National Anarchism & the Far Right

[seemslikeadream]

OBSESSIVE FRONT PAGE SPAMMING OF THIS BOARD
William Dudley Pelley, International Fascism & Sirius

National Anarchism & the Far Right

A New Europe: Anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, Nation-State

Towards Rigorous & Radical Conspiracy Theory

this one is not AD's but it could have been used to combine other threads into one OP....like EVERYONE else does here..like topics in SAME thread

Fascism: What exactly is it and how do you recognize it?

[American Dream]

Jackell, that is so weak, it's really pathetic. PW was criticizing you for your relentless trolling of my thread, which I had asked you to cease many, many times. As you recall, your trolling followed my confronting your problematic and extremely evasive behavior.

In this case, I myself have asked many times for you to weigh in on National Anarchism, Third Positionism and the like. My best guess given the previous comments I have read is that you (and ZBG) are preparing to back pedal furiously on your admittedly difficult to pin down positions but may as well get this over with and hear at least one clear statement from you. So go ahead if you're ready.

[seemslikeadream]

what other topic on the front page of this board has 5 OP's on the same subject?


Answer


NONE

[Project Willow]

Someone needs to have patience. When I get word back from PW then I will engage, a mod has to be straight up, but I can't be subject to another poster's capriciousness.

Oh, FFS, he's directly asked you a question.

What an unnecessary....

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Everybody involved has been warned numerous times, everybody continues their same old behaviors, and everybody wants the mods to intervene in the inevitable flame war. The mods are not a substitute for your self control. It's your board, change your behavior or enjoy your bonfire.

[jakell]

Someone needs to have patience. When I get word back from PW then I will engage, a mod has to be straight up, but I can't be subject to another poster's capriciousness.

Oh, FFS, he's directly asked you a question.

What an unnecessary....

==========================

Everybody involved has been warned numerous times, everybody continues their same old behaviors, and everybody wants the mods to intervene in the inevitable flame war. The mods are not a substitute for your self control. It's your board, change your behavior or enjoy your bonfire.

As you asked, I've not been engaging, and this has been difficult.

Just let me know it's ok, and I will not seek your involvement.

[Searcher08]

That a certain section of Die groupthink have an obsession with masturbation is very telling

Wanker:
(Australian) fuckwit
(UK) tosspot, tosser, bawbag, knobber, knobhead
(US) jerk, jerkoff

I think your framing the audio-visual responses in this thread as 'very telling' indicates a worrying focus on onanist self-identification rather than the above.


@Jakell
You are not prevented from discussing mine though.

Ah - thank you - To Be Continued!

@AD
There was a post that PW directly addressed to jakell that was later deleted.
He *was* warned in no uncertain terms not to continue.

I need to put clearly that AD, your constant characterising of the responses you were getting as trolling when they were often very specific, detailed and on point to the thread - eg such as specific practical strategies for dealing with fascism from a European online context - is over egging the pudding. Frankly, at times I felt he was behaving towards you better than you toward slim, slad or myself historically - there was some 'what goes around, comes around' vibe from me, which is better to (uncomfortably) air than fester unsaid.

@SLAD
The William Pelley thread is not spamming - it is actually one of the most fucking bizarre, entertaining, woo-filled Fortean truly R.I. posts in a while. The thread should be actually be called something like "Did American Nazi-wannabees meet Space People while channeling?" - the title is the only thing bad about the post and doesn't indicate the fascination within.
I dont see the idea of a collaborative project of some sort being spam and though it has surfaced a great deal of differences - who knows something constructive might happen from it; I do not think this thread needed to be split from the other one though.

[Zombie Glenn Beck]

Jackell, that is so weak, it's really pathetic. PW was criticizing you for your relentless trolling of my thread, which I had asked you to cease many, many times. As you recall, your trolling followed my confronting your problematic and extremely evasive behavior.

In this case, I myself have asked many times for you to weigh in on National Anarchism, Third Positionism and the like. My best guess given the previous comments I have read is that you (and ZBG) are preparing to back pedal furiously on your admittedly difficult to pin down positions but may as well get this over with and hear at least one clear statement from you. So go ahead if you're ready.

What position am I back pedaling from? And again, I ask you a question, you dont give me an answer. I ask you again, you tell you me to come to this thread for the answer. I ask you in this thread and you refuse to answer again. Ive played your little game, Ive jumped through all your hoops, Ive answered all the questions in your little mini-inquisition. Ive done everthing you ask, and you still refuse to hold up your end of the bargain. You continue to throw baseless accusations against me. And what is difficult to pin down about my position? I already spelled it out clear as day. Do I have to write out a manifesto? Do you want me to take one of those libertarian diamond graph tests? Do you need to know my blood type personality? How many eons until the stars align in just the right way for you to give me a straight fucking answer?

I dont like psychoanalyzing people but this is just cartoonish. You spam threads that no one talks in for YEARS and its other people who are obsessive. You make elaborate lists of demands that we all have to adhere to for the great privilege of simply speaking to you, and yet its us who are refuse to make clear statements. You throw out completely baseless accusations of other board members being part of some fascist conspiracy, but its the people who you accuse who are somehow "trolling". I have never seen a human being with such a capacity for projection.

[seemslikeadream]

That a certain section of Die groupthink have an obsession with masturbation is very telling

Wanker:
(Australian) fuckwit
(UK) tosspot, tosser, bawbag, knobber, knobhead
(US) jerk, jerkoff

I think your framing the audio-visual responses in this thread as 'very telling' indicates a worrying focus on onanist self-identification rather than the above.


@Jakell
You are not prevented from discussing mine though.

Ah - thank you - To Be Continued!

@AD
There was a post that PW directly addressed to jakell that was later deleted.
He *was* warned in no uncertain terms not to continue.

I need to put clearly that AD, your constant characterising of the responses you were getting as trolling when they were often very specific, detailed and on point to the thread - eg such as specific practical strategies for dealing with fascism from a European online context - is over egging the pudding. Frankly, at times I felt he was behaving towards you better than you toward slim, slad or myself historically - there was some 'what goes around, comes around' vibe from me, which is better to (uncomfortably) air than fester unsaid.

@SLAD
The William Pelley thread is not spamming - it is actually one of the most fucking bizarre, entertaining, woo-filled Fortean truly R.I. posts in a while. The thread should be actually be called something like "Did American Nazi-wannabees meet Space People while channeling?" - the title is the only thing bad about the post and doesn't indicate the fascination within.
I dont see the idea of a collaborative project of some sort being spam and though it has surfaced a great deal of differences - who knows something constructive might happen from it; I do not think this thread needed to be split from the other one though.

oh ok I hadn't even looked at it so many fascists so little time

then we're down to four spams

[Rory]

That a certain section of Die groupthink have an obsession with masturbation is very telling

Wanker:
(Australian) fuckwit
(UK) tosspot, tosser, bawbag, knobber, knobhead
(US) jerk, jerkoff

I think your framing the audio-visual responses in this thread as 'very telling' indicates a worrying focus on onanist self-identification rather than the above.


@Jakell
You are not prevented from discussing mine though.

Ah - thank you - To Be Continued!

@AD
There was a post that PW directly addressed to jakell that was later deleted.
He *was* warned in no uncertain terms not to continue.

I need to put clearly that AD, your constant characterising of the responses you were getting as trolling when they were often very specific, detailed and on point to the thread - eg such as specific practical strategies for dealing with fascism from a European online context - is over egging the pudding. Frankly, at times I felt he was behaving towards you better than you toward slim, slad or myself historically - there was some 'what goes around, comes around' vibe from me, which is better to (uncomfortably) air than fester unsaid.

@SLAD
The William Pelley thread is not spamming - it is actually one of the most fucking bizarre, entertaining, woo-filled Fortean truly R.I. posts in a while. The thread should be actually be called something like "Did American Nazi-wannabees meet Space People while channeling?" - the title is the only thing bad about the post and doesn't indicate the fascination within.
I dont see the idea of a collaborative project of some sort being spam and though it has surfaced a great deal of differences - who knows something constructive might happen from it; I do not think this thread needed to be split from the other one though.

I'm not a wanker, but you are - NEH, NEH NE NEH, NEH!

Wow, Searcher. That's deep
Back to trolling AD and engaging in groupthink bully tactics for you and the anti AD gang.

*popcorn*

[Zombie Glenn Beck]

That a certain section of Die groupthink have an obsession with masturbation is very telling

@SLAD
The William Pelley thread is not spamming - it is actually one of the most fucking bizarre, entertaining, woo-filled Fortean truly R.I. posts in a while. The thread should be actually be called something like "Did American Nazi-wannabees meet Space People while channeling?" - the title is the only thing bad about the post and doesn't indicate the fascination within.
I dont see the idea of a collaborative project of some sort being spam and though it has surfaced a great deal of differences - who knows something constructive might happen from it; I do not think this thread needed to be split from the other one though.

The fact that those topics, even though they were related to and would have fit right in with his spam threads were posted elsewhere is really telling. AD is pretty anal about things being in the right thread so my guess is that AD knew that those threads were actually interesting and didnt want them to drown in the white noise. Which means that even AD knows that the spam threads are spam.

[Zombie Glenn Beck]

That a certain section of Die groupthink have an obsession with masturbation is very telling

Wanker:
(Australian) fuckwit
(UK) tosspot, tosser, bawbag, knobber, knobhead
(US) jerk, jerkoff

I think your framing the audio-visual responses in this thread as 'very telling' indicates a worrying focus on onanist self-identification rather than the above.


@Jakell
You are not prevented from discussing mine though.

Ah - thank you - To Be Continued!

@AD
There was a post that PW directly addressed to jakell that was later deleted.
He *was* warned in no uncertain terms not to continue.

I need to put clearly that AD, your constant characterising of the responses you were getting as trolling when they were often very specific, detailed and on point to the thread - eg such as specific practical strategies for dealing with fascism from a European online context - is over egging the pudding. Frankly, at times I felt he was behaving towards you better than you toward slim, slad or myself historically - there was some 'what goes around, comes around' vibe from me, which is better to (uncomfortably) air than fester unsaid.

@SLAD
The William Pelley thread is not spamming - it is actually one of the most fucking bizarre, entertaining, woo-filled Fortean truly R.I. posts in a while. The thread should be actually be called something like "Did American Nazi-wannabees meet Space People while channeling?" - the title is the only thing bad about the post and doesn't indicate the fascination within.
I dont see the idea of a collaborative project of some sort being spam and though it has surfaced a great deal of differences - who knows something constructive might happen from it; I do not think this thread needed to be split from the other one though.

I'm not a wanker, but you are - NEH, NEH NE NEH, NEH!

Wow, Searcher. That's deep
Back to trolling AD and engaging in groupthink bully tactics for you and the anti AD gang.

*popcorn*

So AD can call me a fucking Nazi but if I get upset about that its bullying? Well, in the future I will respond to accusations of being a Fascist in a much kinder and gentler way.

[jakell]

@Jakell
You are not prevented from discussing mine though.

Ah - thank you - To Be Continued!

@AD
There was a post that PW directly addressed to jakell that was later deleted.
He *was* warned in no uncertain terms not to continue.

It's still there, and I've reproduced it (reluctantly) on the previous page.

Others may behave capriciously, but I believe that I should at least be consistent and have standards. I am still awaiting a reversal, and then this business should be put to rest fairly soon.

[seemslikeadream]

it is now acceptable to tell someone to kill themselves....make a joke of telling someone to commit suicide ....call someone a fucking anti-semite ...a fucking Nazi...spam this board but beware of that cap lock

[American Dream]

@AD
There was a post that PW directly addressed to jakell that was later deleted.
He *was* warned in no uncertain terms not to continue.

I need to put clearly that AD, your constant characterising of the responses you were getting as trolling when they were often very specific, detailed and on point to the thread - eg such as specific practical strategies for dealing with fascism from a European online context - is over egging the pudding. Frankly, at times I felt he was behaving towards you better than you toward slim, slad or myself historically - there was some 'what goes around, comes around' vibe from me, which is better to (uncomfortably) air than fester unsaid.

You are interpreting my words through a distorted lens. I wasn't referring to jakell's (still foundationally vague) exposition of his years on the British fascist board as trolling, much as I found them to still be part of his difficult/impossible to pin down persona. I was referring to his other posts, which were fundamentally negative but in an even more impossible to pin down way, e.g. focused on really peripheral aspects but relentlessly negative.


@ZBG You also have been difficult to pin down ideologically since you came here and my sense of backpedaling is related to your now rejecting all forms of Anarchism, whereas previously you defended jakell's advocacy of Keith Preston's "Anarchism". So I chose my words carefully as I haven't seen you commit yourself to a clear ideological position. Call it a "rigorous intuition".

[seemslikeadream]

none of us are obliged to succumb to your obsessiveness..this is not your board...it is NOT YOUR BOARD....you don't get to tell people what to do and demand answers from them