communication with entities while ripped out of your gourd

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communication with entities while ripped out of your gourd

Postby jingofever » Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:50 am

There was a mention/discussion somewhere here about certain drugs precipitating communication with 'entities', whatever they may be. I usually read about this phenomenon occurring with DMT but it seems that it occurs in many more drugs. I found this out by searching erowid.org trip reports with the search term 'entities'. Unfortunately, erowid's search page doesn't seem advanced enough to perform a proper search of 'machine elves' or just 'elves', the term for these that Terrence McKenna coined.<br> Not all of the reports describe contact with entities but a lot do (including a report by a glue sniffer, whoda thunk it?). One interesting report involving N2O has this line:<br><br>"and as the anaesthesia deepened, I would sense entities around me, that I would describe as 'elemental', mischievous Pan-like beings that surround the gas outlet point as the faeries of old surround ancient brooks and springs"<br><br> If there were some easier way to collect this information and sort it properly, I wonder if we would see patterns in behavior of the entities. Already it seems that a common reaction is shock at seeing a human enter their realm.<br><br>Here are the relevant URLs:<br><br>erowid.org search page<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp_front.shtml">www.erowid.org/experience...ront.shtml</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Search results for 'entities'<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.cgi?S1=0&S2=-1&S3=-1&C1=-1&Str=entities">www.erowid.org/experience...r=entities</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Nitrous Oxide report<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=11625">www.erowid.org/experience...p?ID=11625</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Terrence McKenna and the Tykes

Postby BajaSur » Fri Feb 10, 2006 5:06 am

The thread 2012 is here:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm10.showMessage?topicID=2935.topic">p216.ezboard.com/frigorou...2935.topic</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>You can also Google Terrence Mckenna Tykes. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: correction

Postby jingofever » Fri Feb 10, 2006 5:48 am

I need to add that the erowid search page is in fact advanced enough to do the above mentioned searches by, oddly enough, clicking on the 'Advanced Search' link.<br>Other fruitful search terms are 'beings', 'malevolent' picks up a few, though that is biasing the sample, 'aliens', 'buzzing' seems to have some relevant results in regards to that particular aspect. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=jingofever>jingofever</A> at: 2/10/06 3:18 am<br></i>
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Re: the entities arent shocked, "they actually cheer!&q

Postby hmm » Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:13 am

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://deoxy.org/timemind.htm">deoxy.org/timemind.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>There are many of these things, but the main thing that's happening is that they are engaged in a linguistic activity of some sort, which we do not have words for, but it's visible language. They are doing the visible language trip. When you break into the space, they actually cheer! The first thing you hear when you pass across is this 'hhhyeaaaaaayyy'<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>not that i know this from personal experience..<br>but when reading the accounts on erowid.org and deoxy.org this seems the common theme,cheering "elves" that speak in visible language and...<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>And meanwhile, these things are saying: "Do not give way to amazement; Control your wonder." in other words, they try to bring you down. They say, "Don't just goof out on this; pay attention. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>PAY ATTENTION</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->... to what we're doing."<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>what to make of this?<br>it scares me.. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hmm@rigorousintuition>hmm</A> at: 2/10/06 7:14 am<br></i>
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Re: the entities arent shocked, "they actually cheer!&a

Postby JerkyLeBoeuf » Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:36 pm

Anybody here ever smoked Salvia Divinorum?<br><br>Perfectly legal, and I think I glimpsed a hound of Tindalos on it! <p></p><i></i>
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Re: the entities arent shocked, "they actually cheer!&a

Postby professorpan » Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:41 pm

Dissociatives, such as N2O and ketamine, have given rise to reports of entities. One famous example is John Lilly's experiences -- google him for references. My first encounter with such things was while under anesthesia (nitrous) -- in my case, they were normal-looking humans, a young man and woman, and they communicated with me telepathically. It was a very strange experience.<br><br>I don't think it's a matter of which drug opens a human up for the possibility of contact, but any experience that deepens or alters perception. Dreaming, fasting, drumming, meditating, chanting, sleep deprivation -- all can allow a person to approach the liminal state. <p></p><i></i>
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Here you go,nice link

Postby ivanbo2003 » Fri Feb 10, 2006 7:39 pm

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Interesting account with extras.

Postby slimmouse » Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:32 pm

<br> Thanks for the link Ivan.<br><br> I couldnt help noticing the quotes in the right hand column. This one in particular caught my eye ;<br><br> <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. ... It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> Of course, the truly Sad Mr David Rockerfeller conveniently excludes 2 easily provable assertions from his commentary.<br><br> Firstly, he conveniently neglects to mention how world bankers bleed virtually every non 'superhuman' to death - often quite literally thru starvation and war, but otherwise thru slavery to a fiscal system that is rotten to the core. Nor does he mention the fact that his 'system' neccesitates a chaos of its own amongst the majority. <br><br> Baal worshippers ( materialists ) playing God, and defying the natural laws of its creator and our creation IMO - a harmonious blend of the physical ( Baal/ lucifer - the negative) and the spiritual. <br><br> Secondly, he mentions how these guys work behind the scenes. Of course he limits such honesty to meetings of the privileged, and omits the fact that anyone who doesnt subscribe ( take the silver ) to his sad way of viewing this earth will never get their voice.<br><br> Perhaps Im just a little bitter, because I tried to access an internet radio station this evening to listen to an alternative voice in the madness ( David Icke ) and the place obviously didnt have sufficient bandwidth - which in some ways is encouraging.<br><br> <br> Money, Money, Money ( control control control ) - makes the world go round - In a downward spiral of insanity of course.<br><br> Gotta hand it to those 'visionary' bankers. And Mr Rockerfeller; youre a funny guy<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START >D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/grin.gif ALT=" >D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=slimmouse@rigorousintuition>slimmouse</A> at: 2/10/06 5:48 pm<br></i>
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Re: Interesting account with extras.

Postby ivanbo2003 » Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:27 pm

Yeah slimmouse,"to put it shortly", J.R.R. Tolkien said it all:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>"The true equation is 'democracy' = government by world financiers...The main mark of modern governments is that we do not know who governs, de facto any more than de jure. We see the politician and not his backer; still less the backer of the backer; or what is most important of all, the banker of the backer. Enthroned above all, in a manner without parallel in all past, is the veiled prophet of finance, swaying all men living by a sort of magic, and delivering oracles in a language not understanded [sic] of the people."<br>J.R.R. Tolkien, Candour Magazine, 13 July 1956, p. 12<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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nitrous makes me hallucinate

Postby nashvillebrook » Sat Feb 11, 2006 12:59 am

the couple of times i'd had it as an anesthesia were excruciating. the buzzing is wild. <br><br>had a long stint in the hospital a couple of years ago....<br><br>morphine gave me hallucinations of shiny black bugs (very naked lunch). it was a constant place i'd go to and with every dose it'd be back on a weird 'stage' with these black shiney bugs... like we were waiting to perform. or they were waiting for me to do something. i was horrified at much it took to control my pain in the first round of my illness, so maybe the hallucinations were dark b/c i feared the drug. who knows. <br><br>months later, still in the hospital, i had to go on a morphine pump and had long ago lost my fear of the drug. i hallucinated bunnies constantly. cartoonish bunnies everywhere. everyday. like wallpaper. comforting bunnies. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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