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Psychic kids.

Postby slimmouse » Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:51 pm

Just recieved the following excerpt via Email, and thought Id post on here for review or observations, for anyone interested.<br><br><br>from /The Ancient Secret of the Flower of Life,<br> Volume II/, by Drunvalo Melchizedek<br><br>*The superpsychic children are perhaps the most unusual and charismatic race being born today. Their dramatic abilities distinguish them from the other two races with their sensational demonstrations.<br> <br> These children are able to do things that most people thought could be done only in movies with computer graphics. What is so amazing of all is that it is real. If these children don't change our world, nothing will. <br><br> Notice how some of the abilities of these children resemble the manifestations of consciousness we talked about in chapter 18, during the dimensional shift. What you think is what you get! These children are able to demonstrate that whatever they think becomes reality.*<br><br>*Paul Dong and Thomas E. Raffill wrote /China's Super Psychics/. It reports what has been transpiring in China around these new psychic children who have begun to emerge since 1974 with the young boy who could see with his ears. Actually, the Chinese government claims that <br>these children, when blindfolded, could see either with their ears, nose, mouth, tongue, armpits, hands or feet. Each child was different and their vision from these unheard-of areas was perfect. These tests were not just a percentage right some of the time; they were flawless.*<br><br>*I first spoke about these children in 1985 when I mentioned the article about them in /Omni/ magazine. /Omni/ was invited to come to China to observe some of these children and write an article about them. /Omni/ assumed that there might be cheating involved, so when they were given some of these children to test, they conducted their examinations in a <br>way that ruled out any possible cheating. They left nothing to chance.*<br><br>*One of the tests began this way: With the children present, /Omni/ took a stack of books and at random selected one of them, then opened the book at random and ripped out a page, crumpling it up into a small ball. /Omni/ then placed it in the armpit of one of these children -- and this child could read every word on the page perfectly! After many varied test, /Omni/ became convinced that the phenomenon was real, but they could not explain how these kids were doing it. Their report was released in their January 1985 issue.*<br><br>*But /Omni/ was not the only one to send researchers to observe these children. Several other world magazines and also papers in respected journals such as /Nature/, a prestigious science magazine, have also agreed that this phenomenon is real.*<br><br>*In Mexico City we found exactly the same new human traits emerging in the children there. There may be more, but we found over 1000 children able to see with various parts of their bodies. What is noticeable is that these Mexican children can see with the very same parts of the body as the Chinese children do. It sounds like this DNA mutation has jumped <br>across the ocean just as in the hundredth-monkey phenomenon. Soon I will come back to one of these children, now nineteen, to give my direct experience of the abilities she demonstrated to us.*<br><br>*According to Paul Dong in China's Super Psychics, seeing with various parts of the body was the psychic ability that caught the attention of the Chinese government, but this ability was quickly understood to be only the tip of the iceberg. These children began to demonstrate other <br>psychic abilities that are truly difficult to accept inside this <br>''normal'' reality.*<br><br>*Mr. Dong reports how several times a large audience of a thousand people or more would enter the auditorium and be handed a live rosebud. When everyone was seated and quiet, the demonstration would begin with a young Chinese girl, about six years old, who would come on stage all by <br>herself and stand in the center facing the audience. Then with a silent wave of her hand, the thousand rosebuds would slowly open into full-blown, beautiful roses before the eyes of the astonished audience.*<br><br>*Mr. Dong also speaks of how over 5000 young children have demonstrated in public another amazing feat. Realize here that the Chinese government has carefully tested these children to see if what I am about to say is real or not. The government is convinced it is true.*<br><br>*One child would take a sealed bottle of pills off a shelf at random, like vitamin pills, for example. The bottle would be sealed with the original plastic wrap and have a tightly screwed metal or plastic top. The bottle would then be placed in the center of a large bare table. Then a video camera would observe what happened next.*<br><br>*The child would say to the audience that he/she was beginning, but nothing was visible to the audience. Suddenly, the pills inside the sealed bottle would pass right through the glass and appear on the table. In many cases, the child would then take another object, such as a coin, set it on the table, and it would pass into the sealed bottle. <br><br>This demonstration and others like it are definitely approaching what I would call fourth-dimensional consciousness. /What you think and what happens are connected./*<br><br>*There are several other psychic abilities that have been demonstrated in China, according to this book. If you are interested, read what has been reported. You may think that this is just magic tricks, but when you see these things in person, it is very hard to explain. For the first ten years the Chinese government would not believe it either, until the number of these children who could do these things kept <br>growing. By the time China's Super Psychics was released in 1997, the Chinese government had identified over 100,000 of these children. In fact, by about 1985, the government and the Chinese scientific community simply had to admit it was true.*<br><br>*Because they realized what this could mean, the government set up training schools to assist these children in their psychic abilities. Whenever a psychic child is found now, he or she is sent to one of these schools. Important is the fact that they have found that they can even take children who are not known to be psychics and in the presence of <br>the naturally psychic kids, the trained children can perform the same wonderful feats.*<br><br>*This brings forth the memory of Uri Geller, the famous psychic from Israel who could bend metal objects just by looking at them. In his book, /Uri Geller, My Story/, he talks about when he demonstrated his psychic abilities on television throughout Europe. He went on TV and asked people to get knives, spoons and forks and place them in front of <br>the television set. With millions of witnesses, he then bent tableware before their eyes and tableware in the homes in Europe who were watching the show. This single act had an interesting side effect. From the phone calls immediately after the show and the following days, it was discovered that over 1500 children were able to do the same thing just <br>by seeing it happen one time. They could all bend the metal tableware with their minds.*<br><br>*People, especially scientists, were convinced that Mr. Geller was a magician and that everything he did was a trick of some kind. Stanford Research Institute asked if he would submit his magic to scientific scrutiny. Mr. Geller agreed. For a period of time Mr. Geller did whatever Stanford asked him to do to prove once and for all that his psychic ability was not a trick.*<br><br>*Just to give you an idea of how tight the testing at Stanford was, one of the tests placed Mr. Geller in a sealed steel room, which was also a Faraday cage (a room where electromagnetic fields, such as radio waves and even brain waves or thoughts, could not pass through the walls). He was sealed in physically as well as energywise. The Stanford researchers placed outside the test chamber a sealed, hand-blown glass tube that was twisted on each end so that it could not be opened without breaking it. Inside it was a piece of the hardest metal known to man. Then they told <br>Mr. Geller to bend it. With all their scientific instruments recording the test, Stanford scientists watched in total amazement as the piece of superhard metal bent as if it were Jell-O. Mr. Geller could in no way have cheated.*<br><br>*What is so impressive is that besides Mr. Geller, there were about 15 children from Europe who could also do these things, and they were tested along with him. Everything that Stanford did to test Mr. Geller they also did with the children, and these kids could do everything he could do. So if this was a trick, then 15 children were also ''advanced magicians,'' and Stanford Research Institute, with all their scientific magic, could not detect fraud.*<br><br>*This test and the rest of the research from Stanford was printed in /Nature/ magazine in its October 1974 issue. The New York /Times/ immediately came out with an editorial that said: ''The scientific community has been put on notice 'that there is something worthy of their attention and scrutiny' in the possibilities of extrasensory perception.'' Yet here we are in the next millennium, and science still will not seriously admit that the human potential for psychic abilities is real. I believe that these new children appearing around the world <br>will soon force science into accepting what has always been true. The old pagadigm has nowhere to go and must dissolve.*<br><br>*In Denver, Colorado, in July 1999, I spoke about these new children to a large audience. I asked a young woman named Inge Bardor from Mexico to demonstrate directly to this audience her ability to see with her hands and feet. At that time she was eighteen years old. For about an hour, Inge placed a blindfold around her eyes and accepted photographs at random from the audience. She would hold the photograph and lightly touch it with the fingertips of her other hand.*<br><br>*First she would describe the picture perfectly, as though she was looking at it, but then she would become more specific, giving information that would be impossible for her to know even from a photo. She could tell everything about the people or place in the photo. She could tell exactly where the photo was taken and what was around the area outside the view, such as a lake or buildings.*<br><br>*Inge could even describe the person who took the photograph and what he/she was wearing that day. She could tell you what everyone in the photo was thinking at the moment the picture was taken. In one photo of the inside of a house, Inge went into the house psychically and described exactly what was down the hallway. She even described what was on the bedside table.*<br><br>*Finally someone placed a newspaper under Inge's feet, and with her high-heeled shoes on, she was able to read the paper as if it was in her hands and she wasn't blindfolded. (If you are interested in this video, please call Lightworks Video at 1-800-795-TAPE and ask for /Through the Eyes of a Child./)*<br><br>*Under the strict discipline of scientific research, the Chinese <br>government has observed these children changing the human DNA molecule in a petri dish before cameras and scientific equipment necessary to record this supposedly impossible feat. If this is true, which the Chinese government claims, would we not be able to change our own DNA with just the right understanding? I think so. Just follow the children.*<br><br>*How is it possible that 60 million people in the world have already changed their DNA to drastically improve their immune systems against HIV infection through spontaneous genetic mutation, if not through a process similar to what our new children of China have demonstrated? This is a grand time in the history of the Earth -- and you are alive to experience this extraordinary world change!*<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Psychic kids.

Postby marykmusic » Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:12 pm

I'll talk about Psychic Kids later, after Boy Scout meeting.<br><br>Our closest friend is a former business associate of Drunvalo (not his real name, either) and so I know more of the inside story on him. Multi-millionnaire, makes his money off unsuspecting, good hearted people. Bad dude. --MaryK <p></p><i></i>
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got to say that

Postby glubglubglub » Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:43 pm

the content of the above does really leave me wondering: where are they now? in regards to these kids. Plus, taking such an over-the-top name isn't helping matters, either. Am looking forward to Ms. K Music's explanation. <p></p><i></i>
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Psychic armpits

Postby Avalon » Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:33 pm

Uh, if they are actually psychic, what relevance does all this mention of their hands and feet and armpits have to do with it?<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Postby glubglubglub » Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:47 pm

apparently their psychic abilities don't extend all that far past the body ( <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> ), ergo they need to be touching the object they're psychically reconnoitering. IMHO, that's a good way to defraud an audience -- the usual slight of hand works better if you have physical access to the objects in question. Waiting for Ms. Music to spill the goods here. <p></p><i></i>
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hhhh

Postby Homeless Halo » Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:54 pm

Don't trust Drunvalo, he isn't a real Melchizadekean. The scary part is that 90% of his information is based on actual old religious insight, the other 10% he just made up, and if you aren't already familiar with the territory, he can lead you very far astray with that 10 percent.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: hhhh

Postby marykmusic » Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:49 am

He makes bunches of money for that information, too, and unfortunately he has many kind, well-meaning people who think the world of him. He can get them to do his bidding, tell them "it's for the Light" and have folks doing the Dark Side's work with a clean conscience. This is VERY effective!<br><br>No matter how much money you give Drunvalo, he will never lead you to the path of personal empowerment. You'll always be dependent on him for the next step in enlightenment. It's parasitical.<br><br>A true spiritual leader helps people to become independent of him/her. It isn't about having someone relying on another for continued development.<br><br>It's either S-T-S or S-T-O: Service to Self, or Service to Others. Can't be both.<br><br>And his real name is Bernard something. Just bought another big house in Sedona, about 20 miles east of here, and where the highest per-capita concentration of millionaires in the US lives. He didn't get rich from S-T-O. --MaryK <p></p><i></i>
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Re: hhhh

Postby professorpan » Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:51 am

Ditto others' remarks about Drunvalo. I also know someone who was tight with him, and that person claims he's a manipulative, lying bastard. <br><br>Re: the claims of psychic children:<br><br>As someone who has performed as a mentalist, I have bent silverware a la Uri Geller, caused forks to move across a table without touching them, pulled words and thoughts out of people's minds, read the colors of playing cards by touch (while blindfolded), and predicted what was going to be on the cover of a newspaper days in advance.<br><br>Scientists are like anyone else -- if they don't know what's being done in front of their faces, they can be fooled.<br><br>At the same time, I have seen and experienced psychic phenomena and I'm far from a Randi-esque skeptic/debunker. Once, when I was performing at a corporate function, things didn't go as I planned, and I was forced to guess the name of a friend a randomly selected audience member was thinking of. I guessed a very odd name, and it was correct. The audience applauded, but I was *much* more impressed with myself than they were!<br><br>Uri Geller is not as cut and dried as many think. I know he has used trickery frequently (he has been caught on tape), yet I also believe he has exhibited unusual abilities from time to time. While most magicians are rabid skeptics (Randi and Penn Jillette are the obvious examples), I have met plenty of mentalists who believe in psi.<br><br>I caution people that magic and mentalism can fool even the most attentive. At the same time, just because something *can* be duplicated by magic doesn't mean what you're seeing is always a trick.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Postby Homeless Halo » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:00 am

You've been a mentalist? <br><br>Were you a "union" member?<br><br>Fascinating. I have stage training as an illusionist, it is possible that my interest in the occult began there, or perhaps, in church.<br><br>I can second the notion that it was my individual, personal experiences with "supernatural" phenomenon and/or religious conversion that led me from my mechanistic skepticism (sort of).<br><br>My recent past interest has been mostly in the collecting and reconstructing of various declassified military psych programs whose experiments I am attempting to recreate. It is difficult to work with "redacted" notes, but its easier than trying to do it on your own. Combining the occultist/paranormalist studies/interpretations of such phenomena with the military applications has, so far, proven to be exceedingly useful. Who knows, maybe someday I'll have enough material to do something with it.<br><br>pardon my being forward but, pan, are you invisible? <p></p><i></i>
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kids

Postby mother » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:21 am

But they are "psychic" every one of them. They know everything, sense everthing; they can find anything, they can distinguish identical objects, zero into one's weakness and know all sorts of beautiful, mysterious things, things without words. They know where the sweets are hidden, and they know if monsters are coming. Too bad we'll never be rich in Sedona.. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby Homeless Halo » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:26 am

Dogs can do that too. <p></p><i></i>
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dogs

Postby mother » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:41 am

Halo it's true about dogs. They can also tell if you really, really need a friend in the world and protect us in a way which would not be fair to ask of a little child. And dogs won't repeat all the embarrassing stuff they know about you to a soul, whereas well, you know the kids can always grow up and write an hideous expose or make a movie based on what they observed when you thought they were busy doing something; they also have dual-special observation/memory apparatus. And they know what dogs are thinking, yet can be gently persuaded not to be dogs. <p></p><i></i>
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Meanwhile, back at the topic

Postby marykmusic » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:53 am

My boys are VERY psychic. They see energy of various kinds (the younger one was telling me about the ghosts he saw after moving here, and later we were told that the building in question had been a funeral home for more than a half-century.) Both are my teachers in this way; my abilities were suppressed by things like "Nice girls don't talk to animals" and childhood vaccinations (we stopped giving them shots fairly early.) They have a cousin or two that I know have similar abilities.<br><br>Okay, so back to Drunvalo... read this essay by my brother. That name comes up repeatedly. <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://educate-yourself.org/dc/disinfoweapon23oct05.shtml" target="top">educate-yourself.org/dc/disinfoweapon23oct05.shtml</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> --MaryK<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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H. Halo

Postby robertdreed » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:44 am

Are you an undergrad or a grad student? What's your major academic emphasis? <p></p><i></i>
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Postby Homeless Halo » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:52 am

ug: clinical psychologoy and/or experimental neuroscience (I'm taking lots of classes so I can double up and get my electrophysics degree, which would make it easier to do lots of things, and will only add about 1 1/2 yr total).<br><br>I like lots of other things besides, but mostly I'm interested in consciousness itself, and its spangles.<br><br>and then there are those things.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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