more successful when the sheep think everyone else buys the "official" MSM story. Anyone gullible enough to believe the "official" story obviously wouldn't have bothered to read Marshall's book anyway... so let's not pretend to actually be writing a review. Perhaps you should go back to more important stuff... like making sure your flu vaccine's up-to-date, watching NFL, NASCAR, DWTS & the Keeping up w/the Hipp'hos.

Strange how the lobotomized masses don't connect the dots: As if "Fast & Furious" didn't say enough about how far the U.S. Govt.'s willing to go for an excuse to disarm its citizens... for its central banking bosses who intend to institute global utopia. Yeah, its a stretch for Americans to ponder anything other than T.V. programs they'll watch after slaving away the day to pay "tribute" to the central banking powers that own the US Govt., but can't anyone see a pattern here? Perhaps a checklist of groups being targeted...stigmatized if you will, for disarmament... like veterans, constitutionalists, anyone ever using an SSRI... & now nut-job conspiracy theorists, (perhaps the nxt will be an apocalyptic Christian or heaven forbid, a tax protestor--for any FBI minders reading this, that wasn't intended as a suggestion!). So what do all these random targets have in common? Ever heard of "Patcon"? Recent FBI docs released in the Trentadue case through FOIA reveal "OKC" & Elohim City were part of FBI/Mossad operation Patcon... to stigmatize militias (read the transcript or listen to Trentadue's interview w/Lew Rockwell) in the minds of lobotomized Americans (i.e. those consuming diet coke while watching NFL), in prep. for disarmament & the coming police state (i.e. "coming" as in past sense, since its now here--time to wake up from your fluoride, Aspartame, GMO induced comas).

Ever ponder why the US Govt. & Mossad wld create & fund "Radical Islam" & what benefit they get out of it (hmmm.... phony "War on Terror" & "911" come to mind, + uber profits for central bankers & military industrial complex). Why is the US & Israel currently funding, training & arming communists posing as "Rebels" in Syria? Why did they fund communist "Rebels" posing as the so-called "Muslim Bro-hood" throughout the "Arab Spring"... & where did the name "Arab Spring" even originate? Ever heard of the European Spring of 1848 & the `48'ers (the same 48'ers kicked out of Europe for attempting to overthrow various govts.--who then found Marxist asylum in America & went to work in various newspapers, sowing seeds of Marxism to help Marx incite Revolution right here--in a very uncivil war). BTW, that's the same Marx who worked as a corresp. for Horace Greeley's NY Tribune--the "official newspaper" of the Republican Party--founded on the very "un-American" principles of highly Centralized Fedl. Govt. or anti-Jeffersonian principles of elitist Hamiltonian Federalism (i.e. the same principles espoused in Marx's Manifesto). These same 48er's then went to work for Marx's fave. President, Lincoln, raping pillaging & marauding all over the South, while serving the Union in its very uncivil war to suppress the U.S. Constitution & its campaign to erect a new unconstitutional form of govt. alien to the one formed by the founders.

Who were the 48ers...& who were the majority of commies in Europe in the 1800's? The majority were from a particular religious background w/a knack for funding communism--& they're not Muslim)! The most import. question is why the main financial supporters of commies are almost exclusively from this religious background--that's again far from Muslim, yet it's the same group that claims to be threatened by "Radical Islam"? Here's a clue, it's the ONLY group that actually benefits from the "War on Terror" & BTW it's not the group of clueless patsies who actually live in Israel--it's the group that doesn't live there but FUNDS the madness. Ever wonder why Christians are ignorant of the fact Sharia actually comes from the Hebrew Bible (i.e. 1st 5 books/Torah)... & Jewish law called Halakhah, based on the Pharisees' "Oral Law," is far WORSE than Sharia--basically like Sharia on steroids?

What possible benefit could the US, ISRAEL & Central Bankers that control both get from funding "Radical Islam" throughout the Middle East (hmmm... perhaps WWIII to precipitate GLOBAL disarmament... think "Patcon" on a global scale, where they make lots of $$ fomenting war to disarm the slaves... & the war they create facilitates the creation of U.N. Utopia a/k/a the global police state necessary to keep the slaves subdued & oppressed in inescapable peonage to the New Central Banking Order). Marshall was on the right track about the Saudis--but stopped short of exposing the whole truth behind 911. Saudi Arabia was just a front to hide the real wizard behind the curtain... kind of like the Muslim Brotherhood's just a front for Israel's backers: The same International Banking Cabal that has the entire world poised on the precipice of global collapse (i.e. the same cabal that owns the Fedl Resrv. & gives marching orders to the US govt.). If you want the real truth behind where this originated, who started it, & where this is going, look no further than Douglas Reed's The Controversy of Zion, then reflect on words of the worlds most infamous revolutionary crucified for exposing the awful truth about of the Synagogue of Satan.

FYI, killing the dog was a dead give away this was a "hit"--1st thing an intruder w/a silencer would do is take out the dog--to keep the family from being alerted what was going down. The houses in this neighborhood r purportedly very close together & neighbors didn't hear anything (out of 4 gunshots!). The 2 kids were both asleep on the couch when shot meaning the last 1 shot was still asleep & didn't try to run w/all the commotion(i.e. likely more than one perp.), + all killed w/1 gunshot to the head & Marshall was found face up with gun behind his back (explain that one). Many gunshots in the head don't even result in death... so it would seem the shooter(s) knew what they were doing (i.e. professionals w/silencers?)... & from statements made by alleged friends, Marshall didn't fit that descript. at all--esp. since a friend said he'd admitted to not even having bullets for his gun. Doesn't sound like he hung out the local gun rage... "

Past history suggests that shadow government operatives would have few qualms about including young children or teenagers in their wetwork if they felt it was required. Anyway, this is a horribly depressing story.
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Re: "Big Bamboozle" 9/11 Truth Author And Family Found Dead

Postby thatsmystory » Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:59 am

Commentary?

1)It's funny how the "it's an op bro" crowd never cared about Marshall's work because he was "limited hangout guy."

"The Saudis? Fuck you CIA man. Building 7!"

2)We need to hear from his estranged wife. But considering the circumstances she might never comment publicly. By that I mean she was in Turkey and got a call telling her that her children and soon to be ex-husband were dead. That is not something she is likely to process anytime soon.

3)The media in the US is held to a pathetic standard of conduct. They should feel nothing but shame because Marshall did their job. Instead they self righteously mock him for failing to buy their line of authoritarian cheerleading. Hey media dickheads it isn't impressive for you to make fun of Marshall for trying to understand why almost 3,000 people were murdered. Respecting the victims doesn't mean turning your back on them in some bizarre display of allegiance to CIA bullshit.
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Postby barracuda » Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:08 am

divideandconquer wrote:From: http://www.amazon.com/The-Big-Bamboo...R27IFUUXC4E6WT

"The govt. trolls are already busy trashing Marshall for "alleged" mental illness." Social engineering tends to be more successful when the sheep think everyone else buys the "official" MSM story. Anyone gullible enough to believe the "official" story obviously wouldn't have bothered to read Marshall's book anyway... so let's not pretend to actually be writing a review. Perhaps you should go back to more important stuff... like making sure your flu vaccine's up-to-date, watching NFL, NASCAR, DWTS & the Keeping up w/the Hipp'hos.

Strange how the lobotomized masses don't connect the dots: As if "Fast & Furious" didn't say enough about how far the U.S. Govt.'s willing to go for an excuse to disarm its citizens... for its central banking bosses who intend to institute global utopia. Yeah, its a stretch for Americans to ponder anything other than T.V. programs they'll watch after slaving away the day to pay "tribute" to the central banking powers that own the US Govt., but can't anyone see a pattern here? Perhaps a checklist of groups being targeted...stigmatized if you will, for disarmament... like veterans, constitutionalists, anyone ever using an SSRI... & now nut-job conspiracy theorists, (perhaps the nxt will be an apocalyptic Christian or heaven forbid, a tax protestor--for any FBI minders reading this, that wasn't intended as a suggestion!). So what do all these random targets have in common? Ever heard of "Patcon"? Recent FBI docs released in the Trentadue case through FOIA reveal "OKC" & Elohim City were part of FBI/Mossad operation Patcon... to stigmatize militias (read the transcript or listen to Trentadue's interview w/Lew Rockwell) in the minds of lobotomized Americans (i.e. those consuming diet coke while watching NFL), in prep. for disarmament & the coming police state (i.e. "coming" as in past sense, since its now here--time to wake up from your fluoride, Aspartame, GMO induced comas).

Ever ponder why the US Govt. & Mossad wld create & fund "Radical Islam" & what benefit they get out of it (hmmm.... phony "War on Terror" & "911" come to mind, + uber profits for central bankers & military industrial complex). Why is the US & Israel currently funding, training & arming communists posing as "Rebels" in Syria? Why did they fund communist "Rebels" posing as the so-called "Muslim Bro-hood" throughout the "Arab Spring"... & where did the name "Arab Spring" even originate? Ever heard of the European Spring of 1848 & the `48'ers (the same 48'ers kicked out of Europe for attempting to overthrow various govts.--who then found Marxist asylum in America & went to work in various newspapers, sowing seeds of Marxism to help Marx incite Revolution right here--in a very uncivil war). BTW, that's the same Marx who worked as a corresp. for Horace Greeley's NY Tribune--the "official newspaper" of the Republican Party--founded on the very "un-American" principles of highly Centralized Fedl. Govt. or anti-Jeffersonian principles of elitist Hamiltonian Federalism (i.e. the same principles espoused in Marx's Manifesto). These same 48er's then went to work for Marx's fave. President, Lincoln, raping pillaging & marauding all over the South, while serving the Union in its very uncivil war to suppress the U.S. Constitution & its campaign to erect a new unconstitutional form of govt. alien to the one formed by the founders.

Who were the 48ers...& who were the majority of commies in Europe in the 1800's? The majority were from a particular religious background w/a knack for funding communism--& they're not Muslim)! The most import. question is why the main financial supporters of commies are almost exclusively from this religious background--that's again far from Muslim, yet it's the same group that claims to be threatened by "Radical Islam"? Here's a clue, it's the ONLY group that actually benefits from the "War on Terror" & BTW it's not the group of clueless patsies who actually live in Israel--it's the group that doesn't live there but FUNDS the madness. Ever wonder why Christians are ignorant of the fact Sharia actually comes from the Hebrew Bible (i.e. 1st 5 books/Torah)... & Jewish law called Halakhah, based on the Pharisees' "Oral Law," is far WORSE than Sharia--basically like Sharia on steroids?

What possible benefit could the US, ISRAEL & Central Bankers that control both get from funding "Radical Islam" throughout the Middle East (hmmm... perhaps WWIII to precipitate GLOBAL disarmament... think "Patcon" on a global scale, where they make lots of $$ fomenting war to disarm the slaves... & the war they create facilitates the creation of U.N. Utopia a/k/a the global police state necessary to keep the slaves subdued & oppressed in inescapable peonage to the New Central Banking Order). Marshall was on the right track about the Saudis--but stopped short of exposing the whole truth behind 911. Saudi Arabia was just a front to hide the real wizard behind the curtain... kind of like the Muslim Brotherhood's just a front for Israel's backers: The same International Banking Cabal that has the entire world poised on the precipice of global collapse (i.e. the same cabal that owns the Fedl Resrv. & gives marching orders to the US govt.). If you want the real truth behind where this originated, who started it, & where this is going, look no further than Douglas Reed's The Controversy of Zion, then reflect on words of the worlds most infamous revolutionary crucified for exposing the awful truth about of the Synagogue of Satan.

FYI, killing the dog was a dead give away this was a "hit"--1st thing an intruder w/a silencer would do is take out the dog--to keep the family from being alerted what was going down. The houses in this neighborhood r purportedly very close together & neighbors didn't hear anything (out of 4 gunshots!). The 2 kids were both asleep on the couch when shot meaning the last 1 shot was still asleep & didn't try to run w/all the commotion(i.e. likely more than one perp.), + all killed w/1 gunshot to the head & Marshall was found face up with gun behind his back (explain that one). Many gunshots in the head don't even result in death... so it would seem the shooter(s) knew what they were doing (i.e. professionals w/silencers?)... & from statements made by alleged friends, Marshall didn't fit that descript. at all--esp. since a friend said he'd admitted to not even having bullets for his gun. Doesn't sound like he hung out the local gun rage... "

Past history suggests that shadow government operatives would have few qualms about including young children or teenagers in their wetwork if they felt it was required. Anyway, this is a horribly depressing story.


What horseshit. I can only vainly hope that gentleman doesn't own a gun.

Also - the neighbors did report hearing something:

Jeff Woods, who lives directly across the street from Marshall, said he did hear strange noises late Friday night while he worked in his downstairs office.

“I was working with the television on in the background when I heard an unusual noise,” Woods said. “I stopped working and went upstairs, turned the lights on and looked around. I didn’t hear anything else, so I went back downstairs. Not too long after that, I heard another strange noise. I muted the television and listened for a second without hearing anything else.”
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Postby barracuda » Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:11 am

thatsmystory wrote:1)It's funny how the "it's an op bro" crowd never cared about Marshall's work because he was "limited hangout guy."


That's a fact. Marshall was clear that his expertise as a big jet pilot told him that the attacks were physically possible, and that they were trained for by the hijackers. And, in his opinion, the planes alone caused the collapses. So no wonder no one bought his book - it lacked the glamor of CD.

Maybe he was whacked just to throw everyone off the scent. Switcheroo.

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Postby Hunter » Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:24 am

I am with Marshall and that camp all the way, never questioned that the planes did hit the buildings and likely caused the collapse, the big question IMO, that got lost, on purpose I am sure, in all the BS about holograms and missiles and no planes etc, was, who trained the hijackers, who funded the operation and who was the mastermind of it as well as what the ultimate purpose of it. These were the questions many were asking right off the bat but those questions got drowned out quickly by the truther movement and their bullhorns. Which in turn always made me ask wrt the truther movement, the same questions I aksed of the hijackers: WHO TRAINED THEM, FUNDED THEM, WAS BEHIND THEM and what was THEIR ULTIMATE PURPOSE...
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