Texas campus mass stabbing event.

[justdrew]

no right to food

no right to health care

no right to housing

no right to education

but a right to own endless lethal tools. in secret. but free to brandish.

is that really freedom ?

[compared2what?]

So...just forget I wrote anything? Nothing to see there but unicorns?

Is that addressed to me? Because I said "nobody (NOBODY) [blahblahblahblahblahblah")?

I'm sorry, FB. I meant "nobody who's in public office and in a position to wish evil guns out of existence."

I should have made it clearer that I was veering off in that direction. Apologies.

[FourthBase]

So...just forget I wrote anything? Nothing to see there but unicorns?

Is that addressed to me? Because I said "nobody (NOBODY) [blahblahblahblahblahblah")?

I'm sorry, FB. I meant "nobody who's in public office and in a position to wish evil guns out of existence."

I should have made it clearer that I was veering off in that direction. Apologies.

Oh, no, not addressed to you personally. Just that, here's another gun-control debate thread unfolding, and I propose a third way, get it called a fairy tale, reply cogently to the effect of "O RLY? Your turn!" and then...back to the same old gun control debate, nothing to discuss about FourthBase's idea, move along, carry on?

[compared2what?]

Ah.

Well. That's what you get for thinking.

...

I wish I had something of interest to add. But fwiw, I agree completely that this is the best -- and maybe only -- constructive attitude to take:

Do I "really think for a moment that that means governments are ever going to stop using guns"? It's possible. I'm not a deep-pessimism doom-fanboy. I think a lot of things are possible. It's people with my attitude who have ever brought about one goddamned good thing in this world. It's 1930. Some black guy asks another: Do you really think for a moment that governments are ever going to stop legally discriminating against blacks? It's [insert year], and some pessimist asks an optimist if he really thinks for a moment that [insert institution] will ever stop [insert bad thing], and the answer is: "Yes. Why not. It's possible."

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And honestly, at least some kind of improvement should be very possible. This*** shows all deaths-by-assault, not just firearms-related ones...



...but practically everyplace else in the world does better than the US wrt rates of violent wanton death per capita. So it's demonstrably possible.

***(LINK to original and elucidation of stats/methods, etc.)

[elfismiles]

https://www.youtube.com/results?q=sprin ... 20stabbing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPTj8YHgFJQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMPv2xaafbI


Fatality in Multiple Stabbings at School
Wednesday, September 04, 2013
http://copycateffect.blogspot.com/2013/09/SpringHS.html

One dead in Spring HS stabbing, three others injured; Threat over
ABC30.com-1 hour ago
All victims and persons of interest were students at Spring ISD. ... One victim, stabbed in the abdomen, was in critical condition at Memorial ...

HCSO: 1 killed, 3 injured in fight at Spring HS; 3 in custody
KHOU-1 hour ago
1 dead, 3 injured in stabbing at Spring High School
Houston Chronicle-1 hour ago
1 Killed, 3 Injured in Stabbing at Houston-Area High School

Published on Sep 4, 2013

A 17-year-old student was stabbed to death and three others were injured in a possible gang-related confrontation Wednesday at Spring High School in the Houston suburb of Spring, Texas, Harris County Sheriff Adrian Garcia said.

Three "persons of interest" have been taken into custody after the fight in the school cafeteria, he said. At least two were taken away in handcuffs, KTRK-TV reports.

Spring High School, which serves 3,000 students, was locked down.

Garcia said the incident occurred around 7:10 a.m. at Spring High School and "may have been gang-related." He said the incident started with a physical confrontation involving a "cutting instrument."

KPRC-TV spoke with a man who said he was the father of the 16-year-old sophomore who was killed. "He was just trying to come to school today," he said of his son.

The victim's aunt, who identified herself as Alisa Brousard, said the killing "was random."

The sheriff said two students were taken to the hospital with minor injuries and the third was undergoing surgery.

KTRK-TV said one of the injured teens was stabbed in the abdomen and was in critical condition at Memorial Hermann Hospital. The TV station quoted a family member as saying the boy was fighting for his life.

At midmorning, the school sent out an e-mail and recorded message to parents: "This is an important message from Spring High School. Based on a preliminary report, a fight occurred this morning in the cafeteria. There has been one fatality and three students have been transported to hospitals with injuries. All other students are safe in their classrooms and will remain there while the investigation continues. Students will be released as soon as we have been given permission from the investigating authorities. We will call you again as soon as we have more details."

"When street violence pours into the schools, it compromises the well-being of all our students," said Ralph Draper, Spring ISD superintendent, at a news conference outside the school.

"It is our aim to re-establish a safe and secure place" for students on campus. He said police arrived on campus within 60 seconds of being summoned.