phuck the JJverse

[RocketMan]

Yeah... I like JJ Abrams a lot, and I'm very much looking forward to the next Star Trek and Star Wars.

And I've been a HUGE fan of both, from the very beginning.

Have a nice day.

Phew, I'm with you Simulist. The beginning of the thread sure was rough going.

That said, the "terrorist with a complicated revenge scheme if it even is a revenge scheme" is a pretty well worn device................

[Simulist]

Love the lens flares in the Musical.

[beeline]

Yeah... I like JJ Abrams a lot, and I'm very much looking forward to the next Star Trek and Star Wars.

And I've been a HUGE fan of both, from the very beginning.

Have a nice day.

+1

[Simulist]

It was outstanding. We took in the very first showing of Star Trek: Into Darkness in 3-D today, and it was almost certainly the best Trek I've ever seen (including 1982's The Wrath of Khan and 1996's First Contact).

Gripping story, talented cast (including Benedict Cumberbatch, who was excellent), moving score, plenty of Easter eggs for longtime fans (and a few furtive winks to Star Wars fans, too), and great fun from start to finish.

Highly recommended. If you can see it in 3-D where you are, then you should.

[DrVolin]

I don't like comic relief. I don't mind exaggeration, but it still has to be within the realm of the possible. In the first JJ Trek, I was severely put out by the fact that they put the cadets in command of the flagship, and the Scotty transports into the unaccountable water tube thingies finished killing it for me. I like Space 1999 first season, where no one laughs in space. Dragon's Domain is part of who I am. I'll see this new Trek because I have to, not because I want to.

[Simulist]

I don't mind exaggeration, but it still has to be within the realm of the possible. In the first JJ Trek, I was severely put out by the fact that they put the cadets in command of the flagship, and the Scotty transports into the unaccountable water tube thingies finished killing it for me.

I actually agree with your assessment on the impossibilities in the first film.* So much so, in fact, that I really, thoroughly enjoyed this critique of some of them:



And yet, I still enjoyed the first film. A lot. And I can agree with much of the critique, all at the same time.

I don't like comic relief.

But then, one of the reasons I enjoyed that critique is because I also like to laugh. So, yeah... I do enjoy humor and good comic relief. Go figure.

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* Of course, when I get into my über-analytical mode, suddenly warp drive starts seeming pretty impossible, too. And then.... Jeeze... I start thinking about the price of movie tickets — and those concessions! Talk about the "impossible." I submit that if, forty years ago, I had told people that a single ticket would be $11.00 and that one Coke at the concession stand would cost $5.00 — and that people would actually pay these prices, they'd have told me that they "don't mind exaggeration," but that it "still has to be within the realm of the possible."

[justdrew]

welp, they did a hell of a stealth marketing campaign, because it was not at all what was expected.

it's actually very good, really, very good.

quibbles? The trouble with quibbles is... I can't even think of any significant enough to have noticed.

[RocketMan]

welp, they did a hell of a stealth marketing campaign, because it was not at all what was expected.

it's actually very good, really, very good.

quibbles? The trouble with quibbles is... I can't even think of any significant enough to have noticed.

YAY!

If anyone is unaccountably overrated IMHO, it's Damon Lindelof... Can you say "Prometheus"... retch.

[DrVolin]

So I'd say the film is about 25% excellent and 75% terrible. Very good retelling of a classic, with some well thought out but rather obvious symmetry. Some powerful moments, but also some downright pandering to in-crowd teens who are most likely nowhere near the actual audience. Too many sequences manifestly planned to be levels in the upcoming XBox game. Always such a treat to see Peter Weller make something of nothing.

[justdrew]

So I'd say the film is about 25% excellent and 75% terrible. Very good retelling of a classic, with some well thought out but rather obvious symmetry. Some powerful moments, but also some downright pandering to in-crowd teens who are most likely nowhere near the actual audience. Too many sequences manifestly planned to be levels in the upcoming XBox game. Always such a treat to see Peter Weller make something of nothing.

I was annoyed by all the platforming.

thinking about "how would this work in a game" seems to be expected of genre action movies now.

but. There are other things.

In case anyone hasn't seen these, here's a playlist with the very very very good rendition... (some original actors is a couple special episodes too). The theory they're going on is that they are doing years 4 and 5 of the 'five year mission', so they start out at "season 4"

the very first one, episode zero is a little iffy in places but it's not bad at all, by episode 1 they're producing a fine product that gets a bit better every one. Really good stuff...

[Wombaticus Rex]

Too many sequences manifestly planned to be levels in the upcoming XBox game.

Wow, you actually retroactively damaged my assessment of the film with that single sentence.

Great-looking popcorn, not as good as Wrath of Khan but way better produced.

[ShinShinKid]

Back when they used to do this shtuff right:



You mean the same man has to play the same character, all these years later?
Oh yeah,



Nothing beats Fine, Corinthian Leather...

[82_28]

Here I was about to pan it in interest of seeing The Great Gatsby tonight and now all these sparkling comments from my fellows. Everywhere else has said it didn't suck, per se, but that it overall sucked but had its good parts. You guys dig it? Well, I may as see it now.