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Fresno_Layshaft » Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:34 pm wrote:Where there any revelations?
NSA GOAL - collecting 1 Billion phone calls a day
Nordic » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:42 am wrote:NSA GOAL - collecting 1 Billion phone calls a day
Remarkable considering how nobody seems to talk on the phone very much any more.
Maybe we've all been herded into texting for a reason. Probably easier to deal with for the NSA, more easily searchable, smaller file sizes .....
General News 6/29/2013 at 08:39:30
Greenwald: Every Phone Call is Recorded and Stored-- A Globalized System Designed to Destroy Privacy, includes video
By Rob Kall
Glenn Greenwald speaking to the audience via Skype, on 4 Huge Screens by Margo Rush
Glenn Greenwald, in a skyped in talk to the Socialism 2013 Conference, told the audience, for the first time, according to him, about his experience going through the process of encountering, interacting with Ed Snowden, at first anonymously, then seeing his first evidence that Snowden was the real deal. "It made me dizzy," he described.
Greenwald, who has been a regular at the conference for several years, told the audience that a bombshell he would soon be releasing was that "NSA can redirect to its storage one billion cell phone calls every thing day. They are storing every call and have the capability to listen to them... It is a globalized system designed to destroy all privacy--- with no accountabliity and no safeguards."
He described the debate about his journalism is " being led by TV actors who play the role of journalists on TV. "
Glenn discussed how the US military's banning of access to the Guardian, the paper he publishes with, at all military bases, was better than receiving a Pulitzer or any other journalism award. He cited David Halberstam, saying, "David Halberstam viewed the measure of good journalism by how much you anger the people in power."
Jeremy Scahill by Margo Rush
Greenwald was introduced by fellow investigative journalist Jeremy Scahill, who spoke before Greenwald. Scahill said, "What Glenn Greenwald has done in the past few weeks, with his reporting is to shake the foundations of power. " and, also, in Scahill's own talk, he said, "there already was a coup in this country. It happened a long time ago. It was when corporations took control."
Glenn talked at length about Edward Snowden. Here are some of the quotes from his talk. (They're from notes so some may be paraphrased. Check the video below for the verbatim wording.)
There's more to life than material comfort or career stability or trying to live as long as you can. He judged his life based on his beliefs and the actions he took in the face of those beliefs.
Snowden: Leasdership is about going first and setting an example for others.
There was never a moment, never an iota of remorse, regret or fear. This was an individual completely at peace with the choice that he'd made.
Snowden was inspired by Bradley manning.
Courage is contagious. If you take a courageous step as an individual, you will immediately effect the world because you will affect other individuals.
it doesn't matter who you are as an individual or how formidable or powerful the institutions you want to challenge are.
He is a person with zero power, zero prestige, zero privilege yet he has changed the world.
He stepped forward and made himself a target for the good of all of us.
He will set an example for other people to come forward and blow the whistle on the corrupt and illegal things.
We need to defend him and hold him up for the noble example that he is."
Here's the video of Greenwald below. This is almost an hour and worth every second. He is scathing about the mainstream media. So was Scahill. More tomorrow-- I'm on my way back to the Socialism 2013 conference. #s13 on twitter.
coffin_dodger » 29 Jun 2013 15:31 wrote:" He described the debate about his journalism as " being led by TV actors who play the role of journalists on TV. "
MONEY SHOT!
"David Halberstam viewed the measure of good journalism by how much you anger the people in power."
Maybe we've all been herded into texting for a reason.
Speaking on NSA stories, Snowden and journalism
Discussing the implications of the last four week's of articles, revelations and debates
Glenn Greenwald
guardian.co.uk, Saturday 29 June 2013 12.59 EDT
Last night, I gave my first speech on the NSA stories, Edward Snowden and related issues of journalism, delivered to the Socialism 2013 Conference in Chicago. Because it was my first speech since the episode began, it was the first time I was able to pause a moment and reflect on everything that has taken place and what the ramifications are. I was originally scheduled to speak live but was unable to travel there and thus spoke via an (incredibly crisp) Skype video connection. I was introduced by Jeremy Scahill, whose own speech is well worth watching. Those interested can view the entire speech in this recorder; below it are a few articles worth reading:
Several related items worth reading:
(1) The New York Times has an Op-Ed from Thursday by law professors Jennifer Stisa Granick and Christopher Jon Sprigman entitled "The Criminal NSA". It argues, citing recent revelations, that "it's time to call the NSA's mass surveillance programs what they are: criminal."
(2) The New York Times' excellent public editor, Margaret Sullivan, examines recent debates over who is and is not a "journalist" and provides one of the best working definitions yet. Matt Taibbi addresses the same question here. Meanwhile, former New York Times columnist Frank Rich argues that whatever "journalist" means, David Gregory doesn't qualify.
(3) Edward Snowden isn't the first NSA whistleblower of this decade. He was preceded by senior official Thomas Drake, who was unsuccessfully prosecuted by the Obama DOJ under espionage statutes and previously wrote that he saw the same things at the NSA that Snowden says prompted him to come forward. Another was William Binney, the long-time NSA mathematician who resigned in the wake of 9/11 over the NSA's domestic spying; as this article notes, the last set of documents we published regarding bulk collection of email metadata vindicates many of Binney's central warnings.
(4) A bipartisan group of 26 Senators just wrote a letter to Director of National Intelligence James Clapper demanding answers to some fairly probing questions about the administration's collection of bulk communication records on Americans, the "secret law" on which they relied, and their clearly misleading claims to Congress.
(5) It's well worth finding 9 minutes to watch this Chris Hayes discussion of how establishment journalists love leaks that serve the interests of political officials, but hate leaks that disclose what those officials want to keep suppressed. This is the heart and soul of establishment journalism - its true purpose - revealed:
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